Spurs 2010 championship team?
by Manu-20 on Jul 22, 2009 4:26 AM CDT
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The Spurs have probably done some of the most drastic offseason moves in recent memory for many spurs fans. All this could pay off with a 5th NBA championship to our beloved city.The spurs were starting to look old and done as contenders. Then all of sudden Pop and the FO pulled a rabbit out of a hat retooling our team to be back to major championship contenders. I still felt we were contenders as long as the big three were healthy but with the new additions to our team is more athletic and young. Already our team is much better than last season and hopefully this team can bring us a 5th championship.
The Offseason Moves:
A lot of spurs fans probably couldn't predict what a great offseason we would have. I personally think we had the best offseason in the entire league. Most of the guys we brought in make our team much more athletic than it was in recent years. Here are some of the offseason moves.
Richard Jefferson-This move probably took many of us by surprise. It was sad to see Bowen go but I was happy to see Oberto go - I always felt we could pick up someone better than him. Richard Jefferson isn't that bad of a defensive player and he can score which is something the Spurs needed more of.
Marcus Haislip-He was a draft bust and never proved to be a quality player in this league. Mainly due to the coaching staff plus that the Bucks and Pacers may have given up on him to soon. He proved to be a good player overseas and was ranked #3 overseas free agent available by draft express. I feel he may have a chance to be a rotation player for the spurs if he can show that he can now play in this league.
Dejuan Blair-This guy was a gift from god, basically. He fell to us from a lottery pick to a second round draft pick. Most teams were concerned about him because of his knee, although I have a feeling they will be regretting their decision after this season. He is most likely going to be in the rotation and proved he can get rebounds against taller players in the summer league.
Antonio McDyess-McDyess is probably the best thing we can get Duncan. He can get rebound and is a good defender. He also has a very good midrange jumper something that many of our past big man beside Duncan have really had. He is going to be a great addition to the spurs and always brings his heart and he hustle a lot to.
SPURS 2010 Starting Lineup:
While I can't predict what the spurs rotation for next season is going to be, I can try to guess. I'm not quite sure what position Haislip is. I heard he is like a SF kinda, if you have more information on him tell me. I put Manu Coming off the bench which is what I fell would be best for Spurs.
Starter:
SG:Roger Mason
PG:Tony Parker
Bench:
PF:Dejuan Blair/ Marcus Haislip
SF:Michel Finley/ Malik Hairston
PG:George Hill/ Marcus Willams
Spurs 2010 team overall analysis:
This team is much more athletic and younger, as I said earlier. It probably is the most talented too. I believe this team can be the best defensive team in the league this upcoming season too. Last year we failed to be a great defensive team because of team 2nd chance points they were getting because of our rebounding problem. A big reason to that probably was because Matt Bonner was our starting Center. I really hope Ian turns out to be a legit Center and a good defensive one who doesn't foul as much who can replace Bonner. Overall with all these new guys coming in to help Duncan with rebounding I don't think it will be much off a problem for the spurs. As long as our team stay healthy we can win a 5th championship.
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Spelling errors have been fixed(FYI: you can save FanPosts as a draft if you don’t have time to proofread right away, then come back and fix it later before you publish it), and I made the image alignment pretty for those of us who use the “wide” view.
Now that’s out of the way, I like your take and wanted to add my bit to it:
- Haislip has been mentioned as a possible SF around here recently. His foot speed wasn’t exactly a problem in Europe, since it caused some downright nasty mismatches at the 4, but I have serious doubts about his ability to keep up with NBA 3’s. If he can make that leap, maybe he’s a poor man’s Lamar Odom. I like that idea, but need to see him in action in some real NBA games before I get my hopes up.
- I like your emphasis on defense at the end of this. Having Findog and Red Rocket as starters absolutely killed us on that end of the floor last season. Now with more speed, athleticism(Jefferson) and size(No, Dice isn’t taller than Bonner, but he’s bigger and knows what he’s doing on the defensive end), the pieces seem to be there for a rennaisance on that end of the floor. And that is going to be the biggest key to this team’s fortunes. This team has plenty of scoring options, but can they take enough away from their opponents? If the Spurs get Pop’s favorite stat, opponent FG%, to drop into the low 40’s the way they used to, they are going to be nearly impossible to beat.
