Free agent big men available to the Spurs

Camby

I think he’d be easier to get in terms of trades, as Sheed will have plenty of suitors; most notably Cleveland.

Channing Frye actually wouldnt be too bad, but I think the best scenario would be for Mahinmi to finally get some minutes

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jun 26, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

We can’t get Camby for the MLE (he’s $10M next year) and he’d require a trade since he’s not an FA.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 26, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

right, my point was he'd be the best fit

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jun 27, 2009 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So....

It’d be something like Finley, Mason, and Bonner for Camby? You’d still have to sign a number of players with nothing but the MLE though. It’d make the roster a little thin, but I’d be game for it.

Poor Man's GM @ poormansgm.blogspot.com

by Jaceman on Jun 30, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

camby is a waste

yes, camby is a great defensive player
BUT
why did Denver get better defensively minus Camby? Because he is so good at defense that the team over-relies on him such that team defense… sucks

Chauncey instilled discipline and a team defense that Camby could not

we always talk about offensive ball-hogs who make teams worse… Camby is a defensive hog who does not necessarily improve overall team defense… ie look at Clippers and Denver

Channing Frye has regressed… PERIOD

by SimpleTruth on Jul 4, 2009 2:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

A few big-man thoughts

What do you guys think about this Malik Rose guy? Is he a Spurs-type player, or not?

I’ll be happy with Yawn if he’s even able to just take some names this year.

I like Brandon Bass. What’s his downside?

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 26, 2009 11:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Downside is we have Blair already.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 26, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That and the Mavs will probably overpay to keep him.

"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili

by VWolf on Jun 26, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I say yes. Just keep him inactive and let him ride the bench all sesaon to one last championship with the sprus before he retires.

GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)

by Manu-20 on Jun 27, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

comon idiot .................... malik Rose !!! wtf .......... d

dont ever post for spurs blogs if you are not even aware of who malik rose is ……. freakin idiot …….
u sound like the other moron who was talkin about Rasho ……………………… do you guys ever even watch the spurs ??? see 1999 please and shut the f up

by physcopops on Jul 2, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs

Dude. Not an auspicious first post.

by Lauri on Jul 2, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea

I usually do not post but ……………….these idiots dont know what they are freakin talkin about !!! their ignorance made me do it

by physcopops on Jul 2, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That “freakin idiot” is anything but (read some other threads and you’ll understand).

He was kidding. Joking. My people call it “sarcasm.” I promise you he’s well aware that Malik used to be a Spur.

by Lauri on Jul 2, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs

My people call it “sarcasm”.

Classic.

by CapHill on Jul 2, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for responding in a funny, understated way. I couldn’t figure out how to do that.

by CapHill on Jul 2, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m just in a good mood because I’ve been laughing myself sick over this:

Moon People, an epic sci-fi trilogy by Dale M. Courtney

by Lauri on Jul 2, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OMG! This is hilarious. I stopped counting the obvious grammatical, spelling, and punctuation errors at 20, and that was just in the first paragraph! I’m surprised the spell check didn’t just spit out FAIL.

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Jul 2, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My favorite bit of imagery in Mr. Courtney’s spectacular novel is this:

you could here a mouse burp.

And as Dead Precedents (one of the Something Awful commenters) noted,

Holy crap. This guy distinguishes character dialogue by putting their names in parentheses.

Which is true, as evidenced by this timeless exchange in the novel:

(Cheral) That was sure quick. (David) Yeah I know. You know I’ve been coming here for a long time and you know we never really got to know each other that well. Do you think maybe that, David seemed to be a little nervous?

I was wondering if you would like to go out with me some time? Cheral put a sexy smile on her face and said, you know I would really like that a lot. David put a big smile on his face and said that’s great how about Friday night. (Cheral) OK (David) Supper, I’ll see you on Friday then and said bye and went on to School.

So then the post that just killed me in the Something Awful comments was this one:

Mr. Bad Guy posted:

(Mouse) Burp.

by Lauri on Jul 2, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If LD reads this, his head just might explode due to the formatting errors alone!

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Jul 2, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stunned by being called an idiot jollrogerwilco, put a very sad look on his face Is it possible? that someone has a broken sarcasmometer.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 2, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh my goodness, I hadn’t thought of that. We should start a foundation… A telethon even.

Please give to the PBWS… those poor fortunate souls who are “People Born Without Sarcasmometers”.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie

by bellasa on Jul 2, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

*un fortunate

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie

by bellasa on Jul 2, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice handling of the situation, Lauri. Two big thumbs up from me.

Now remind me again, was Malike the guy that dunked on Mutumbo or was he the pre-energizer bunny? So difficult to keep all these players straight in my head. Hmmm.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie

by bellasa on Jul 2, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh I know you didn’t just tell JRW to shut the f up. You might as well have slandered Manu Ginobili on this site. I hear this Manu guy is pretty popular. Does anyone know where he’s from? Anyway physcopops you are dead in the eyes of many now; keep to lurking.

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jul 2, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

decaf next time, please. We’re a pretty sarcastic bunch around here – jrw knows who Malik is, he’s just being sarcastic.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jul 2, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great first post. I like you already.

Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on Jul 2, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heh.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Jul 2, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay!

You got us. We are all hopping around marveling at your impudence and crassness.

Pssst. JRW is secretly SiMA. You should be setting him right. Here’s to straightening this website!

by LionZion on Jul 2, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

everyone on here knows malik rose

he’s the guy the bulls drafted last year!
ha

by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 2, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Allright, this is to everybody. Thanks for the support. I’m not going to get mushy here, but when someone calls you a common idiot, it’s nice to know that … What? But he — You’re sure? Really? “Come on, idiot?” Like that? Oh … Ok, thanks because I just didn’t get it. Weird.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 2, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There, there. You’re not a common idiot . . . you’re a very special idiot.

by Lauri on Jul 2, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks, Lauri. I appreciate it.

I’m a special idiot who needs to ‘comon’.

