San Antonio Spurs Summer League: Game 3 - Postgame Discussion Thread
by LatinD on Jul 16, 2009 9:28 PM CDT
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PrintMany things happened tonight, good things, things we can feel happy about. And we even won our third straight game of this Summer League.
The Blair/Mahinmi frontcourt gelled tonight, combining for 33 points and 6 offensive rebounds, and despite a lackluster performance rebounding defensively they're proving to be everything we hoped they would. Hill had some silly turnovers, some dubious turnovers, and some plain old turnovers, but he was still spectacular in every aspect that didn't involve shooting a triple. Malik Hairston can shoot, he can finish at the hoop with an explosive final step, and he can look old. Taking into consideration George's precedent, Jack McClinton is destined to become the best Summer League player in the history of the league... next year.
Yup, it's another good day to be a Spurs fan. Come discuss the game, right after the jump:
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Crap! I didn’t see the last option.
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
me neither! Dang it.
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 16, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
He was mentioned once, but this Bell guy quickly put all that discussion to rest.
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
this is exciting and Im sorry I missed it… the team can shoot free throws so Im not sure if that was actually the Spurs summer team. 9 assists for Hill!! That is great, they came with turnovers but the fact that he is getting assists is a side of him I havent seen yet.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
How did Blair score his points? Shooting, posting up or of offensive rebounds?
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
Blair was spectacular. He’s got game, LE – he’s not just a rebounding machine. He has legitimate offensive weapons.
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Even a sweet short skyhook, if my eyes didn’t deceive me.
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Dunkin' Cheerleaders
And help him grow a couple of inches taller ;-)
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
I read an interview a while back, I’m sure others will recall it, with Manu’s brother. He told a story of when Manu was a child and went to the doctors for a check up and they did whatever tests doctors do to predict a childs adult height. Well the doc told Manu he would grow to be something like 5’11 and of course this infuriated Manu. After that day Manu would measure himself almost daily determined to grow tall enough to be a pro basketball player. Manu’s brother said something like “I don’t know how the hell he ended up 6’6, it’s like he willed himself to grow…” I guess Manu is way taller than his brothers.
Also, you wouldn’t believe if but I grew almost 2 inches when I was 21.
Just call me The Profit
I’d never read that before. Great story.
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
I’m 21 and I had a check up a few days and ago and it turns out I grew an inch this past year. I was 5’10 1/2 last year, and now 5’11 1/2. Dammit! I won’t reach 6’ feet I’m sure, unless I put on shoes. Turns out I also gained weight which made my doctor worry a bit. from 155 to 170. I then explained to her that the weight gain was just an unfortunate side effect of my age, and she understood.
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 16, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
It isn’t uncommon for guys to grow into their 20s. Since Blair is just 20 he could still grow an inch or two. According to wiki David Robinson went from 6’ 7" his senior year in high school to 7’ by the end of college.
Even a sweet short skyhook, if my eyes didn’t deceive me.
A lost art in the NBA. . .
With his size and length, I’d love to see Blair utilize the sky hook consistently. Bring that shit back!
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
showed that and more!
believe it or not, Blair faced up from 20 feet and drove to the bucket once, finishing with a layup. He also got the ball out in transition off a turnover and finished with a layup.
Both times my jaw dropped and I thought to myself, “self, is there anything Blair CAN’T do?!?!”. Consequently, it was Blair that got my vote.
my guess for the response for his self would be combining something along the lines of “owning” and “ACL’s”. But he’s stop after that trust me.
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 17, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Its a shame that McClinton could not get his shot going… Its not like last year when Georgie sucked but he still got a psot. McClinton might not get a psot this year if he keeps playing poorly. I like the optimism of the post though.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
I also like the optimism of the psot.
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
Here’s the definition of “psot”
It’s in the lexicon as of earlier this week. ; )
And LE, way to go with the first legit usage of it — and you said that you wouldn’t be able to remember it!
5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)
I saw the original, I was just trying to be sarcastic/ironic
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
we should not give up on him, he is too good of a shooter to give up on him. He needs to adapt his game to the nba and the spurs system, he can do that in D-league. And who knows maybe he can earn a 10 day contract and make the team later on the year.
