PtR Quick Cap: Spurs Prevail Over Pistons, 112-92
by Lauri on Jan 6, 2010 10:27 PM CST
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PrintI've never done a QuickCap before. So here's what you get: you get my notes from the game. Lucky, lucky you.
Tony Parker shoots the ball using only the intensity of his gaze.
First quarter: Good start with contributions from Bogans (quick 3-pointer to score the first points of the game), Parker, (distributing) and Blair (rebounds). Richard Jefferson is the primary offensive weapon and even gets the oop (with Parker providing the alley). Prince starts to catch fire, though, and sloppy ball-handling by the Spurs combined with physical play from Detroit keeps the game close through the first seven minutes. The Pistons take advantage of 4 turnovers as well as poor contesting by the Spurs to keep a slim lead for most of the final five minutes of the quarter, but Manu puts on his cape and scores a quick five points to put the Spurs back on top. Rip Hamilton hits a fall away buzzer-beater, though, and the quarter ends with the Pistons leading 28 to 27 and shooting 70.6%--yeesh.
Second quarter: HORRIBLE missed call sets the tone for the second quarter when Manu is inexplicably dinged for a foul on what is clearly an offensive charge by Ben Gordon. Somehow the Spurs manage to cling to the lead throughout the first half of the quarter despite getting into foul trouble (Hill picks up his third only two minutes in). Detroit ties the game on a Rip Hamilton jump shot. Bogans hit a stone-cold killer three, but woe, IUPUI then picked up foul number four. Manu TOUGH to the basket. Manu is the MVP of this quarter. That's what happens when the Sickness is charged and gets the bad foul call to start a quarter, motherfuckers. And Bogans and Jefferson are playing well together. We like. Oh ffs, the basset hound next door is baying again. And why is she outside? It's cold tonight, damn it! Spurs playing with consistency now, and Manu keeps the momentum going with a 3. Our defense is still a bit ragged, but we're playing smarter. Villanueva has the hot hand, but we're matching him bucket for bucket. We go to the half with the Spurs leading 59-52 and shooting 61.1% to the Pistons' 50%. Nice.
I'm going to go get a veggie burger from P. Terry now.
Third quarter: Hang on, I'm eating . . .
. . .
. . .
Oy, the turnovers. The fouls. Ooh, beautiful pass from Dice to Jefferson. Oh crap, 4th on Timmy. It's time for TinyBall! Well, no, this is SlightlyLessLarge Ball, with Dice and Blair still on the floor. And IUPUI hits the 3 with authoritah! The Spurs are up only 2, though, by quarter's end, 77-75. We're moving the wrong way.
Fourth quarter: Aaaand now we're tied on a Parker-esque drive to the basket by Ben Gordon. But RJ hits the 3! He still leads Spurs scoring with 17. Spurs fighting harder now, showing better defense and hustling for the rebounds. MACEDOG! All the way to the rim past Tayshaun Prince! We're up by 9 now, and the crowd is starting to get into it. And Mace gives them a reason to scream by promptly knocking down a 3! Damn, what''s our 3-point percentage? Holy shit, 58.3%. That's better than our field goal percentage (55) right now! Funny, I've always thought of the Pistons as the Bad Boys of Defense, but it's their defense that seems weak, at least in this game. Oh, hey, another 3 by Mace. He's the MVP of this quarter. TP puts the Spurs up by 12, and I can see the exasperation on the Pistons' faces. That more than anything spells the end of the game to me. Sure enough, TP makes the sweet steal and takes it all the way down. Followed by the beautiful Ginobili drive, and CV's three isn't falling now, and I think we've got this one. That's right, you heard me you hayseeds, I'm calling it with 5 minutes to go. Mojo be damned!
Update: Looks like that was the right call. The Spurs are first to 100 (Lawler's Law!) and -- wtf? The floor is coming up in pieces? The housie walks by just now and says laconically--"they'll get some gaff tape for that." And they do. This house is full of basketball geniuses, I tell you what.
Six players in double digits. Good game, folks. See you next time.
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FIRST! :)
"There are two things in life that should never go together.....those two things are cheese and herpes..." - Santa Claus
by Cello the great on Jan 6, 2010 10:07 PM CST reply actions
You’re so clever, Lauri. Stupid me, thinking I could get the trade thread up before the quick cap.
The Spurs - now playing like sh*t again!
I always wanted to buy a puppy—a basset hound or a beagle. So when my friend (A) told me his friend (B) was giving him a beagle, but didnt want it, I quickly volunteered to adopt the cutie. Friend A told me it was around two months old. Apparently, Friend A has never seen the puppy yet.