What I like about physcopops is that he’s a Spurs fan. That’s a good thing.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 3, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The best part about your post...

is that after you called Jolly an idiot, you then proceeded to finish out your post with improper capitalization, poor grammar, terrible punctuation, and an overall tone that makes you look like an asshat.

Well done.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Jul 2, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Every day this thread becomes more epic. Now we just need one of the big man on the list to show up and give their two cents and we’ll have everything!

I'm comfortable winning -- Emmanuel Ginobili

by pollackj on Jul 2, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Preferably Channing Frye or someone else that we have been bashing.

I'm comfortable winning -- Emmanuel Ginobili

by pollackj on Jul 2, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

recced

I'm comfortable winning -- Emmanuel Ginobili

by pollackj on Jul 2, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

rich getting richer, poor getting poorer

Brandon Bass adds nothing that Gooden and Blair cannot add

the Spurs need to keep up… Jefferson was a step in the right direction in his ability to score, now they need
Wallace or McDyess to space the floor…

Zaza and Birdman may help.. but not like Wallace or McDyess… the rest of those bigmen… are cannon fodder

by SimpleTruth on Jul 4, 2009 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Zaza Pachulia (yes, I would like him to come off the bench with Blair starting)
Mikki Moore (NO DEAR GOD NO, the celtics didnt play him even thought they needed some bigs badly)
Sean May (the bobcats dont want him, why should we?)
Juwan Howard (OLD OOOOOOLD and useless)
Aaron Gray (typical white and stiff seven footer, you can get and undrafted one cheaper)
Joe Smith (not that bad, but his rebounding is not that potent)
Lorenzen Wright (no god, HE IS DONE)
Brandon Bass (yeah right, keep dreaming. Still we have a younger and more badass version in Dejuan)
James Singleton (no please, no, i dont like him at all)
Chris Andersen (not a spur)
Johan Petro (the color version of Gray)
Antonio McDyess (I would like him yes. HE still can rebound like a madman and he has a nice offensive repertoire. YES PLEASE)
Rasheed Wallace (like Dyess, but 4 times better if he is motivated. YES OH PLEASE GET HIM DAMMIT)
Rasho Nesterovic (if he can come cheap, why not? he is incredible average and slow, but he is competent enough)
Lamar Odom (yeah right, lets sign Lebron also)
Chris Mihm (nope, aaron gray is more durable…nuff said)
Hakim Warrick (not what we need, we need a guy who can rebound and defend, he cant do any of those things)
Jamal Magloire (the heat where screaming for a center and he gave them nothing. stay away)
Jason Collins (he does one thing ok: man to man defense. WE NEED REBOUNDING DAMMIT)
Shelden Williams (Like Jason Collins but worse)
Melvin Ely (one of the worst players in the NBA right now)
David Lee (a nice player, but he cant defend worth a damn. We are not the Suns or Knicks who like to stockpile offensive players. And he is not cheap)
Chris Wilcox (Incredible inconsistent. We dont need that)
Malik Rose (no thanks, Blair is like Malik 3.0 and full of power drinks)
Adonal Foyle (he hasnt played meaningful minutes in a while, so no)
Theo Ratliff (similar to Foyle, but he did play some minutes last season. And he didnt do anything worth a penny)
Stromile Swift (he should be out of the league now)
Channing Frye (softer than a pillow. Cant rebound or defend. NONONO)
Ike Diogu (nice offensive game, but not what we need)
Drew Gooden (we watched him last year. He can produce, but HE DOESNT FIT)
Jarron Collins (worse than his brother, who is a shitty player so……..)
Paul Millsap (not available)

SO that leaves us (barring any trades) with Zaza, Joe, McDyess, Sheed and Gortat (he is a free agent also…right?). To me, Sheed is the best of all. He could make bonner expendable. Zaza is a great big off the bench and Dyess KILLS himself on the court. Gortat is an underrated player in my opinion, but after the finals he could be demanding too much money for an unproven player. I dont like Joe that much.

"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"

by Chilai on Jun 26, 2009 11:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I knew I forgot someone. The list came from an Orlando forum, so I’m sure they didn’t want to think about losing Gortat. I’ll add him to the list.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 26, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gortat

He be good a bench player. I do agree though that rasheed would be our best opition. There might be hope if that report about him being in San Antinio was true today. I wouldnt mind Rasho coming as long as he comes of the bench. My other opition would be Pachulie. He did good coming of the bench for the hawks i think he could do the same for us.

GO SPURS GO
SPURS 2010 NBA Champions (if team is healty LoL)

by Manu-20 on Jun 27, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gortat is not a fit.

Simply because he doesn’t really have an outside game. If you look at the numbers, the Magic were pretty bad when both Howard and Gortat were on the court at the same time, well, not horrible, but not great either. I don’t want Duncan operating as a perimeter PF. We need a big that can spread the floor, Sheed is probably the only player that really brings that.

Poor Man's GM @ poormansgm.blogspot.com

by Jaceman on Jun 30, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We need someone to defend the post, block shots, and grab those easy rebounds which eluded the Spurs last season. We got our extra offensive piece in Jefferson.

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Hirschof on Jun 30, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He just might be available…

"We suck on 'D. Both individually and team-wise, we suck. We're pretty consistent that way. I don't know if I have an answer to that. If I did, we wouldn't suck quite so bad." - Popovich

by Hirschof on Jun 30, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good summary. I agree with most of it, especially on Sheed. Get him and start fitting everyone for new rings. I really want Sheed on the team in the WCF against the Lakers.

I wouldn’t mind getting Gooden back if nobody else is available, but I doubt that will happen. There must have been a personality clash or something.

I would not mind Ike Diogu one bit. You emphasize rebounding and he can do that quite well. As for D, he is not a shot-blocker by any means, but he could be taught to improve his defense. I really like his offense too. Having Blair might make it a stretch to get someone like Diogu, but I still think he’d be a good get for this team.

There really aren’t any centers on the list worth a damn besides Camby and he is too expensive. The Spurs just need to go for a PF and let him play next to Tim.

