Spurs Become Favorites to Land McDyess
This can only be good. Nothing official yet, obviously.
Update: The Express-News is now reporting the same thing. The deal is rumored to be 3 years at the full MLE(with the 3rd year being a retirement kicker).
Update #2: PistonPost is reporting that it's a done deal. No independent verification yet.
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Tim C.
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I’m not sure how much we can trust good ol’ Yahoo, but this would be nice. What I’m wondering is why did the Spurs not try to get McDyess last year when he was traded and then cut? He would have been better than Gooden, surely.
by Big50 on Jul 7, 2009 4:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think McDyess just wanted to be back with his old team at that point. He thought they might have 1 last run in them. It is obviously over for the Pistons now and he probably wants to sign with a true contender.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
by VWolf on Jul 7, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think anybody thought that team had a run, they were struggling to make the playoffs. My point is that the Spurs didn’t go after him…at least from anything that I’ve read. That would have helped us then and maybe given us a leg up on signing him now.
by Big50 on Jul 7, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, McDyess was one person who thought they had a run left in them (at least according to what I read about it). Remember that this was in February.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
by VWolf on Jul 7, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
err actually it was way back in December…McDyess was waived by the Nuggets on November 12th and then had to wait 30 days to sign with the Pistons.
Supposedly the Spurs (among other teams) did try and convince McDyess to join them.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
by VWolf on Jul 7, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, McDyess was part of the Iverson trade.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 7, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we should go after marion, he can gives us what odom gave to the lakers, a guy that can play and guard multiple positions. Then we should sign elson for the minimum.
by spursfan87 on Jul 7, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Marion fits on the Spurs. He is going to want to take a lot of shots and he is going to take them early in the shotclock. We’d be better off spending the money on a post player.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
by VWolf on Jul 7, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, especially after already adding Jefferson.
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
by BlaseE on Jul 7, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think marion would give us a more versatile team, he can space the floor and is a good defender.
And also dont get me wrong, abourt dice, i love dice in the spurs, hes a spurs type of guy, but i dont think he is worth the full MLE though. I like his offense and his defense is decent, but he is not a shot blocker (thats why i liked rasheed more), and we need another shot blocker. Either way i think why should sign elson for the minimum.
I also like marvin williams but i think the hawks are going to match any offer
by spursfan87 on Jul 7, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spursfan........
The thought of a more athletic version of robert horry running all of those plays almost makes me wet myself….
by alamobro on Jul 7, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think marion could fill the robert horry role very well ( if the spur culture could convince him to play team ball)
by alamobro on Jul 7, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s just it… Shawn Marion isn’t a team player. Never has been, never will be.
I like McDyess, he’s a smart, team player. I’m not crazy about the 3 years, but I’ll take it in a heart beat.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie
by bellasa on Jul 7, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bellasa…..one or two years ago i would have agreed with that sentiment….but Marion has made a Guhzillion dollars . The guy has to have some sort of hunger to win a title ( maybe not) but who knows….
by alamobro on Jul 7, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he does maybe he doesn’t. But you’ve got to know that McDyess absolutely does. I think he’s had a taste of a championship and I think he wants that chance again.
In the end I think Marion will go to the team that offers him the most dough. He’s talented, but he helped the Phoenix Suns implode. I’d rather not have that potential cancer on our team.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie
by bellasa on Jul 7, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ a billion
In addition, we already have a guy with one of the Top 5 Ugliest Shots in the league (Ginger), we don’t need the perennial champion as well.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 7, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With a Top 5 Ugly Jumpshot, to boot.
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by LatinD on Jul 7, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you guys watched the same Marion all of these years? He would not mesh well with the Spurs. Though he is a good defender, he will want lots of offensive touches. He is not a grind it out half-court player, but an open-court flyer.
I don’t even know where he gets his minutes? Is he going to split time at the 3 with RJ? That’s not enough for both of them. He is not a guard and RJ really plays better at the the 3 than the 2. Having both of them means RJ will spend some time at the 2 and/or he will spend time at the 4. Either way, I don’t really like it. It’s either small-ball, or poor-ball-handler-ball.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
by VWolf on Jul 7, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine the idea is for him to play as an undersized 4 and move Timmy to the 5. I don’t like it.
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by LatinD on Jul 7, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, he’s not tall enough to match up with Gasol and Bynum, and that’s what we need.
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. --Andy Dufresne
by tomasito on Jul 8, 2009 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and old knees.
This is why I wanted a big C, like Gortat, and not another PF.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Hirschof on Jul 8, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is talking about 3 years now? I thought we were offering 2? 3 years is too much. If he is over the hill by next season we can trade his expiring contract.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
by VWolf on Jul 7, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just noticed the update above. I guess they feel they have to offer 3 years to beat out the other contenders. Too bad since 2 years would be about right for someone as old as him, but at least it isn’t a huge contract.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
by VWolf on Jul 7, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think it isnt as bad as many think… he’ll help this year, maybe do situation duty the next, and then do a JV (veteran-locker-room-presence-mentor-to-young-guys). he also reminds me of kevin willis. dunno why. we kept willis for 2 yrs and it seemed like a lifetime. we’ll see how this one ends.
by theonlyromeo on Jul 7, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the third year is partially guaranteed, which would make him very attractive trade bait/expiring contract in that third year. It would allow us to trade with a team looking to save money; the other team could send us a player with his equivalent salary, then cut him to save more cash.