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I don’t think they will throw Haislip at the faster 3s out there (the ones who are really swingmen) but he should be able to handle defending against a traditional small forward from time to time.
He is supposed to be very quick and athletic so I am not as concerned with his ability to defend as much as his desire to defend. Can he buy into the Spurs defense-first philosophy? If so he could end up with a lot of minutes. If he is just a one dimensional face-up and jumpshot scorer, then his role will likely be severely diminished. Though as I typed that I thought of Finley, who played the 2 and the 3 and was very often burned by his man on D (either by being outquicked or overpowered) yet still played plenty of minutes.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
If Ian can learn not to foul as much I think he can be a good defensive player for us. When I was watching him in the summer league he wanted to play defensive. He would always try to block shots which would get him into some foul trouble. If Tim Duncan and Dice can teach him how to not foul as much I think he could be a good defensive player to guard high scoring big man in the league.
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
I was just about to compliment Manu20 on his typo-free post… :)
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Good post, but the grammar in your first sentence made me cringe.
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by sw12 on Jul 22, 2009 12:33 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Dice?Thomas
Agree with your thoughts. I have some concern with how Pop used Thomas last year. I always thought that a big strength of his was his mid-range jumper (it sure as hell was deadly against us). Yet, Pop seemed to seldom work plays to open that shot up for him, which I thought, would have opened things up for others, especially Timmy. Dice seems to have almost the same kind of game and that same jumper. Hope Pop uses him better offensively than he did Kurt.
I also think McDyess has a quicker release.
However, Kurt lead the NCAA in scoring and rebounding. Pre-ankle injury he had a nice jumper.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
I see Haislip more like an specialst. I think that’s the reason the Spurs brought him here, to defend the likes of Odom, Dirk, etc….. Against more traditional bigs, I think he will not have much of a role. And that’s the beauty of it, we now have 2 excellent veteran players who will command most of the minutes (timmy and dice) and then we have 4 very different bigs we can use to adjust to the other team (Bonner, Ian, Hasilip, Blair). We have the big atlhetic center with finesse offensive game, the 3 point specialist big, the burly rebounding POWER forward and the agile and mobile 4 who can run the court. Me likes.
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Neither does the rest of the league. I’d like to see how Ariza does when trying to defend Kobe. Ariza is long and quick, Kobe would probably post him up though, but it would still be interesting to see. Anyways, Pop is hoping that RJ could become that defensive stopper that will try to contain Kobe… it’s not one of the things i’m looking forward to next season i’ll tell you that. We’re not going to get a guy like Bowen was during his prime probably ever again (yet another reason why Bowen’s Jersey will be put up later on). Our future rests in RJ being a defensive stopper, among other things.
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 22, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Richard Jefferson is actully a pretty good deffnder. One of the better deffender in the league. He probably be better deffensively in San Antonio than he has been his entire career.
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
I guess I didn’t notice before. Probably because I didn’t watch too much of him, since the Bucks aren’t a good team for national tv, and the Nets weren’t a good team for the past few years either. I wasn’t too into basketball when the Nets were relevant and made the post season, so maybe that’s when he played good D. hopefully Pop flips the switch back on him and makes him focus on D and rebounding, because I read here that he hasn’t been focusing that much on those lately.
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 22, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe this time, he can try to get the ball in Artest’s hands and keep it there.
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we don’t have a defender for Kobe, but the Lakers don’t have a defender for Parker. If they move Kobe on to Parker, then Manu will come in and torch the Lakers defense. Either way, the Lakers can’t stop two superstars without Ariza around.
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True! I also think Jeff is a good defender, but if we put him on Kobe…Ron will “Bonzi Wells” all day.
