The Wonder Years, Part Two - A Spurs Retrospective
- Part 1: The Chaps (1967-1972)
Enter San Antonio
The Chaparrals were done in Dallas. Despite James Silas' addition before their last season in Cuban's city, the roster was depleted and finished the 1972-73 season with a mediocre record. Attendance was the worst in the league, and as we saw in part 1 photos of the arena showed only handfuls of people in the seats. The owners decided to cut their loses and sold it to a group of 36 investors from another Texas city: San Antonio.
The group were led by John Schaefer, B. J. "Red" McCombs, Art Burdick, and Angelo Drossos. At first they only leased the team for three years, with an option to buy it after that period, but they decided to go ahead and do it after only one year with the team because of the strong support from the fans. And thus, one of the most successful teams in the NBA was created.
To pick the new team's name, a public contest was organized. The first name picked was San Antonio "Gunslingers", but fortunately it was quickly changed to San Antonio Spurs before they played their first game of the season. The change was supposedly made because the new name represented the Texan heritage and also made for a nice logo - that sure worked out great for the Thunder, many years later.
Tom Nissalke, who had coached the Chaps during the 1971-72 season and had resigned despite winning the ABA Coach of the Year award, was hired. The starting line-up featured 5-10 Joe Hamilton, 6-3 James Silas, 6-3 Harley "Skeeter" Swift, 6-8 Rich Jones, and 6-9 Bob Netolicky (talk about small ball). The lineup would change quickly during the season, but it was good enough to treat San Antonio's new fans to a 91-89 exhibition season victory over the NBA Houston Rockets on October 6th, 1973. (Also signed in 1973? George Karl, who had been drafted 14th in the fourth round of the 1973 NBA draft and thus decided to give the ABA a try. He played 5 years for the Spurs. I feel dirty now.)
Here's an anecdote from PTR regular tomasito that involves young Karl:
My brother had just graduated high school, and at the time, may have been the best high school basketball player in the history of San Antonio high school ball (he was the leading all-time scorer in city history). He was working as a counselor at Spurs basketball camp over the summer, as was a washed-up George Karl, after his stint in the league was over. Karl was just looking to try to catch on as a scout or assistant or something.
Anyways, my brother, Mr. High School Hotshot, challenged George Karl, washed up ex-NBAer, to a game of 1-on-1. They played to 5 or 7 or something, by ones. Karl won 7-0, and according to my brother, it wasn’t even that close. He never even got the ball; if he played off of him, Karl would just bury the J, and if he got up on him, Karl would drive around him for an easy layup. Bear in mind, my brother was a great high school player and went on to play D1 college ball.
I always think of this story whenever I hear someone say something like "Steve Nash (or insert random NBA player here) couldn’t guard me." Those guys are really, really good, and no, you could not do anything against one of them.
Growing Pains
Their first ABA game was played on October 10th, 1973 at the one and only Hemisfair Arena, and the Spurs started with a bang: they fell to the San Diego Conquistadors 121-106 before 5,879 hopeful fans. They went on to lose their first four games before claiming their first win on October 18th, when they beat the Virginia Squires 116-106. Only 1,799 people were in attendance.
The Spurs started to turn the tide in November, when they bought 6-11 Swen Nater for $300,000 and a future draft pick from the Virginia Squires - who, like many of the less popular ABA teams, were struggling to make ends meet. He was the first great big man in the Spurs' history, and on November 28th the Spurs played before a sellout crowd of 10,146 and beat the Kentucky Colonels, to improve to 13-12. Nater went on to play in the ABA All-Star Game, scoring 29 points and grabbing 22 rebounds, and was the winner of the ABA Rookie of the Year award.
And then, the Spurs hit the jackpot.
In January, the Squires were again in dire need of cash, and its owner asked Spurs Treasurer Angelo Drossos for a $225,000 loan. The collateral? None other than sophomore George "Ice" Gervin. Of course, Virginia's owner failed to pay the loan and Gervin's contract became a Spur. However, when ABA Commissioner Storen (seriously, that was his name - I almost thought they'd misspelt Stern's name and that he really was that old) found out about the Gervin deal, he tried to rescind it, claiming it was "detrimental to the league, and to the financial viability of the Virginia Squires franchise." Ignoring that he was probably right, this proves once again that the conspiracy against our beloved Spurs has been going on for decades.