"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili

by VWolf on Jun 27, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what a waste of comments

Helpful
1. Rasheed
2. McDyess

Kind of helpful
3. Zaza
4. Birdman

5 and on? Pointless

by SimpleTruth on Jul 4, 2009 2:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hah. He totally pooped all over your list, Chilai. :)

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by LatinD on Jul 4, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he did what?

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 4, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn, beat me to it.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jul 4, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

;-)

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 4, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay, it’s been a few months since we addressed this, but I’ll bite….

Realizing that the SPURS put a premium on character and community goodwill and players that will be valuable role models and players with maturity and level-headedness……

(and I’ll preface this by saying, “Yes. The thought of an SA team with Sheed lined up next to TD, TP, and RJ is orgasmic. He brings D, O, and a competitive spirit. It would be incredible to land him.”)

Does anyone truthfully believe that Pop seriously entertains the idea of paying Sheed to come lead the league in technicals in San Antonio? “Oh, Pop could settle him down.” Really? Cause I think when you’re a 35-year old man who’s made a career of being a thug, you’re not likely to change when under pressure.

I just don’t see it happening, folks.

On the other end of things, why again is everyone so down on Rasho? We don’t need a scorer, we need a tall guy and he’s always been really good at that. He’s a defensive presence, he knows the system, he’s not injury-prone, he’s not a character risk, Pop can coach him, and he has roots here. Not to mention that he’d be cheap. I’ve never been pro-Sho, but it seems like a can’t miss.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 12:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Rasho wouldnt be bad as I mentioned.
Anyways…why not sheed? After all we won a championship with Stephen Jackson as a main contributor

"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"

by Chilai on Jun 27, 2009 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not opposed to Rasho, I just think there are better options available. If we’re talking strictly in basketball terms, Rasheed is exactly what the lineup is missing right now. The Spurs put aside character considerations sometimes when they want to win, and the way RC is talking lately, methinks the Spurs are in “win at all costs” mode. (See: Jackson, Stephen; Rodman, Dennis)

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 27, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We had Jackson when he was young and hadn’t yet blossomed into the beautiful flower-thug we so well know him as today. Rodman was a failed experiment.

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We need to sign Rodman.

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 2:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

why not?

"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"

by Chilai on Jun 27, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's a giant

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was wondering what Mike Bibby does on the summer…apparently he wears number 2 on a rodman team.

"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"

by Chilai on Jun 27, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And apparently Mark Cuban balls it up too with his MavsMoneyball. Don’t cry Mark, you guys will be relevant again in 8 to 10 years.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Jun 29, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whoa…#2, seriously, is that Mini-Me, Vern Troyer? Haha….

Hi, my name is Ed, and I despise the Lakers.

by dfjmed on Jun 30, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lovin' it

we need a tall guy and he’s [Rasho’s] always been really good at that

GOL

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ay! JRW…

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes?

Whassat mean?

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I saw your Mental Conversation post and it was an absurd GOL. The post is way down on the main page though so I thought you’d never see it.

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

liked that, eh? thanks – didn’t think anyone had seen that one

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 1:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m in this camp. I recognize Sheeds talent but I don’t think it will work. I want Raho or ZaZa

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rasho had similar stats last season to when we had him.
Zaza was pretty similar.

Their PER’s were almost identical(interestingly, Bonner’s was higher) – they’re both average players. sigh. Gotta hope the FO has something else planned.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 27, 2009 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah but both Zaza and Rasho have different games than Bonner. Does PER take defense into account besides blocks and steals? I’m not sure how it could. Like you said, gotta’ hope the front office has something else planned (TIAGO!)

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That would be a dream come true, but I’m not holding my breath.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 27, 2009 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sheed isn’t really a thug. His teammates love him. He just has problems with refs and some coaches (the key is if he can get along with Pop). Yes, he will get some technicals, but he should more than make up for that with his talented play on both ends of the floor.

I am not thrilled about the idea of getting Rasho, but the Spurs could do worse and he knows the system.

"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili

by VWolf on Jun 27, 2009 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

TO’s teammates “love him” too

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

until he turns on them, they do

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sheed is nothing like TO. TO has had nasty public disputes with his teammates. You can’t say that about Sheed. He is not a locker-room cancer, but he does have a problem with authority.

"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili

by VWolf on Jun 27, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay, at the risk of repeating myself ad nauseum:

More talent is better than less talent.

That’s true 90% of the time. Chemistry, big hearts, strong wills, desire to win are all fine, but the cold truth is that the more talented team usually wins. I could see it if the player was a complete asstard that constantly got into fights with his teammates, but as VWolf pointed out, that’s not the case here. Also, ’Sheed is about 10 times the player Rasho is. Maybe 11.

We’re adding up talent with RJ. Let’s continue the trend, please.

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 2:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but, but… He’s EVIL!

image from SpursTalk

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 27, 2009 3:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, but let’s be realistic here. I think from a talent/skills perspective 2005 Wallace would have been an excellent fit. But, what did he show last year to think his talent level still remains high enough to be worth the risk? He just seemed, slow and apathetic the few times I saw him play last year.

by Neuwaldegg on Jun 27, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not to say Rasho is comparable, but that if we could get a Rasho for the veterans minimum, versus Rasheed for the full midlevel is the balance between finances and talent worth spending it all on Rasheed at this point? Why complain about getting younger all the time then push to bring in another past his prime player? I think if we’re going to overspend, it should be for someone young, reliable and with some degree of talent. Therefore Gortat and Pachulia are probably the best options. I’d prefer the former but the latter is likely more realistic.

by Neuwaldegg on Jun 27, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Getting younger is so last season…

Seriously, if we’re going to break the piggy bank and get RJ, then we’re trying to win today, not tomorrow. We’re in the luxury tax, regardless. I don’t know how much ‘Sheed has left in the tank, but he’s still the better player now, and that’s all that matters to me. I know he looked kind of apathetic during the season, but I think the situation in Detroit would affect him the most, given his personality.

