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From Greece He Comes

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That's the Spurs for you. 'Sheed? Ariza? Those are too obvious. Who wants Pau Gasol, anyway? Nope, according to our good friends from 48 Minutes of Hell, the Spurs have offered a three-year contract to one Yiannis Bouroussis. Apparently he's some sort of mix between Archimedes, Plato and Matt Bonner. Championship, here we come!

Get to know our next European hope, after the jump.

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Okay, I'll admit it. I don't know the first thing about this guy. But then again, I'm sure most of you hadn't heard about him before today, either. So far this is what we know, thanks to Bruno from SpursTalk:

  • Greek newspapers report that the Spurs have offered more or less $10.5M for the next 3 years. But take this with a grain of salt the size of Tony's pool.
  • Pop talked to Bourousis at the Euroleague Final 4 (no, Bourousis didn't win, thankewverymuch). And we all know what a silver-tongued devil Pop can be. He's ours.
  • Bruno says that Parker called Bourousis. Money in the bank, fellows.
  • The Spurs have given him tickets to visit SA and get to know his future stomping grounds.

There you go, fellas. Not much information, really, but we'll try to stay on top of things. In the meantime I flexed my YouTube muscles and tried to find as much footage as possible on our mysterious would-be savior, so that we could all get to know him a little bit. There's honestly not much out there, but I've never let that keep me from judging a player.

In short, Bourousis is a true Spur. And by that I mean that he's incredibly boring to watch. The man can dunk, which is great, but I think I nodded off midway through one of his two-handed no-flash-but-effective slamma-jammas. Stats say he can rebound, he can shoot the three (and his jumper looks 45% less awkward than Matt's), he can post up and apparently he can even drive to the basket - all in a nonexciting fashion that should have us reminiscing about Pops' short midwinter dream, unless it nets us a chip.

Seriously, though, he looks like a solid addition. A bit slow, but strong, and certainly better than anything we've had at the 5 for years now. A few more random positives before the videos:

Let's see now what he looks like, shall we?



Camby who?

Whatever happens, I like that the FO is taking risks. And that they do it "the Spurs way".

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Great job, LD. Rec’d to where the sun don’t shine. [that means Tim Duncan’s D&D lair, you perverts]

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by Tim C. on Jun 5, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh btw, Varner does say that he’s not likely to sign with the Spurs(the Greeks like playing at home, apparently). But this is the most exciting, ‘risky’ thing our front office has done in recent years.

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by Tim C. on Jun 5, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

DraftXpress says he is interested in the NBA but doesn’t say that he is sick of Childress and Pargo stealing his team’s money and wants some of the American lootz….

Plus, didn’t you read that Pop and Parker already talked to him….?

Order the jersey now, learn how to pronounce that mess later….
It appears he is 9 on Olympiacos and 5 for the Greek team. Sorry, Ime.

by BlaseE on Jun 5, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very, very nice LD. Hey, even if he disappoints, at least we didn’t sign that Baby Shaq (Sofoklis Schortsanitis, whatever his name is) from Greece who might’ve eaten Timmeh’s lunch. Literally.

A question though… did he play for the Greek team in the last Olympics? I don’t seem to recall his name, not that I’d remember all those Greek-y difficult names that they have.

by silverandblack_davis on Jun 5, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, he did. Check out the link in the “Around SB Nation” section. It links to this post at CelticsBlog.

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by LatinD on Jun 5, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

In a 92-69 beatdown by team USA against Greece, he played 13 minutes off the bench:

3/3 FG, 3/4 FT, 9 PTS, 4 REB, 1 TO, and 3 PF’s….