After a month-long legal battle, a judge issued an order preventing Gervin from playing for any other ABA team than the Spurs. It was arguably the biggest deal in Spurs history (no, RJ doesn't count), and caused a lot of controversy at the time. In fact, at one point, the 21-year-old Gervin went into hiding for a week as the Spurs, the ABA commissioner and the Squires battled it out.
Hemisfair Arena - nostalgia alert!
We Were The Spurs
Gervin averaged 19.4 points in 26 games left in the regular season. He led the team along with Silas and Nater to a respectable 45-39 record (winning 12 of the last 18 games), good for third place in the Western Division. They met the Indiana Pacers in the first round of the postseason, and even though the series went back and forth, the Pacers eventually won it in seven games. The Spurs had the largest home crowd in their brief history for game 6, with 12,304 fans filling the arena to its maximum capacity.
Reading about the Spurs' history, sometimes it's impossible not to find parellelisms between the teams I read about and our Spurs. The 1973-74 had a Big Three of their own, for instance, in Gervin, Silas and Nater. I'll talk later about Silas' style of play, which should remind me of someone else's. And the 1973-74 Spurs were described as "controlled and deliberate on offense, and extremely stingy on defense". Early in the season on October 20th, the Spurs beat the Indiana Pacers 92-66, which was an ABA record low for Indiana. Two weeks later, on November 3rd, the Spurs limited the Denver Rockets to 72 points. Ringing any bells? Over the course of that first season, the Spurs held their opponents below the 100-point level 49 times - another ABA record.
Oh My God, We Were The Suns
The 1974-75 Spurs's starting five were Gervin, Nater, Silas, sixth-year forward Rich Jones and Chaparrals veteran Donnie Freeman. They got off to a pretty good 17-10 start, but then Nissalke was fired in December, and the famous Bob Bass took over as coach. As I mentioned, Nissalke liked the slow, defensive half-court game favored in the NBA, and the Spurs' Front Office wanted the loose transition game most ABA teams used. Bass, who in the future would be the Spurs' general manager for many years, also moved Gervin from forward to shooting guard, getting him away from the post and giving him free reign to become one of the most proficient scorers in the history of the game. Suffice to say that Gervin excelled in the fast-paced offense, and in fact once said:
"The NBA people believed you won games with defense, but nobody ever won with defense. You won by putting the ball into the net more than the other guys."
Yeaaah... Forgive me for disagreeing with you, great Iceman, but unfortunately the run-and-gun (or run-and-shoot, as it was called back then) Spurs never won a championship, and wouldn't for many, many years.
It was a good season, regardless. San Antonio finished second in the Western Division with a 51-33 record. In what would become a common sight years later, Gervin scored 51 points against the Memphis Sounds on February 5th. They met the Indiana Pacers once more in the playoffs, and despite Gervin catching fire and averaging 35.0 points in the last three games of the series, they once again came short and lost in six games.
Nater was gone in the offseason of 1975, traded to the New York Nets for forward Larry Kenon. When the 1975-76 season started, the ABA only had 7 teams left, all playing in one division. The Spurs finished the season in third place with a 50-34 record, and won seven of the last eight. In the playoffs they met Julius Erving's New York Nets in the first round. During game 1, Silas, who at that point was still the team's leading scorer at 23.8 ppg, broke his ankle landing on a Net's foot. The Spurs somehow overcame his absence and pushed the Nets to 7 games, losing the last one (their last game in the ABA) 114-121. The Nets went on to claim the ABA's ninth and final championship.
Red McCombs in da hizzy
This Sounds Awfully Familiar
I've been reading some articles about the first true star that played for the San Antonio Spurs, like this one written by David Friedman - I can't recommend it enough. Now, I doubt any of you ever watched him play, so of course I'm basing this on the written accounts of his playing days. That disclaimer aside...
James Silas was Manu Ginobili.
He was Manu before Manu, that is. Manu is Silas 2.0, with extra Argentinian flair, but still recognizable. Allow me to explain: Silas was first and foremost the Spurs' 4th quarter specialist. He was so explosive in the clutch that he earned the nickname "Captain Late" (his other nickname was "the snake" - I don't know what to think about that one). Despite being one of the biggest stars in the ABA, he was content to live in relative obscurity playing for the Spurs. In an interview from 1974, where he was asked if he was bothered by the fact that only a few ABA games were televised, in sharp contrast with the NBA, he said:
"I'm happy with our league. We have a lot of fine talent. The television thing is not important to me. It would be nice for people around the country to see our talent, though. I feel they're being cheated."
