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Get To Know Your New Spurs #3: San Antonio McDyess

Cut up, chop, cube, gamble, risk, stake, bet, wager, venture, hazard, chance.

Find out what these blurbs mean after the jump.

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Cut up, chop, cube. Gamble, risk, stake, bet, wager, venture, hazard, chance. These were the words that came out when I typed Dice and pulled up the trusty MS thesaurus, and maybe appropriately so. Everyone knows it’s a huge gamble to pay someone who’s on the wrong side of 30 and has had a history of scary knee injuries. But what a good investor always does and probably what excellent GMs do, is to look at factors which mitigate risk. We all kinda have an idea on what makes Antonio McDyess a great fit in the Spurs’ system. But what I’d like to emphasize on is one of his intangibles – toughness, which I believe is a huge risk-mitigating factor.

ATS previously mentioned in one of his posts, Cashmere, that we seemed to have lost an edge in the physicality and competitiveness department and then some last season. I think McDyess can bring it back.  Not sexy back unfortunately, though we already have Manu for that. But you can count on Antonio to light up his teammates’ arses when they’re trying to take the night off. Heck, I’m wishing he lights a fire under my hood during Spurs games so I can follow what LatinD said and join this upcoming season’s game threads because that’s supposedly where the magic happens, ya know?

 

So since I can’t contribute any more geek-worthy statistics – the guys at 48MoH already did a superb effort on that – I’ll bore you, or maybe scare you with stories of how tough this nutcracker called Dice is. I ripped out some of the stories on this site. It’s a nice bio of ‘Tonio, and then some other stuff over the net that may prove to be interesting. Time to get intimate then.

 

Quitman Ain't For Quitters

He was born in Quitman, Mississippi, which at that time was a population numbering less than 3,000 and didn’t even register in map searches over the internet, pre-Google. His mother, Gloria, was a strict woman and one of the things he told young Antonio and his brothers to avoid was a body of water called the Chickasawhay River (say it again with me now). Eventually though, a pre-teen Dice couldn’t stop his curiosity for the said place, and ended up going there with a friend. With the river swollen from a recent rain storm, the two lost their footing and got sucked into the water. Dice couldn’t remember anything then, and the next thing he knew, one of his brothers was pulling him out from the river. After making sure her son was okay, Gloria meted out a mysterious but severe enough punishment to guarantee Antonio would never go near the Chickasawhay again. Small town boy with a bad-ass mother and barely survived the wrath of Mother Nature?

Toughness criteria # 1: Mothers Know Best – check.

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They always had great cook outs by the river, I guess.

 

In The Navy... sort of.

Antonio McDyess has three older brothers (and a younger sister). The McDyess boys often played football. I could just imagine the athleticism going on during their scrimmages, it must’ve been frightening for a non-athletic dude like me. But Antonio also liked basketball, and his favorite player was --- any guesses? --- the Admiral himself, David Robinson. Whipped around into shape by monstrous big brothers and idolized a muscular Navy Man?

Toughness criteria # 2: It’s A Big Man’s World – book it.

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It could happen for Antonio. (please disregard little box to your left and pretend that didn't even happen)


The Fab One

When he joined the University of Alabama Crimson Tide (man, I like this name) basketball team in 1993, the team was said to be long on talent but short on heart. With Antonio McDyess? No longer. He fractured his cheekbone in the preseason and donned a protective mask for the first 18 games, producing an average of 11.4 pts, 8.1 rebs, 1.5 blks and 1.1 stls during his freshman campaign while starting half of the Tide’s games. A kid showing older guys how it’s done?

Toughness criteria # 3: Age Got Nothing On Me – pwned!

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The Ultimate Warrior lives!