Or puppies as it turns out. In fact, they’re two female beagles, one of whom is a pregnant “puppy.” I think the bitches (they really are!) are almost two years old. So thanks to Friend A not understanding Friend B, I’m now stuck with two female beagles who are tall for their breed, one of whom is pregnant with god knows what other breed; both of which have no idea who I am; are huge enough to eat more than I do; and are probably too old to be given new names. FML. I’m buying a basset.
Oh and nice recap. Good win.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
Beagles are as loud if not louder than Basset Hounds.
This is the dog of my dreams:
"Under the tutelage....of Randy Tutelage"
German wirehairs are supposed to be great. Relatively smart, good disposition, but high energy, so they need a lot of exercise and mental stimulation.
But what of the dogo?
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
My girlfriend wants a Dogo to do protection work. I want a GWP because they look like gentleman from the 19th century and because dog shows haven’t ruined the breed yet. They’re excellent dogs, highly versatile, eager to please, very sturdy. The exercise thing does worry me. One solution is to run them on bikes, another one is to get a dog that has less drive from a hunter, since hunters can’t use those dogs anyway.
This is all way off in the future though.
Also, my respect for you went up 1000%, can’t believe you recognized the GWP.
"Under the tutelage....of Randy Tutelage"
Get an Akita. I am telling you. No work at all, except talk and err a leash always coz their prey drive is a bit on the high side usually.
But exercise – occasionally push them off the couch.
Brushing – twice a year, its usually a blizzard during those times btw. Rest of the time, they are the best pillow you can find.
Bathing – They clean themselves religiously almost to a fault. I have given a bath to my girl maybe twice, once a skunk incident and another something equally gross. Think it was lake full of duck shit or something.
Barking – what barking. They don’t make a sound unless there is a need to communicate something in which case, it really is a conversation with paw swipes at your shoulders emphasizing the point.
Cons : You have to do a lot of socializing with the puppy through at least first four years to make sure they are ok around other dogs and kids.
This seriously interests me. My wife is a huge fan of the yellow lab, and wants one as soon as we (if we) get a bigger place. But if they’re less demanding about constant exercise, then our current yard may be large enough.
How large is your Akita? Also, any anecdotes you can give would be appreciated. As has been mentioned before, I have 5 kids, so is there much required beyond constantly being around the lil tykes in order to socialize?
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5 in 10
Some may consider this unfair (and I’m sure LionZ will have more to say on this), but I wouldn’t keep an Akita around 5 kids. They were originally bred to hunt large game in Japan, they are still bred to be aggressive and territorial, and If they are not VERY well trained, there could be trouble. Scroll to page 4 in this Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Report for statistics. Even the AKC says the breed should be supervised around small children.
I think Akitas are wonderful, gorgeous dogs, and I wouldn’t hesitate to own one myself, but then again, I don’t have kids and I have experience with training.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
Lauri is right about the training part. As I mention in the mini thesis below, you have a lot of work to do.
About the typecasting of being unsafe around kids, that is not true :P. In their originial japanese incarnation, akita’s over there were primary guardians of the family kids too lol from all the stories. Plus, they were the favored breed of royalty for a while. Honestly the kids are not a problem, but everyone in the family being active in the training to some degree is with one person as the lead. I forgot to mention, these guys are almost cat like in some of their actions btw.
The kids part, how old is the smallest guy. You don’t have to worry until the Akita is around 3-4 years old which is when the mental maturity part kicks in all of a sudden. So if you are a little careful during that time to keep treats with you all the time and watch the puppy carefully to make sure that he is not getting annoyed/frightened by the sudden screaming of the youngest kid and if you see the puppy getting bothered, get his attention with the treats/toys and ease him through that phase, it will be all fine. And this is not a concern with all Akita’s btw. But it is something to pay attention to. I didn’t. I just assumed 3 years of growing up around kids, roughing around with my gf’s niece etc made my dog ok with kids. Well, it happened gf’s sis had a baby during that phase before the 4th year and all the baby noise absolutely annoyed my dog on the infrequent visits and now she only tolerates kids if they are at a distance unfortunately. And since its kids, I just don’t take a chance anymore. But in your case, with 5 kids, I don’t see such a thing happening since the dog will be used to it. Just make sure, the puppy is exposed to the friends of the kids if they drop in a lot.
Exercise : You don’t actually want to tire them out during the first two or even three years. Let them grow slowly. You really don’t want to go from puppy to grizzly sitting on your lap in a few months. The akita could be anywhere from 80lbs to 120lbs depending on how you feed him(females a bit less). Imo, unless his genes absolutely dictactes that he be a mini bear, try to keep them around the 100lbs, for healthy joints later on in life. They are a breed who have high tolerance to pain. So they won’t complain and you will never know they have hurt themselves.