4 FTA’s on 3 FGA’s is disgusting

But not as disgusting as what he did against Angola

13 MIN, 22 PTS on 9/9 FG and 4/7 FT, 5 REB, 1 AST, and 2 BLK’s….

Against Argentina,
Leading scorer off his bench with 12 pts in 18 mintues and no TO’s….Better statline that Spur not named Manu….Also better than the Rocket from Argentina…The Olympics site lists him at 7’1" and 265 lbs. as well.

by BlaseE on Jun 5, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very nice. He seems pretty efficient. Thanks BlaseE.

by silverandblack_davis on Jun 6, 2009 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Had actually heard about this guy about 3 or 4 weeks ago. Some greek guy on a spurstalk thread was talking him up, basically saying " To hell with Tiago Splitter, Bourousis is better and is actually available….." The poor guy was clowned by a few of the spurstalk regulars….saw the youtubes back then…and you are right LD. Hes not the most exciting guy to watch..nor is he the most athletic big man around.
     But hopefully his skillset will translate to the NBA well…Im thinkin instant offense on the block WITH a three point shot, solid rebounding….hmm. A conglomeration of Bonner and Drew gooden? Sounds good. Hopefully hes a better defender than Gooden,and not a choker like Matty.

by alamobro on Jun 5, 2009 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Sorry

There hasn’t been a contract offer. As Jeff McDonald points out, the Spurs can’t offer anyone anything until July 1st. The Greek report is incorrect. That’s not to say an offer isn’t coming though.

by Ankle Bones on Jun 5, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Hm, well, I imagined it would’ve been an informal offer.

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by LatinD on Jun 5, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly – Nobody said it was “official”. I’d imagine this more of a “wink-wink we haven’t offered you this yet, but we will, so start thinking about it” thing. Remember when we traded Barry, and he acted like he wasn’t automatically coming back? Same kind of thing.

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by Tim C. on Jun 5, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok but

That would constitute a violation of the rules. That would mean not only would the Spurs not be allowed to sign Bourousis, they would probably be penalized in other ways as well.

by Ankle Bones on Jun 5, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

But it’s hearsay. Just like in Barry’s case. Although I guess he won’t be flying to SA till July. :)

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by LatinD on Jun 5, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

That’s probably a reason why Tony contacted him, instead of Pop/Buford/anyone in the FO. And in the case of Barry, any agreement would have violated the rules too. That’s why they do this stuff in secret.

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by Tim C. on Jun 5, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

 But he’s not an NBA (!) free agent, no one owns his rights and he’s never been over here… plain and simple, he’s foreign and anyone is free to talk to him at any time as long as it doesn’t violate his league rules in Greece. Spurs can sign him once the moratorium ends in July.

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by JustinBK on Jun 6, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the only place where they have so many rules is the NBA. Excepting some restrictions to the number of foreign players, there are no limitations to offering money and talking to players I think.

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Jun 6, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

There’s a limit on foreign players per NBA team? Huh… never heard that before.

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by JustinBK on Jun 6, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

nope, what I tried to say is that in Europe there are restrictions to having foreign players on your roster. For example, In Russia you cant have more than 3 foreign players in the court at the same time.

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Jun 6, 2009 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right

They can talk (McDonald is wrong) but they can’t officially sign him until July 1st.

by Ankle Bones on Jun 6, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could have sworn I just read this same post, earlier today. And the news is……. he’s still possibly available to be a SPUR next season?

But I still love you LD, even if you Brazilians can’t scroll down.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 5, 2009 10:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Hmm? You mean Big50’s? Of course I saw it… I commented on it. I just wanted to add some video of him playing and wrote a post around those.

Dunno why it’s not in the FP any more…. don’t look at me.

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by LatinD on Jun 5, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh, there was no sense in having two posts about the same thing on the front page. I wasn’t expecting a second story about it when I moved it to the FP.

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by Tim C. on Jun 5, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I just thought “the more the merrier”… Ah well.

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by LatinD on Jun 5, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love you, Big50. :)

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by LatinD on Jun 5, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

The two front-page posts was a premonition of the awesomeness of this Bouroussis guy. I hope.

Should we bust out this one: BOUROUSSISDOG!!!

by silverandblack_davis on Jun 6, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

just for that alone i want Boro to have a huge role on the spurs

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Jun 6, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just removed it again. Hah! I think like rikiddo. You have been out voted LD.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 6, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks…clearly you’re the favorite though…it’s like my childhood all over again.

by Big50 on Jun 7, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Talking about basketball, LatinD, which program do you recommend for burning DVD’s?

My tapeworm tells me what to do.

by Hipuks on Jun 5, 2009 10:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Go with the classics: Nero.

