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Newflash : TP asked to come back to SA for further exams.

According to the website of "L'équipe" (the french sports daily newspaper) Tony Parker has been asked by the spurs to come back to San Antonio in order to check the ankle injury he sustained a few days ago during a game with the french national team.

Star-divide

This comes as a surprise, since the injury has been characterized as "minor" by the french medical staff, and TP was fully expected to play next week, as France is starting its round of matches to get a qualifying spot for the next  european championship.

 According to "l'Equipe", TP seemed "upset" as he was seen leaving the team to fly back to the US. The trip almost certainly means that TP won't be able to play the fist match of the qualifying campaign.

A few random thoughts and speculations on this :

1°) I'd like to know whether there are any contractual obligation for a player to renounce to a national team selection if asked by its NBA team. It has always seemed a very gray area in the otherwise very precise ( one might even say minutely detailed) world of the NBA when its comes about what a player can or cannot do. I understand that some players are getting insured in order to compensate their team in case of an injury sustained while playing for their country, but its doesn't seem to be systematic.

Almost every year some players give up playing in their national selection (often as their franchise explicit request), others do play but have to hear the more or less loud grumbling of their employers. And, of course, there are endless debates among the fans.

As more and more NBA are eligible for "country duties" its seems that the NBA should set up clear rules as the current situation appears to generate misunderstandings and even some degree of conflict, year after year.

2°) on the specific case of TP, my guess is that the Spurs Front office had more than cold feet about letting play international games this year, as they are spending quite a lot to make a serious run for the title next year. I don't think this would have happened had they decided to go into "transition mode" or to wait for the famed 2010 free agency fiesta.

3°) its also means that the Spurs believe they can't afford to lose TP to injury, which doesn"t reflect well on their depth at PG...

4°) Popovitch and Buford will better have to handle TP with care when he gets back as he really wants to play for "les bleus" and this kind of last minute "recall" will surely annoy him. My guess is that they will.

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Fine post. Thanks for joining and thanks for the info. As for your questions/points:

1) I’m not sure. I don’t know if a team can prohibit a player from playing for their team. It does seem like a gray area.

2) The Spurs front office would always prefer that their guys not play. However, they have had enough international players to know that many of those guys REALLY want to play.

3) I don’t think it reflects on their depth. I think it reflects on the fact that he is an all-star point guard. You can’t win in the NBA without your best players.

4) My guess is that they will handle him fine. I think they are probably pretty familiar with his personality after 7 years.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 30, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Interesting. Unless they saw something that made them think twice about letting him continue playing(I’m sure Spurs scouts are there watching De Colo anyway), I don’t think the Spurs would have done this. Cross your fingers, folks.

I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!

by Tim C. on Jul 30, 2009 8:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is precautionary. He had a minor ankle sprain but also thigh injury. Tony would had to play heavy minutes and he would have to carry the team, its is very diferent from the guys at team usa, for them is like an all star game.

we don’t want to see this again

by spursfan87 on Jul 30, 2009 9:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can’t decide what pains me to watch more, this picture above or ATS’s ankle picture.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 30, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're in Luck!

 i’ll help you.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, definitely Manu’s picture.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 30, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man, this site’s gonna be hurting if everybody starts posting that ankle pic at their whim.

It was bad enough when ATS was the only one terrorizing us with it.

Et tu, TLO?

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 30, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel like the Manu picture is so much more painful to watch. That’s our love going through pain right there JRW. Every spurs fans dreams and aspirations were crushed at that moment. Things only got worse as the season developed. The ankle pic is probably from some old man who had a bad day. The manu pic is from our man crush that went on to have a bad year because of it.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 30, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stop it. You’re going to send me into another tailspin.

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 30, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just look at the Manu’s pic and think to yourself, even though he looks in pain, that’s not even the worse part. He’s still so naive, so innocent. He does not know that he’ll miss most of the year and would have to shut it down for the playoffs. To this day he’s still recovering from something that was aggravated a year ago. This is the most competitive man on the planet we’re talking about! This is your Manu.

How is the ankle picture worse than that.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 30, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m about to cry, I’m starting to feel guilty for putting that picture : (
            

by spursfan87 on Jul 30, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 30, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ PtR head count

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 30, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I absolutely love that pic. That look of pure nastiness on Manu’s face is enough to give me chills.

I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!

by Tim C. on Jul 30, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also note the way Hornet-boy is already closing his eyes and bowing his head, as though the fact that he couldn’t block Manu’s shot has made him want to weep.

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 31, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he’s also bracing for that elbow to the head he’s about to receive.

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 31, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and there’s still not even a mention of the ball hitting him! Truly Amazine pic.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 31, 2009 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JRW, where do you live? I know that Rikiddo lives in Phoenix, LatinD lives in the Non-US, but I don’t know where you live. It will help me explain why you’re around at this hour. I’m guessing you don’t live in the east coast like me.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I live just down the street from ATS in Austin, TX. Not literally “just down the street” but close enough.