When they met the Pacers (who were defending their title) in 1974 and took them to 7 games, it was Silas that the Pacers double teamed, ignoring Gervin. Bob Bass, his coach, shared an anecdote:
"I remember calling a play and Gervin had a bad mismatch, like he did most of the time because he was so big for a guard. I was going to go to Gervin at the end of the game, but he said, 'Give the ball to Jimmy Si and he'll get it done.' For a guy of that stature, a guy as good a player as Gervin was, to say that, you can imagine what kind of respect James Silas had with our team. When he drove to the basket he could take a hit and finish the shot as well as anybody I’ve ever seen--maybe the best I’ve ever seen. You could hit him and he was so strong and could elevate so high that he could still finish the shot. He was a great free throw shooter. It’s amazing—George Gervin led the NBA in scoring four times, but he never got to the free throw line as much you’d think he would. He had all of these tricks; he’d move under you or over you. But James Silas could draw a foul as well as anybody who ever played."
Friendman interviewed Gervin during an ABA reunion, and this is was the Iceman had to say:
"James Silas was a guy who we really went to at the end of the game. James Silas never missed free throws. They don’t give him enough credit and I’m disappointed in that, but we (the ABA players) give it to him because we played with him and respect him and a lot of us idolize his play."
The Spurs built a lot of their offense around Silas’ ability to break down opposing defenses, particularly in late game situations:
"I was real fortunate to have coaches like Bob Bass and Doug Moe who really saw the ability that I had. I don’t know if Bob Bass was the first guy to come up with this play, but it was called a 1-4 play. The other four guys lined up on the baseline in the positions that they were good at and I went to work out front. I went to work from the top of the circle to wherever I wanted to go to get whatever shot was best for me. If I was double teamed I could always find the open guy. It was an almost unstoppable play that Bob and Doug let me run when the game was on the line or for the last second shot at the end of a quarter."
Hmm. Never missed free throws in the fourth quarter, isolation plays at the end of a quarter, a guard with the ability to finish strong at the basket and a knack for passing... Who does that remind me of?
Silly comparisons aside, Silas was one heckuva player. He improved his stats every season, and in 1975-76 he ranked sixth in the ABA in scoring (23.8 ppg), fourth in field goal percentage (.519), fourth in free throw percentage (.872), fifth in assists (5.4 apg), fifth in minutes played (3,112) and ninth in steals (1.8 spg). He made the All-ABA First Team ahead of Gervin (who averaged 21.8 ppg and 2.2 apg) and didn't win MVP honor only because of the existance of Dr. J. Unfortunately, as I mentioned before, he broke his ankle landing on the foot of Nets' Brian Taylor after shooting a jump shot during the first game of the postseason.
That Summer the NBA and ABA merged, and Silas completely recovered in time for the preseason. However, the Spurs' chances for an NBA title were crushed when Silas suffered a serious cartilage tear in his knee after colliding with another player. He'd only play in 59 of 164 games in the next two regular seasons, and unfortunately he was never the same for the rest of his career, even though he was able to stay healthy after the 1979-1980 season.
In one of the many travesties I've read about spurred by the mythical need to "rebuild" after a heartbreaking loss we'll cover in future posts, Silas was traded to the Cleveland Cavaliers for his 10th and final season as a professional basketball player. The first of many star Spurs that couldn't retire in San Antonio. On April 15th, 1983 James Silas was selected to the Spurs’ All-Decade Team, along with George Gervin, Artis Gilmore, Mike Mitchell and Mark Olberding. The Spurs retired Silas’ number 13 on February 28, 1984. He was the first Spur to have his number retired (lucky #13).
One final gem from this player, in which he explains his view on how to play on offense:
"I always felt—and what guys need to understand today—you don’t take the shot that people give you. You take the shot that you want. I was good at being able to go where I wanted to go on the floor and take the shot that I wanted, not the shot that the defensive player expected me to take. Today a defender could give a guy a shot and if the person thinks it’s a good shot, he’ll take it, but I didn’t like that. If you give me a shot, even if I’m comfortable with it, I’m still going to go where I want to go to take the shot."