Don’t we still have room and the 1 and 2? With Tony, Hill, Manu, and Mason, he could still get some burn at the end of the bench, couldn’t he?
My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri
There really isn’t room for Mclinton. There are 14 contract players (including Hairston and Marcus Williams). I think Gist gets the final spot before Mclinton. Either would be with the Toros anyway.
Welcome to PtR, Spurlady. Neither Gist nor McClinton has been impressive in summer league. We just have more room at the guard spot than the forward spot. But it wouldn’t hurt to have JackAttack learning at the Toros.
My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri
Ian is showing he can play D. He is averging 1.7 blocks. He had only 2 fouls this game. If he can do that and get a few rebounds during the regualr season I be happy with him. I think we just needed to give him time to get back into game shape. Each game he looks better. Hopefully by the preseason he can go back to the Ian that was in the D league a few ago.
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
she seems like a phantom female. Next one to stop her again wins an egg! (not her egg of course)
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 17, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone know if the contracts of Hairston and TOMs (T.he O.ther M.arcus Williams.) are guaranteed?
Hola, new member of the sistern!
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie
Good lord, how did another one sneak in?
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 19, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I get the sneaking suspicion that one Mike Finley is going to be playing the 2 more often this year. Which leaves little room for the likes of Jack Attack(unless he really gets it going in traning camp or the last 2 games of SL)
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
I would rather use that time for malik Hariston between the SF and SG at times. He is showing he can play ball.
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
I’m assuming Hairston is going to make the team. I’m loving his game this summer. I just think that JackAttack, GIST, and Williams are all up in the air for psots. If rikiddo is right about Findog, than McClinton will definitely end up in Austin.
My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri
He is most likely going to end up Austin. Altough I just think he can prove to the sprus he can play at NBA level. I would chosse Malik over Finley if he can show us he is more atlhetic and verstial. Also a good scorer to, he is already better at D than Finley was with the spurs.
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
verstial is otstanding…. almost like vestial…. which should actually be bestial…
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on Jul 16, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with you, i would put malik over finley in the rotation, it is time to develop him. But Finley is proven veteran, and he can still hit the pressure three, and we all know that pop likes veteran and cant trust rookies.
Someone post here some days ago that finley should get the steve smith minutes (in 03), and i agree 100% with that.
Does anyone know whether it’s possible to see highlights of these games anywhere on-line? the nba.com site is just killing me.
they are very good at making terrible, impossible to navigate websites. If LatinD could not find the scoreboard… they are surely doing something wrong.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on Jul 16, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
For Lauri (and anyone else who’s interested): Kevin Durant interview at BDL
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
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Tweet from David Thorpe:
Blair has tractor beam hands. Or they are magnets to leather.
My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri
I was going to suggest “tractor beam” for a nickname before, but thought I had suggested too many. Damn you, Thorpe!
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
- 1 part Black hole space eating destruction
- 2 parts Tractor beam
- 1 part Geekiness
-———————————
“Death Star”
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
I like.
What say you, PtR? DeJuan “Death Star” Blair?
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
“Blair Force One” is still first on my list. But we should definitely try out “Death Star” during a game thread.
My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri
And yet “Space Eater” has a sort of sci-fi comic book villain to it that I like.
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Dunkin' Cheerleaders
Wow, mad props for busting out the good Reverend.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 17, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
- 0 part Anterior Cruciate Ligament
Just call me The Profit
by Manuwar on Jul 16, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d be cool if this Death Star could also be a transformer that transforms into an animal. For when Blair gets his shot blocked.
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 16, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Transformer you say?
DeJuan Optimus Prime Blair?
Actually I’m still rolling with Grizzly Blair. Too good to pass up.
The top choices so far for me are Grizzly Blair and Blair Force One. Im also partial to Singularity though.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on Jul 16, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Optimus Prime Minister Blair Force One?
too long?
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
OPMB-F1?
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on Jul 16, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
DeJUAN
Aldridge and -Snow on NBA-TV already have him pegged as the steal of the draft.
Hi, my name is Ed, and I despise the Lakers.
Last names starting with B are the best....
But not as good as stats.
The opposing 6 starting guards are a combined 23 of 63 for 36.5% against us in the first 3 games. Overall, teams are shooting 41.7% against us. We are shooting 48.4%.