And as to why I’m up at this hour, newborn infants in the home and PtR both lend themselves to being awake in the wee hours.

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 31, 2009 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

great, I will make it one of my life long steps to meet you one day. you will see. I may be 20 years down the road, or more, but I will meet you. I never take anything I say back. I also plan to meet Rikiddo and LatinD of course. This is most obviously the two forties that I downed throughout the night, but still, I don’t take things back. Congrats on the new-born infants! I have younglings running around my house (8 year old half chinese-sister and 4 year old half chinese-brother) and they bring light to the house no matter how you’re feeling (i’m usually on the wrong side). anyways… great JRW… thanks for everything.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tlo are you drunk?

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 31, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what gave it away?

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 31, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re not the only one who does that particular trick

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 31, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, I was about to see that movie two days ago, but read that it wasn’t as good. I then settled on ratatouille

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 31, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The rat rocks.

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 31, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s worth watching

by Big50 on Jul 31, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What movie is it? I’m loving him in HIMYM.

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by LatinD on Jul 31, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe it’s called “i love you, man”

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 31, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s still so wrong.

Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on Jul 30, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought we had banned this picture. I’ve already seen it WAAAAAAAY too many times this month!

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Jul 30, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please ban that pic of Manu first.

by BlaseE on Jul 30, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 30, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

shit, this made me moan out loud. and not in a good way.

by theonlyromeo on Jul 30, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parker rentre à San Antonio
Info L’Equipe : Tony Parker rentre aux Etats-Unis. En effet, après avoir pris connaissance des examens médicaux passés par le meneur français, le staff des San Antonio Spurs lui a demandé de revenir au club.

Sa participation en doute pour Italie-France

Les dirigeants de San Antonio veulent donc que Parker rentrer au Texas afin de "subir des examens complémentaires", alors que, toujours d’après le communiqué de la FFBB, "les soins prodigués en équipe de France devaient permettre un retour rapide du joueur à la compétition". En effet, le meneur français "marche normalement" et avait recommencé à courir. Ce voyage aux Etats-Unis laisse planer de sérieux doutes sur la participation de “TP” au match de repêchage contre l’Italie, le 5 août à Cagliari. Le staff des Bleus "ne sait pas s’il sera de retour pour (ce match) et pour les matches qui suivent".

Parker : "Je ne comprends sincèrement pas cette décision"

Le forfait du joueur n’est donc pas certain, mais, même si les Spurs laissaient Parker repartir vers l’Europe un jour après son retour à San Antonio, cela ne constituerait pas une préparation idéale avant un match d’une telle importance, avec 22h d’avions dans les jambes et trois jours sans entraînement. Les rares personnes qui ont pu croiser “TP” à sa sortie du stade de Coubertin, l’ont vu très contrarié. Le joueur n’a pu s’exprimer que par le biais du communiqué de la Fédération : "Je ne comprends sincèrement pas cette décision, après tous les test effectués en commun" entre l’équipe de France et les Spurs. "Je regrette ce qui se passe. Je suis obligé de suivre les injonctions de mon club, poursuit Parker. J’espère revenir au plus vite pour disputer les matches de qualification".

Parker s’envole vendredi matin en direction de San Antonio, en compagnie de l’osthéopate des Bleus, dépêché par le staff tricolore afin de "continuer les soins entamés" et de "permettre le retour" du joueur. Affaire à suivre.

Using Yahoo Babel Fish Text Translation (it really sucks):

The leaders of San Antonio thus want that Parker to return to Texas in order to "undergo complementary examinations", whereas, always d’ after the official statement of the BFR, "the care lavished in team of France was to allow a rapid return of the player with the competition". Indeed, the French leader "walks normally" and had started again to run. This voyage to the United States lets plane serious doubts about the participation of " TP" with the match of fishing out against l’ Italy, on August 5 with Cagliari. The staff of Blue "does not know s’ it will be of return for (this match) and the matches which follow".

Parker: "I do not include/understand sincerely this decision"

The fixed price of the player n’ is thus not certain, but, even if Spurs let Parker set out again towards l’ Europe one day after its return to San Antonio, that would not constitute an ideal preparation before a match d’ such an importance, with 22:00 d’ planes in the legs and three days without drive. The rare people who could cross " TP" at its exit of the stage of Coubertin, l’ saw very opposed. The player n’ s’ could; to express that by the means of the official statement of the Federation: "I do not include/understand sincerely this decision, after all the test jointly carried out" between l’ equip with France and Spurs. "I regret what occurs. I am obliged to follow the injunctions of my club, continues Parker. J’ hope to return as fast as possible to dispute the matches qualification

Parker s’ fly away Friday morning in direction of San Antonio, company of l’ osthéopate of Blue, dispatched by tricolour staff in order to "continue the started care" and "to allow the return" of the player. Business to be followed.

by spursfan87 on Jul 30, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

RC and Pop are just trying to get more minutes for Nando so he is ready to come over next year.

by BlaseE on Jul 30, 2009 9:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

those geniuses!