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. --Andy Dufresne
by tomasito on Jul 8, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also if we sign marion we prevent that he goes to dallas and reunites with j.kidd.
by spursfan87 on Jul 7, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is strictly an uptempo player on a team with a strong passing point guard (Nash, Calderon). Why did he struggle in Miami? Dwyane Wade is their defacto point guard. Tony looks a lot more like Wade than he does Nash. He would get lost in our Tony-Tim-Manu centric offense. And then he would get pissy and Pop would have him sent to the Ukraine in a small box.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain
by spurchief on Jul 8, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget the spiders!
::shivers::
Spiders.
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 8, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great news
I prefer him to Sheed although Sheed is probably more worth the MLE. I just want players to want to be Spurs and say, “yeah, leBron, your team is competing for chips and offered the same amount of money but I like Duncan and the Spurs better.” Plus, who wants a team where TD is the oldest player?
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
by BlaseE on Jul 7, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought Mike Finley was the oldest?
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 7, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody ate his Wheaties.
Actually, I think some of us prefer to pretend Finley is no longer on the team. He could still be traded, too.
Bring back Bruce!
Pounding the Rock - where young and ath-uh-letic happens.
by Tim C. on Jul 7, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah…..well I knew I read that somewhere but it was before July 1st when he didn’t opt out.
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
by BlaseE on Jul 7, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not about to start celebrating, but this is certainly encouraging. McDyess was probably the second best guy out there in free agency, and may have been the best—I mean, Wallace looked absolutely TERRIBLE towards the end of the season. It was certainly no contest as to whether Dice or Sheed was a better player on last year’s Pistons. Was Sheed so unmotivated that he totally sucked, or is he over the hill? I guess Boston will find out.
Does anyone know how McDyess matched up with Gasol and the Lakers?
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. --Andy Dufresne
by tomasito on Jul 7, 2009 6:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
After the buzz (then anti-buzz) we all had about Sheed, I’m not going to get excited about this one until it is official also.
And the other two teams courting him are Cavs and Magic who are also contenders. (East coast contenders)
by werdnawee on Jul 7, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dyess is a good matchup for Gasol no doubt.
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by Chilai on Jul 7, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dice will probably help…but honestly, i was hoping we could get someone younger in there…..
I was hoping we could somehow get Splitter over here this year,but Ric Bucher probably doesnt know what hes talking about…
Someone correct me if im wrong, but didnt the spurs FO mention something about " A player coming over from europe"..? Hopefully it wasnt Haislip they were talking about ( No bad on the guy, I just want Tiago in the black and silver too)
by alamobro on Jul 7, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Haislip, Gist…
Tiago will be here next summer, if the Spurs have truly learned their lesson from the Scola fiasco.
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
by Tim C. on Jul 7, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
inless we can trade Bonner to Baskonia and get Splitter over here. I’d be OK with that.
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
by Tim C. on Jul 7, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah hah….if only we could do that. That would make trades very interesting and open up a lot of possibilities.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
by VWolf on Jul 7, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think someone older makes a bit of sense… if we sign a young guy off free agency, it might stunt the development of the new spurs (plus maybe tiago next year). an older guy makes sense if we dont really plan to have him long term. he can help this year (considering the “closing” of Duncan’s championship window), and can leave (or be traded or—most probably—pull a JV) when Tiago and Ian and Blair start being productive. i wouldve wanted sheed (not eactly a young un), but dice is a good consolation prize.
IF McDyess ends up signing with another team………f*ck 4 or 5, lets sign a 3!!!
by theonlyromeo on Jul 7, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Three years is a bit long, but its an upgrade
Just imagine how good this guy wouldve been had it not been for all those injuries during his Denver days
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Jul 7, 2009 9:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You just nailed reason #14 of my potentially soon-to-be-released post entitled, “Why to Hate the Denver Nuggets.”
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 7, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oooh, are you taking any suggestions?
My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri
by CapHill on Jul 7, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping that this would be a joint venture, actually. Once the season starts we need to collaborate.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 8, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
coincidentally, I stumbled upon this: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11451608969
by theonlyromeo on Jul 8, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that it is an upgrade over Thomas. McDyess’ injured knees are better than Thomas’ fused ankles.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
by VWolf on Jul 7, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well I meant historically
this guy couldve been amazing if he was healthier earlier in his career
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Jul 7, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mcdyess?
i guess its better than being shot in the face.
how much, i’m not sure…
free george hill!
by sleep research facility on Jul 7, 2009 11:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lots.