Meeting With Greatness

McDyess was drafted 2nd overall in 1995 by the Los Angeles Clippers and, the Clips, staying true to the pathetic history of the franchise, traded him to the Denver Nuggets for Rodney Rogers, the 15th pick that turned out to be Brent Bones Barry, and complete season DVDs of Friends, Two And A Half Men, and I Dream of Jeannie. Okay, I completely made up the last one… but it’s the Clippers, so maybe not. McDyess had his first taste of the postseason in a clash with the Spurs in 1998 as a member of – surprise, surprise – the Phoenix Suns, and went up against the much revered San Antonio Twin Towers. In that series, Tim Duncan showed Dice how it’s done and more importantly, showed Dice how to win, posting 20.3 pts on 57% shooting, 9.8 rebs and 3.8 blks to promptly sweep the higher seeded Suns. McDyess wasn’t half-bad actually, averaging 17.8 pts on 48% shooting, 13.3 rebs and 1.5 blks. Tim Duncan-owned-me-I hope I join him in the future moment?

Toughness criteria # 4: Tim Duncan is the GPFOAT (Greatest PF Of All-Time) Realization – yes way.


Timmeh, wtf? Oh, nice block, Dice.

 

The Scare

I know this wouldn’t be a complete primer on San Antonio (not the team, but the player) if we didn’t get the lowdown on his injury history. His first one came in the 2001-2002 season when he partially tore the patella tendon in his left knee during the Nuggets’ training camp. He tried to gut it out for ten games, but eventually decided on surgery that ended his season. After recovering and being traded to the New York Knicks, he would re-injure that left knee once again, this time in a game against Phoenix in a preseason clash. As Charley Rosen, our favorite resident bearded senile old man, then writing for ESPN’s Page 2, narrated,

Then came that fateful preseason game against Phoenix. McDyess had already logged 38 minutes, and the game clock registered 1:55 [time left in the game], when he jumped and reached for the moon, intending to dunk the ball before he landed.

As McDyess was a certified All-Star at 6-foot-9, 245 pounds, with a history of effective pivot play (career averages of 17.7 ppg and 8.8 rebounds), it was not totally insane for Knicks execs, players and fans to see McDyess as their antidote to their recent fall from the playoffs. But, presto chango! A tangle of legs, an awkward fall, and when McDyess tumbled to the floorboards, he fractured his left kneecap. The Knicks' season now seems over before it had even begun.

Rosen then proceeds to smash the Knicks’ "brainless trust" for still leaving Antonio that late in a freaking preseason game. But that’s another story, and another smudge on the Knicks’ colorfully tainted history. Another promising season for Dice ended then and there. Six months into rehab, doctors determined that the healing was too slow and they wanted another surgery – a bone graft operation. In 2003, McDyess was back in Phoenix but struggled to stay healthy because of recurring knee issues. But that seemed to be the last of his injury struggles. He signed with Detroit in 2004, and the rest as they say is history. Surviving horrible franchises and a career-ending injury?

Toughness criteria #5: New York Knicks Survivor a.k.a. I’ve Been To Hell and Back – checkers.

Toughness criteria #6: The Injury Bounce Back – passed with flying colors.

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Knee injuries: NASTY.

 

And I Quote

Some Antonio McDyess quotes:

"I just go and play hard. That’s who I am."

"I can’t be someone I’m not. I try to be a warrior on the court, but where I come from, being macho doesn’t get you anywhere."

"I got a big knot behind my head. What I went through for a couple years with my knee, this is minor." [speaking to the media while wearing a band-aid over the two stitches under his right eye, which was oozing with blood]

 

Other people on 'Tonio:

Darvin Ham:  "He knows when to bring the dogs out. What that kid's been through, man, it's a blessing that he's still out here walking, let alone playing. I was with him my rookie year in Denver. He's one of the nicest guys in the world, great talent, great person to be around, no ego whatsoever. They say good things happen to good people and they have."

Joe Dumars: "His only agenda is to win."

Larry Brown: "He's an underrated defender, he can make a shot and he is the best teammate.''


Witness - San Antonio making diced meat out of KG and the C's.

 

Capping It Off

Antonio wears a mesh bracelet embroidered with a small reptile and the letters "F.R.O.G.," which stands for "Fully Reliant On God." Religious, grounded, humble man with a soft spot for amphibians?