Showing Them How To Party
On January 28th, 1975, the city of San Antonio hosted the 1975 ABA All-Star Game. On the West squad were three Spurs: Gervin, Silas and Nater. Gervin scored 23 points and Silas 21 to lead the West, but the East dominated the game, winning 151-124 in front of 10,449 spectators in the HemisFair Arena. The coaches? Kevin Loughery and none other than Larry Brown, then coach of the Denver Nuggets. Both were among the youngest coaches in professional basketball, and reports indicate that they had long hair. Yup, Brown too. There's some history between young, feisty Brown and the Spurs fan, but I'll come back to that later.
So much 70s in just one picture
You should read more about the details of the game in Remember the ABA's throwback article, because it's really priceless. FSM's in the details: they gave the visitors so many presents from locals shops that they also had to include a big suitcase, to help with the trip home. Gervin still has his.
An extra gift for the MVP? A horse, of course. Freddie Lewis, an ABA veteran playing in St. Louis, wore a cowboy hat perched atop his six-inch-high afro while accepting the MVP award, and sold the horse to avoid shipping the horse (despite owning horses near his Phoenix home).
Terry Stembridge, the original radio voice of the team, said:
"That was probably the best all-star game they ever had in the ABA. It might be one of the best in the history of either league."
Fred Elias, a Spurs fan, shares his memories of that night:
"I remember going to see the 1975 ABA All-Star Game held at the now-demolished HemisFair Arena. I could not believe San Antonio was hosting a pro basketball All-Star Game, period. The thing I remember most was that after the game, the players were not rushed to leave the floor and go to their locker rooms. There was such a relaxed attitude between the fans and the players, that the fans were allowed to walk out onto the floor to greet and meet the players. I was one of the lucky fans to be sitting within a few rows of the court and recall just walking onto the floor shaking hands and getting a few autographs from the All-Stars. The police, arena personnel, and PA announcer never said a word."
They Loved This Game
Karl with the airball
It's important to realize how much we owe to the initial popularity of the Spurs in San Antonio, especially considering that was probably the reason it was later selected to join the NBA. The Spurs guard Joe Hamilton, when asked about the home crowd, said:
"It's just great to play for these people. They're rooting for us all the time. Last year at Dallas we'd have 600 or 700 people at our games, and if we got something going, maybe a dozen of them would start yelling. The rest of them just sat there."
That's Dallas for you. Over the course of its first season, San Antonio's attendance figures were consistently among the best in the entire league. In only 18 home games, the Spurs managed to draw more fans than the Chaparrals had during their entire 42-game home schedule in 1972-73. The Spurs ended up averaging 6,303 fans per game, which far surpassed the 1973-74 average attendance of the nearby NBA Houston Rockets, whose top crowd that season barely exceeded 6,000.
"San Antonio had a love affair with the Spurs," explains Terry Stembridge. "We had incredible support from the fans we had here," said George Gervin. "I came here from Virginia, where the support had been honorable, but it was nothing like it was in San Antonio. These people were really behind the Spurs. Nobody in the league liked to come here to play."
How important was our own version of 7 Second or Less in the creation of a fanbase? Many credit the flashy, exciting style for solifying it during those first seasons, especially considering that Gervin thrived in it. "We were blessed to play in the Arena because of its closeness. The fans being so close made it more exciting," he said. "Our fans were like a sixth man on the floor, with guys like Big George (Valle) and the Baseline Bums. People were scared to come in here and play us during the ABA days. If Big George and the Baseline Bums didn't get 'em, we'd run 'em to death on the floor. I've never seen anything like it."
There's an anecdote in Remember the ABA that simply incredible, especially considering Larry Brown's stint as a coach for our team in the late 80s, early 90s:
Because the Spurs kept breaking Denver's home winning streaks, and because of several on-court fights between the teams during the 1974-75 season, a strong rivalry developed between the Nuggets and the Spurs. Nuggets' coach Larry Brown called the Spurs a "dirty team" and yelled at George Gervin during a 1976 Denver loss at HemisFair Arena. Bob Bass got up from the Spurs bench, told Brown to shut up, and offered to fight him. After the game, the Nuggets' boss said "I don't like anything about San Antonio, their coaching staff, their franchise or their city. The only thing I like about San Antonio is guacamole salad." Naturally, the Spurs' rowdy group of fans, the "Baseline Bums," caught wind of Brown's quote. The next time the Nuggets visited HemisFair Arena, the Baseline Bums were ready. Nuggets' forward Gus Gerard remembers that: "The next time we came down there the people were throwing avocados out on the floor and dumping guacamole salad on the players. When Larry (Brown) went to the locker room, they had something like dime beer night that night, so they were pouring beer over Larry's head. That was pretty wild."
