Power Rankings (Sports Illustrated) and your Top 5 thoughts.
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Aug 27, 2009 8:52 AM CDT
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Power rankings by SI's Chris Mannix. We all know the five teams at the top of the list but I'm a little surprised with the order.
Who are your top five teams?
My thoughts on Mannix's top five
5. Magic. (EDITED) Any questions the sports world has about Dwight Howard should be answered this season. I'm not saying they will, I'm saying they should. Howard needs to prove that he is more than an athletic freak of nature. They let Turkey-Glue walk but traded for Carter. Carter is a better player but Hedo is a better team mate. Also, the Magic traded away valuable depth in Alston and C. Lee for Carter. They did create a solid starting lineup with the addition of Carter but who do they have on the bench? Past Bass and Gortat their fornt court is weak and they might as well hold walk-on tryouts for the back court. Magic fans need to pray their starters stay healthy. I expect this team to dive into mid-season salary dumps.
4. Celtics. A rich man's Spurs. This title-contender was bought instead of built but results are results. This is a great team that solidifed their bench (front court is scary) and will be playing with a chip on their shoulder. If you ignore the looming age and health issues (their "window" is smaller than the Spurs), the finals should easily be Celtics - Lakers/Spurs. Celtics/Spurs should tie for #2.
3. Lakers. Really? 3 spot? Regardless of what people think of the Artest signing (Yes, he can accept a #3 role in LA), I don't think you can knock the 08-09 champions off the top of the list. And I really don't like how they're behind Mannix's #2 team... a team with questionable depth, the current albatross of title hope's, and a super nova prima donna whose pros can't seem to outweight his cons.
2. Cavaliers. This team should be ranked fourth. The team made a flurry of offseason moves with Anthony Parker (easily the best move), Jamario Moon (athletic and versatile), and Leon Powe. However, the aquisiton of Snaq throws a wrench into the gameplan/play style/chemistry of this team. Also, who is going to come in to play while the Big Cuyahoga gets a breather and tweet time? Z? Powe? Watkins? This team is loaded with good/great players at the 1, 2, and 3 but lacks a compatible front court.
1. Yay, Spurs love.
I don't like it.
I prefer the usual "Yeah, they're great but..." from the media. There are also quite a few questions with this team. Health, chemistry, backcourt depth, matchups, etc., etc., etc... everything we've already talked about.
On paper? Phenomenal. On the court? Its going to take a bit before we (hopefully) see Holt's vision of Frankenstein's monster.
(Pesonal) Four things I prefer with the Spurs: Little bit behind at half time (they tend to cough up half time leads but come out on fire when behind), finish #1 in the division, #2 in the conference, and ignored by mainstream sports media.
So... I have it:
5. Magic
4. Cavaliers
2. Celtics/Spurs (I can't decide)
1. Lakers.
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1. Lakers
2. Spurs(I give our bench the edge, but this one is close with Boston)
3. Celtics
4. Magic
5. Cavaliers(I’m still not impressed by this lineup – remember what happened to the high-powered Suns after they got Shaq? Cleveland probably won’t be #1 on defense again this season with him in the middle, either.)
ACLs are like crutches. They’re only for the weaklings who can’t get along without them. -jollyrogerwilco
The high-powered Suns lost Marion, though.
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The high-powered Cavs lost Ben Wallace, though. =]
But it doesn’t matter, the Cavs are still the best team in the world!!!
(We are talking about our fantasy league, right?)
by theonlyromeo on Aug 27, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Losing Ben Wallace is addition by subtraction.
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They didn’t get any less high-powered on offense. In fact, their offensive efficiency increased. But, they lost what little ability they had to get stops.
ACLs are like crutches. They’re only for the weaklings who can’t get along without them. -jollyrogerwilco
We’ll see. Ilgauskas is underrated, but I think Shaq now is still a much better player.
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5. Spurs
4. Spurs
3. Spurs
2. Spurs
1. Fuck you, reality
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by LatinD on Aug 27, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Spurs.
I think they are now the deepest team in the league.
