San Antonio Spurs Summer League Game 2 Postgame Discussion Thread
by Tim C. on Jul 14, 2009 11:10 PM CDT
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And so ends game 2 of Summer League play for the Spurs. There were definitely some promising signs, and some mystery as well. As in, nobody knows what the real reason was for DeJuan Blair's DNP-CD. Also, there were the players. Just like last time, let's find out who made the biggest impact on the game for our Spurs. Box score after the jump.
NOTE: Stats under "A. Anderson" actually belong to Romel Beck, and vice versa.
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RC commented on Blair's absence
Said they were trying to figure out how to handle his body and give some opportunity for others. Needless to say, Blair is in the Spurs’ future plans…a guy like Gist still has something to prove.
The official reason given for Blair’s rest: Having already seen what Blair can do with a standout double-double performance in his summer league debut Sunday, the Spurs wanted to give a longer look to other big men, such as Ian Mahinmi and James Gist.
-Mysanantonio
"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich
by Aaron "Hirschof" Preine on Jul 15, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Mahinmi the runaway winner
Yes Hill and Hairston were solid, and yes Mahinmi actually fouled out in the 4th period (registering 10 fouls in 8 minutes)…but Mahinmi was beyond impressive.
For a guy with something to prove, Mahinmi delivered. He was active all night…blocking shots, disrupting passes, running the floor, making the easy buckets and most importantly REBOUNDING.
For a guy in his second game back from a year-long hiatus, Mahinmi was damn impressive.
Glad to see Yawn play well, but George controlled the game. Unlike last year, he now looks like a PG.
by doggydogworld on Jul 14, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Mahinmi was shafted
clearly the 3rd (offensive fould) and 10th fouls (should have been tailor) were b.s.
he had 8, maybe 9 fouls at the most!
dave mcnulla
spurs fan
fouls mean next to nothing
In the summer league each player gets 10 fouls per quarter, which means the refs call pretty much anything and everything. They are also auditioning for prospective jobs at the NBA level and I’m sure they’re instructed to call things very tight.
I wouldn’t read too much into how many fouls he had or how bad the calls actually were. First, he won’t be playing 30 minutes per game and second, most of those calls wouldn’t be made in a real NBA game.
Add Sonny Weems to the Poll
2-16 is some serious game impact
I love the Desert Fox, both the nickname and the man, but the worst thing I could ever have done was research him. Turns out that he had guts aplenty, and he was always ready for an engagement, but that’s about the end of his only good qualities. So many of his early successes were strictly due to his foolhardy rushing into the action, some luck, and the relative tentativeness of his fellow officers. After that, he lived on reputation for most of the rest of his career. Also, Patton owned him.
It’d have been so much better if he’d really had a strategic mind that was the reason that he owned the Allied forces in North Africa for so long. ::sigh::
Oh, another nice reference by the way, Lauri
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
Wow, you pretty much described Beck right there. “Guts aplenty” and not afraid to shoot it. Certainly “foolhardy” both on offense and on defense. “Lived on reputation for most of his career” everyone knows him as the guy to cross over coby (damn wrong kobe this time) and shoot the and 1. The guy is certainly not “strategic”. I’m all in for this Desert Fox.
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 15, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Gotta go with it then.
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
don’t get too wound up about seeing romel beck in silver and black after this week guys. he certainly knows where the basket is, but isnt the type of player to exert too much effort on defense and you know what that means to pop. besides, the spurs have kind of stocked the shelves with proven scorer types.
i wouldnt discount beck getting picked up by another NBA team though. given his international performances, he is somewhat of a known quantity in the league. because of that, he would probably opt to play professionally somewhere else before he takes a D-League assignment for any length of time.
Ok lets have a look at the roster
Here is what i think is going to be the final roster:
Duncan
Mcdyess
RJ
Mason
Parker
Bench:
Ian
Blair
Finley
Manu
Hill
We need 2 more:
Bonner-Haislip
Hairston-Beck
What do you think
1st unit:
Dice
Timmeh
RJ
Mason
Tony
2nd unit:
Ian
Blair
Findog
Manu
Cubits
Garbage time all-stars/Toros duty:
Bonner
Haislip
Hairston
McClinton [or maybe Beck, if Jack continues teh suckage and Pop says “fuck it”]
Williams
That’s a full 15-man roster
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
I think the first 10 by themselves could do some serious damage.
Hi, my name is Ed, and I despise the Lakers.
by Ed (dfjmed) on Jul 14, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
True… make them compete for it in Austin.
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
we won’t ever have 15 guys under contract with owning the Toros. Always have a spot for rotating call-ups and 10 day contracts. I think McClinton, Williams, and Beck can take that spot and Gist goes to europe if we want to use the BAE to get a vet like Bowen or another big.
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
Bowen will be back. Latin’sheed!
Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
Bowen just went for the only team that has a coach who maybe will play him big minutes. Seriously, Skiles loves players like Bowen. And they just traded Jefferson to the spurs, so they have a bit of a hole there. Dont be shocked if Bruce gets to start. Yes, skiles is capable of doing that.
I watched lots of Bulls games when Skiles coached them (after all, I wanted to see Nocioni) and he gave BIG minutes to guys like Malik Allen and Addrien Griffin.
"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"
I just added the interview with Ian to the top of this post. Check it out.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 14, 2009 11:22 PM CDT reply actions
Hahaha, great interview ATS!!!
And the “first triple double” question and Ian’s response/reaction was priceless.
Can we get him to say “unbelievable” during interviews too.
werd, werd!
McDyess can bring [toughness] back. Not sexy back unfortunately, though we already have Manu for that.~silverandblack_davis
by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 14, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Great interview. Your best so far, and his reaction was priceless.