Opponents have missed 119 shots against us leading to 40 offensive boards and 72 defensive rebounds and 7 balls that I guess went out of bounds. 64.3% rebound rate as a team on the defensive glass. This isn’t great.
We have missed 96 shots leading to 34 offensive and 54 defensive rebounds and 8 out bounds. 35.4% offensive rebound rate. This is beyond great. Our team was last in the league last year at 22.0%.
Our four players under contract (Bell, Blair, Bairston, and Bahinmi):
- are a combined 55 of 105 for 52.4%. Blair is shooting 67% so you can imagine this would be higher if he had minutes in game 2.
- have 8 of our 16 blocks. Bahinmi with 5 leads us. Blair doesn’t have any.
- 17 of 33 assists. Bell has 14 and Bairston has 3. What’s up with our bigs not passing out? No wonder our offense looks so terrible with Hill on the bench.
- 8 of our 14 steals. Bell leads us with 5.
- 60 of our 106 rebounds. Blair and Bahinmi have 40 rebounds on 133 minutes for 14.4 per 48. You have to imagine this would only be higher if Blair didn’t skip a game even though Bahinmi stepped up.
- 59 of our 87 FTA’s (67.8%) while making them at 89.8%! So 67.8% of our FTA’s while taking only 57.7% of our FGA’s.
Hill has 1.69 pps. That is an impressive number considering he is 0/5 from 3. Maybe it is his 25 FTA’s on 36 FGA’s.
I won’t give you the stats but by the box scores, Lasme has outplayed Gist. Pop spoke highly of him in the interview as well.
Team Stats
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
by BlaseE on Jul 16, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
wow excellent find that helps spread optimism.
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 16, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Even Bell would agree with that. I loved during the game when the announcer asked that Minnesota FO guy about Blair falling all the way to the Spurs right after commenting how the Wolves had 3 first round picks and the guy corrected him and said “4, we drafted and traded Ty Lawson”…..zing!
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
Yes!! finally someone got infected by it! Sorry bduran, but I pass the reply fail onto you. In you’re defense, you’re drinking and I am not though.
Oh, yes, they needed a point guard, but two? I cracked up when they selected Lawson. 3? Talk about not being able to see the box.
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 16, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Thabeet went for 7 points, 3 rebounds, 7 fouls, and 5 TO’s. No steals, assists, or blocks. Good thing we didn’t trade up to get our guy 35 picks later who went for 20 pts on 8 of 11 and 4 of 4 from the stripe, 5 rebounds, 2 TO’s, and a steal in 2 minutes less.
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
Love how George Bell is on the poll.
Alright, I’m going to come clean, I’m now a Hairston believer. I wasn’t too sure about him before Summer League play, but he’s shown improvement in each game. I really hope he makes the team now. He’s solid.
Very impressed with Blair. He’s very deceptive in the way he plays. I’m amazed at how developed his game is.
Gotta agree with you on all counts, beachwood. And as far as Blair goes, I’m having to restrain my enthusiasm to keep myself from comparing him to _______ _______, or saying that he might be the next _______ _______, or talking about how that play he made the other night reminded me of the time that _______ had that _______ _______ in the _______ against _______.
Ahhhh. I can’t wait until the season starts and I can stop editing myself.
5 in 10
I want my Manu o;—-)
you totally suck! You just took all of that suspense and made me swallow it.
On the only plus side, I think I’ve learned that alcohol cures my reply fail sickness… aren’t you proud? me finding a cure and everything? It’s time for my next forty.
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 17, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing wrong with drinking and blogging. At least I’ll have company at my intervention.
My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri
Company? It won’t be an intervention if I’m there, I’ll try to make it a debate. We can beat all of those sober MF, trust me. Drinkin’ is just a little medicine that God gave us to forget…
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 18, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh my God! Marry me right now please! Ramen is what I used to eat as a child for breakfast, now I love it more than life itself. I am seriously not kidding.
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 18, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, for the love of PSM…
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie
P?
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 19, 2009 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
How embarassing! I was thinking of Pasta and wrote PSM, instead of FSM. Do I have egg on my face!
And you know egg doesn’t look good with the green stuff. :(
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie
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