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. --Andy Dufresne
by tomasito on Jul 8, 2009 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Shot in the face would just cost to much and have you seen the contract that shot in the face wants? Way to long.
by Big50 on Jul 8, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Perfect, Big50. I love this.
rec’d
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 8, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So does Dice start?
Or does Tim play center and Pop starts the kid?
Just curious what people think.
"Give me chonchon."
by Slowpoke Rodriguez on Jul 8, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dice starts or [gulp] Bonner…..
I hope to FSM I’m wrong about Bonner having a chance to start though.
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
by BlaseE on Jul 8, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m thinking either Ian or Dice starts, probably Dice(if we get him)
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
by Tim C. on Jul 8, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think either Bonner or Dice starts. Ian probably is behind Haislip in the line to be a starter. Remember, this is Pop.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
by VWolf on Jul 8, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
Think about this:
Starters: Tony, Mase, RJ, Blair/Bonner/Ian, Tim
2nd Unit: IUPUI, Manu, Findog, McDyess, one of the non-starting bigs above
Can we start the season now please? That is a serious second unit from a firepower perspective. The one thing that was so frustrating in the playoffs watching the game clock and praying that the bench could score enough to let Timmy / Tony get some rest. And seeing it not happen very often.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain
by spurchief on Jul 8, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see McDyess as a starter and the Blair/Bonner/Ian triumvirate coming off the bench to spell him and TD. And I share your excitement, spurchief, as I’ve been on the McDyess bandwagon since last year when he was waived by Denver. But we’ll have to see.
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 8, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay I will say it now.
The wait to hear news about McDyess signing is getting excruciating!
by LionZion on Jul 8, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
According to a commenter (not Vangelis) on 48MoH, Express News reports McDyess has made up his mind on San Antonio unless the Pistons can match the offer or get close. Right now, the Pistons can only offer $2 million next year so they would need to trade to clear about $3-4 to make a competitive offer. I think McDyess is going to give Detroit time. The wait could be awhile.
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
by BlaseE on Jul 8, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what about Commentor Vangelis????
[he was wrong about YB, by the way]
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
by Tim C. on Jul 8, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vangelis (yes, I removed the title from his name) currently has no status in my eyes. He failed us all and needs to earn our trust before it is given again.
Yes, I’m still hurt. What about it?
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 8, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sucks that he is just planning on keeping the Spurs hanging…especially for such a lame reason: to wait and see if the terrible Pistons can shoot the moon and somehow come up with the space to sign him. Very weird considering he should have no attachment to the new coach and most of his old teammates are gone. What does he love about Detroit, the cheap housing?
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
by VWolf on Jul 8, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As if the rebuilding Pistons are going to clear cap space for an aging 6’9" center. Come to San, Antonio.
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
by Tim C. on Jul 8, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, but you gotta admire the loyalty. Sounds like a Spur to me.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie
by bellasa on Jul 8, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally.
But on the other hand, the cut-throat business side of me now really wants us to allow him to wait……. and immediately sign someone else. Nobody jerks us around or keeps us hanging. NObody.
Mwwaaahahahahaahahahaaaa.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 8, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weren’t you the #1 advocate for getting Dice?
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
by Tim C. on Jul 8, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I do like him and think he’d be a good fit, but I was far from the #1 advocate. Even though I’m a flip-flopper as well.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 8, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way, SiMA, did you end up flip-flopping on Sheed before he signed with Boston? I came dangerously close to doing so.
I wasn’t to the point of hoping we’d get him, but I’d become resigned to the fact that we might need him.
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 8, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I came to exactly the same place. Cautiously optimistic while simultaneously leery.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 8, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well worded.
Yesterday, I might have rec’d that comment, but today someone told me that I’ve maybe been giving them away too liberally. Now who was that?
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 8, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
In vintage Wilco style, I just recced your subtle mockery.
"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 8, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t make any sense. So what are his real priorities then? ugh
If its a realistic chance at contending, then it should be SA or one of the other guys. But if he is still going to give Detroit time to come up with the money and then what, play grandpa to new kids?
As much as I like his game and loyalty, his decision making in free agency is infuriating.
by LionZion on Jul 8, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walgreens has something for that. Check in the rub on cream section.
by Big50 on Jul 8, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol. I will just stick to binge eating ice cream.
by LionZion on Jul 8, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Found on 48moh
Report from Pistonpost.com
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Hirschof on Jul 8, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
…take it with a grain of salt.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Hirschof on Jul 8, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
…take it with a grain of salt.
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Hirschof on Jul 8, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Updated the post. Thanks for the link :-)
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
by Tim C. on Jul 8, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we are signing Marcus Hairslip and Malik Hairston today(Mslip and Mston). Hairston ahead of the summer league games eh. So Gist definitely out then I suppose?
FO sure is wheeling and dealing and keeping us dreaming.
by LionZion on Jul 8, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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