RJ is going to be a very good deffensive player for us. When he was In New Jersy he was a great deffender. Reason’s why he was’nt the main scoring option for them and could focus more on deffensive. When he went to the Bucks he foucsed more offensively. He probably going to be our deffensive stopper. There are no Kobe stopper but RJ has been able to slow down Kobe some times if you watch him.
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
Yeah, RJ held LeBron to only 16 points.
Unfortunately that was during a two-minute stretch.
by doggydogworld on Jul 23, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Good post, Manu20. It’s like offseason 101.
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The Spurs just signed Theo Ratliff so that gives us a legitimate center and another shotblocking presence off the bench ala Kevin Willis. Great offseason moves for the Spurs. Can’t wait for ring #5 come June 2010.
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It going to be a great season. If the sprus win the title then I really think people should respect them as a dyansty. People make the excuse that they havent won back to back. Were does it say you have to win back to back to be a dyansty. The sprus are the most dominate team over the decade and could of easiley won more titles if it werent for luck and injuries.
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
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Just once and I can hold back, twice is much harder to ignore. But I was almost able to overlook it. I had even closed the browser and everything. Then I thought, “But it’s the name of the team. Where do you draw the line?” So, I’m giving in. Here goes.
If we’re going to start calling them
the sprus
Perhaps we should see if the city will change it’s name to Sna Atnonio. It’s got a nice ring to it and is fun to say. Try it out.
It’s “SNAH At-NON-ee-OH.” It goes delightfully with “The Sprus.”
5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)
Hey, don’t criticize unless you know where it’s coming from. Maybe he’s a radiologist.
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I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
man I keep missing up. I will not miss up on the spurs name again.
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
I do like the possibilities here with the pre-season moves. I like Blair Force One pick up for Timmy’s back up, Hill is coming along. Everyone is being very positive so I would like to be negative only for the sake of adding a touch of reality to the situation.
1. We are still an old team. Timmy, Manu, Dice, Findog.
Leads to the question, will Timmy and Manu hold up during the season?
2. The Spurs of old were known as a lock down defensive team, the past two seasons have seen that ability diminish.
3. The Spurs are still known to give up big leads and go through the dreaded “3rd Quarter Drought”
4. Bench players have seemingly improved over last year but there are doubts until we see some play
5. Pop – I love Pop, honestly. I knew it when he took over as Coach way back in the day, even though my grandparents had doubts, I just knew. So to doubt the Man and the Master after all these years seems, unthankful. With that being said, I have serious doubts for the Overall strategy being, pass in, kick out for the three. It failed horribly toward the end of the season and the playoffs. One way to help insure another strong run at the Championship would be to establish a strong inside game first. The three ball should be option number, well, three. First play the bigs, if the shot is not there, then the drive with the guards, if not, then the three ball. Teams must respect our inside game first!
- I would like to add that it is great to have such a thriving and lively community of Spurs Fans here!
"It's the ten-thousandth and one hammer blow that makes the team"
good points AG, here's my replies...
1. We were never old. We’re experienced. All those bigs and Mason/Hill should see mins if Popp is going to rest Tim and Manu.
2. True we’ve lost Bowen, but we’ve gained RJ and Dice and Ratliff. Not All-nba defenders, but better than your average defender. Popp will get them acclimated to the team defensive system.
3. They’ve got another scorer in RJ and hopefully Hill can get busy, and Dice/BFO get some Oreb putbacks. Back to RJ, his ability to get to the line should help to minimize any droughts.
4. Manu is back, Hill had a very good summer league and Ratliff can clog the paint. Malik, Ian, BFO still have to prove themselves at the NBA level.
5. Pop should continue to Pound the Rock inside. It all starts with Timmay. Tony stepped up big time for us last year in the reg season,again, Manu is back, Mason is going to be more comfortable, RJ has a very good offensive game, moves well without the ball, can get to the rim/line, Dice has a decent jumper, Hill can’t wait to be unleashed and the BFO want to make every team pay for passing up on him.
I like our chances.