Bye bye, ABAby, Bye Bye (Okay, That Was Bad, Sorry, It's Late)
Pop stealing the show
For the teams that survived the ABA, joining through the merger was far less expensive that starting a new NBA franchise was in those days. That had been part of the plan all along, in fact. Despite this, the day the ABA dissolved was a sad one for many people. "Angelo always said it was a merger between the leagues," LaReau said of the man given a big part of the credit for the ABA's marriage with the NBA. "Never that we were absorbed or the league was dissolved. It was always that we merged with them."
"A lot of these young guys coming up don't know what we did for them," Gervin said. "They're downright disrespectful. We built things up for them; we did all the work. And I know they don't appreciate the things we did in the ABA ."
Sources:
- Remember the NBA: San Antonio
- Sports Encyclopedia
- Texas Spurs
- Spurs.com
- Taringa
- James Silas: "Captain Late" Commanded Respect in the Clutch, by David Friedman (Part 1, part 2, part 3)
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“Highsight, as they say, is 20-20.”
Couldn’t agree more, the reefer certainly gives me special visionary powers… oh no wait, that was LSD… never mind.
by the little o on Jul 1, 2009 7:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m just now getting around to reading this post, and I can’t believe that there’s only one comment on this BRILLIAN new misspelling from the man who brought us the misspelling that started it all … OTSTANDING.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you HIGHSIGHT. LatinD’s latest addition to the PtR lexicon.
Use in good health.
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 7, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I already used it in a story. :-)
Bring back Bruce!
Pounding the Rock - where young and ath-uh-letic happens.
by Tim C. on Jul 7, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
err, make that a comment.
Bring back Bruce!
Pounding the Rock - where young and ath-uh-letic happens.
by Tim C. on Jul 7, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember reading that, but I didn’t know what it was about b/c I hadn’t read this yet.
Funny
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 9, 2009 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec’d to the 37th pick, LD! This is an incredible series of stories you have going. Plus, it explains the guacamole references in the newspaper when the Nuggets play the Spurs.
by CapHill on Jul 1, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So, the Dallas fans haven’t changed much, huh?
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 1, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is masterful.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 1, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh my goodness, LD. Words fail me. You did an absolutely brilliant job with this post.
And those videos are amazing to watch.
Many, many Thanks. Recc’d to the 1999 57th pick!
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie
by bellasa on Jul 1, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LD, this is just pure genius. I feel like I’m doing one of the things that I love in the entire world – reading a basketball book. PtR is so damn lucky to have a geeky engineer like you.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 1, 2009 9:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s also refreshing to go on in here and read after the craziness that’s been happening in the other front page posts. Goddammit every Spurs fan must read this and rec it to high heaven.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 1, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, guys, you’re all too kind.
Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
by LatinD on Jul 1, 2009 9:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great post
I loved the picture of finely with salis and gervin.
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
by Manu-20 on Jul 1, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hell ya
I just heard from espn nba the lakers are leaing towards letting ariza go. This means our odds of beating the lakers just got even better.
GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)
by Manu-20 on Jul 1, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for increasing my Spurs knowledge with this fantastic post.
Keep it up, LD.
The #21 is Lord
Free Bruce Bowen! (I'm talking to you, Milwaukee)
by ddog28 on Jul 1, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Finley picture was otstanding
What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)
the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post
by Hamer_SpursFan on Jul 1, 2009 10:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Instant Classic.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
by CMoney on Jul 1, 2009 11:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, ATS. Can we put this series of posts in the Featured Posts sections? They’ll be easier to find and I think all Spurs fans should enjoy them.
by CapHill on Jul 1, 2009 11:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
Hey, you changed your avatar. What gives?
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 1, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Felt like going with another scenic photo. No real reason.
by CapHill on Jul 1, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome post. Well researched. I give you an A for effort and execution, but I have to question your time management skills and prioritization o;—-).
Since you put me on the spot, here are some old-timey anecdotes:
Random Anecdote #1
My brother had just graduated high school, and at the time, may have been the best high school basketball player in the history of San Antonio high school ball (he was the leading all-time scorer in city history). He was working as a counselor at Spurs basketball camp over the summer, as was a washed-up George Karl, after his stint in the league was over. Karl was just looking to try to catch on as a scout or assistant or something.