"He's one of the best power forwards of all time. I take my hands off to him."
- Scottie Pippen, talking about Tim Duncan on ESPN
my incredibly subjective:
1. Spurs
2. Celtics
3. Cavs
4. Magic
5. Lakers
I couldn’t write a series called “My team is better than yours” if I didn’t honestly believe we were the best team now.
Damn!
You spoiled the whole ending to the “My team is better than yours” series. I was wondering how it would turn out in the last few chapters. (I’ll still read it for the details though.) :)
No doubt those are all scary teams at 1-4. All much improved. And lets see. . . hmm. . . last year’s Lakers were only 11-4 against those powerhouses. Plus the Magic actually beat the Lakers once at Staples. The rest of ’em? Nope.
Good thing the Lakers are so lucky and all.
Haters beware: Kobe's drive for 5 starts now!-SLAM Magazine
i won’t ruin the lakers post for you, but they didn’t do enough this offseason and going 7 with a weakened houston team was pretty pathetic
Obviously, the Celtics were and aren’t as good without KG. Compare them to the team that beat the Lakers two years ago and it is pretty obvious that are better to me.
I’m impressed with who the Cavs have added besides Shaq. And one big thing about Shaq is that Ben Wallace was far worse. I’m not sure how he will gel with LeBron but he made it work Wade. The team is better and they were pretty good last year.
Orlando gets Jameer Nelson back. They keep Gortat and add Bass. They also add Matt Barnes and Ryan Anderson who are good role players who outplay their salaries. Oh yeah, and they add Vince Carter. I think all of that outweighs the losses.
The other teams did more. The Lakers might have not even signed Artest had Ariza just stayed for a fair contract. I’m not saying the Lakers will be bad or anything. All the other teams just passed them and the Lakers will be trading in February to catch-up. I think the phrase is “resting on your laurels” for the Lakers offseason.
by BlaseE on Aug 27, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I differ on Barnes and Anderson but then again I overlooked Gortat in the original post… good analysis.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Aug 27, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with you about the Cavs moves other than Shaq, but I think the negative impact of Shaq will be worse than you do.
ACLs are like crutches. They’re only for the weaklings who can’t get along without them. -jollyrogerwilco
Although...
The Cavs do prefer setup plays and killing Shaq with the pick n’ roll won’t be nearly as easy as it was when he was with Nash. He will be better with the Cavs then he was with the Suns.
Its just he becomes worthless away from the basket and Z can’t do much aside from jump shots now. Powe might be their best overall big man.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Aug 27, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
LeBron is a one man fast break so Shaq can just stay on defense. To me the move dropped dead weight and picked up some less muscular and more useful weight. I’m somewhat pessimistic about the Shaq move in general but they got him for almost nothing. If all they had done was the Shaq move, I would have them lower than the Lakers. With the other moves, it is a good offseason for them. I still think Mo Williams is a little overrated though.
Mo Williams is an arrogant d-bag who can’t defend shit.
by silverandblack_davis on Aug 29, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
And really, who would want to?
“Shit Defender” looks awful on a business card.
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by spursfan4ever on Aug 31, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the 5 teams listed are clearly the top 5, but the Blazers are definitely my favorite for the second pack of teams: Blazers, Mavs, Hornets, and Nuggets. One of these teams could overthrow a top 5 team and since they are all in the West and the Spurs are clearly the number 1 to me, that leaves……
Does anyone else see a major Denver flop in the near future though? I mean I’m giving them credit for what they did last season, but they seem primed for the 7th or 8th seed as we’re used to seeing.
They had the same record as the young Blazers and the injured Spurs last year.
It was the Nuggets franchise record for wins. Did they get better? Jones for Afflalo is a wash. Lawson is just a rookie backup. They lost Kleiza, and Billups is older. I say 50 wins for them.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Aug 27, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I see anyone in the top 6 as being capable of bringing home the title, but this was about top 5. Although, I am anxious to see the slightly different(they have a real live PG!) Blazers team on the floor before I put them higher.
