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My Team Is Better Than Yours: Sacramento Kings Edition


Well, my idea is basically to do a '09-'10 game preview for each team in the NBA starting with last season's worst team and finishing with Cleveland (I'm going by records here).  Some sites may be doing previews on teams or divisions but who is doing what we care about, how they match up against the Spurs?  So let's get started with the Kings....

Star-divide

1. FSN Season Stats Head to Head: As expected, we dominate them in almost every stat.  They score more and they had more offensive rebounds.  I don't even think it is worth it to look into the offensive rebounds being a factor of pace and shooting percentage.  It just doesn't really matter in this head to head.  I could go through and give you the fine details of the head to head but when you give up 109 pts a game, most other stats don't really matter.

2. Game Recaps (Note: Both away games were first games of back to backs and we averaged a 2.5 margin of victory and had at least two of the big 3 not play in both games. See below.)

* Sun, Nov 16 @ Sacramento We win 90-88. "Finley scores 21, Duncan 20 as Spurs win second in row"

Manu and Tony didn't play.  Finley stepped up and had his first game of the season over 20 points.  Duncan was himself with 20 pts, 10 rebs, 3 blks and 4 asts.  Hill had an off night but the JV came in with 10 pts and 6 asts in 23 minutes.  The Kings were without Kevin Martin, but the real story of this game was our draft pick not named Beno Udrih, John Salmons, going 10 of 13 for 31 points on us, 1 point shy of his career high.

Tim Duncan Drive + Bank Shot Game Winner!! Spurs Vs Kings! (via Cowboys420)

The game was a real nail biter though: "Duncan, who also had 10 rebounds and three blocks, had a chance to seal the victory, but missed two free throws with 2.3 seconds left. That gave Douby a chance to win the game, but his airball on a 3-point attempt ended the game."

 

* Mon, Dec 22 Sacramento  We win 101-85. "Parker's early turnovers not a factor as Spurs hand Kings another loss"

We have our full roster and they are down Kevin Martin and Quincy Douby.  Not one player on our team scored over 20 and we shot 52.1% while they shot 39.7%.  Salmons lead them again with 7 of 13 for 22 points.  Other than our team effort, the real Spurs storyline of this game was that Pop let the team coach themselves.

"I did nothing to earn my money," Popovich said. "They [the players] coached. They communicated. They changed defenses, called plays. I just substituted players."

* Sun, Apr 12 @ Sacramento We win 95-92. "Finley's 3-pointer with 1.3 remaining brings controversy, Spurs win"

Duncan and Manu sat for this one but we had Gooden at this point.  Kevin Martin was out and this was post trade deadline so they had Nocioni and Salmons and Miller were gone.  Mason and Parker held down the offense with 47 of our 95 points.  Gooden and Ime were solid off of the bench.  The stats are pretty much even.  Spencer Hawes lead them with 24 points.  Beno was horrendous on 1 of 12 shooting for 2 points.  Not one free throw attempt and only one 3 point attempt.  He missed 10 shots inside the arc and didn't get fouled once.  Great D, Spurs.

 

SPURS vs KINGS 04 12 2009 (via rolandoperon)

But as the headline for the game say, the real memory of this game is the absolutely pathetic refereeing which counted Finley's shot clock violating 3 to win the game.  I remember Graydon or Tim on 48 Minutes of Hell saying they didn't care about the shot clock miscue because we would have won in overtime.  That's good enough for me.

3.  Kings Roster Changes:  They had one direct draft pick and got Tyreke Evans at #4.  Through trades they also selected the player the Spurs have been scouting forever, Omri Casspi, and Jon Brockman.

Kings Pre-Draft Workout: Tyreke Evans 6/9/09 (via kingsflix)

They also brought in Sergio Rodriguez from the Blazers on a trade and signed Sean May in free agency.  They officially haven't lost anyone yet but have not signed Calvin Booth, Ike Diogu, Bobby Jackson, Rashad McCants, or Cedric Simmons yet.

4.  The Match-Up

Starters

PG: Tony Parker versus Tyreke Evans: Advantage Spurs
SG: Roger Mason versus Kevin Martin: Advantage Kings
SF: Richard Jefferson versus Fransisco Garcia: Advantage Spurs
PF: Antonio McDyess versus Jason Thompson: Advantage Spurs
C: Tim Duncan versus Spencer Hawes: Advantage Spurs

Bench: Manu, Hill, Blair, Mahinmi, Finley, Bonner, Haislip and Hairston DESTROY Nocioni, Sergio Rodriguez, Omri Casspi, Donte Greene, and Sean May even without Hill, Blair, Mahinmi, Finley, Bonner, Haislip, and Hairston.

