Game Preview #36: San Antonio Spurs Vs Los Angeles Lakers
by Tim C. on Jan 12, 2010 1:15 AM CST
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PrintIt's that time of the season again, and some say it's pretty late for this to be the first game between these two teams all season. But I dread this game. The Spurs haven't exactly wowed against the good teams, and the best team in the league just rolled into town.
Preview completed by a tag team of Latin D and Tim C.
 Los Angeles Lakers @ San Antonio Spurs Where: AT&T Center - San Antonio, TX When: January 12, 2010; 7:30 PM Spurs time Watch: My35(San Antonio); KCAL(Los Angeles)
How They Stack Up
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 Tony Parker "Unbelievable." |
Point Guard This is by far our most favorable match-up. Derek Fisher is a shadow of his former self this season, and has failed to impress me in every single Lakers game I've watched. That's not to say that he can't be dangerous: we still need to put a man on him when he's standing beyond the 3-point arc, and he's pretty much automatic from the FT line. However, if the Spurs want to win tonight, Tony needs to dominate Fisher. Advantage: Spurs |
 Derek Fisher 0.4 |
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 Manu Ginobili "FANGIO!" |
Shooting Guard I'm the biggest Manu fan you're likely to find outside of the Ginobili home. That said, Kobe's simply the best SG in the game right now, and one of the best players of all time. Kobe comes from a decidedly mortal game against Milwaukee, where he shot only 4-21, so he will probably want to wash the bad taste off his mouth. He hasn't been particularly efficient this season from deep, so whoever is assigned as our would-be Kobe-stopper needs to try to stop his penetration and hope his fadeaways are not falling. Despite all that, Manu's playing some great basketball lately, scoring, being pesky on defense and creating offense with the usual Manu flair. His dunks prove he's feeling healthy, too. If there's a SG in the league outside Miami that can match Kobe on a good night, that's Manu. Let's hope for the best. NOTE: Kobe is listed as "day to day". I fully expect him to play, because he's tougher-than-though (right?), but in case he actually sits this one out, prepare yourselves for a devastating loss against a suddenly unrecognizable Lakers team that lacks its two best players. Advantage: Lakers |
 Kobe Bryant NBA's best SG |
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 Richard Jefferson "Let's be friends." |
Small Forward As always, the old adage has proven true: "More talent is better than less talent." People can expound on chemistry and craziness all they want, but having someone as talented as Artest in your team is always a good thing. To his usual rabid defense, Artest has added a reliable outside shot. In fact, he's currently the Lakers' best three point shooter. And that's just scary. If RJ can use his strength and athleticism to penetrate and get some fouls from Artest early on, I'll be happy. Advantage: Lakers |
 Ron Artest Less crazy than usual |
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 Tim Duncan "..." |
Power Forward It's fortunate that Pau Gasol is (probably) not playing today, because the Spurs would be in really deep sh*t if he was. However, Odom isn't exactly a bad option. He even does a couple of thing better than Timmy, and one of them is even one of Timmy's strengths: finding the open man. You're looking at the only big man in the league who is a better distributor than Duncan, so that's something to keep an eye on. The other thing he does better than Duncan is shooting from outside. In every other way, Timmy is better. Expect Odom to start the game guarding Blair, and vice versa. It'll be interesting to see how both teams try to exploit that matchup. Advantage: Spurs |
 Lamar Odom Isn't Pau Gasol |
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 DeJuan Blair "Lol!!!1!" |
Center Bynum is really a strange case - he seems(like the Spurs' own Ian Mahinmi) to not play full-tilt all the time, but when he's at his best it's overwhelming. But when he's not getting enough touches, he seems to lose interest. One thing that is mystifying about him is his rebounding: he spends nearly all of his time near the rim, but still averages less rebounds than Gasol, and even Odom. With his size, strength and speed, he should be able to dominate the boards, but he (again) seems to not have much interest in doing so. As scary as this is, he's definitely not playing to his potential thus far. Let's just hope he doesn't find a reason to be engaged tonight. Advantage: Lakers |
 Andrew Bynum Still an Enigma |
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 George Hill. "Ian is the future." |
Bench & Role Players The Lakers' bench usually has one major advantage: Odom. If he's starting tonight, the bench will be considerably weaker. Brown is a guy that reminds me a lot of George Hill, but he's taller and will play any position from 1-3. Versatility is a big key to the Lakers' success, and Brown probably embodies that trait more than anyone else on their roster. Beyond Brown and Jordan Farmar, there's not much there for the Lakers. And by now, we're all familiar with the firepower that the Spurs' bench possesses. It's time to show what the best bench in the league is capable of. Advantage: Spurs |
 Shannon Brown Multi-position threat |
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 Gregg Popovich 4 rings |