Also they always have to be on a leash. Unless somebody in the family has put in that much time to have had 99% control with their voice. There really is no guarantee with akita’s due to their prey drive to bound off after the first wabbit they see. Its all about the tonality of your voice with them, coz you won’t win physically. Basically the deal is, there is a lot of work to be done. Imo, compared to owning a good stock lab, the work is at least 20 times more. For me, the rewards are worth it for the quality of the companionship I get. They are unique among dogs in how much these guys vocalize with you about things and how clean they are, and in my books too darn smart. You have to be smarter. Best part is, you lterally have a big cuddly bear and oh, they are very very gentle too.
Do not under any circumstance get this cold blooded killing machine:
"Under the tutelage....of Randy Tutelage"
Because FSM knows, if there’s one thing a single picture of a dogo sniffing a toddler proves, it’s that no dogo will ever chomp a child anywhere at any time.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
And oh, I am 99% getting an Alsation(GSD) this May hehe :P
I want to do some kinda sport with off leash control. Like tracking or something which hopefully the little guy will have talent and drive for. Can’t do it with the Akita coz she is already too spoilt and would probably give me a withering look if I tried to make work look like fun. Too clever really.
I have a friend in Charlottesville, VA who breeds and trains GSDs for Schutzhund.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
Sweet. Schutzhund is a bit beyond me. My old trainer is a serious addict when it comes to that. In my opinion, the original philosophy was probably good, but now its too structuralized with the way the dogs are trained to react. Especially the protection part etc. Having said that, 240 pounds of me was still easily taken down by a 90 pound dog, so uh, I respect the training.
I just want a fun sport without too much stress on the dog. Like search rescue(which is still serious work) or rather like tracking which is pretty pleasant to me personally.
But hey, if I need help with training, I will mail you for a friendly reference if yer up for it :P
they look like gentleman from the 19th century
I love this. They so utterly do.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
How about Bagle Hounds then?
I want small to medium sized dogs with short hair, rather sedentary.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Jan 6, 2010 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
Get a dog from a shelter that’s low activity?Or a Greyhound. I know that sounds weird, but Greyhounds are couch potatoes, even though they cam be extremely fast runners.
Beagles were/are used for hunting, they need exercise and something to do, if they get bored they will either start barking and being loud, or they will start chewing stuff around your house.
They’re also notorious for getting in trouble by following a scent. I like them though. The Beagles you have, are they fat?
"Under the tutelage....of Randy Tutelage"
one’s pregnant, so she’s fat. the other one’s rather skinny.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Jan 6, 2010 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
they could possibly be abused pets
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Jan 6, 2010 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
Lovely, lovely recap, Lauri. You should do more of these :)
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 7, 2010 1:09 AM CST reply actions
Great 4th Qtr by the Men In Black.
The Positives:
We decided to go back to our starting lineup that was winning games. I guess the constant media pressure worked. ;)
Manu and TP, they started taking the ball to the hoop and took this game over. Blair was solid. I really like this kid, I love watching him play. He is getting better and better. And Mase is the new Horry.
Negatives:
Defensive rebounding. We absolutely suck on the glass.
If we don’t get our defensive rebounding under control before next Tuesday, we will not beat the Lakers. The Lakers don’t have an offense. Their offense is Kobe hoisting up shots and the other Lakers crashing the glass. So we better get this rebounding thing under control.
Also why didn’t anyone correct the defense on Rip. Bogans and the others were playing him all wrong. He hit a ton of face up jumpers, and that is his shot. You have to make Rip put the ball on the ground, his comfort zone is shooting that jumper. He is not a very good passer but he has a solid jumper.
Oh and we looked like we didn’t want to run a double at him. I not for doubling every play. But you have to do it every once in a while, especially when you have a team that can’t shoot like the Pistons.
Rip should not be scoring 29pts on us. We just didn’t pay attention to details with Rip.
But all in all we did what a good team does in the 4th and put them away. It was nice to see Haislip and Hairston get some PT. But someone needs to tell Haislip its ok if he grabs a rebound or two.
Can someone please tell me if Ghos and Clinton Cigars are related?
BTW, I agree with most of what you’ve said. Horry was much more of a defensive presence than Mason is, but Mason is also a greater offensive weapon as he’s not just a spot up shooter anymore.
The Lakers would be so much more of a threat if they gave Pau more touches and played more through him I feel, but Bynum’s a nice guy to have for when Pau goes down. Yes, they play too much through Kobe, but the team that has no offense and plays through only one player is the Cavs, and even they are getting better lately. I thought the defense on Rip got much better as the game went on. It could still be better though. I thought we doubled a couple of times, and were quick to rotate when the pass was made, but again, this was seen more late in the game.