BLAIR FORCE ONE
by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 26, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Alright FreshmakerDTM.....
1. We are old and experienced (come on man, 31+ is getting “older” in the NBA
2. We lost Bowen, but we lost him anyways because he was not getting prime playing time anyways
3. Yes, RJ is a hope for the dreaded 3rd Quarter Draught
4. Manu is back, and please, please let Manu be Manu, but if not….who fills those shoes?
5. Pop will hopefully go back to the big man strategy, and it appears with the off season approach he will
I like our chances as well but two teams give me pause: the Fakers and the Blazers
"It's the ten-thousandth and one hammer blow that makes the team"
by Joe deLarios on Jul 28, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
AG, I’m with you on the LA pause, but I gotta say that when I think about a possible 7 gamer with Portland, I’m still feeling kinda “cute-and-cuddly” about them and it’s hard to muster up the requisite fear.
My guess is that should the chance arise, I’ll be able to get there — it’s just that I’m not there yet.
5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)
1. I was being sarcastic with the experienced thing. You know, if we lose we’re old, if we win, we’re experienced.
2. Team Defense was mentioned here as one of the keys to 5 in *’*10
3. Glad we agree
4. there is no “but if not”… but if I had to answer, not one person can fill obi-wan’s shoes, it would take a collective team effort and hopefully this year we got the right pieces to step up.
5. pound the rock inside, let timmay make the play based on how he’s defended, kick the ball out of the double, swing it to the open shooters/slashers. play like one unit on both ends of the floor.
Lakers are the champs, they give everyone a pause. The Blazers are solid, no doubt, but i still think they are more of a playoff team than a championship contender.
BLAIR FORCE ONE
by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 29, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Although some of the spurs moves were definitely older veteran guys(Dice, and Theo) , these guys will provide an anchor until guys like Ian, Blair, and Haislip get more experience. Considering how abysmal the playoff run was this year may, I am more excited for during the off season basketball than i have been in a long time. The front office did a masterful job.
by Ohio Spurs Fan on Jul 26, 2009 11:32 PM CDT reply actions
Spurs are better but.......
No way this current roster mix of inexperience and age wins a Championship this year. The Lakers own this franchise the last 2 years and R.J. is a marginal defensive player at best. Yes the 3 headed monster of Duncan/TP/GI-NOOOO-BLI!! are still a force to be reckoned with, but Ginobili will spend time on the IR guaranteed and Parker cannot carry this team himself if forced to do it in the brutal, tough WC 2010 playoffs. Tim is 33 and in decline and maybe able to take Pau out easily, but over a best of 7 games series he is going to be worn down by the combonation of Gasol, Odom and Bynum. Count on it.
No way this current roster … wins a Championship
Ginobili will spend time on the IR guaranteed
Tim is 33 and in decline and … he is going to be worn down … Count on it
I wish I could be as confident about the things I believe, as you seem to be about these statements. Then again, maybe you have access to information that the rest of us don’t. Maybe you have a crystal ball that reveals the future to you so that you’re able to forecast these kinds of events with 100% certainty. Maybe I should be coming to you for advice about financial planning. Or maybe this is just a sports conversation and I’m taking your enthusiasm to be overconfidence and unprovable assumptions.
If it’s all the same to you, I think I’ll continue to support my team instead of following your advice to “count on” their demise.
5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)
Per your reply jollyrogerwilco:
Calmite sir. I didn’t advise giving up on your beloved Silver and Black anymore than I would ever give up on my beloved Purple and Gold. I did enjoy very much the nice dose of sarcasm in your reply. Very humorous and I appreciate sarcastic humor always sir. I did not mean to infer I had crystal ball like powers, lol. I simply wrote an opinion which I think, all teams being healthy come April of 2010 will prove to be accurate. I am not a “hater” type posting guy. I respect the Spurs franchise greatly, from roster, coaches, general mgr, etc…. If it wasn’t for the Spurs and L.A. the NBA would have been such a bore the last 10 years as these 2 great franchises/ teams account for nearly ALL of the championships.
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