CoachSorry, guys. This is the one opponent all year that gets the white box over Pop. I hate his guts, but I respect the hell out of him. Advantage: Lakers |
 Phil Jackson 10 rings* |
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Other Factors
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Intangibles |
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This is the first game in a dreaded FOGAFINI. Expect some crazy lineups as Pop tries to limit everybody's minutes. Advantage: Lakers |
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Mojo |
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The Lakers are involved with Dracula. 'Nuff said. Advantage: Spurs |
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Keys To The Game
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Strength of ScheduleBoth teams have had a day off, and have a tough SEGABABA tomorrow night. The Spurs will be in Oklahoma City facing a team that has their number, and the Lakers are headed to Dallas to face a team that's probably still angry over their last meeting. Last Time They MetThis is our first game against the Lakers this year, but last season, the Spurs suffered a 102-95 loss at home on March 12th. |
Some Other ReadingLakersSilver Screen and Roll - The SBNation blog for the Lakers. Good writing, good people - yeah, I know, I'm shocked too. Spurs48 Minutes of Hell: The best TrueHoop team blog is now even better, after adding two new writers. Congrats to Jesse and Andrew, who are already doing good work. Twitter Musings
Opposing ViewpointThis isn't a regular feature, but since we have a PtR regular who also happens to be a Spurs Lakers fan, I thought it would be nice to get some input from him. So, olf had this to say:
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Where to Tune In
TVThis game will be aired on My35 in SA, and KCAL in the Los Angeles area. For some odd reason, the national networks didn't deem a battle between two of the top Western Conference teams important enough to broadcast. If you have cable or satellite, you'll have to look up your individual channel. And of course, there's always League Pass for the haves. For the have nots, read on. OnlineAs always, NBA League Pass is recommended for those who are willing to pony up the cash. Most Spurs games will be broadcast there, which is especially helpful for those of us who aren't in the San Antonio area. Please don't post links to illegal game feeds in the game thread. Links to illegal feeds are not permitted on SBNation, but you can probably find them out there on the internets if you're resourceful and desperate. In fact, nobody can stop you from googling "atdhe". You can also shoot an email to dmenendez@gmail.com for more assistance. NBA League Pass audio is still free this year, so check it out. RadioIf you're in the San Antonio area and aren't near a TV, tune in to WOAI (1200 AM). |
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Bynum usually gets up for games against Timmy D
If they’re on each other, I’ll be looking forward to that match-up
No way in hell Kobe sits this one out
He would back hand Phil at the mere suggestion of it.
Also Ron-ron is hurting too, he has plantar fasciitis and is still feeling the effects of that concussion given that he played very limited minutes after bumping his head in the bucks game.
Luke Walton will probably be out as well given that he is recovering from a pinched nerve in his back.
I’m interested in seeing Dejuan Blair given that he is missing a ligament in his legs and how much praise has been heaped upon him.
Hmm, multiple injuries on the opposite team, a prime opportunity for a win, a very important game. Oh no, we’re gonna get our asses kicked.
"Under the tutelage....of Randy Tutelage"
I know. This one is going to hurt.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
I know you guys are trying that “double-reverse mojo” thing. But it is not going to work. Even Vegas has the Lakers as underdogs and they always overstate their chances (since Vegas is practically a suburb of L A).
The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."
But but you are basically saying it will work. Ah Olf you confused Spurs fan :P
“double-reverse mojo” —> Spurs win
Vegas has Lakers as underdogs and you say thats an overstatement —> Spurs win
So in the end, it works.
Hmm, good point. I don’t expect the Lakers to win. I just wanted them to know I knew what they were up to.
The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."
Just so you know that we know you know.
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
Oh no, I know. And I also know that you know I know.
The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."
If you were any other Laker fan I’d say you don’t know shit. Oh what the hell, I did it anyway.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I will hate hearing the number of Lakers fans in AT&T “out cheer” the home crowd. Don’t make a face; I’ve heard it happen a number of times and it makes me sick. Arena Spurs fans, please don’t let this happen again tonight. Really.
Even though the game’s not on the tube, I’ll have little difficulty finding a way to watch it; one of the benefits of playing against a popular, defending champion Lakers team.
"...and programmed to save the day!"
I second your plea to arena fans tonight. I’ve heard MVP chants for Kobe overtake the AT&T at both Lakers games I’ve been to over the last couple of years.