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

besides he will make a lor more 3’s with all te atention on the main 4

"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"

by Chilai on Jun 27, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly. I’d feel 100 times better if we saw him taking open 3s in the playoffs instead of Bonner. In fact, signing ‘Sheed means we can let Bonner go (if we can’t already) and trade him for someone useful.

‘Sheed renders Bonner irrelevant, probably in Pop’s mind too. That’s important.

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can totally see Sheed in the Horry role of a guy with plenty of talent who just cruises until the spirit moves him.

Problem is, I’m not sure Sheed’s as smart as Horry was.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

good point. Horry kind of had an “oops” attitude when interviewed about a big shot but he really thought out the game and understood where he was useful

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

After LA won, I pulled out my ‘05 Spurs Championship DVD and watched the fourth quarter of game 7. Horry is EVERYWHERE in those 12 minutes. It’s amazing.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Awesome, cause we did the same thing 3 nights ago with Game 5 and Game 7. He was a beast those games.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Couldn’t have said it better.

I still maintain that the thought of Sheed on our front line is alluring, but I can’t escape the risk vs. reward facet. Sheed’s not a “smart veteran,” by any means, and that’s a simple fact that we can’t afford to overlook.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes he picks up stupid technicals. But that’s it. He is a very intelligent player. He knows when to pass. He has great instincts on defense (great one on one and a good shot blocker). He wont take stupid shots (in fact, he hates to shoot sometimes). This is true, of course, when Sheed is motivated. I think Duncan, Manu and Pop can and will motivate him.

"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"

by Chilai on Jun 27, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

PS- I recced you for old times sake.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hmmm, “0 recs”

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 27, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

GOL, When SiMA and JRW say “rec” they just mean their giving one in spirit. I know this because JRW and I had a mental conversation about the subject.

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Blasphemy. I ALWAYS rec when I promise to rec, it’s part of my code. The only reason I intentionally didn’t here is because of another comment by JRW pointing out the “reccing/non-reccing” phenomenon.

How dare you. I don’t throw around recs like candy at a parade.

I’m emotionally negative reccing your betrayal.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

GOL²

I haven’t laughed so hard at a PtR thread since we first started finishing each other’s comments.

I’m emotionally negative reccing your betrayal.

You can’t pay for stuff this funny.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He wasn’t lying either. I felt it

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

did you just square your GOL?

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why, yes. Yes I did.

When I guffaw as heartily as I just did, I feel myself compelled to square my GOL.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

show me the way

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

A square will appear

When you hold down ALT and type 253

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

this is awesome²

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now I know how LatinD feels when he helps someone center align their images.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

does it really?² Well sunavaslut I learned something new.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 27, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m sure there’s some list of ALT plus “some number” that shows what they yield, but I don’t know where it is, and have never searched for it.

But you can just play around with it and see what you find.

This

§

is ALT 789. I kinda like it. Don’t know what it means, but it may be my new sig.

Not really.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you can code those too: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/Advanced

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 27, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

here’s mine

http://www.asciitable.com/

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 27, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thanks, Boss

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s a Simoleon…money in The Sims (my girlfriends obsessed…I swear)

by joe20 on Jun 30, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Simoleon -- clever

Ahh. Thanks. I didn’t know.

I like it.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wish CMoney was here to emotionally negative rec, that’s always a comfort.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let yourself go

Don’t let his absence stop you. EmNegReccing knows no bounds of time or space.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You can't pay for stuff this funny. Exhibit B.

Presented from CMoney’s email to me (SiMA) on 04/17/09-

I can’t even describe how much I’ve missed you on PtR. Your wit and brilliance is a constant reminder of what an individual can accomplish when not so addicted to black tar heroin and Asian hookers. You’re an inspiration to me, and my meager existence has held little joy without your daily updates and comments about all things. I miss your smell. I miss your musk. I think when this is over, we should get an apartment together. Why just yesterday, after an afternoon of hanging from a helicopter and filming the dynamic photosynthesis of deciduous trees, I returned home eager to partake of your basketball IQ shared with the worldwide masses; and was crest-fallen upon realizing that you’ve been gone. And so you’re aware, it really hurt my feelings when you so abjectly scorned my email, when I only sent it because I’m lost…..confused……. and really needing the affirmation of a trusted male authority figure. Maybe upon knowing about my hurt feelings you can empathize with them.

Regarding the Manu trade talk, I don’t know what to say. I still cannot believe that I ever wrote that ridiculously stupid and short-sided piece. I can only apologize profusely, and attribute my poor fanship to my vices (see: black tar heroin above). I was only trying to stir up debate and get under others’ skins, a la JRW. But my skills are weak, and I’m slowly realizing this. In fact, they’re weak sauce. Please forgive me, and come back to comment and write for PtR.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Jun 29, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs

First, that was one of the most hilarious things ever posted to PtR. Top Five at the very least.

Second, kudos to you for posting it, even though it was at your expense.

Third, I’d completely forgotten about about the weak sauce meme. That was fun.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 29, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

love the Anchorman reference in the email

I miss your smell. I miss your musk.

That was when Champ was talking to Ron after he’d been spending so much time with Veronica Corningstone. The apartment line might be form the movie too but I’m not sure.

“Great Oden’s Raven”
“Hot pot of coffee”
“LOUD NOISES!”
“You’re gonna be in……..dead place”

Some of my favorite lines from the movie.

Randy Blythe, Singer of Lamb of God- "Words can be broken, so can bones....." Omerta by Lamb of God

by KA1Z3R on Jun 29, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes. I think that was the funniest thing in PTR history. Along with Manu dissing LD.

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 29, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But the bit about Manu and LD is quite revisionist, you know? Everyone seems to forget that Manu answered his questions.

If he’d ignored the post, or only answered one of the 300 queries, or just kind of laughed it off, or if he’d said, “Weirdo, find another NBA player to bother.” THEN I’d say he was dissed. As it is, LD brilliantly painted the situation much worse than it was, and no one could possibly say he’d been dissed, because he’d said it himself already.