He was also the MVP of the Otis Spunkmeyer Basketball Classic during his sophomore year at Alabama. Otis  who? That’s right, it’s a joint distributing muffins and cookies! How cute. Destroying the competition in a tournament sponsored by a pastry shop?

Toughess criteria #... it’s off the charts!!!


Take that, French guy running down court who looked like Carlos Delfino.

 

In all honesty and to bring some sense of realism in here, I’m not sure if this pick up will deliver us the championship. Sometimes, however, I like to put my faith in something just because it seems worth believing in. Antonio McDyess is already far removed from his glory days as a thoroughbred athlete, but there’s something in the guy that made it hard for me to root against him when he was in Detroit. And now that he’s a Spur, I just think that the basketball gods had something to do with it. He’s one of the few nice guys in the league, but more importantly, he has never waivered for a minute on his true goal, and that is to win.

I'm shamelessly quoting a long segment from a Piston fan's blog (you can read the entirety here, it's a good read) because of two things: 1) to put in retrospect how lucky we Spurs fans were for winning that hard-fought 2005 championship (kudos to some people who don't need reminding as I've seen it discussed recently in a thread); and 2) it's a great anecdote on McDyess' will to win that would be difficult for me to rephrase and destroy in a silly manner.

Mention the 2005 NBA Finals to a Pistons fan. One thing usually comes to mind immediately. Game 5...Rasheed...Horry...ballgame. In a nutshell, that was the series. Or so everyone is led to believe. That loss, while as devastating a loss that any team could experience, did not decide the series. The Pistons stormed in to San Antonio and snatched Game 6. It was now a one game series. Winner take all. And to nobody's surprise, Antonio McDyess came with everything he had in Game 7. He was magnificent. Burying his patent fadeaway on the left baseline, hitting the offensive and defensive glass harder than anyone else on the floor, dishing to Big Ben for easy dunks, blocking shots...he was doing everything. When Rasheed Wallace picked up his 4th foul early in the 3rd, the score was tied. And you know who was entering the game. I always felt that if the Spurs were given an option at that point to remove two of Wallace's fouls and let him stay on the court instead of bringing in McDyess, they would have agreed without an ounce of trepidation. You just didn't wanna mess with Antonio in Game 7. It was his night. Or at least it should have been.

As the 3rd quarter wore on, a pattern was starting to emerge. The Pistons were taking control of this game. A 9-0 run culminating in an easy layup for McDyess had the San Antonio fans nearly silent. Not ones to go away softly, Duncan and Ginobili teamed up for 7 straight of their own. Larry Brown called timeout. The lead was down to 2, and the crowd was practically tearing the roof off of the SBC Center. The Pistons needed a bucket in the worst way. Out of the T.O., our man cans a 20-footer. Nails. Nobody wanted it more. Another Dyess board. Tay with a jumper, and the lead was 6 again. You got the feeling that the Pistons had taken the Spurs best shot, and managed to steal the momentum right back. We were 16 minutes from back-to-back titles. Then came one of the most questionable coaching decisions in basketball history.

McDyess picked up his 4th foul with about 4 minutes to go in the 3rd. Boom...here comes Lindsey Hunter jumping up off the bench. This was Game 7 of the NBA Finals. There was just over a quarter of basketball left to decide a champion. If you asked anyone who had been the best Piston to that point in the game, the answer would be simple: Antonio McDyess. The only way that decision makes any sense is if Larry Brown was planning on inserting Dyess at the beginning of the 4th quarter, and he wanted to make sure he still had 2 fouls to work with. Get him out now for the rest of the 3rd, try and keep the cushion, and bring him back to start the final quarter. But even trying to justify the move with that line of thinking is flawed. The Pistons were in control, on the road, with limited time remaining in the most important game of the entire season. And we were willingly removing our best player from the lineup because he had 4 fouls? A guy that had fouled out exactly one time in the last 89 games? There has never been a more appropriate situation to say, "If we lose this game, it's gonna be with our best players on the court." The rest of the night is still blurry in my mind...everything happened so fast.