The fan strength at the AT&T center seem to be getting worse every year.
On Friday, my whole section was full with Mavs fans. The section to my left was easily a 3-1 Mavs fans to Spurs fans ration.Inexcusable.
I’m also sick of looking down and seeing people in the first 15-20 rows not wearing Spurs colors… it pisses me off to see a group of jackasses wearing designer clothes and only standing up when its time to leave (5 minutes left in the game).
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jan 12, 2010 8:02 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ugh..
“ratio.”
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jan 12, 2010 8:02 AM CST up reply actions
I blame David Stern for all of this.
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 12, 2010 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
What the hell is going on down there? I remember being a kid growing up in SA and it was all about the Spurs….and now a bunch of damn traitors are cheering on the enemy!?!? unbeliveable
"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Joe deLarios on Jan 12, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
What happened is we allowed too many damn tourists to visit. They decide they like what they see and they move to SA.
Currently San Antonio ranks as the 7th largest city in the nation. I’m doing what I can to make us number 10.
Everyone… join me!
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I didn’t know that SA was that large. Why is it always referred to as a small market team? Or maybe “small market” is a term applied to every team not in LA, Chicago, Dallas, or the East Coast megalopolis. Can someone please explain this to me?
Silly things do cease to be silly if they are done by sensible people in an impudent way. - Jane Austen
And it seems lots of those people are from California, for some reason.
Hilariously maladjusted. But for all the right reasons.
Great preview, to everyone who was involved. And thanks, olf for adding that extra flavor to the preview. We love ya but not your team :)
My goodness… how can the national teevee networks NOT broadcast this game?
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 12, 2010 7:54 AM CST reply actions
Fine…
I’m positive we’ll lose.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jan 12, 2010 8:03 AM CST up reply actions
We were voted the NBA TV fan night and will be national tonight with our local crew. I’m sure it’s blacked out in SA, but you should have KRRT then anyways.
Crap! I was hoping to keep our cronic over-0.5-team-inferiority-complex more local…
by spursfan_needs_counseling on Jan 12, 2010 8:42 AM CST up reply actions
I agree. We are going to win this one for sure. Tomorrow night, not so sure. I think the fear of a SEGABABA against OKC and the risk of dropping 2 in a row if we slack in either will light the fire we need tonight.
You have an uncanny ability to see the good and the potential in every situation.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on Jan 12, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
Living in OKC….I’m not sure which game I want to see the Spurs win more. It’s getting really embarrassing & aggravating having to explain all these losses to the Thunder. But then again, I absolutely LOATHE the Fakers.
Would it be too much to ask for a win against both?
If less is more, imagine how much more more would be.
I’m pretty sure Olf just referred to Pau Gasol, and the rest of the Lakers, as “succulent.” That’s a little creepy if you ask me.
“…they have enough succulent pieces to make some pretty tasty stew.”
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
Yeah, sorry I only had a few fleeting moments to jot down my thoughts and I had just read the Spurs Serve Up Yucky Stew post, so that popped into my head.
The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."
Oh yeah Fred
I am not a big “stats” guy like you but I saw something the other day that I thought you should see. Here’s a link to the NBA’s individual player +/- stats for 2009-10. There’s Duncan at a respectable 18th right in front of Garnet, Pierce, Bynum, etc. But then I looked up at number 9 and. . . could it be? D. Fisher of the Lakers? I mean WTF?
So I decided to look back at the 2008-09 regular season. Sorry no linky. (You’ll have to fiddle with the drop-downs at the top of the page yourself.) And there he was again! This time at #10 D. Fisher – Lakers. But the thing that really made me laugh was when I scanned the list to find the first Spur. There was your old buddy at #25 M. Bonner Spurs. Made me smile the rest of the afternoon.
(PS. No I don’t think player +/- stats are very meaningful – just funny in this case.)
The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."
beginning to wonder when the spurs will kick it into gear. what better place than here? what better time than now?
Nice preview.
I would add as a key to the game for the Spurs we need to battle on the defensive boards and when we get the ball run back at the Lakers.
The Lakers send everyone to rebound so we should be able to get some easy baskets in transition if we can take care of our defensive boards.