Self-deprecation is way underrated as a defensive tactic.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 29, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks, jolly. We should all just forget about it and move on… did you hear that CMoney was hanging from a helicopter?

Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on Jun 29, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

GOL

Perfect

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 29, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I heard something about it, but can’t quite recall the details.

Did you hear about the time a certain someone mis-remembered Manu’s birthday?

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 29, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t understand what the big deal is. PtRers write things like that to me constantly. Is the joke that it’s written about someone who isn’t me? Because I guess that’s kind of funny.

ha ha

When in Rome.

Give a man a chicken and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to chicken and he'll call you crazy and question your command of the English language.

by Aaronstampler on Jun 30, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You stay classy, San Diego.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 1, 2009 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

GOL

I was just about to argue that I always reccomend when I say “rec” and then you made the mental conversation reference and I just lost it.

Hilarious.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I see where you’re going, but don’t agree. Talented team, or talented player? And either way, I can truthfully say that I believe there have been more “talented” teams in several years that we won chips. But due to our exceptional poise and strong will AND incredible cohesion, we prevailed. In 1999 for example, look at our team outside of DRob, TD and Sean. The pu-pu platter. Don’t think LA, for one, was more talented??! But that year, only 2 teams stayed through the strike and had work-outs. Only two teams in the league continued to come in early and stay late. The Utah Jazz, and us. Know which two teams made the WCFs that year? Yep. In the NBA especially, hard work, cohesion and character are enormous factors; and often even moreso than pure talent. Ask Bruce Bowen how he has still had a job over the last decade and he won’t say it’s because he’s so good.

There’s a reason we let SJax go. There’s a reason we didn’t seriously pursue Artest a year or so ago. Guys, Pop isn’t suddenly “coming around,” as Stampler likes to hopefully allude. Sheed would bring many things to the table, but it’s imparative that we recognize the bad WITH the good.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay, so if we have another strike then having ’Sheed on the team might hurt us.

Again, I don’t understand why you think ‘Sheed won’t be accepted by his teammates. Silly antics and technicals aside, I don’t remember any complaints about him.

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s because Timmy is a VERY no-nonsense player, a rare bird in today’s NBA. Timmy has little tolerance for antics and lack of discipline on the court. Timmy is our rock and our leader, and I don’t see Sheed bowing and submitting to Tim’s leadership. The team would no doubt immediately accept him, but I think after the 17th technical get very tired of “what he brings.”

I go to many games and am around the NBA in an intimate capacity. I pay special attention to the players, body language, and other little details that are missed to the casual fan. Throughout Sheed’s career you’re right, he hasn’t had teammates complain about him. But it’s also been clear to me on several occasions that there’s not a strong chemistry with him among his teammates because of the exasperation in his antics. I’ve seen “tolerance,” not acceptance. He serves a purpose and is a teammate, so those around him don’t sell him out. But that also doesn’t mean that his lack of discipline is condoned OR helpful; or that there aren’t glaring issues with a player like Sheed on a team. Putting together an all-star team, I’d select Sheed. Putting together a championship unit which is built on character and court-discipline, I am leary of adding a piece that has had problems his entire career with character and court-discipline.

Bottom line is that on the SPURS, character and discipline are put as a premium. A player like Sheed can help a team tremendously, but he can also hurt a team tremendously. The upside is good, but the downside is horrendous. With so many scorers on the squad this year, we’re looking only for a big that can play D and board down low (not to mention the obvious fact that Sheed doesn’t prefer posting up as opposed to roaming near the wing, being available for jumpers). I just don’t see Sheed as worth the risk when there’s other servicable players out there that can fill our need. The risk is not worth the reward, so to speak. On paper he’d be a great asset, but we can’t discount the potential cancer he’d be to our team’s balance and structure.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

rec’d to Timmys summer job as a computer geek

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think you’re being way too harsh, and idealizing the Spurs. The risk (things not working out, having to trade him cheaply in the middle of the season) is definitely worth the reward. Which would be a championship.

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think your argentine eyes are glazed over with imaginative dreaming and cheerleader dust. Landing Sheed is no guarantee of a chip, and if he doesn’t work out and we have to drop him mid year, it sets us back enormously in the middle of the season. Not to mention the fact that at that point, we wouldn’t have the options we have now. There’s others available to us now that have the upside, DON’T have the downside and are safer bets/lower risk.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We’re talking about potential rewards, and potential risks. Landing ’Sheed is no guarantee of a ruined chemistry and an undisciplined team, either.

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nor is it a guarantee of a championship, or a team that can play with adequate chemistry or cohesion. He can help us, but he can hurt us significantly. Rasho, ZaZa, or several others on the list don’t have that downside but still have the upside.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess my point is that I don’t think their upside matches ’Sheed’s, and considering the FO seems to be going for broke to give us another rings in the last years of Tim’s career – well, I want to follow suit and aim for the moon.

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How about we look at this through the lens of defense. The SPURS DEFENSE hasn’t shown it’s grim face in these parts in a while. I’m not so sure that Sheed’s signing would help us toward that end. And all of this week’s acquisitions, although great at getting us excited about 09-10, haven’t exactly been directed toward getting our defense back to where it used to be.

So, with this need in mind LD, are you still wanting Sheed and despite the risks? I just don’t think his defense is where we’d need it to be.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dunno. I haven’t seen Rasho, Gortat or Zaza play all that much the last season, but what I did see of them didn’t strike me as particularly impressive on the defensive end. ’Sheed’s defense is good.

Am I missing something? Are there any defensive gems on this list?

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rasheed loafs. It’s not uncommon for him to stay back on the offensive end and bark to the refs about something rather than hustle back on D. None of the other mentioned guys are defensive gems like you said but at least they can be held accountable for giving Pop-required effort

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is so huge that I’m not going to be able to quantify it.

What you just described, Manuwar, is something that simply cannot be allowed on a Spurs squad. Reading along as LD and SiMA were hashing this thing out, I was seeing both of their points, but this is really what it boils down to. You can’t afford to take plays off, and Sheed loafs.