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by LatinD on Jun 5, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

How come this guy is a freeagent and is able to bypass the draft? Did he already enter it some time ago? I thought that any player not in the NBA needs to declare and if they aren’t drafted he becomes freeagent material. If this guy is so good I would think someone would have drafted his rights. Someone explain please.

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by Manuwar on Jun 6, 2009 1:21 AM CDT reply actions  

I’m with you on needing an explanation here too. And you make a good comment about another team drafting his rights as well.

I’m still hesitant…… the days of us discovering some hidden gem in foreign leagues is long gone. Once we stole Manu and Tony, and other teams nabbed great unknown talents as well, it opened the floodgates of scouting and awareness of things not-NBA. Other teams and sports affiliates (hell, even BSPN) are too far reaching and too wise to ‘scouting overseas’ to pull off some coop or theft of a great undiscovered talent. Since Manu, name any other great NBA star taken by any team. (And damn you for thinking Scola; think bigger, more starry.)

I realize that no one’s making Greekie out to be the second coming of Alonzo or anything like that, but I can’t help but wonder if everyone’s getting a little too antsy over an average player simply because he’s an unknown average player. Might be one of those stories you hear about some guy’s fishing trip in which the catch gets bigger and bigger with every retelling of the story.

I hope not, but as a SPURS fan, caution should abound.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 6, 2009 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Better than two old fish that don’t fight and just jump in the boat even if he is average……

I read the comments on the 48MoH post and some stuff on DraftXpress and I think I know why he is a FA. Basically, everyone is eligible for the draft at 22 whether you declare or not. So the question then becomes why hasn’t anyone drafted his rights. I think the answer to this is that he has either directly told teams or given the impression he isn’t playing in the NBA. So the Spurs are trying to pull some of their “Come Together”/ United Nations/ Pop loves your culture/Tony is a god in France now because of what he did in the NBA/you might get an actress to be your wife voodoo to convince this guy the NBA is the place to be and the Spurs is where its at if you are a serious competitor from another country. How many championships do Nash, Dirk, Yao, etc. have? Pau Gasol might be the first player on this list that isn’t a Spur to get a chip. Hopefully it will be Gortat though. I also think there is a thing in the Euroleague where Manu is like their league’s Jordan (yes, I know our Jordan is like their Jordan) and it gives the NBA and more specifically the Spurs an edge for getting these players to come to the States and San Antonio.

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My team might get infected with a case of Bourousis, but the Dr. says the symptoms are dunking, rebounding, and blocking with the side effect of spreading the floor.

by BlaseE on Jun 6, 2009 2:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

That still doesnt explain how he could bypass the draft

Im not buying this

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jun 6, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bren, I was with you at first, but after re-reading Blase’s post, I think I have it. It seems that the issue wasn’t YB’s bypassing the draft, since everyone in the world is eligible as soon as they’re 22. It looks like the draft bypassed him.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but for international players, once the first draft you’re eligible for comes and goes without you being drafted, you’re then free to be signed by anyone. You don’t have to wait for a draft to be taken. Since he’s 25 now, then it seems to be an open and shut case.

That’s why BlaseE says,

So the question then becomes why hasn’t anyone drafted his rights. I think the answer to this is that he has either directly told teams or given the impression he isn’t playing in the NBA.

Sorry if I over-explained.

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by J.R. Wilco on Jun 6, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

exaclty, if you declare for a draft and no one selects you, then you are free to sign with whatever team you want

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Jun 6, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, exactly but with the league saying everyone is automatically eligible at 22, he was in a draft he never declared for. No teams drafted him because unlike the Spurs, most teams in 2005 didn’t want to watch a center play in Europe/Greece for 4 years or his whole career. Plus DraftXPress says in his 2005 draft report that he had only been playing for 6 years at the time since switching from swimming to basketball.

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My team might get infected with a case of Bourousis, but the Dr. says the symptoms are dunking, rebounding, and blocking with the side effect of spreading the floor.

by BlaseE on Jun 6, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

i appreciate your skepticism

by staves27 on Jun 6, 2009 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

i meant that for the sgt.

by staves27 on Jun 6, 2009 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

An average player > Matt Bonner, Fab Oberto, and (just maybe) KT these days

I’m sorry, but that’s the way it is. Now, just look at the salaries of veteran big men who have never really done much of anything above “average”, all over the NBA. Then ask yourself – if we can steal one from Europe for less than your typical “average” big man gets in NBA free-agency, shouldn’t we do it?