Much like the Pistons of this year, the small lineup LB employed (Chauncey, Lindsey, Rip, Tay, Ben) to end that 3rd was a disaster. The 6 point lead McDyess left with evaporated and the game was deadlocked heading into the 4th. Only, McDyess was still stapled to the bench. You'd have thought his removal in the 3rd was strictly done so he could come back aggressively to start the 4th. Incorrect. Larry Brown left him sitting there, unable to help his team win the title that he so desperately craved. Rasheed Wallace now played in his stead. The same Rasheed Wallace that had left Robert Horry alone at the end of Game 5 and would total exactly one rebound in this deciding contest. Duncan took over from there, either scoring or drawing double teams to allow for open 3's. Bowen...Horry...more Manu...the game that had once looked so promising was now turning into a nightmare. By the time Coach Brown decided it was safe to allow Antonio McDyess to reenter with his 4 fouls, half the quarter was gone and the 6 point lead he'd left with was now a 6 point deficit. It was uneventful from there. McDyess stayed on the court for all of 3 minutes, took 1 shot, and was removed for good. The Spurs ended up winning by 7, a 13 point swing from the moment McDyess was yanked in the 3rd.

 

Mr. Duncan, I’d like to believe the title of kingmaker belongs to you and not Shaq. You made David a champion. You gave a Larry ‘O Brien to Sean Elliot. You had Finley sleeping at night childishly cuddling that championship-winning ball to sleep. You helped Manu complete his championship resume. You gave way for him and Tony to excel while silently sculpting behind the scenes another one of your championship pieces. I say – no, humbly request – that this season, even year notwithstanding: win it for Dice. Win it for someone who truly deserves it and really wants it more than any bushwhack in the league pretending to do so.

 

To my beloved Spurs: let’s win it for the good guy. 

 

"Never underestimate the heart of a champion." - Rudy T.

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Great Post, Davis. Recc’d to Timmy’s Paintball field.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie

by bellasa on Jul 9, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Deja Vu?

When I first heard we signed Dice, I was hesitant to call this a good move as it seemed that we had signed a guy a little too old for a little too much money. But now that I see that Dice/Crimson Tide/Horry connection I feel a little bit better. Maybe he surprises us all and learns to shoot clutch 3s?

If you try and take a cat apart to see how it works, the first thing you have on your hands is a non-working cat.

by Windex40 on Jul 9, 2009 5:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you need to give us a warning regarding nasty injury pictures!!

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on Jul 9, 2009 6:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like Einstein is surprised by the nasty injury pic.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 9, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is certainly freaked out…

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on Jul 9, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry LE. By the way, did you notice that gross contusion on Shaun’s knee?

by silverandblack_davis on Jul 10, 2009 4:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AHHHH! enough with the injuries : (

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on Jul 10, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The man I wanted all along

I’m so incredibly happy we got Dice.

Awesome thing happened to me today. Was playing some weird game where you roll dice to move up spots on this snake thing, first one to the head wins. Anywho, first roll of the dice was the number 5. Spooky isn’t it?

Randy Blythe, Singer of Lamb of God- "Words can be broken, so can bones....." Omerta by Lamb of God

by KA1Z3R on Jul 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I always felt that Tim Duncan made both parker and ginobili nba stars. Without his leader ship and unselfishness i dont know if they could be were they are today. McyDess is going to help us out in the boards. Plus we finally have a guy to help TImmy deffended and shot blocking

GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)

by Manu-20 on Jul 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

plus Dyess and blair share a lot of the same play style

as both are great rebounder at their respective levels. Possible mentor in place for blair?

Randy Blythe, Singer of Lamb of God- "Words can be broken, so can bones....." Omerta by Lamb of God

by KA1Z3R on Jul 9, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Made them stars? Hm, dunno. Definitely made them champions, though.

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by LatinD on Jul 9, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What number is he going to wear?

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jul 9, 2009 7:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

jump shot

is it me or does his j seem a lil akward…

by JoshuaV on Jul 9, 2009 8:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it's you...

It looks nice and smoove to me.

Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. --Andy Dufresne

by tomasito on Jul 9, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea it might be me..

by JoshuaV on Jul 9, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s smooth, as in he has no jerky action to his shot, but it’s a bit of unusual looking shot. As long as it goes in, i don’t care if the guy shoots grannie style.

by xman130 on Jul 9, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His feet are pretty close together when he sets up but his release is picture perfect.

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jul 9, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is mechanic with that jump shoot, every piston game I’ve seen he never seems to miss. Lets hope he can keep it up. Now lets pray for the health lords to do their thing and we are in good position.

"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"

by Chilai on Jul 9, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the style works for him

the only style of anything that needs questioned on here is Timmy D’s foul shooting

Randy Blythe, Singer of Lamb of God- "Words can be broken, so can bones....." Omerta by Lamb of God

by KA1Z3R on Jul 10, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

… and Bon-Bon’s running style.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is really good davis.

Where has Stampler been through all this? When he’s active I find myself annoyed with him most of the time but when he’s absent I am wondering “what’s Stampler think of this?” and I miss his posts.

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jul 9, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Twitter said he was in Cancun.

I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!

by Tim C. on Jul 9, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

twitter

im on twitter follow me if you want or bored @joshjames22

by JoshuaV on Jul 9, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I think he also tweet(ed) that he got a job. Way to go Michael!

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie

by bellasa on Jul 9, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Win the Ice for Dice

You out did yourself here. I’ve never paid much attention to Dice in years past. I feel foolish for not appreciating him. He will be a great Spur.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Jul 9, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow Davis. I am speechless. Recc’ed to the 37th pick many times over!!!

I remember that game 7 night very clearly. I think we talked about it in some thread recently too. That night is still my everlasting image of McDyess. The guy gave it his all, and was relentless, every turnaround baseline jumpshot going in. I exhaled one time that whole night when he was pulled out. And in the fourth I waited nervously for his return and then presto, nothing happened. To this day I feel we might have lost if they had gone to McDyess in the 4th.

The only piston I felt sorry for after the game. Guy was a warrior.

by LionZion on Jul 9, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

excellent post.

by theonlyromeo on Jul 9, 2009 9:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Especially love the last para there bro. If we can do it for McDyess, we could have a better legacy for the Timmy era than the legacy power players(read lakers, celts, pistons etc), that of winning it for the good guys :)

by LionZion on Jul 9, 2009 9:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Loved the post, Davis, seriously. You’re a credit to this blog. I learnt a lot about my new favorite guy, McDyess, after seeing your enthusiasm and for some reason I feel like he’s already a true Spur.

Recced to jolly’s knack for memes.

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by LatinD on Jul 9, 2009 10:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rec’d! Great read, very insightful.

by xman130 on Jul 9, 2009 10:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I gotta say this was an awesome read. You outdid yourself (and even outdid your awesome RJ post) with this one.

So who’s next? Blair?

I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!

by Tim C. on Jul 9, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m having a tough out researching on the new guys, but we’ll see :)

by silverandblack_davis on Jul 10, 2009 4:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am loving this thread. Recc’ed again. Gotta stop being generous.

by LionZion on Jul 9, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For a while now you’ve been keeping this place active with your thoughtful and plentiful comments, jolly. I just wanted to thank you for making this a cooler place to hang out while I waste my life on the Internet. Recced, man, and stay around.

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Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on Jul 9, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto, LD. For he’s a jolly good fellow.

And jrw – recc’ed right back at ya!

by silverandblack_davis on Jul 10, 2009 4:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent analogy JRW,

The one thing I sometimes used to hate about christmas though, is when both you (Spurs) and your older bully brother (Celtics) would both want the same thing, a BB gun (Sheed). And your brother would harass the hell out of your dad and be so annoying about it all the time. Meanwhile, your strategy for getting the BB Gun was simple, writing it in a letter to Santa, explaining why how much you wanted it, and how you’ve been a good boy all year and felt you deserved it. So Christmas comes around, and it seems like your brother’s begging (Flying to Detroit and telling the media) worked to his advantage, and he gets the BB Gun. So you open your present, and it’s a slingshot (McDyess). “A slingshot?” you think to yourself, “what are we in the 19th century?”