Enough said. He’s not a Spur in my book.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The JRW has spoken.

Recced to the backcourt.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Spurs don’t loaf because Pop doesn’t let them, and reminds them at every opportunity. He’d do the same for ’Sheed.

But I guess since he’s uncoachable and semi-evil, he won’t listen, make a big fuss about it, wreck our chemistry and doom us to failure.

Guess we’re stuck with the Polish Hammer.

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha, he’ll fit right in, in Texas

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gortat would be nice, but after the Finals, I think he asks for too much money.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 27, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He didn’t loaf when Detroit was a contender. But I see your point: Who’s to say he will act differently on a contending team at this point in his career?

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 27, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just have a hard time trusting a guy (VC also comes to mind) who has quit on his team before. Nothing guarantees that he’ll do it again, but if he does, you’ll have to deal with the end result AND the fact that your hopes that he’d change have been dashed.

You can’t keep a guy from quitting on you, but if someone has a record of it, you can take less risk by not putting him on your team with a past like that.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes. Just imagine Sheed taking off his headband and throwing it in disgust of a call while our opponents are playing 5 on 4.

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

While I’d really rather not imagine it.

Actually seeing it in real life would be just too much to bear.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This IS a huge point!

+1**2

by LionZion on Jun 27, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In the US we have these douchbags that drive around in pickups that are pretty sweet with just one or two additions (maybe just a toolbox, bigger tires, nice bumper); but then they add waaaaaay too many additions/accessories and the whole thing just falls apart. The truck looks stupid, isn’t functional and is a laughing stock. It’s a mockery that we Americans giggle at as they cruise by.

I guess you could say that I’m afraid of us doing this. Yes, the FO is going all the way and doing everything possible to make this thing work, but there IS such a thing as going too far and risking more damage.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is insane

I was thinking the almost exact same thing (albeit with a somewhat different analogy) about our team.

We’re now at the point where a really good team can be enhanced to the elite level by adding a classic intangibles-guy-who-does-all-the-little-things. That point also happens to be the one where a team can capsize by trying to add one more alpha dog/SUPERSTART to the mix.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I truly see the attraction to having Sheed, I really do. But like I said, we need a solid post player that we won’t have to worry about and that can’t kill us. Just someone to maintain and be tall. I like Sheed’s game, just not the baggage that seems to come with it.

And as for using the upside (offense) of a player like Sheed, I am in the camp that believes that if Tim Duncan and/or Tony Parker and/or Manu Ginobili and/or Richard Jefferson and/or Roger Mason and/or George Hill aren’t able to get anything going on a given night, then we have no business winning that game anyway.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There’s a camp that believes that?

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I need to buy a tent and join!

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm….not quite sure where to reply in all of this mess, but anyway… I’d jump immediately on the bandwagon if this was two years ago. Rasheed would give us exactly what we need, a capable 3 point shooting big, capable inside game, decent secondary post defender, and outstanding man defending for all of the finesse 4s in the WC.

Unfortunately, even if he’s motivated it’s not clear whether he’s still capable at this point. Robert Horry stayed effective late in his career primarily on guile. Will Sheed?

My main issue is that I still haven’t recovered from the Nick Van Exel experiment. We have some potential on our front line and I’m rather inclined to sign a cheap insurance policy and throw the young guns to the wolves. If the full mid-level exception is going to someone, I’d rather it go to someone with less downside who can add to the competition of our young guys, not start in spite of their presence.

by Neuwaldegg on Jun 27, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You’re welcome to reply wherever you’d like, if you’re agreeing with SiMA and me! ; )

See, LD, I’m not 100% smiley-averse.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh and just forgot all about me even though I supposedly got you off the fence on this one.

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This just will not do

First, I find that I’m one of the reccers who don’t actually rec. Then I leave you off of the list as I claim victory over the Sheed supporters.

I’m like one of those actors who forgets all of his friends as soon as he gets famous. How mortifying. Can The Profit ever overlook such offenses? What a test of your largesse!

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You are forgiven twice over. In fact The Profit gives you this as a token of grattitude for your apology.

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what a relief

“Chickens don’t clap!”

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 28, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes. The better always wins a series. We’ve heard Pop say this before but the most talented team? No. The Suns were always a more talented team than us when we knocked them off. We were better defensively, more clutch, more heart. Those things go a long way especially the defense; and defense doesn’t require talent as much as it does desire.

Offensively I really think we have enough fire power and adding another weapon might be a burden to be honest. Especialy when that weapon is a head case. Honestly where will he get his shots? The things we’ve raved about Jefferson are not true about Rasheed. Rasheed needs to have things run for him to be effective, he’s not a clean up guy who gets his from offensive rebounds. The type of guy we need is one who will scrap and fight for every loose ball and bust his ass on defense no matter how many offensive touches he gets because with Manu, Tim, Jeff, and Tony there aren’t going to be many more shots to go around.

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Defense and clutchness are talents, too. The ability to focus on your end of the court for the entire game is a talent. I personally don’t think that our bad defensive players just aren’t trying hard enough. Manu isn’t the best defender on the team, and I know he’s always playing at full steam.

You can never have enough fire power. Never. During the postseason, many times our best shooters have gone cold, and couldn’t create a shot on their own to save their lives. Romaju, incredibly effective during the regular season, missed just about every open shot he had available in the playoffs, or at least it seemed like it. We lost because Tim and Tony had to be on the court at every second for us to be able to score, and no one was able to step up. We need talented, proven veterans, and ‘Sheed is one of those, one of the few available. I trust him to score when it matters the most because he’s done it in the past.

I’m not saying he’s perfect, I’m saying he’s by far the best option we have (maybe McDyess would be good too). Is Gortat going to scrap and fight for every loose ball? ZaZa?

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe we’re talking about a different Sheed, cause I can’t see him scrapping and fighting for every loose ball; especially if he’s frustrated about some stupid thing that’s going on at that time within the lockerroom, on the court, with his agent, etc.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was responding to Manuwar, who said:

he type of guy we need is one who will scrap and fight for every loose ball and bust his ass on defense no matter how many offensive touches he gets…

I meant that I doubt Gortat and ZaZa were that guy, either.

