Spurs Become Favorites to Land McDyess
This can only be good. Nothing official yet, obviously.
Update: The Express-News is now reporting the same thing. The deal is rumored to be 3 years at the full MLE(with the 3rd year being a retirement kicker).
Update #2: PistonPost is reporting that it's a done deal. No independent verification yet.
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we should go after marion, he can gives us what odom gave to the lakers, a guy that can play and guard multiple positions. Then we should sign elson for the minimum.
I don’t think Marion fits on the Spurs. He is going to want to take a lot of shots and he is going to take them early in the shotclock. We’d be better off spending the money on a post player.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
I think marion would give us a more versatile team, he can space the floor and is a good defender.
And also dont get me wrong, abourt dice, i love dice in the spurs, hes a spurs type of guy, but i dont think he is worth the full MLE though. I like his offense and his defense is decent, but he is not a shot blocker (thats why i liked rasheed more), and we need another shot blocker. Either way i think why should sign elson for the minimum.
I also like marvin williams but i think the hawks are going to match any offer
Spursfan........
The thought of a more athletic version of robert horry running all of those plays almost makes me wet myself….
I think marion could fill the robert horry role very well ( if the spur culture could convince him to play team ball)
That’s just it… Shawn Marion isn’t a team player. Never has been, never will be.
I like McDyess, he’s a smart, team player. I’m not crazy about the 3 years, but I’ll take it in a heart beat.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie
Bellasa…..one or two years ago i would have agreed with that sentiment….but Marion has made a Guhzillion dollars . The guy has to have some sort of hunger to win a title ( maybe not) but who knows….
Maybe he does maybe he doesn’t. But you’ve got to know that McDyess absolutely does. I think he’s had a taste of a championship and I think he wants that chance again.
In the end I think Marion will go to the team that offers him the most dough. He’s talented, but he helped the Phoenix Suns implode. I’d rather not have that potential cancer on our team.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie
+ a billion
In addition, we already have a guy with one of the Top 5 Ugliest Shots in the league (Ginger), we don’t need the perennial champion as well.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 7, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
With a Top 5 Ugly Jumpshot, to boot.
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Have you guys watched the same Marion all of these years? He would not mesh well with the Spurs. Though he is a good defender, he will want lots of offensive touches. He is not a grind it out half-court player, but an open-court flyer.
I don’t even know where he gets his minutes? Is he going to split time at the 3 with RJ? That’s not enough for both of them. He is not a guard and RJ really plays better at the the 3 than the 2. Having both of them means RJ will spend some time at the 2 and/or he will spend time at the 4. Either way, I don’t really like it. It’s either small-ball, or poor-ball-handler-ball.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
I imagine the idea is for him to play as an undersized 4 and move Timmy to the 5. I don’t like it.
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Plus, he’s not tall enough to match up with Gasol and Bynum, and that’s what we need.
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. --Andy Dufresne
and old knees.
This is why I wanted a big C, like Gortat, and not another PF.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Who is talking about 3 years now? I thought we were offering 2? 3 years is too much. If he is over the hill by next season we can trade his expiring contract.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
Just noticed the update above. I guess they feel they have to offer 3 years to beat out the other contenders. Too bad since 2 years would be about right for someone as old as him, but at least it isn’t a huge contract.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
i think it isnt as bad as many think… he’ll help this year, maybe do situation duty the next, and then do a JV (veteran-locker-room-presence-mentor-to-young-guys). he also reminds me of kevin willis. dunno why. we kept willis for 2 yrs and it seemed like a lifetime. we’ll see how this one ends.
by theonlyromeo on Jul 7, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the third year is partially guaranteed, which would make him very attractive trade bait/expiring contract in that third year. It would allow us to trade with a team looking to save money; the other team could send us a player with his equivalent salary, then cut him to save more cash.
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. --Andy Dufresne
He is strictly an uptempo player on a team with a strong passing point guard (Nash, Calderon). Why did he struggle in Miami? Dwyane Wade is their defacto point guard. Tony looks a lot more like Wade than he does Nash. He would get lost in our Tony-Tim-Manu centric offense. And then he would get pissy and Pop would have him sent to the Ukraine in a small box.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain
Great news
I prefer him to Sheed although Sheed is probably more worth the MLE. I just want players to want to be Spurs and say, “yeah, leBron, your team is competing for chips and offered the same amount of money but I like Duncan and the Spurs better.” Plus, who wants a team where TD is the oldest player?
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
I thought Mike Finley was the oldest?
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 7, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Somebody ate his Wheaties.
Actually, I think some of us prefer to pretend Finley is no longer on the team. He could still be traded, too.
Bring back Bruce!
Pounding the Rock - where young and ath-uh-letic happens.
I’m not about to start celebrating, but this is certainly encouraging. McDyess was probably the second best guy out there in free agency, and may have been the best—I mean, Wallace looked absolutely TERRIBLE towards the end of the season. It was certainly no contest as to whether Dice or Sheed was a better player on last year’s Pistons. Was Sheed so unmotivated that he totally sucked, or is he over the hill? I guess Boston will find out.
Does anyone know how McDyess matched up with Gasol and the Lakers?
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. --Andy Dufresne
Dice will probably help…but honestly, i was hoping we could get someone younger in there…..