The risk involved here seems very mild compared to some things the Spurs have done in the past(think Rasho). It also sounds to me like Greek players don’t get offers from the NBA very often because of their preference to play in their home country where Basketball is king. But, if you can convince the best big man in Greece to play for you at Matt Bonner’s salary, why the hell not try it? And if that fails, there’s always Splitter next year.

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by Tim C. on Jun 6, 2009 2:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like your argument, you are completely right

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Jun 6, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, okay, I see where you’re going and initially thought the same thing. But is that really true? Our three that you mentioned at least know the system and culture at this point, and that’s what usually gets our newbies. The SA learning curve seems to be at least half a season; do we take the chance on substituting Bonner… with a Bonner that doesn’t know the system? I’m still confident in KT, and the brief experience was good to get Gooden going into next year. It just seems like we could be back-tracking a little here taking a risk on an average player who isn’t familiar with NBA ball OR SA ball when we already have serviceable average players. Our much more glaring need is at the 3.

And for the record, I’m not advocating keeping Bonner and Fab, just throwing things out there.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 6, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely valid points.

As for the 3 being our bigger weakness: it’s much easier to hid a weakness at SF than at C. If you get another guy to clog up and suffocate teams in the paint with Timmy, the SF’s job gets a bit easier. That’s not to say it’s not a position where we deperately need some help – but maybe the FO thinks our younger(Hairston/Williams/Nelson) guys are up to the task, and Bruce or Findog will probably be back. Between Yawn and this guy, I don’t pretend know what we would really have, but it would definitely be interesting to watch.

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by Tim C. on Jun 6, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bonner disappeared sufficiently in this year’s playoffs that I’m fine setting him aside and giving him minutes to someone to see if he can do better.

I want my Manu!

by J.R. Wilco on Jun 6, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Spaniards: Gasol was better known, but how about Jose Calderon, who was undrafted.

by 4Him on Jun 6, 2009 3:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I learned two things from that first video.

1. He’s better off the dribble than Bonner.
2. His coach looks like John McCain.

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by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 6, 2009 8:31 AM CDT reply actions  

A fist-pumping McCain!

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by JustinBK on Jun 6, 2009 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

good call my friend…

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by Manuwar on Jun 7, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

So is Childress “That One”?

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by Tim C. on Jun 7, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, dear You Tubers...

Showing highlights of wide open dunks is hardly a testament to ones basketball skills.

1. I thought the last thing we needed this offseason was to get slower
2. This would seem to point to another year of no Tiago
3. Odds are this guy is in Oberto-Land by February.

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by bren on Jun 6, 2009 8:58 AM CDT reply actions  

He dunked on one guy and on another he did the Kenyon Martin “pull yourself up on the rim and pose when you hit the ground” move. AWESOME!!

I don’t think he is slower than Bonner.
There’s almost no way Tiago is coming over this year based solely on contract status.
Could you imagine that the Oberto Youtube highlights would have looked like when the Spurs signed him?

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by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 6, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well its just like the first clips of Jianlan and Yao

Especially Yi, the only footage you saw as of him doing moves on a five foot tall coach and/or a chair…showing clips of breakways or uncontested dunks in the paint dont show anything….so we’ll see if they can sign this guy, I wont expect much….like someone mentioned above, how can he simply bypass the draft?

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jun 6, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

If this is legit, it shows the Spurs are concerned about matching up with the Lakers’ two centers Gasol and Bynum. They went big when they thought they would have to go through Shaq, then to smaller 4s with Timmy at the 5 to deal with the Suns and Mavs, and now the pendulum has swung again. The Spurs currently have a really tough matchup against those two, particularly Bynum, but I could imagine this guy being effective on him, letting Timmy match up against Pau.

It’s hard to say whether he will be effective, though I guess we just have to trust the FO.

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by tomasito on Jun 6, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here are his euroleague stats

22 games. That 3-pt% of 26 isn’t blowing me away.

The rebound rate is studly though. 7.4 boards in 21 minutes..