Anyways, my brother, Mr. High School Hotshot, challenged George Karl, washed up ex-NBAer, to a game of 1-on-1. They played to 5 or 7 or something, by ones. Karl won 7-0, and according to my brother, it wasn’t even that close. He never even got the ball; if he played off of him, Karl would just bury the J, and if he got up on him, Karl would drive around him for an easy layup. Bear in mind, my brother was a great high school player and went on to play D1 college ball.
I always think of this story whenever I hear someone say something like “Steve Nash (or insert random NBA player here) couldn’t guard me.” Those guys are really, really good, and no, you could not do anything against one of them.
Random Anecdote #2:
While my brother was working as a Spurs camp counselor, he was sent to pick up their #1 draft pick (Wiley Peck, IIRC) from the airport. Not in a company car, mind you, but in his beat up Lincoln Continental, with maroon vinyl seats. How things have changed; could you imagine the Spurs sending a random camp counselor to pick up Dejuan Blair from the airport? And the guy rolling up in, say, a 1997 Nissan Maxima, saying “hey Dejuan, over here, yeah, I’m supposed to take you to meet with Pop and RC.”
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. --Andy Dufresne
by tomasito on Jul 1, 2009 11:39 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Not in a company car, mind you, but in his beat up Lincoln Continental, with maroon vinyl seats. How things have changed; could you imagine the Spurs sending a random camp counselor to pick up Dejuan Blair from the airport? And the guy rolling up in, say, a 1997 Nissan Maxima, saying "hey Dejuan, over here, yeah, I’m supposed to take you to meet with Pop and RC.
I’ve been looking for a reason to post this, so thanks. And think of the singer as the “before”, not the “after”.
Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.
by Tim C. on Jul 1, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was horrifically awful – kinda like our 1970s Datsun 210 hatchback in high school.
by CapHill on Jul 1, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Took a whole lot of terrr-eye-INNNN” — What a fantastic mix of awful and competent! The backup singer seems to actually be able to sing, and somehow manages to find a harmony line that not only meshes with the lead singer (whatever key she’s in) but also complements the actual key they’re playing the song in. Stunning that such a thing is even remotely possible.
I love this so much I’ve just added it as a favorite on my YouTube.
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 7, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s all about using your sick days effectively. :)
Those anecdotes were great. I’ll try to edit them in later.
Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
by LatinD on Jul 1, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW! Truly brilliant post LatinD, this was awesome!
Recced to the Mariana Trench.
It is what it is.
We are who we are.
by SinCitySpur on Jul 2, 2009 12:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Dah-veed, Varner just plugged you. NICE.
Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.
by Tim C. on Jul 2, 2009 1:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ladies and gentlemen, LatinD has arrived!
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 2, 2009 6:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not the first time 48MOH has plugged LD
Just call me The Profit
by Manuwar on Jul 2, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, even bettter than the first one. You got mad skills.
INCREIBLE
"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"
by Chilai on Jul 2, 2009 5:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chilai, did you misspell that on purpose? ; )
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 7, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, I think he spelled it correct in Argentinian. Notice the capitalization! :-)
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 7, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too true. My Argentinian skills are weak sauce.
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 9, 2009 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or perhaps I should say SALSA DÉBIL
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 9, 2009 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
wowsers
if i wasn’t so bloody busy working and moving house, i’d read the whole thing. bookmarked for a quieter day.
sterling work LD…
free george hill!
by sleep research facility on Jul 2, 2009 7:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great!
Nice work LD! Very interesting read.
by Big50 on Jul 2, 2009 9:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I put off reading this novel but I’m glad I took the time. Awesome work LD.
Just call me The Profit
by Manuwar on Jul 2, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nostalgia!
That was really fun! LD, you are a true ‘Insider’. Thanks for all your hard work – it will be a great blessing to many…
Swen Nater was a rebounding machine, and could score well down low. He had great fundamentals coming from UCLA and the tutelage of John Wooden. If he was in his prime and available with the current crop of big-men free agents, he’d be the guy for the Spurs to take (and wouldn’t he complement TD well!).