I thought you were going to say a Pop ejection after 2 minutes of play
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on Jan 12, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
Not sure about other Lakers fans
but as much faith as you can have for the Lakers if there is a game that the Spurs can easily win is this game. Too many injuries for the Lakers. Besides Kobe and T. Parker all the other match up are going to be interesting. I wonder if Phil puts S. Brown on Parker because Fish is going to get killed.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jan 12, 2010 10:30 AM CST reply actions
I’m pretty sure that to begin the game, Fisher will be guarding Bogans, while Kobe will have the task of guarding Parker. Fisher is their biggest weakness in terms of defense, and they’ll want to assign him the task of guarding our weakest offensive weapon, Bogans. Hopefully Bogans is up to the challenge and exploits Fisher’s lack of mobility speed.
I cannot agree enough with defensive rebounding though, that’s should be a priority.
When the tooth fairy's own tooth falls out, it is taken during the night by Princess Peanut.
i have crazy good tickets to tonight’s game. I’ll be four rows behind the lakers bench. The best thing about these seats is that you can hear them, and they can hear you. I’m looking for some good one-liners from y’all,
So far, I’m thinking:
“Hey Artest, if you do that again my beer has your name on it,”
“Kobe, how’s that girl in Eagle, Colorado doing?”
“Fisher, if only you were young, quick and athletic; you’d be a great point guard.”
“Hey Gasol, we’re all very impressed with that Euro-Trash look you have going on.”
“Hey Gasol, your face owes my eyes an apology.”
“Bynum, when do you plan on losing all that baby fat?”
“Bynum, WEIGHT ROOM!”
“Odom, why’d you pick the ugly one?”
“Phil, will they have a nursing home bed for you to lay on at games next year? That’s the next obvious step, right?”
Need more, let’s hear them….
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
“Hey Fisher, if you’re so old & broken down why do you have better +/- stats than Duncan who is having such a great season?” (see comment above)
“Hey Kobe, how does it feel to have made it to The Finals twice as much as the Spurs have in the last decade?”
“Hey Phil, how does it feel to have a bunch of drunk, annoying Spurs fans sitting behind you?”
The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."
“I feel you have enough reasons be drunk and annoying, specially after another loss” – Ouch!
by spursfan_needs_counseling on Jan 12, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
Everyone is too down on the Spurs. It’s a rough start, but it’s a brand new team. If you are searching for a glass half full view, here you go.
The Lakers have only played 13 games on the road this season. They are greatly untested away from LA, and sport a humbling 8-5 record. Not only that, but 4 of those wins took an overtime, or two, against the Thunder, Rockets, Bucks, and Kings. You’re looking at a team that could easily be 4-9 on the road. And the Lakers have lost their last three on the road to the Suns, the horrible Clippers, and an injured Blazers team. Do not count the Spurs out before the game even begins.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
Really, Olf? You are going with the +/- stat? It is seriously the most easily skewed stat in the game. Let’s say you are the wink link on a five man crew. You know, let’s say you are slow, old, and only hit threes if you are wide open. Let’s say you greatly try to get out of the other four’s way and not do anything stupid the entire time you are on the floor. Only the other four players are great so you are on the floor whenever your team makes a run. That would be one way your +/- stat might over-estimate your positive impact on the team. Just sayin’.
"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles
i don’t think your quick catch will be enough to keep this out of jrw’s secret lexicon, but maybe he won’t see….
Personally, I like the rhyming nature of “wink link”.
Silly things do cease to be silly if they are done by sensible people in an impudent way. - Jane Austen
I third the motion for wink link entering the lexicon.
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 12, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
Like I said above “I don’t think player +/- stats are very meaningful – just funny in this case” . . .to see both Fisher and Bonner ahead of any of those other Spurs you love so much.
In addition to his defensive issues, my big fear is that Fisher is turning into Robert Horry in his last year with the Spurs where he hit something like 8% of his shots. But at least Fish has as many rings and Duncan and has been to The Finals as much as Manu & Parker combined.
The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."
Alright, I knew this was gonna get nasty. Before this degrades any further let me just say:
You can’t handle the Lakers!!!
The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."
Once again, I just want to remind all the folks out there of one fact.
Olf did not come out of the Laker closet until the most recent Laker championship.
Live by your team and die by your team, Olf.
Come on you can do it… bring out the Silver and Black. You know you want to….
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
“Hey Kobe, tell me how my a** tastes.”
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 12, 2010 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
Wats poppin Spurs Nation! Lake Show fan here....
Just wanted to tell you guys how much I respect your organization and Coach cuz its amazing how they’ve been so good for over a decade. Pop is one of my favorite coaches of all time. I love his style and how he demands execution on both ends of the court all the time. Anyways, if I was a Spurs fan, I wouldnt be worried at all. The Lakers have been really dissapointing this year overall and havent played like a championship team for most of the year. Injuries have had something to do with the poor play no doubt, but even when we were all healthy like on the Christmas game, we got cleaned out on our home court. I’m not expecting much tonight from the Lake Show cuz they havent really shown me anything this year. Come on Bosh, the weather out here is warm. He he.