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess we have to agree to disagree on the talent thing. Really have we ever used “talented” to describe Bruces game? Talent usually corelates with offensive abilities. Like in football the “skill” positions are wide reciever, running back, quarter back. As far as Gortat and Zaza being scrappy, I’d say they are more than Rasheed.

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by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, I’m going by the dictionary definition: “unusual innate ability in some field or activity”.

Considering that all that separates a player from playing good defense is will and effort feels like a slight to the Bowens and Battiers of this world. Remember that article about Shane? The research he made before every game?

Ah well, it’s semantics.

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As in, not a big deal. Mountain, molehill, etc.

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by LatinD on Jun 27, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I remember the article. Defense to me comes down to desire and the ability to think out the game. Being crouched in a defensive position all game is very painful thats why so perimiter defenders can’t/won’t bust their ass every possesion. Bruce and Shanes ability to think the game seems a notch above most others and hence their success.

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by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So, what’s keeping Tony, as quick and deceptively strong as he is, from being a better defender?

Effort alone? I’m not so sure.

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not one to think he’s a bad defender actually. He has problems with screens though where he seems to just quit on the play rather than frantically chase the guy ala Bruce.

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by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So to answer your question I think effort would be Tony’s problem in some cases but like I said I don’t get down on him as much as others for his defense.

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by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I particularly remember a game against Orlando this season when Tony was continuously making the same mistake in trying to go under screens, but he didn’t try anything different, and eventually started not trying at all.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
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by Tim C. on Jun 27, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tony “started not trying”? Man, that’s just as bad as if he’d stopped trying.

We’d better trade the fool before he tears the team apart with that bad attitude!

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I imagine you saying this just after you’ve whipped off your horn rimmed glasses and as you pound your hand on the sturdily constructed mahogany desk.

Somewhere, over your shoulder, an eligible female reporter inwardly remarks on your passion and savoir-faire. Off in the distance, a dog barks as the clock tower strikes twelve.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Off in the distance, a dog barks as the clock tower strikes twelve.

I love this shit

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by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And I have a pipe and soft cloth robe, while all the while stroking a white-haired kitten.

That’s pretty spot on, really.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

BTW, SiMA, I’m thinking of adding “IMPARATIVE” to the list.

Would that be your first contribution? If so, it’s a done deal.

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I gotta be honest with you…. my original comment that spawned all of this is so damn far up there, and there’s so many different branches between there and here…..that I don’t even know what you’re referring to. List? Contribution?

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s been suggested by some PtR regulars, that we create gather together all of the favored misspellings (OTSTANDING, AMAZINE, etc) and create a post for posterity, and for the purpose of pointing newbies too. It is to such a list that I was considering adding your recent contribution, “IMPERATIVE”. As in —

Sheed would bring many things to the table, but it’s imparative that we recognize the bad WITH the good.

Comprenez-vous?

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ahhhh, now I get it. You’re mocking my misspelling, done hastily while out of town on business and on IE (which doesn’t identify bad spelling). I feel so…..so……exposed and vulnerable now.

Honestly, I don’t think it has teeth. It’s not as dramatic as others and doesn’t seem as impressive. Give me time and I’ll accidentally give you gold, I assure you.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

First, I’ll be patient and wait for the gold.

Second, I’m not mocking your misspelling; I’m attempting to immortalize it. There’s quite a difference, as I’m sure you’ll agree.

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 28, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ummm, the Spurs played ’Sheed’s Blazers in those WCF, who had beaten the come-early-stay-late work hard Jazz.

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by tomasito on Jun 30, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes they did, and it produced The Memorial Day Miracle, in fact.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 30, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Um, because he wasn’t that great when we had him and he’s worse now. That’s what I would say. He’d be like 1/8th as good as Sheed in our system. I would be cheap. Pop could coach me. You are cheep. Pop would call you cheap.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 3, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, so there’s almost 6 days and 150 posts between your reply and SiMA’s comment which you were replying to.

They weren’t kidding when they called this thread epic.

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 3, 2009 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It took him that long to find his glasses, amble over to the keyboard, and read it.

I would respond, but I’m suddenly terrified of being referred to as a ‘common idiot.’ And to think, I was going to suggest that we go after Rasho……..or Frannie Elson, or that hot young veteran Kurt Thomas.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 3, 2009 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

character and talent

Mcdyess gives character
Wallace gives talent

The plus… is that Duncan and Popovich will discipline any bad boy who comes their way

by SimpleTruth on Jul 4, 2009 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What about a sign and trade for some center like DeAndre Jordan from LA or Etan Thomas from Minny? Kind of random names….

You’re missing Dwayne Jones on your list. I have no idea who that really is but Varner mentioned him as a possibility.

Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?

by BlaseE on Jun 27, 2009 1:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If Larry Brown won’t play him, I doubt Pop is impressed enough to go along with that.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
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by Tim C. on Jun 27, 2009 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Larry Brown has a lot of big guys we don't have though....

Okafor, Diaw, Diop, Nazr, Radmonovic is 6’10", Ajinca

Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?

by BlaseE on Jun 27, 2009 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what about Diop? he is awful offensively but he sure can defend

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by Chilai on Jun 27, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Diop isn’t a free agent.

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by VWolf on Jun 27, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

im talking about a trade. Im pretty sure the Bobcats dont want him

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by Chilai on Jun 27, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Spurs window is closing.. the time is NOW

Shaq and Duncan need to win NOW
other than Sheed, McDyess, Zaza and birdman… no one will really help. They need to do something big or else they shall eventually lose Duncan and Manu through age…

by SimpleTruth on Jul 4, 2009 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

DeAndre Jordan would 6th in blocks per 48 if you only counted people who played at least 14 minutes.