I’m glad we got Dice.

Your dad then comes over to you and explains:

“Oscar, I know you wanted a BB gun, but you’ll find that a slingshot better suits you. For starters, a BB gun requires way too much time and effort to keep it working properly and effectively. Not only do you have to waste your resources to buy the pellets, every now and then, you also run the risk of it jamming up and deciding not to work. Then you’ll have to open it up, make sure the spring is working well and all that stuff. I won’t even mention how potentially dangerous BB guns run the risk of being at any given moment, they could poke someone’s eye out! Haven’t you saw that stupid movie that’s been playing all day?

A slingshot on the other hand, is more down to earth and rugged. It’s ammo can be found anywhere without even looking hard or for too long. It’s sturdier, doesn’t require maintaining, and you don’t run the risk of someone getting mad at you for poking their eye out. Sure BB guns hurt, but it’s a sting hurt, not a bruise hurt. You’ll have more fun with this slingshot, trust me. I have a feeling you’ll do great things together."

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 10, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

ahh, the glad we got Dice part was supposed to be in the bottom, but i’m a moron.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 10, 2009 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great analogy right back at ya, TLO.

I was seriously GOLing over

every now and then, you also run the risk of it jamming up and deciding not to work.

Good Terrific stuff.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks JRW,

That was always one of my main concerns with Sheed, him getting pissed at a call, and complaining to the refs instead of continuing to play. I tried making the poking the eye out being his technicals, but now that I think of it, he gets infinitely more techs than eyes have gotten poked out from BB guns. In retrospect, His technicals should have been the little bullets that as hard as you try to keep and collect after you shot them, you always lose one every now and then. And even though it’s only one, it adds up after a while.

Anyways, perhaps one day you can tell me what GOL stands for. My guess is giggling out loud. Correct?

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 10, 2009 2:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s Guffawing Out Loud — I’m particularly gratified that it’s caught on as much as it has.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 2:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And, since the last couple of days have become a tutorial of sorts, I should mention that GOL should ONLY be used when you actually do guffaw out loud.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 2:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that’s a even better analogy

by spursfan87 on Jul 10, 2009 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I merely added to a great idea, but thanks.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 10, 2009 2:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Humble too, eh? We are going to get along.

; )

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If only I were as humble as you have been patient with me ignorance of PtR oh great JRW.

Hehe, okay that was a bit too much. Your knowledge is greatly appreciated though.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 10, 2009 2:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy to help, as most of us here are.

If you have another question, just pull this string and the little green flag goes up. One of us will help you. When your question’s answered, pull the string the other way, and the flag goes right back down. See?

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What? In the way that opposites attract?

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 10, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely, ATS. You know how full of myself I am.

And, like any good co-dependent, I need an enabler that will facilitate my unhealthy lifestyle until I destroy us both. I’m so happy to have found that person in TLO.

Now, I just need to know the origin of his handle, and it’s all settled.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just ask JRW, but first explain what you mean by origin of handle… so we can then begin our destruction process, or should I say, you can begin our destruction process.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 10, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Basically, how did you come about using that screen name?

I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!

by Tim C. on Jul 10, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, my name’s Oscar, as you might have guessed. I also am a fan of Oscar Robertson (although he might be a tad bit overrated) because of his versatility. Robertson is 6’5, and i’m only 6’0, so that also had a little bit to do with it. When I play pick-up games, I try to model my game after him (although I probably play more like a PF). Some friends from college call me Big O (which i’m not particularly fond of because it makes me seem like a sexual harasser/crazy nymph). Anyways, I knew The Big O wouldn’t fly in a basketball site, but mainly, it makes me seem like an egotistical jerk to call myself that. the little o however, is sufficiently adequate and modest.

How about you JRW?

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 10, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oscar overrated?

I doubt it, even though i’ve never watched him play, his numbers are ridiculous. Everything i’ve read about him describes him as one of the greats, a superstar, and that he was the Jordan of his time, without a supporting cast that is.