I was hoping we could somehow get Splitter over here this year,but Ric Bucher probably doesnt know what hes talking about…
Someone correct me if im wrong, but didnt the spurs FO mention something about " A player coming over from europe"..? Hopefully it wasnt Haislip they were talking about ( No bad on the guy, I just want Tiago in the black and silver too)
Haislip, Gist…
Tiago will be here next summer, if the Spurs have truly learned their lesson from the Scola fiasco.
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
inless we can trade Bonner to Baskonia and get Splitter over here. I’d be OK with that.
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
i think someone older makes a bit of sense… if we sign a young guy off free agency, it might stunt the development of the new spurs (plus maybe tiago next year). an older guy makes sense if we dont really plan to have him long term. he can help this year (considering the “closing” of Duncan’s championship window), and can leave (or be traded or—most probably—pull a JV) when Tiago and Ian and Blair start being productive. i wouldve wanted sheed (not eactly a young un), but dice is a good consolation prize.
IF McDyess ends up signing with another team………f*ck 4 or 5, lets sign a 3!!!
Three years is a bit long, but its an upgrade
Just imagine how good this guy wouldve been had it not been for all those injuries during his Denver days
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
You just nailed reason #14 of my potentially soon-to-be-released post entitled, “Why to Hate the Denver Nuggets.”
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 7, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I was hoping that this would be a joint venture, actually. Once the season starts we need to collaborate.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 8, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
coincidentally, I stumbled upon this: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11451608969
by theonlyromeo on Jul 8, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree that it is an upgrade over Thomas. McDyess’ injured knees are better than Thomas’ fused ankles.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
well I meant historically
this guy couldve been amazing if he was healthier earlier in his career
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
mcdyess?
i guess its better than being shot in the face.
how much, i’m not sure…
free george hill!
by sleep research facility on Jul 7, 2009 11:41 PM CDT reply actions
I agree. Shot in the face would just cost to much and have you seen the contract that shot in the face wants? Way to long.
by Big50 on Jul 8, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So does Dice start?
Or does Tim play center and Pop starts the kid?
Just curious what people think.
"Give me chonchon."
by Slowpoke Rodriguez on Jul 8, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions
Dice starts or [gulp] Bonner…..
I hope to FSM I’m wrong about Bonner having a chance to start though.
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
I’m thinking either Ian or Dice starts, probably Dice(if we get him)
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
Wow...
Think about this:
Starters: Tony, Mase, RJ, Blair/Bonner/Ian, Tim
2nd Unit: IUPUI, Manu, Findog, McDyess, one of the non-starting bigs above
Can we start the season now please? That is a serious second unit from a firepower perspective. The one thing that was so frustrating in the playoffs watching the game clock and praying that the bench could score enough to let Timmy / Tony get some rest. And seeing it not happen very often.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain
I see McDyess as a starter and the Blair/Bonner/Ian triumvirate coming off the bench to spell him and TD. And I share your excitement, spurchief, as I’ve been on the McDyess bandwagon since last year when he was waived by Denver. But we’ll have to see.
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
According to a commenter (not Vangelis) on 48MoH, Express News reports McDyess has made up his mind on San Antonio unless the Pistons can match the offer or get close. Right now, the Pistons can only offer $2 million next year so they would need to trade to clear about $3-4 to make a competitive offer. I think McDyess is going to give Detroit time. The wait could be awhile.
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
But what about Commentor Vangelis????
[he was wrong about YB, by the way]
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
That sucks that he is just planning on keeping the Spurs hanging…especially for such a lame reason: to wait and see if the terrible Pistons can shoot the moon and somehow come up with the space to sign him. Very weird considering he should have no attachment to the new coach and most of his old teammates are gone. What does he love about Detroit, the cheap housing?
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
I agree, but you gotta admire the loyalty. Sounds like a Spur to me.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie
Totally.
But on the other hand, the cut-throat business side of me now really wants us to allow him to wait……. and immediately sign someone else. Nobody jerks us around or keeps us hanging. NObody.
Mwwaaahahahahaahahahaaaa.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 8, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Weren’t you the #1 advocate for getting Dice?
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
No, I do like him and think he’d be a good fit, but I was far from the #1 advocate. Even though I’m a flip-flopper as well.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 8, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
By the way, SiMA, did you end up flip-flopping on Sheed before he signed with Boston? I came dangerously close to doing so.
I wasn’t to the point of hoping we’d get him, but I’d become resigned to the fact that we might need him.
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
I came to exactly the same place. Cautiously optimistic while simultaneously leery.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 8, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Well worded.
Yesterday, I might have rec’d that comment, but today someone told me that I’ve maybe been giving them away too liberally. Now who was that?
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
by J.R. Wilco on Jul 8, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
In vintage Wilco style, I just recced your subtle mockery.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 8, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Doesn’t make any sense. So what are his real priorities then? ugh
If its a realistic chance at contending, then it should be SA or one of the other guys. But if he is still going to give Detroit time to come up with the money and then what, play grandpa to new kids?
As much as I like his game and loyalty, his decision making in free agency is infuriating.
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"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions
…take it with a grain of salt.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
…take it with a grain of salt.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
So we are signing Marcus Hairslip and Malik Hairston today(Mslip and Mston). Hairston ahead of the summer league games eh. So Gist definitely out then I suppose?
FO sure is wheeling and dealing and keeping us dreaming.
link?
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
nevermind
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 8, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
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