ACLs are like crutches. They’re only for the weaklings who can’t get along without them. -jollyrogerwilco
I wasn't actually believing that my team was in the top 5
They are third in the West though.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Aug 27, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I’d also like to add that I’m picking on how good a team is in general. The Spurs team is built and coached for championships so I’m not expecting us to be the number 1 seed. I wouldn’t be surprised by it, but I don’t expect it. Come playoff time though, domination. I think Cleveland remembers what sweeping us in the ‘06-’07 regular season meant. Boston, Orlando, and the Cavs are going to have some sick win records next season.
1. Lakers= Say what you want about crazy pills, UNTIL he causes LA’s implosion ( the way every member of PTR is hoping he will) they should be regarded as numero uno. They are theoreticaly better with Artest than Ariza ( on paper anyway ) As if thats not enough, if Andrew " Putty knees " Bynum stays healthy…..look out.
2. Boston ( Im only putting boston here because they were the champs just 2 years ago). Does Los Angeles win the title last year if KG and Leon Powe are healthy? Just a thought)
3. Spurs= Alot of promise but just as many questions. If the spurs are healthy and peaking at the right time, they will have as good a chance as anyone to knock off the Lakers.
4. Orlando= Im assuming that Dwight will return this season with a Post game that begins to match his rebounding and shot-blocking abilities. In addition he has potentially the most help around him out of any MVP candidate not named Kobe Bryant. If Dwight is motivated to actually live up to Franchise type player/ Best big man in the league status, they will give Boston a serious run.
5. Cleveland= They will win 55 plus games again ( Who else in here thinks Lebrons minutes will be cut back next season ?) But how much gas is left in the Diesel, really ??
Cleveland cant beat Orlando OR Boston, even with the Big Snaqtus. Enough cant be said about what Lebron has managed to do with the less than stellar cast the inept Cleveland front office has managed to slap around the crybaby err…King. Its scary to think what Lebron would do if he had just one legitimate all star level side kick ( this omits Mo " I guarantee it " Williams, and perhaps even Shaq at this stage in his career) , and downright frightening to think of what hed accomplish if he had the help say…..Kobe does. Clearly Lebron is the most dominating player on earth. Too bad The Cavs probably arent going anywhere this season.
6. Does it really matter ? One of the aformentioned teams is winning the title.
Going Boston
that’s right Boston. Great starting 5, great front-court depth (for Garnett to rest and whatnot), the only knock I have on them is the lack of backcourt depth.
I predict a Boston/Lakers final with Boston once more walking away with the chip. Three stars will always trump one superstar. Just as it did in 08 and in 07 when the Spurs beat LeBron.
Until the rest of the East gets some stars, Boston is still a-top the conference. Magic still needs i think one more piece to go with Howard and Lewis, and the Cavs need to go back in time and stop from getting Shaq.
"You'll take my life but I'll take yours too. You'll fire you musket but I'll run you through. So when your waiting for the next attack. You'd better stand there's no turning back"- "The Trooper" by Iron Maiden
Hmm… LA has Gasol who is definitely at star level. Bynum is almost there and now they have Artest. Regarding the Magic they have Carter to go with Howard and Lewis, in addition they have Nelson who might not be considered a star but is a very good player. Just saying.
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by LasEspuelas on Aug 27, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
carter is worse than Hedo at this point in his career
plus Orlando lost some key depth.
I forgot about Gasol, but i think Garnett will match up well on him. Artest to me won’t be as good as what everyone says he’ll be. Just a feeling I have.
"You'll take my life but I'll take yours too. You'll fire you musket but I'll run you through. So when your waiting for the next attack. You'd better stand there's no turning back"- "The Trooper" by Iron Maiden
p.s.
LA’s bench except for odom is kinda suckish
"You'll take my life but I'll take yours too. You'll fire you musket but I'll run you through. So when your waiting for the next attack. You'd better stand there's no turning back"- "The Trooper" by Iron Maiden
Sorry dude but i have to disagree with you there. VC is still better than Hedo just no one notices it because (lets be honest) people stopped paying attention to Nets games when Kidd left. I think Nelson/Carter will be one of the best backcourts in the league.