McDyess can bring [toughness] back. Not sexy back unfortunately, though we already have Manu for that.~silverandblack_davis

by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 10, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well I only said a tad bit overrated. I read somewhere that the pace back then was so much quicker, that it helped him pad his stats into double figures. And that Lebron, who averages, around 27 7 7, would have like a 40 14 14 if he played at the pace that they did. I mean, I have no doubt that during his time, he was not overrated, the people of that time knew who he was, and how he played and probably considered him how people consider Jordan now, however, It’s the current people that might be more baffled with his numbers today, without taking into account the frantic pace at which the game was played during his time.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 10, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

all will be revealed in time

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We named our dog Oscar after Oscar Robertson and referred to him as ‘The Little O’ when he was young.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 11, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, I often hear the people’s pets are named Oscar when I meet them and tell them my name. But to hear that someone’s pet was referred to as my username (handle) is just a little out of the norm. Do you picture your dog typing all of these things from your computer whenever you’re not looking every time I comment? That’s what I would be thinking.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 11, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I miss you ATS, come back home and feed me bacon bytes!!

woof.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 11, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s called “co-dependency” for a reason. It can’t happen without BOTH of us being engaged.

That means that we will be beginning our destruction process.

Now, I insult you, and then you blame yourself for setting me off. And we’re on our way.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I need an enabler that will facilitate my unhealthy lifestyle until I destroy us both.
until I destroy us both
I destroy
I

I’m sorry JRW, I guess I must’ve read wrong. I am sorry. This is all my fault.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 10, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GOL²

That’s the spirit. I’m glad that didn’t take more explaining.

We’re off to a good start.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GOL-den

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on Jul 10, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nicely done. I like the little twist.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is such a great continuation of jrw’s analogy. Rec for both of you.

Plus, it reminds me of my most favorite Christmas movie ever!

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Jul 10, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the first 12 seconds of this trailer, there are at least 3 different things to GOL at.

And I did.

Cap, I’m with you. This pic is about as perfect as it can be. I’m so glad I own it.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always thought “Electric Sex” would be a perfect name for a rock band.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie

by bellasa on Jul 10, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you ever heard of the band electric six? it’s a good band but I don’t listen to them that much. two songs that I think you should listen to from them though, have to be “Naked Pictures, of your Mother”, and “Danger! Danger! High Voltage” watch the video for danger danger, it’s awesome.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 10, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

THAT is one long kiss.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uncomfortably long.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, yeah, they’re so weird and ridiculous.

for those who like the white stripes, jack white did the vocals for the girl in that song. Of course, he won’t admit to it (I don’t know why)

The other song is pretty cool too, just as ridiculous. and good of course

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 10, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

 Fire in the taco bell? Seriously Absurd.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie

by bellasa on Jul 10, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fire is codeword in the song for passionate flaming love, or at the very least, a hardcore make-out session (in case you haven’t figured it out). At least that’s what I think.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 11, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and “Gleaming from the front window” could be their first album.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Overcome by Art”

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie

by bellasa on Jul 10, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

G O L — yes, that could be their sophomore slump release.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sex Pistols, that was a perfect name.

Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on Jul 10, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec’d JRW. Also, one last question concerning Rec’s, I promise.

It is required for you to inform the person that you Rec’d their comment, or is there a way for them to know who Rec’d it? If that is not that is not the case, could you possibly go around Reccing everything (no pun intended) and making people wonder who it is that’s been going around with this barrel of rec’s and throwing it out everywhere like it was nothing (kinda like Cuban with his money)?

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 10, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve been known to give out stealth recs.