I would also like to see Haislip get more boards. He seems to be much more perimeter oriented than I’d like him to be. As for Hairston, I’m glad that he was able to help the offense and display his good passing that we saw in the summer League and pre-season.
Overall, offense is improving everyday, but I hate counting on it. We’re just not showing defensive intensity for 48 minutes. I don’t know what to think of it, so I’ll sleep on it until the ASG
When the tooth fairy's own tooth falls out, it is taken during the night by Princess Peanut.
Just a quick note to both of you about Hailsip: He has never been a good rebounder. Ever.
Obviously, we’re dealing with a very small sample size, but right now his rebound rate is almost as high as it was when he played in the Turkish league against terrible competition. There’s a theory going around(mainly in my own imagination) that the Spurs are grooming him as a replacement for Bonner, so rebounding isn’t something they’re going to expect a lot of from him anyway.
The Spurs - now playing like sh*t again!
The other theory (at least I read somewhere) is they are treating him like Stephen Jackson. Pretty much train him under Spurs eyes.
And yes, I agree on it as a Bonner replacement. They just don’t have the cash to retain Mason or Bonner unless they come very cheap. Hailslip will be cheap. Same with Hairston. Two guys who will probably be back because they’ll know the Spurs system fairly well and have some talent. This is pretty much the only way they’ll be able to give Manu a few deal coupled with bringing Splitter over or maybe chasing one other guy in free agency who fits a slight amount more. Or perhaps one of the guys (Mason/Bonner) will be back, but not both.
Mason’s more valuable in the sense that he can handle the ball as a 3rd string point guard mix with Hill/Manu handling as well.
That and, Finley likely is even more likely to be retired. A lot will depend on playoffs, if Mason can perform though because he fell apart last post season. And Bonner still has yet to show up.
So yeah, Spurs have to make decisions on guys quick in the smaller window of Duncan’s years.
Bowen would have killed Rip. Maybe figuatively too.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
figuratively
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
On the current Pistons team, Rip is not really going to pass. Outside of him, there’s no really good options. You can pass to Ben Gordon, but you’ll never see the ball back.
Rip had it going though so he was likely going to take every decent look of a shot he had against whoever was guarding him (Bogans, Mason the majority of the time).
As for rebounding, a lot of that comes down to small ball (one big + lots of guards since Spurs don’t really have small forwards outside of RJ who plays the 4 in small ball).
Imagine how bad we would’ve been on the boards if Bonner had played…
Bone breaking? -340
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You’re one crazy lady. Can’t wait to meet you. Well done. :)
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Great re-cap Lauri! Thanks – and about that basset hound – i had to deal with a someone who could not control their own dog and annoyed the hell out of the people that lived around this person – i picked up a hand held device known as the “Dazer” (maybe 2 z’s) from Amazon and it actually works on the dog. Unfortunately you have daze the dog when it barks – they have automatic ones for a little more $$$ and it might be worth it on these cold nights in Tejas! Hope this helps
"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
It’s tempting, but I don’t blame the poor dog . . . I blame the wretched owners. I want a device that I could use on them. . . .
>:)
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
I just went and spoke to the husband face to face. I was very polite, wished him a happy new year, said I would like to talk about his dog, told him (AGAIN) that she barked constantly, and his response was, “I don’t know what you expect me to do about it.”
He acted like I was being unreasonable and irrational.
I really, REALLY don’t want to get into filing a nuisance report, bad blood, etc. etc. For one thing, I don’t want this dick to poison my cats, and now I wouldn’t put it past him.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
There are some great pictures from the game.
Hover Blair
nom nom nom
I’ve said all I could say to make fun of the frenchie… so lets go to some pictures.
Classic French drama
-sniff sniff-
My hands, ze no work as good zo I catch with ze face.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jan 7, 2010 9:32 AM CST reply actions
wtf?
There is big chunk of text missing that was supposed to be above “I’ve said all I could say to make fun of the frenchie… so lets go to some pictures.” I guess I pasted over it…
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jan 7, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
Nice pics! Tony flails around a lot and expects a lot. Man, I am already petrified how Fisher is gonna abuse him with strips and taking charges.
Nice recap. It reminded me of a Simmons’ game diary.
I had a bunch of Detroit fans sitting right in front of me. They were talking trash the entire game. So I sat and waited for the inevitable, patiently. When the Spurs made their final push and it was clear the game was over, I waited for a quiet moment and screamed, ‘DEE TROIT BAS KET BALL.’ They all turned around and I said, ‘Yeah, I know. It’s really fucking annoying, isnt it?’
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
by Fred Silva on Jan 7, 2010 5:49 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Damn, Fred. Good thing you’re on our side.
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 7, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
Let the world read your anecdote in full color. At least green and black.
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
I think I heard you (section 224)… I know I heard that late in the game.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jan 8, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
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