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by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 6, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Assuming, Of Course, That He Signs With The Spurs

Any threes are a bonus. If he can’t hit them at a good clip, then Pop’ll just tell him not to take any until he gets better, like he did with Tony. And we’ll likely get him better looks at 3’s what with the double teams that the Big Three command.

It’s the rebounds and blocks that I hope translate over here, AOCTHSWTS.

I want my Manu!

by J.R. Wilco on Jun 6, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

im concerned about defense. If he plays alongside Timmy, who defends Dirk/Aldrige/Amare/West? This is a very important question, because those players are from western teams. If you put timmeh on them you could be taking away his ability to rebound and block shots, and I dont see Borosaurus (new nick alert!!) as a capable defender of those guys.

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by Chilai on Jun 6, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

My guess is that even if he is able to guard them eventually, it won’t be as a rookie.

I want my Manu!

by J.R. Wilco on Jun 6, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wish that Yiannis, will eventualy stay at Olympiakos for 2 or 3 seasons more. He is our team’s best player, and he has achieved to vastly improve his skills. He is a very good scorer, and an excellent defender. He has to improve his post game.

I don’t think that he is ready for the NBA yet. He is the key player for our team.

by Vangelis Greece on Jun 6, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

“A big man who needs improvement” is perfect for the NBA, he’ll fit right in.

Welcome to PtR though, Vang. Good to have somebody who’d actually heard of this guy before this week.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 6, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

On “He takes his posters like a man.”

He gets dunked on his second jump. He looked quick to contest both shots and forces a good assist from the guy who drives the baseline.

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My team might get infected with a case of Bourousis, but the Dr. says the symptoms are dunking, rebounding, and blocking with the side effect of spreading the floor.

by BlaseE on Jun 6, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I found this link in the comments on 48MoH – it’s pretty intriguing, and says that the Heat are not only interested, but have also offered him a deal.

[link]

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by Tim C. on Jun 7, 2009 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I think I would have preferred Josh Childress

But this guy seems servicable. Looks like he can hit the open jumper, has some size to him, and has 6 fouls to give away. ;-)

JT

by jwt9478 on Jun 7, 2009 7:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Bourousis started playing basketball at 18 years of age-before he was a swimmer. But seeing how good he plays at the moment and his improvement over the past years,oh god he ‘s got it! Someone wrote that he’s not shooting three pointers. The past years his percentage was around 40%-check out last year stats here: http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?seasoncode=E2007&pcode=AQU . The coach Olympiacos had this year taught this guy how to play better in the paint and as a result he immensely improved overall points and rebound but had also result at his 3-pointers.
In the whole I think Bourousis is a really really good player, the best in the Greek Championship and best tall guy in Europe. But I think if he moves to NBA he’ll become a really GREAT player. I am an Olympiacos fan and hope he stays with us , but this i guess we ll know the next few days.
PS: the only thing that concerns me is the defensive part and how he’s gonna go against athletic NBA players. As past cases have shown players that move to NBA manage to improve their athletic skills. He might be considered a “risk”, but one Spurs should take.

by Kostas_Athens on Jun 8, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions  

How long does Bourousis have to sign with a Greek/Euro club now that their FA period has started? Maybe we’ll really know his intentions of coming to the US before he is able to sign a contract.

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by BlaseE on Jun 8, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

From Commentor Vangelis on 48 MoH

“Today could be a crucial day. According to the Greek press, Bouroussis has a meeting this afternoon (as required by his existing contract) with the owners of Olympiakos, the mega-rich Angelopoulos brothers to discuss the extension of his contract. The rumours are that they will match the Spurs alleged 4-year contract offer… this is how important Bouroussis is seen for the future of Olympiakos.

For the Spurs it is a case where "no news is good news". Even if Bouroussis agrees to come to San Antonio, this cannot be disclosed until 1 July so the more days/weeks go by and his contract with Olympiakos is not extended, the better for the Spurs. The good news is that the Spurs seem to be the definite frontrunner out of all the NBA teams that have expressed an interest… Bouroussis is not stupid… he knows that he will have his best shot at success in the NBA with Pop and the Spurs.