"I've got Tim (Duncan) and you don't. That's the difference." -Gregg Popovich
Stan Van Gundy's already playing the disrespect card
This might belong in a Fan Shot but a couple of paragraphs from the L A Times today:
Stan Van Gundy’s Christmas wish is ignored
The Orlando coach feels his team isn’t getting the respect due an NBA finalist. He points out that the premier Christmas Day game is Lakers-Cavaliers, not Lakers-Magic.
What, Stan Van Gundy whine?
The Orlando Magic coach was complaining the other day about his team not getting the respect due an NBA finalist.
“For a team that went to the Finals, we really haven’t gotten the respect teams normally do,” Van Gundy said. “Based upon what we did last year I think our players do feel a little underappreciated and under-respected.”
As an example, Van Gundy pointed to a perceived slight by ABC, which usually puts the two Finals teams from the season before in the prime 2 p.m. slot on Christmas Day. This year it’ll be the Lakers and the Cleveland Cavaliers in the prime slot while the Magic play the Boston Celtics in the earlier game.
“It’s a lot of little things, and in the long run they’re not very important, but you feel it,” Van Gundy said. "Like the television schedule. Normally on Christmas Day, you get a rematch of the teams that played in the Finals.
“But instead, we get a Christmas Day matchup of the teams that they [ABC] wanted to see in the Finals.”
Haters beware: Kobe's drive for 5 starts now!-SLAM Magazine
Has he noticed that hobos on the street don’t get any respect either? Coincidence? NO! Both have terrible fashion sense, he needs to start dressing better and respect will follow.
It’s pretty much the only way Mike Dunleavy keeps his jobs as a coach:
My tapeworm tells me what to do.
by Hipuks on Aug 28, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah. If Mike Dunleavy was any good as the Clipper GM he could see how bad he is as the Clipper coach. But I think he still has a couple of years to go on his contract and the Clips are so cheap that they won’t fire him ‘cause they’d still have to pay him plus any new coach.
Haters beware: Kobe's drive for 5 starts now!-SLAM Magazine
I actually hate that I know even that much about that guy. I make a conscience effort to rid my brain of anything Clipper.
Haters beware: Kobe's drive for 5 starts now!-SLAM Magazine
I love it when someone makes “a conscience effort” — you, my Angeleno friend, just made the Lexicon.
Coming soon, to the PtR Home page. Yes, finally.
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Damn. I hate spelling! The worst is when you misspell something so badly that it passes spell check. At least conscience is a word according to Webster.
Hey dude thanks again for the Ken Rockwell stuff. I’ll actually be kicking him a few bucks – money I would have spent on a book or class. Do you have any other ideas of books, sites about photography info geared toward kids (10-15 yrs. old)? (Actually, Ken’s stuff isn’t too complex so maybe that is the best bet.)
Haters beware: Kobe's drive for 5 starts now!-SLAM Magazine
I haven’t seen anything in that range, although I’m sure there’s something out there. My oldest is nine and I’m just letting him go without too much instruction, so he’s not overthinking things — which is something we both tend to do.
I’d say that you might just be better off reading Ken’s tutorials and breaking it down for your 10 year old, so that he’s not being tasked with a) reading a book/website about photography and then b) going out and shooting pictures specifically to practice the things/methods/features he’s read about. But you know your kid, so that’s likely a case-by-case decision. As far as your teens are concerned, you might just turn them loose on Ken’s site and see what they can to themselves, and just let them ask you for help with anything they don’t quite get.
How’s that sound?
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Let him shoot a shitload of pictures. Most pros started without knowing anything about how to takes pictures, they just shot and shot and shot. Then they learned techniques and went to college, etc. But one cannot overstate the importance of just having the camera in your hands and shooting stuff. That’s a big reason my stuff isn’t very good, I just don’t shoot as much film as I should.