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 30, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Recycled humor

Just like Tony wants to get back on the court so he can play with him.

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 30, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m going with this explanation.

Re-sign Bruce Bowen!

by Tim C. on Aug 1, 2009 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crossing my fingers.

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by LatinD on Jul 30, 2009 9:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yikes. I hope this is quickly resolved with a minimum of hurt feelings and hurt ankles.

by Lauri on Jul 30, 2009 10:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a proactive defensive tactice by the spurs….

" We want to fly you back to the states to SEE FOR OURSELVES if your ankle is really only merely sprained ( and if you happen to miss a game or two, then tough SH%T,Mr. Ten Million dollar poing guard man.) "

Me likes this.

by alamobro on Jul 31, 2009 7:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

New Submissions: "tactice" and "poing guard"

Just one of those might have flown under the radar — but a single post with BOTH of those is going to get called out, alamobro. There’s just no getting around it.

Also, I think you’ve just given Tony a new nickname

Mr. Ten Million Dollar Poing Guard Man

And I’m guessing that the other will get a good about of play too, when talking about a tactic that doesn’t work; let’s try it out now.

“I can’t believe that they tried to double Timmy in the 2nd half. With the shooters we have now, that kind of defensive tactice just isn’t going to work.”

I like it.

The lexicon expands with good work like this. Thank you, alamobro, for your submissions.

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 31, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Iverson: Tactice? We talkin about Tactice?

BLAIR FORCE ONE

by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 31, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

“not a gaim, not gaim, not a gaim, we’re in here talkin ’bout tactice.”

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 31, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn, beat me to it again.

I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!

by Tim C. on Jul 31, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

heres to hoping a spellcheck program is added to ptr

by alamobro on Jul 31, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just use Firefox. It has a built in spellcheck.

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by LatinD on Jul 31, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was kidding. Im a fairly decent speller, with clumsy fingers….

by alamobro on Jul 31, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If everybody was overly careful about what they posted, then we wouldn’t have any of these fun terms to use.

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 31, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's kind of funny

I’ve often heard complaints by owners/organisations when their star players want to play for their country. Their national team then has to pay some 100k for the injury police.

Yet i’ve never ever heard anything of that kind when the country they want to play for is the USA.

Let’s see what happens when LeBron blows out his knee in London…

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"Fucking right i'm preachin' it!" Carlisle replied.

"Rough life, isn't it. It's tough all over, isn't it." Smith chuckled.

by DOH on Jul 31, 2009 2:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

according to Spurstalk, Tony and Holt had a very unfriendly conversation in SA and Parker’s pretty pissed. He feels like the Spurs have disrespected French medicine and that even though their doctors sent the Spurs 300 MRIs and X-Rays, and even though he saw a doctor in France that was approved/rec’d by the Spurs, they still wanted him to fly back to SA.

I think Tony’s going to wind up resenting our FO and Manu after this…

Give a man a chicken and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to chicken and he'll call you crazy and question your command of the English language.

by Aaronstampler on Jul 31, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why Manu? Because of his injury last year?

I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!

by Tim C. on Jul 31, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Manu? That’d be petty.

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by LatinD on Jul 31, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol…..disrespected french medicine.

Tony needs to get over it.

Getting angry with manu, however, would be irrational.

You cant question that what the FO did was effective though. Looks like hell miss at least one game…

by alamobro on Jul 31, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah. Tony will think that because of what happened with Manu, they’re going to be way too overprotective of him and not give France a chance to qualify for the olympics.

Give a man a chicken and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to chicken and he'll call you crazy and question your command of the English language.

by Aaronstampler on Jul 31, 2009 5:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It will be better for Parker though if the spurs montier him. Altough Tony is still a young player and will recover faster than Manu did. Also it not as seroius and we have Manu,Roger,Hill who could play the point just incase something does happen to him.

GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)

by Manu-20 on Jul 31, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When was the last time that Manu played for a sustained period of time

for the last two years he has been pretty useless, because of his absences.

by biolb on Jul 31, 2009 6:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He got injured 1 year and a couple of months ago, during the 2007-08 playoffs, didn’t he?

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by LatinD on Jul 31, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

::grabs popcorn and waits for bella::

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Jul 31, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

::pulls up a chair next to CapHill and smalltalks while waiting for the show to begin::

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 31, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

::sees that there are no more chairs, sits indian style on the floor between them both and mettles into their small talk::

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 31, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

::starts singing karaoke::

Hey, where’d everybody go?

Re-sign Bruce Bowen!

by Tim C. on Jul 31, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently, sometimes the show must NOT go on.

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Aug 1, 2009 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bummer… I’m late to the party. What is that? Dirt? Sand? Dry husks of remains?

Oh, ohhh… Sorry, my bad.

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