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Dunkin' Cheerleaders
What the heck was that long, suffering sigh at the end?
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Dunkin' Cheerleaders
yeah, that was me.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 15, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Priceless. The question and answer were awesome!
It is what it is.
We are who we are.
by SinCitySpur on Jul 14, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, guys, it’s been fun. Off to kill some nazi zombies. If anyone has COD 5, you’re welcome to join me.
Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
Cash On Delivery?
It is what it is.
We are who we are.
by SinCitySpur on Jul 14, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I know, just giving you a hard time :)
It is what it is.
We are who we are.
by SinCitySpur on Jul 14, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
LatinD plays on the PC. He’s too jurassic for high-tech gaming platforms.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 15, 2009 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I should’ve known. Thanks
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 15, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions
PS3 and 360 are for kids who can’t afford high-end PC gaming platforms that ROCK YOUR FACE OFF!
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by LatinD on Jul 15, 2009 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well I have neither a PS3 or a 360. My computer is old and slow and wouldn’t work for PC games right now. Luckily, I have a nintendo, and a gameboy to distract me. Talk about not being able to afford any kind of high end equipment.
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 15, 2009 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Poor o… If anything, LucasArts is about to release a new version of the original Monkey Island. It’s going to be great, and you can probably run it in your antique contraption.
Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
It’s alright, it’s been a while since I’ve been into video games, I sold my PS2 sometime ago. I’m more into the mind altering medicines now. If you know what I mean. That way, when I play my Nintendo it makes it seem like a Xbox 1080!
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 15, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
So Beck and Blair get a DNPCD. Is Coach Don under strict orders from Pop to follow a certain plan? Who is really coaching this team? Pop from Napa Valley or RC from the stands?
It is what it is.
We are who we are.
Beck and Anderson are switched in the stats
Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?
Beck played… there was something very wrong with that boxscore.
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
Oh, I knew that. I didn’t get to see the game. Thanks for correcting me.
It is what it is.
We are who we are.
by SinCitySpur on Jul 14, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
There was an interview with RC. Reading between the lines, I think Blair is currently at Area 51 to reimplant the ACLs the Spurs secretly took out during his pre-draft interview to scare away the other GMs so that DeJuan would drop into the 2nd round.
My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri
I would say Pop from Napa with a cell phone on speaker, his feet on the ottoman and a glass of red cradled gently in the palm of his hand.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie
OK everyone, I have things to do. Most notably, sleep.
G’night.
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
man Yawn is a fouling machine
What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)
the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post
by Hamer_SpursFan on Jul 15, 2009 12:05 AM CDT reply actions
Ian is an awesome guy to interview. He gives you a lot of information and he is very funny. He remembered my questions from the other day and started with “like I told you the other day”.
We talked a little after I turned off the recorder. He’s just a fun guy.
CMoney, I still need to shut up. It’s killing me.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 15, 2009 12:15 AM CDT reply actions
IAN
hes doin pretty good i think he should be in the rotation, he just needs more playing time i wouldnt be surprised if he makes the team this year hes doing pretty good.
Coby's best game ever, then this:
Karl was the game’s high-scorer with 19, as she shot 6-of-7 from the field…..
http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/games/20090714/DENSAS/recap.html
OK, I lied… one last thing before I go to bed. Jeff McDonald’s recap. I like how he points out Hill’s defense – I was so overwhelmed by how Ian played, I didn’t even notice.
I used to be a c+x kind of guy, but nowadays I just go nuts with my z. - LatinD
Retire Bowen's #12!
What’s happening to JackMac? I thought he was gonna be our little engine that could… :(
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 15, 2009 1:15 AM CDT reply actions
Yo, he’s struggling. I think he’s struggling with his decision-making more than anything else. Not sure why I say that, just an impression.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 15, 2009 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Didn't see it but read the thread
Since you’re right there, can you tell us if you think it’s the same kind of thing that Hill had going on last year and Timmeh did in his SL games? Rumors were with Duncan that the coaching staff had told him to concentrate on only doing a particular skill and it made his game look weird.
Also, can you describe any of his 4 assists? He seemed to get them pretty quickly but I didn’t see if anyone said he was running the point — which I assumed he was.
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
I didn’t recall them. I just looked at the score sheet at the end of the quarter and noticed.
I just don’t think he knows when to shoot. Also, he hasn’t been good with the ball when they have asked him to bring it up. His confidence is in the shitter.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 15, 2009 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Argh, I don’t like this.
But at least there’s a precedent of draft choices playing horribly in SL games and following that up with training camp and making the roster.
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
Jack isn’t somebody we need this year. Yes, it would be nice if he was a productive player, but who could he get minutes from? Tony, George, Manu, and Roger are locked in. Hell, as a spot up shooter FinDog is really good as your 5th guard.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 15, 2009 2:28 AM CDT up reply actions
We all know the crazy range, but I thought the Spurs staff loved his defense? How does it look like? Heck, if he isn’t getting a lot of burn, how are they supposed to properly evaluate him?
Offensively, are the coaches running him some plays? As a shooter, maybe he needs some shots to get into the flow of the game. Conversely, though, maybe the coaching staff is trying to teach him to be effective without getting a lot of touches.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 15, 2009 3:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I think hes struggling with the system (not being the main guy anymore) and also he has lost trust in himself because he’s not even shooting. He needs to work in playing without the ball, he’s going to be much effective if he can do that. I also think the coaching staff should give him the greenlight (and minutes) for at least one game and see what happens.
There is this thread on ST about a rumor from Hoopsworld that Blair wun play until there is a contract in place. Blair kept tweeting until yesterday that he can’t wait for the next game etc, but apparently, now the rumor might have some credence since he didn’t play.
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