I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!

by Tim C. on Jul 10, 2009 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorta blew your cover there didn’t you

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 10, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll admit that I’m a stealth rec’er myself, from time to time. And, no, there’s no way to tell who’s rec’d you unless they admit it. Generally, if I feel that it fits in nicely with my meta-commentary (commenting on someone’s comment) then I’ll mention the rec. But sometimes, I don’t have anything to add (Really, jrw? Yes, really. It only seems like I comment on everything under the PtR sun. Sometimes I actually let stuff just go by) and I’ll just drop a rec and go on my merry way.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

great post. definitely learned a lot more about him. i was always annoyed with him when we played detroit, because he seemed to make everything he shot. it’s good to have him aboard, and hopefully he continues to provide that same annoyance to opposing teams and their fans.

by znimrod on Jul 9, 2009 11:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I lived in Denver during McDyess’ heyday, athletically, and got to see those good Nuggets teams in 95 / 96 / 97, with Dice, LaPhonso Ellis, Deke. Those were good teams, no question. Still rooted for the Spurs but appreciated what those teams did.

What impressed me about Dice was how he fought hard and reinvented himself after the knee injuries. People don’t realize that he went through a three-year period where he played in only 52 games. Total. And sat out one of those seasons completely.

As a rookie, his athleticism was off the charts. 6’10", amazing hops, good hands, fast, all of those things. Average (maybe slightly below) shooter and passer. And ended up playing a lot of SF in Denver because he was not strong enough to be a good position rebounder.

Now at 34, he’s and undersized 4, but considered one of the better per minute rebounders in the league. He’s developed a sweet jumper from 18 feet in and has, amazingly, grown softer hands since he was 20. But, just about everyone thought he was done, cooked, headed out to pasture, after sitting out 02-03.

I will confess that I thought Sheed was a better fit for us this year, but the Dice signing has reminded me what a determined person he is and what a credit he will be to a Spurs uniform. Here’s hoping this season ends with his ultimate goal – his hands wrapped around the Larry O’Brien Trophy.

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain

by spurchief on Jul 10, 2009 12:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

5 in 10

I’m with you, ’chief. We get McDyess his ring, and make it five in ’10 for Timmeh.

Color me stoked.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post Silver! Rec’ed to the Hooter’s Hotel and Casino.

It is what it is.
We are who we are.

by SinCitySpur on Jul 10, 2009 2:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Antonio’s success and who he is comes not from the basketball gods, but rather b/c he is F.R.O.G.

by 4Him on Jul 10, 2009 2:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Werd, and word.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed, JRW, indeed.

McDyess can bring [toughness] back. Not sexy back unfortunately, though we already have Manu for that.~silverandblack_davis

by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 10, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks everyone. All for PtR and the Spurs, really :)

by silverandblack_davis on Jul 10, 2009 4:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks davis, that post was sofa king awesome!

checkout the new sig baby!

McDyess can bring [toughness] back. Not sexy back unfortunately, though we already have Manu for that.~silverandblack_davis

by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 10, 2009 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sofa king — yes.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

permissable?

McDyess can bring [toughness] back. Not sexy back unfortunately, though we already have Manu for that.~silverandblack_davis

by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 10, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

encouraged

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 10, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice article. Man are we ever lucky to have a couple of geniuses in Pop and Buford. I can’t wait for the season to get started. Dice instead of Sheed could be the move that didn’t happen that brings the title back home. Sheed’s attitude isn’t needed on our team. Look how bringing attitude to your team has helped the Cubs with the singing of Milton Bradley. It’s not working for them and i don’t believe it would’ve worked for us. Dice on the other hand fits perfectly. Sheed I said good day sir. I said good day sir!!!!

RLTW

by Spurs Fan By The Grace Of GOD on Jul 11, 2009 2:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You lose! Good day, sir!

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 11, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks and welcome to PtR Spurs Fan BTGOG.

My Curious George self moves me to ask two questions for you: 1) any background on your handle? (the nick that you use, or whatever you call it); and 2) what’s RLTW? I googled it and found something military-related.

by silverandblack_davis on Jul 11, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah, shit… should’ve clicked on reply.

by silverandblack_davis on Jul 11, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s easy to miss, innit?

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 11, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah… sometimes I get caught in the heat of the moment.

by silverandblack_davis on Jul 11, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know what you mean.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 14, 2009 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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