The greek sports website Sportnet mentioned yesterday that other than financial considerations he is likely to stay with Olympiakos because:

a.) He wants to complete the team’s goal/challenge of "de-throning" the hated rival Panathinaikos
b.) He is not the "type of guy" who would enjoy being away from Greece/friends and family etc.

Allow me to disagree with Sportnet. I don’t think the Spurs would have submitted an offer and wasted any time on Bouroussis if he was not willing to move across the pond. As for the Panathinaikos challenge, the challenge of being the first ever Greek player to "make it" in the NBA is far greater.

I am a massive Olympiakos AND Spurs fan and I would be the happiest man on earth if Yannis joins my beloved San Antonio Spurs. Things are looking tough at the moment but… you can always HOPE!!"

Let’s hope for no news.

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My team might get infected with a case of Bourousis, but the Dr. says the symptoms are dunking, rebounding, and blocking with the side effect of spreading the floor.

by BlaseE on Jun 9, 2009 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

How long have you been cheering for Olympiakos, BlaseE? And what’s your Greek connection?

I want my Manu!

by J.R. Wilco on Jun 9, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

*From Commentor Vangelis on 48 MoH

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on Jun 9, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Facepalm

Argh, the embarrassment!

Shoulda paid more attn to the punctuation.

I want my Manu!

by J.R. Wilco on Jun 10, 2009 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

love the video

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on Jun 10, 2009 6:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks — by the way, doesn’t “Commentor Vangelis” sound like some foreign dignitary, or something?

I want my Manu!

by J.R. Wilco on Jun 10, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes. It imparts elegance and prestige to his whole comment. Before I read it I knew it was going to change my life forever.

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on Jun 10, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

First he writes the music for Blade Runner, then he writes a comment that changes your life.

Man! Vangelis has lived, and then some.

I want my Manu!

by J.R. Wilco on Jun 10, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’ve never seen a Euro game in my life….

Does their season coincide with ours because if they play in the summer, we need that on TV?

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My team might get infected with a case of Bourousis, but the Dr. says the symptoms are dunking, rebounding, and blocking with the side effect of spreading the floor.

by BlaseE on Jun 9, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

“Allow me to disagree with Sportnet. I don’t think the Spurs would have submitted an offer and wasted any time on Bouroussis if he was not willing to move across the pond. As for the Panathinaikos challenge, the challenge of being the first ever Greek player to “make it” in the NBA is far greater." -From Commentor Vangelis on 48 MoH

Yeah, cause the SPURS don’t have a pattern of wastefulness when it comes to Greeks in the NBA, or anything like that.

coughVassilis Spanouliscough

(Google him with “+Scola” if you want a good kick to the berries)

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 9, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, we don’t need that reminder, thanks.

Free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where ochlocracy happens. Eat your heart out, California.

by Tim C. on Jun 10, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I searched for any news on Olympiakos and Bouroussis from yesterday and nothing interesting came up on Google. Can anyone else find something or are we to the point where “no news is good news”?

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My team might get infected with a case of Bourousis, but the Dr. says the symptoms are dunking, rebounding, and blocking with the side effect of spreading the floor.

by BlaseE on Jun 10, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

If we believe the report in a foreign language, from a questionable sports outlet, in an environment where atheletes regularly start rumors about themselves at contract time in order to get more money from their teams — if, in spite of all of that, we still spend a few hundred posts talking ourselves silly about a big man whose name none of us can pronounce and whose interest had never been confirmed by anyone in the Spurs employ …

If we take all of that, and put it aside; then I say, “YES. No news is good news.”

I want my Manu!

by J.R. Wilco on Jun 10, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’s all I needed to hear.

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My team might get infected with a case of Bourousis, but the Dr. says the symptoms are dunking, rebounding, and blocking with the side effect of spreading the floor.

by BlaseE on Jun 10, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’s gorgeous.

I want my Manu!

by J.R. Wilco on Jun 10, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

BlaseE, that’s good enough for you to turn it into your new avatar!

I want my Manu!

by J.R. Wilco on Jun 10, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bourossis sounds like another ailment the Spurs might develop. Sort of like “he has tendonitis” or “he developed bouroussitis”. If the Spurs in fact sign him they become a very bouroussous team.