Coaching: Advantage Spurs.

Result:  I started with an easy one.  Spurs will absolutely feast on the Kings this season.  They have some young players I like and Nocioni is a good player who fell into the trap of getting a big salary.  Now he is worth more as a trading token than he is on the court to most teams which is pretty sad.  Anyways, the Spurs are too loaded to be slowed down by Sacramento's developing talent.  Salmons, who was consistent against us last season, is gone.

 

So that wraps up my trial head to head recap and match-up preview.  We'll see if I have the follow through to do more.

Poll
What is the top Spurs-Kings match-up story line for '09'10?
Why did Summer League have to end? I just want to see Blair, Hill, Evans, and Casspi play.
34 votes
Backcourt showdown: Parker and Manu versus Evans and Martin
73 votes
Argentine showdown: Manu vs Nocioni
52 votes
Beno was always my favorite Spur. Why did Pop have to let him go?
18 votes
How long before we get to see our bench play for the rest of the game? We're integrating players here.
162 votes
Let's just hope both teams are healthy. It sucked last season that we didn't play Kevin Martin once and our stars all sat at least one game against the Kings.
49 votes

388 votes | Poll has closed

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I love this idea – very ambitious, but there’s tons of time between now and the regular season.

I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!

by Tim C. on Jul 22, 2009 1:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Look forward to the other teams!!

by xman130 on Jul 22, 2009 2:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was already working on a preview for the sprus next season. Altough I think mine is going to be differnt if all your preview for teams are going to be like this one.

GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)

by Manu-20 on Jul 22, 2009 2:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One reason I started at the bottom is that I didn’t have to say much. I think in general they will follow this format. The only thing I may add is that when you get to teams where there is an argument about a player match up, I may comment on it. I’m also hoping those types of arguments come up in the comments section. I’m not that concerned with being complete, but just starting a discussion.

by BlaseE on Jul 22, 2009 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GREAT IDEA! I love this kind of song…

"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"

by Chilai on Jul 22, 2009 2:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well – if jon brockman makes the kings roster, they will be the best team in the history of the NBA.

by bones on Jul 22, 2009 8:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

looking forward to the backcourt matchup

I’m interested to see how good Evans will be and Martin is a very talented SG. I don’t expect Manu to play much, if at all, in these games since it’s the Kings. So to me it’s more of Parker vs. Evans, Mason vs. Martin. In which case you have a major advantage Spurs, and a major advantage Kings. Though the kings frontcourt will be dominated, the backcourt mathcup will be very interesting.

Randy Blythe, Singer of Lamb of God- "Words can be broken, so can bones....." Omerta by Lamb of God

by KA1Z3R on Jul 22, 2009 9:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

GOL
backcourt mathcup

I’m not even going to try anymore.

Randy Blythe, Singer of Lamb of God- "Words can be broken, so can bones....." Omerta by Lamb of God

by KA1Z3R on Jul 22, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mathcup?

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Hirschof on Jul 22, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

DEFINITELY GOL’ed at this

by joe20 on Jul 22, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooooh. I’ve gotta get one of those for work.

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Jul 22, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Evans has a chance to be a really good player, especially on the offensive side of the ball. If he plays point, he’s going to score a lot, especially against smaller players like Parker, Paul, etc. I saw him play at Memphis a few games and he’s a scorer, no doubt about that.

by xman130 on Jul 22, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kinda think that the king’s backcourt, with Evans and Martin (both being scorers) is kinda similar to GSW’s future backcourt, only taller and better. Martin is more of a shooter (Curry) while Evans is more of a slasher (Ellis). I still don’t know if it will work out for both teams, but at first glance, it makes sense.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 22, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow!

Excellent as usuale Blase! Now that’s a post and a poll!

Hi, my name is Ed, and I despise the Lakers.

by Ed (dfjmed) on Jul 22, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

87 votes and counting…..

I think we are at lurker critical mass. The site was absolutely dead for the last 2-3 days.

by BlaseE on Jul 22, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Love these previews, keep it up.

by beachwood on Jul 22, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Next are the Wizards and Clippers and both of those teams are much more interesting than the Kings. I’ll try to do Wizards tonight if I have time.

by BlaseE on Jul 22, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff.