I have a photography book from National Geographic about how to take pictures. In the last parts famous photographers talk about their style, their technique, and all that stuff. The most impressive thing though, is when they talk about how many pictures they take during an assignment. This is from the days of film by the way. Shooting hundreds of pictures a week is normal for them. One guy shoot about 900 film rolls a week. Of course the people are pros, but to become good at anything, you just gotta do it a lot, and then some more.
My tapeworm tells me what to do.
Yeah. That’s the way to go. Take them somewhere interesting (or the backyard even), let them shoot a bunch, maybe have them put together a slideshow on the PC of their favorites and then discuss what they liked and didn’t like, etc.
From there I could help em explore the Ken Rockwell stuff.
Haters beware: Kobe's drive for 5 starts now!-SLAM Magazine
Do we have the best 1-5 in the NBA?
Who would you rank as the best starting 5?
Spurs: Tony, Manu , RJ, Tim, AD
Celtics: Rondo, Ray, Pierce, KG, Sheed
Lakers: Fisher, Kobe, Crazy, Odom, Gasol
With Manu off the bench, Celtics. Odom is off the bench too. Bynum is the 5. Gasol is the 4. I think Tim is our 5 and Dice is our 4 too.
Individually, the Celtics have the best 5 players. I’m not sure they are the better team though…This is very interesting. You could possibly add some other starting 5’s to that list too.
Blase…very true.
Dwight Howard doesnt exactly have a bad cast around him either….
Nelson, Carter, Lewis, Howard……..
Interesting to see who the new shooting guard will be since they traded away theyre starting Big guard Courtney Lee…. Redick ?
Dallas will have Kidd, Howard, Marion, Dirk, and Dampier. That is a talented 5. New Orleans and Atlanta have nice starting 5’s. They could be in the discussion but have no chance of winning. The Suns lineup looks better without Shaq. Depending on what you think of Batum and Oden, Portland has a good starting 5 too. Toronto and Washington have far improved/healed starting 5’s. Utah’s is nice too. The depth behind some of those 5’s is more sketchy.
Hmmm. J Kidd has become a better shooter but hes over the hill. I wouldnt describe Dampier as talented though…
I must say that I do love where this is going. But you can never have enough fives.
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Who would you rank as the best starting 5?
Hmm let me see. . .the Lakers are winners, the rest of them schlubs are losers. I’m gonna go with the Lakers.
Haters beware: Kobe's drive for 5 starts now!-SLAM Magazine
I agree in principle. You gotta beat the best to be the best.
But:
1) We got two new studs (RJ and AD).
2) You have one new SF (possibly two or three, considering his multiple personality disorder)
3) Out of the 15 players I mentioned, one player is the weakest at his position and the weakest of the 15: Fisher. Yes, he is clutch. Yes, he is a great leader. But, opposing PG’s regularly go for crazy buckets on him and he’s not in the same league as Tony or Rajon.
I guess the SI guy ranked the Spurs above the Lakers (hence the whole reason for this FanPost). So I am not going to argue with him. He gets paid to write about bball & I don’t. Obviously the only way to “prove” anything is by actually playing the games.
But I’ll give you my perspective on the 3 points you mention (please scroll on by if you don’t appreciate brutal honesty):
1) We got two new studs (RJ and AD).
Good ’cause last year even a healthy Spurs club was no where near good enough to beat a healthy Lakers team – like in a playoff series.
2) You have one new SF (possibly two or three, considering his multiple personality disorder)
I’ve always hated Artest so I would have kept Ariza if we could have for a reasonable cost. But Artest has some positives just like RJ. For example: I read Coach Pop discuss how RJ can play in the post on offense which the Spurs haven’t had at the SF in awhile. I don’t watch RJ enough to know but I bet RJ is easier for Artest to guard then the other way round. (But again, who knows until we actually see.)
3) Out of the 15 players I mentioned, one player is the weakest at his position and the weakest of the 15: Fisher. Yes, he is clutch. Yes, he is a great leader. But, opposing PG’s regularly go for crazy buckets on him and he’s not in the same league as Tony or Rajon.