Unfortunately what you outlined above is sort of like the perfect setup for Spurs fandom letdown with a loss.
i guess, but I didnt mean it that way lol
by desecrator09 on Jan 12, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
Im surprised at how dissapointed Lakers fans are with their team. Last I checked they are leading the league in wins which is very important and they are not even healthy.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
I think we cranky Spurs fans would be more than happy with the Lakers current record.
Silly things do cease to be silly if they are done by sensible people in an impudent way. - Jane Austen
It’s called passive aggressively making excuses in case they get dominated tonight.
Both teams have lost games. Both teams have played home-heavy relatively weak schedules. The Lakers have had more injury woes. The Spurs have had more new pieces and more chemistry/execution issues. The Spurs are on controlled minutes while the Lakers key players, Kobe, play 40 productive mpg. The Spurs bench is deeper. The Lakers bench is supposedly weak.
But I say, fuck all of that shit! It is Lakers-Spurs….I want this win and I know every player who gets burn for either team will too…especially in a national game in a packed/crazy/loud/hyped/hostile arena.
Also, if the Lakers slip without Pau and lose tonight and then to Dallas, they could see themselves 1/2 a game behind Cleveland and tied for losses with Boston. It would be enough to put them back into the reach of the Western pack as well.
He neglected to mention our game against the you-stalkees tomorrow, too.
The Spurs - now playing like sh*t again!
that is the one game of the year that I’m giving the Spurs a pass on…I’m completely okay if they lose on the road in a segababa after beating the Lakers against a super young team that has a star clicking on an extra cylinder plus the ones he already had who leads a team I find incredibly easy to like. I tried not to right a run-on but that sentence mutant got out of hand.
But it will be impressive if we can break through and beat BOTH teams. Yum.
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 12, 2010 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
Kobe's recent shooting slump
has coincided with the removal of a splint on his fractured finger. I read that he’s going to return to the splint tonight.
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
Maybe one of you Laker fans can enlighten me on this, but why hasn’t Kobe gotten surgery on his finger? Is it the length of time he would be out? Can he do more damage to it?
Silly things do cease to be silly if they are done by sensible people in an impudent way. - Jane Austen
Because his ego is too big. I hate that guy. Great basketball player but he strikes me as a horrible human being.
you obviously dont know Kobe very well at all then
He’s a great guy off the court. Dont let that scowl when he’s on the court mislead you. He just wants to win more than anybody on the planet and that shows in his demeaner. And regarding the finger, it would take 4-6 weeks recovery if he wanted it to fully heal (no, he doesnt need surgery on it) which, by the time he’s only half way through the recovery time, we’d slip below the Thunder in the West standings.
by desecrator09 on Jan 12, 2010 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
He didn’t get surgery on it two summers ago because he would miss training camp. This summer he didn’t get surgery because he said it was "good enough to win a championship so why change it?" That was for the pinky.
Regarding the index finger, Kobe said that he would just adjust to it and let it heal on it’s own. He can’t do more damage to it, but every time he gets hit on the finger the healing process is set back.
I’m in Denver but want to watch this game. If anyone has any ideas email me at nelsonbl42000@gmail.com
That's what the general belief is
He didn’t get surgery on it two summers ago because he would miss training camp. This summer he didn’t get surgery because he said it was “good enough to win a championship so why change it?” That was for the pinky.
Regarding the index finger, Kobe said that he would just adjust to it and let it heal on it’s own. He can’t do more damage to it, but every time he gets hit on the finger the healing process is set back.
This has nothing to do with the game. Check out this video, called The Third and The Seventh. It’s full CGI, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen something so realistic made with CGI.
Queness says the short film sucks and the dialogue is lacking.
"Under the tutelage....of Randy Tutelage"
I have a good feeling about it too … !!!…. I read this website every day and never post. I just got the vibe today.
Just got back from work… Slept 2 hours… I’m about to pass out. And yet I can’t skip this game, can I?
Bone breaking? -340
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
Don’t. The game thread’s going to be so much fun :)
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 12, 2010 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
Game Thread up early, beaches. Talk smack to me, Laker fans.
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 12, 2010 6:36 PM CST reply actions
Whoops. Okay, here’s the REAL GAME THREAD. I suck.
by silverandblack_davis on Jan 12, 2010 6:42 PM CST up reply actions
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