I am a huge kings fan and just happened to come across this. I really like the idea of going with your Spurs verses every team in the league. I absolutely cannot stand the Spurs for so many reasons (none of which being they are very good) but I love the addition of Jefferson for this team. He adds excitement that non Spurs fans will love. He will make them somewhat enjoyable to watch. Hope the Spurs have a great year. My young Kings are still 2-3 years away :)

by Victor2 on Jul 22, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

From not being the first team that BlaseE will do a match-up against every summer? Yeah, probably.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 22, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure. Thats about how far away half the Spurs are from dying lol. Nothing I wrote was bad. You can be dumb all you want lol

by Victor2 on Jul 22, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was just a joke Victor, you called the spurs boring, and said that you can’t stand them, the least I can do is call your team a loser for the next 2-3 years.

Onto more serious stuff though, do you think Evans will develop into a point guard? I personally would’ve picked Rubio. I just think that Evans is more of a scorer, remember John Salmons? Evans does have a good shot to be better than Salmons, but their styles are pretty similar. The kings traded Salmons because they didn’t need another wing scorer when they already had Martin. What they needed was a good defender and complimentary player (hence why they got Nocioni, whom I like a lot). What do you think? Evans developing into a point guard and running the team? Do they even need him to be a point guard? Could the team get by without having a true point? I don’t know. What’s your take?

And yes, half the spurs are a few years from dying, but at least it’s only half now. I shall go on continuing to be dumb until you respond. I’m still joking, so don’t take me too seriously.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 22, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tlo, you don’t have to tell him you’re still joking if you use smilies

by BlaseE on Jul 22, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Mr Smiley, check your email.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 22, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, I just didn’t want to succumb so quickly LatinD’s smiley rule, even out of necessity. I just feel that it makes a joke so much less funny if you tell someone you’re joking (which is what I did anyways). Okay, I’ll be more tolerable about using it.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 22, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why a warning might be needed on the front page for all who enter PtR. Jokes are SOP here, but not necessarily on other sites. What might seem like rude or stupid behavior by others is only us having fun with one another. I figure with my sig (thanks, Lauri) I shouldn’t have to explain my sarcasm, but I’ve gone with the LD flow and started to include smilies. Thank goodness lurkers don’t usually show up during game threads.

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Jul 22, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was getting excited. i thought something like (was that) pysch [sic] and (was that) jrw would ensue… now that the bulk of the offseason moves are over for the Spurs, we need some drama around here…

oh and

:)

by theonlyromeo on Jul 22, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve read this about 10 times and I still can’t make heads or tails of it. And apparently, I’m unable to simply leave a comment be without asking, “What are you saying?”

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 22, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ooooh how the tables have turned Mr. JRW… haha, jk, I wanted to ask the same thing.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 22, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha ur right.. not the clearest post… flashbacks of physcopops and you…

i thought it would escalate. (maybe i was secretly hoping it would; who wouldnt? i mean, kings fan vs a spurs fan? oh the bloodshed!)

i recced ur post for not being rude. u couldve just said: “You don’t making any fucking sense.”

by theonlyromeo on Jul 23, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"their ignorance made me do it"

TOR, how could I have forgotten physcopops? Wow, that was one of the truly epic threads. We had so many different things going, and every time it was about to peter out, someone would re-comment, and we’d be off again.

Thanks for the clarification. I do like understanding stuff.

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 23, 2009 2:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the sarcasmometers in PTR have gone down in quality since we started adding so many smileys on the jokes. We have become so dependent on the smileys that we cannot even identify the most simple jokes without them… for example:

Yes, Manu’s nose is beautiful and I would do anything to have one like it o;—-)

So this is what I propose. A 15 day moratorium on the joke warning smileys. Its for the best really. We can do it. Yes we can!!

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on Jul 22, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in that case, jrw couldve just told me:

"You don’t making any fucking sense. : )"

by theonlyromeo on Jul 23, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love this thread. :)

"Give me chonchon."

by Slowpoke Rodriguez on Jul 23, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree… smileys can only be used when you want to be an ass… for jokes use the sarcasmometer… there is a reason it is included in the welcome package

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on Jul 23, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

love the welcome package — rec from me

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 23, 2009 2:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just about spit gatorade on my laptop after reading Hipuks post. Rec’d!

by xman130 on Jul 23, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus Christ, I laughed at this.

by Lauri on Jul 23, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And this is why we’ve missed Hipuks. Now where’s our fish pics?

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Jul 23, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I now I feel so uncool because of my smilies. You’re a true REBEL.

Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on Jul 23, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can’t wait to see the rant when he finds out about GOL.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie

by bellasa on Jul 23, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

::surreptitiously leaves the room::

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 23, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

G
   O
       L

yes, that had me dropping down the stairs.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 23, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Link? :):):)

My tapeworm tells me what to do.

by Hipuks on Jul 23, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It all started harmlessly enough. But it grew into a monster and consumed PtR.

I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!

by Tim C. on Jul 24, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And along the way, the JHS never got another mention. Well, I guess that’s how those things go.

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 24, 2009 2:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"You don’t making any fucking sense."


that’s it. i’m not posting anymore. ill stick to lurking again.

by theonlyromeo on Jul 23, 2009 12:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

apparently that’s not how you do it.

i’m drunk. is that a good excuse?

by theonlyromeo on Jul 23, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude, I had three straight threads that I was reply FAILing all over — there’s no shame in it

or actually, there’s plenty of shame, but just about everybody’s been there, so it’s cool

don’t just lurk, join in – much better that way

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 23, 2009 2:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i feel a bit better now.

besides, i resigned a few months back, and with the season not yet starting, there’s nothing else i can do but comment on stuff.

by theonlyromeo on Jul 23, 2009 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Read the formatting guides – they help. Also, use the Preview button before you post. It is your friend.

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Jul 23, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel like my relationship with the Preview button has gone way beyond friendship, into something that can’t be described by words.

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 23, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a picture/drawing would suffice.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 23, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t sully the wonderful gift that Preview button has given me by stooping to such a level.

5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 23, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man, is Sacramento still part of the NBA? I thought maybe they got sent back down to the D League or something.

In fact, I think that is a great idea. Each year, the team with the worst record gets no lottery pick and has to play in the D-League the following season. Then allow whichever D-League team wins the championship to replace them in the lottery and in the NBA schedule. That would make it interesting!

Haters beware: Kobe's drive for 5 starts now!-SLAM Magazine

by olf on Jul 23, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kind of like they do in soccer eh? Interesting thoughts, that’s for sure. It would keep teams from throwing games.

by xman130 on Jul 23, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m all for that. Specially if Lebron somehow gets injured for the whole season (much like Robinson did before Tim came) and the Cavs are the worst team in the NBA (not really a stretch if you take out Lebron). Then the Cavs would have to play in the D-League with Lebron healthy again, and being so pissed about it. It would be so funny to watch. Maybe that’s how Lebron could finally get his championship.

I wonder if Lebron would tell the NBA to confiscate any videos in which he gets dunked on by D-Leaguers.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 23, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

This comment is all kinds of hilarious.

I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!

by Tim C. on Jul 23, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hah. You just explained why this would never fly in the NBA.

Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on Jul 23, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, the NBA wouldn’t allow any of it’s poster childs, specially it’s Main Poster Child LBJ to go to the D-League. For soccer fans soccer teams are just that, teams, in the NBA, there’s a lot more focus by the fans on individual players. Fans would get more mad that a good player (not a bad team) would be going to the D-League, even if it means the second coming of the big O, in which Lebron averages a triple double for a whole season in the D-League.

"He's Manu Ginobili"

by the little o on Jul 23, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t know about soccer – don’t follow it much.

I still like the idea and they should abolish the salary cap for the bottom 5 teams 60 days before the trading deadline. Let the bottom feeders battle it out.

Haters beware: Kobe's drive for 5 starts now!-SLAM Magazine

by olf on Jul 23, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the future, I’ll had a music link to each of these because I really like that. The song I wanted for this one wasn’t on youtube but its Tonic’s Queen if you want to hear the sample on iTunes.

by BlaseE on Jul 24, 2009 12:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But as the headline for the game say, the real memory of this game is the absolutely pathetic refereeing which counted Finley’s shot clock violating 3 to win the game. I remember Graydon or Tim on 48 Minutes of Hell saying they didn’t care about the shot clock miscue because we would have won in overtime. That’s good enough for me.

But not for me. As a Kings fan, it was a pathetic memory, and the people I felt bad for (besides what I felt which was little admittedly) were the people in the stands who watched a pathetic moment destroy the last chance at a win they paid to get into the building.

It doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things, but for those 10000 people it did.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Aug 16, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That is a great point. I can imagine the agony of those fans having been to some questionable games myself (not that this one was questionable). This is another reason why we need better replays in the NBA. You’re absolutely right.

by BlaseE on Aug 16, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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