I know, Fisher is getting real old but he does have more Finals apperences and as many rings as Tony & Rajon combined. So I’m going to stick with him for sentimental reasons.
But like I said can’t prove anything until they actually play the games. And no disrespect intended but I thought you deserved an answer.
Haters beware: Kobe's drive for 5 starts now!-SLAM Magazine
I’m really curious as to how RJ and Artest are going to fit in with their respective teams. Both offer the post aspect for the SF position that neither team has had in a while, plus some defensive improvements. If you look at those lineups, Fisher is the obvious choice for 15, but he has been there/done that. However, looking at the individuals doesn’t account for how the “team” is going to play. Should be some good playoffs next year.
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I still think Sasha is the weakest of the 15. For biased, non-basketball-related reasons.
by silverandblack_davis on Aug 29, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Dunno how Fisher having more rings than Parker means anything.
Luc Longley has one less ring than Kobe Bryant
No disrespect taken. Solid answer.
I think a healthy Manu and Tim would have been enough to take the Lakers to the brink. I know that sounds arrogant but it’s probably a reflection of how I (and most Spurs fans) feel about what Manu brings to the table.
You’re right. On both the offensive and defensive side of the post, Ron has RJ beat. Ron is a best down low.
Yeah, Fish has got a lot of experience and I see how that experience would trump pure speed/skill in a playoff match up against a green PG. But our Frenchie has climbed the mountain three times. He’s been a starting PG for crazy despotic coach for eight years and he’s a Finals MVP. He’s a real vet… AND he still has the pure speed/skill to tear opposing PG’s apart.
Regarding the first two points there is no way to know until they get on the court and see what happens. And like I said I’ve never liked Artest but hopefully he can bring some positives and not go crazy. (Ironically I think that Ariza helped the Lakers more vs. the Spurs with his quickness and Artest will help more against LeBron & Paul Pierce with his size & strength.)
Regarding Fisher & Tony, I don’t think that Fisher is better than Tony. And obviously Tony would be an asset to any team. But with Phil Jackson & his triangle stuff Fisher works for us if we can find some way to slow Tony down a little. That’s why I said I would stick with Fisher “for sentimental reasons”.
Haters beware: Kobe's drive for 5 starts now!-SLAM Magazine
(Ironically I think that Ariza helped the Lakers more vs. the Spurs with his quickness and Artest will help more against LeBron & Paul Pierce with his size & strength.)
Sadly, the Lakers will have to beat us (unless Portland puts you down first) to get to play those teams….
About Fisher and Tony, we’re debating top starting 5’s here. Fisher is the weak link in the Laker’s 5. Boston and SA have better starting 5’s because of it. If the argument is which team has the best 5 players at any position then it becomes more tricky.
In no particular order:
SA: Duncan, Manu, Parker, RJ, Dice
Boston: Pierce, KG, Allen, Wallace, Rondo
LA: Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, Odom, Artest
I think I’d go with Boston here but I think all three teams are really close. I like the Spurs 6-12 much more though.
we’re debating top starting 5’s here
OK I don’t have much to say about that. Admittedly my fondness for Fisher is largely sentimental. And obviously plenty of people like the Spurs or Celtics or Cavs, Blazers, etc. Fine with me.
Sadly, the Lakers will have to beat us (unless Portland puts you down first) to get to play those teams….
Yes, that is why I started with the word “ironically”. Plus there is no way we have to play more than one of the Celtics, Cavs, or Magic in the playoffs. But we could easily have to face the Spurs & Blazers & (insert your other fav western team here).
But I am confident the Lakers will be able to beat the crap out of those loser teams compete favorably with any of those other fine teams.
Haters beware: Kobe's drive for 5 starts now!-SLAM Magazine
Id say LA edges out Boston, San Antonio and Orlando for the "Team with the best 5 " title, with
Kobe,smArtest,Odom, Gasol and Bynum.
Unfortunately for LA, they also win the " Epic falloff in talent and ability after the best 5 " award. By a Landslide.
Also, I doubt Manu status as Spurs Sixth man will change next season. Specially with the addition of the Bachelor.
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