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on Jun 10, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

or maybe he will be the thing that would kill anyone else (radiation) that unlocks hidden potential(Hulking/Daredeviling out) within us(Spurs)…..

tendinitis? thats a cheap shot

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My team might get infected with a case of Bourousis, but the Dr. says the symptoms are dunking, rebounding, and blocking with the side effect of spreading the floor.

by BlaseE on Jun 10, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

All that and I wrote “tendonitis” which apparently is the same as tendinitis but in masters of the English language cant decide which one to use.

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on Jun 10, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I found this. It says Olympiakos is offering 2 million euros tax free. The internet says thats 2.8 million USD. Clearly, we can’t offer him that after taxes but do you really think Cleveland would sign him to a 3 year deal that we supposedly will? They need to save every penny for LeBron and possibly Bosh.

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My team might get infected with a case of Bourousis, but the Dr. says the symptoms are dunking, rebounding, and blocking with the side effect of spreading the floor.

by BlaseE on Jun 10, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I stand by my NNIGN proclamation. If there’s an offer on the table from a reliable source, that details an offer Olympiakos made, and YB hasn’t signed, I’ve got to think that’s good.
Assuming, of course, that we want to sign him.

I want my Manu!

by J.R. Wilco on Jun 10, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

also, Olympiakos may be pursuing a rather interesting insurance policy. RonRon is just crazy enough to do it, I think.

-Ron Artest as a willing and interested free agent target for both Greek powerhouses this summer, Olympiacos and Panathinaikos, granted he does not find a superior NBA offer on the free agent market.

Free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where ochlocracy happens. Eat your heart out, California.

by Tim C. on Jun 10, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome to PtR, Kostas. Thanks for the insights from someone who’s familiar with Bouroussis. I hope he’ll turn out to be a solid contributor in the NBA, and if he does, I hope he’ll be with the Spurs.

by silverandblack_davis on Jun 9, 2009 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure if anyone saw but Bourousis was named Euroleague first team at the 4. Splitter was on the second at C.

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My team might get infected with a case of Bourousis, but the Dr. says the symptoms are dunking, rebounding, and blocking with the side effect of spreading the floor.

by BlaseE on Jun 10, 2009 11:35 PM CDT reply actions  

A: Who beat out Splitter?
B: Which team owns that dude’s rights?

I want my Manu!

by J.R. Wilco on Jun 11, 2009 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Minnesota…..which coincidentally would have been my last guess!

NIkola Pekovic and he has stats too. They aren’t that crazy though. I mean the guy is only playing 18 minutes per game. Splitter is holding it down for 25.

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My team might get infected with a case of Bourousis, but the Dr. says the symptoms are dunking, rebounding, and blocking with the side effect of spreading the floor.

by BlaseE on Jun 11, 2009 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

That may be so, but he’s not holding it down on the first team.

I want my Manu!

by J.R. Wilco on Jun 11, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe next year, his last season in Europe.

Free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where ochlocracy happens. Eat your heart out, California.

by Tim C. on Jun 11, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like what you just did there.

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My team might get infected with a case of Bourousis, but the Dr. says the symptoms are dunking, rebounding, and blocking with the side effect of spreading the floor.

by BlaseE on Jun 11, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, I think our FO is smart enough to learn from the Scola debacle.

Free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where ochlocracy happens. Eat your heart out, California.

by Tim C. on Jun 11, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

“Even though he would normally garner a considerable amount of interest in the first round with the incredible season he’s had, the inevitably of him staying in Europe for a considerable amount of time, along with the verbal discouragement he’s given teams from drafting him (saying that he just does not like the NBA) will almost certainly drop him to the 2nd round. " DraftXpress before last years draft….

That’s why Minnesota drafted him.

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My team might get infected with a case of Bourousis, but the Dr. says the symptoms are dunking, rebounding, and blocking with the side effect of spreading the floor.

by BlaseE on Jun 11, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m glad that he only gave them verbal discouragement. Hand motions or outright violent discouragement might have hurt his NBA stock some — unless it was directed toward/inflicted upon Mark Cuban.

Then he’d have been allright.

I want my Manu!

by J.R. Wilco on Jun 12, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

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