Jimmy Si was incredible, and just a pleasure to watch. The 1-4 was great end-of-game strategy, and practically unstoppable. Ice took over the 1 role after Captain Late went down with his injuries. Si will go down with the likes of Mantle, Sayers, Campbell – great pro athletes whose careers were cut short by injuries. With him, the Spurs would have defeated the Nets for the last ABA title, and at least in 1979 they would have won that close ECF series against the Bullets and go on to defeat the Sonics for the NBA title.
I was at that 1975 ABA All-Star game – what a special treat that was for a kid, esp. b/c there was such incredible talent on that floor. And talk about a fast-paced game! I always remember that after every East bucket, the West would immediately inbound with a quick bounce pass out in front of super-quick Mack Calvin of the Nuggets, who would immediately set up the next fast break.
Silas was correct in that last video – those players and front office people laid the foundation for the championship teams and the special franchise that the Spurs would become. And today, it is simply the best franchise in pro sports!
by 4Him on Jul 2, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m not sure what you mean by “insider”, but thanks! :)
It’s great that you actually were able to enjoy all of these players and teams. I can’t imagine how sweet the championships were for you, when they finally came. It’s incredibly fun to read about these legendary players in their prime, and hopefully someday more people will upload their old tapes of classic NBA/ABA games.
By the way, just in case it’s not in one of the videos I embedded, Swen says Karl was there to “turn the ball over” at one point. Hilarious. :)
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by LatinD on Jul 2, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I use the term ‘Insider’ from having lived and worked cross-culturally. In using that term with you, I simply mean that even though you are not a USAer, you write and share in such a way that others (who don’t already know you) wouldn’t know that you’re actually not a USAer. It’s a true gift.
by 4Him on Jul 3, 2009 2:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, 4Him. You definitely wouldn’t mistake me for an insider if you were to hear me talk, though. :)
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by LatinD on Jul 3, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LatinD, I bet that if you would do an audio fan post, everyone in PtR would love your work and still consider you an “insider”. I’m still not exactly sure how insider means secretly not from the USA but still able to cover as one, but that word sounds kinda mysterious and cool, so I would keep it if I were you.
"He's Manu Ginobili"
by the little o on Jul 4, 2009 4:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LD, first, let me add my kudos about the excellent post that this is. This is truly a keeper that needs its own “all new PtR people must read this” kind of treatment.
Second, I want to thank you for the reminder about James Silas. I saw Captain Late a few times in my very young days and only remember him in his later years, when I was a little older and he was not the same player. But in his prime, there was no one in the ABA or NBA that was better. Quickness, ability to create a shot (either for himself or someone else), tough defender. I think the Manu comparions are more than appropriate they are downright scary. I’d never thought of it, but Manu really is the modern-day Captain Late.
The lesson from Silas that we need to learn today is this: the team, the city, the players, the fans – everyone was miserable when Silas was traded. He was the heart-and-soul of the team, in many ways more than Gervin was, even though his physical skills had certainly diminished. But he brought something to that team apart from a great jumper and quickness. Toughness, a never-say-die spirit, and swagger. Sound familiar? It should. RC and Pop, resign Manu. Let him retire a Spur. I know it will be tempting to get him off of the books. But whatever you think it might be worth, the day he is traded will feel like the worst day of your life. Like it did for all of us who remember when Bass sent Captain Late to Cleveland.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain
by spurchief on Jul 4, 2009 12:54 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
For a second there, you almost made me cry.
by silverandblack_davis on Jul 4, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn’t agree with you more, spurchief. Worst thing is, it happened with Gervin too. Let history repeat itself indeed.
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by LatinD on Jul 4, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s hard to fault the front office for trading Gervin when they did, though. He wanted out, got into drugs, didn’t play hard, etc. The Spurs at that time were a bit like last year’s Suns: a contender that had gotten tantalizingly close, but was on the downside of their arc and just falling apart.
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. --Andy Dufresne
by tomasito on Jul 5, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting analogy. I need to read more about those years.
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by LatinD on Jul 5, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks LD – that was a nice walk down memory lane…….it is good to remember that we have such a rich history with our San Antonio Spurs. First game my grandparents ever took me to was at the Hemisphere Arena. It was a great moment of my life.
"It's the ten-thousandth and one hammer blow that makes the team"
by Artis Gilmore on Jul 4, 2009 7:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I finally got to read this. LatinD, please let me add my kudos to those of the rest of the PtR faithful.
Recommended. Yes, I spelled it out the way out, to honor your great work.
My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)
by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 7, 2009 11:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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