Above him: Andersen, Turiaf, Joel Anthony, Brendan Hayward, D. Howard

Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?

by BlaseE on Jun 27, 2009 1:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

not saying we have a chance at him or anything but for the record I really like Joel Anthony

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by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

do you like him? is he a good person? because he SUCKS at basketball: cant rebound, cant score and his defense doesnt make up for it.

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by Chilai on Jun 27, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like his defense

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by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but he has two first names

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

better than 3.

[Mike Dan Tony]

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
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by Tim C. on Jun 27, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or Phillip Michael Thomas

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Same person I've been wanting even before the season ended

Antonio McDyess. He’s still a great rebounder. He still have a good offensive game so that’s an improvement over KT last year. But what’s overlooked is that he is still a good defender. Not great, but he’s better than nearly everyone on that list. People aren’t really seeing what he’s got because of how bad his team was last year. Playing for the pistons is not a good way to become an attractive FA. He probably wants one more ring and SA is the best place to do it that would want him. Plus he’d probably be cheap, which leaves room to get a good bench built.

Please Buford, sign McDyess day 1 of free agency.

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by KA1Z3R on Jun 27, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He’d be a good fit. Ever since KT, Bruce and Fab left, there’s an abundance of “Old Man” parking spots available now at the players’ parking lot.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we need to refill our geariatric

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by Chilai on Jun 27, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

It’s funny to laugh at his age, but I DO like McDyess. And not just b/c my last name is in the middle of his.

He’s my pick of this litter. He has just about everything we need. Good defense, good rebounding, good mid-range shot, good attitude and good goodness.

Please, Santa, I’ve been so nice this year.

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Your last name is Cdyes?? Sounds like it belongs somewhere

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by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

NICE

You need to remove one more letter from each side.

BTW, I did eventually see your original reply to the mental conversation — you were right, it’s way down the main page and tough to find.

Did you see my reply?

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha nice play on the rec

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by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ATS had one as well that I completely missed yesterday. And I just now realized that he’d done it to tweak CC’s misspelling.

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I saw that and totally didn’t catch it. ATS you sly dog

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by Manuwar on Jun 27, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sheed is a good defender too.

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by VWolf on Jun 27, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

McDyess is a commited player and good defender and smooth offense too. Well at least coupla years ago. Can’t remember him from last year tbh.

Only problem is, he’s always been stuck on the “Wanna get championship with Deetroit” bus. And from his playoff runs, he hasn’t publicly shown much love for the Spurs. And its not about money with him. So who knows.

by LionZion on Jun 27, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah but he knows Detroit's not going anywhere

not with the East getting to be so good. The pistons are in a decline while the Spurs are starting to become a real threat to LA.

The reason a lot of people are saying he isn’t good anymore is because of the fact he played on a horrible Detroit team. That team made Prince and Hamilton not seem good. McDyess still can still hit his mid-range jumpshot, he’s still as tough as they get when it comes to rebounding, and his defense is better than anything we’ve got on roster.

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by KA1Z3R on Jun 27, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Besides, wouldn’t it be great to get a big who’s known for his jumpshot, and actually see him deliver in Silver and Black?

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah mcdyess would be great.

he was the only piston that actually tried against cleveland.

13 points in 39 seconds. Enough said.

by Duhoh on Jun 27, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm. Does that include Sheed? Maybe McD was so good and attempted so hard in that series because he got along so well with Sheed. Maybe because Sheed was such a good teammate, it motivated McD to try extra hard.

I’m sorry, LD. It was just too easy.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The spurs will sign Sheed and you all are going to be licking his balls when he nullifies Gasol in the WCF and then he makes KG cry on the Finals (sorry orlando and cleveland, Carter and Shaq are not real winners at this point)

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by Chilai on Jun 27, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’d take all of that (except for the ball licking part) if that’s what happens. I’m just dubious at best, right now.

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, not sure either about the ball-licking part. But if we land him and he carries us to another chip, I vow in my humility to send you some SPURS gear that will astound you. And I’ll publicly apologize and ask forgiveness from the PtR community for being misguided and overly cautious.

But if we sign him and he self-destructs to the point that there’s serious trade/release rumors mid-season, you have to publicly mock and ridicule Evita.

It’s a deal.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love how you both a) make the offer and b) treat it as thought it’s been agreed upon with an authoritative “It’s a deal.”

What a pushy little p3k.

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 28, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can ridicule Evita right now if you want. I’ve never liked her or his husbdand presidency

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by Chilai on Jun 28, 2009 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How old are you? You were around in Evita’s time?

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by LatinD on Jun 28, 2009 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And who do you prefer from Peron’s first presidency’s time? The military? Which of Evita’s deeds don’t you like?

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by LatinD on Jun 28, 2009 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And if the answers are too spicy, just e-mail me instead. ‘Cause I’m really curious.

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by LatinD on Jun 28, 2009 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Basically, one of the only times in our history when we could have done big things with all the money coming from feeding the world at war was wasted creating a lazy culture on our population by handing houses and things for free. Add our usual corruption to the mix and its not very hard to explain why devastated countries like germany and Japan came back to be world powers while we are constantly fighting to escape the third world. We had a big chance and Peron and Evita blew it trying to apiece the crowd.

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by Chilai on Jun 28, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm. The parallels are interesting.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 28, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heh, I knew you’d chime in on this one. See, they argue about the same shit we do!

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by CMoney on Jun 29, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hm. Well, this probably doesn’t belong here, but the development of the sciences, education and industry was unparalleled to this day, and that’s beyond all the populist decisions they made (like allowing women to vote – who wants that?). And that’s ignoring that Evita’s role was much more limited, and mostly dedicated to supporting her husband and setting up welfare plans for the poor.

I’m not a big fan of Perón, mostly because of what he did in the 70s during his short and terrible third presidency, allowing the AAA to be created and thus setting the scene for the atrocities of the Dictadura, but his first presidency was probably the best period of this country.

Regarding Japan and Germany, it’s ridiculous to think they recovered from the war solely because they’re “not lazy” like us. Germany was split in two and the Western half became the theater for the US and the rest of the capitalist European countries to show off their economic bonanza. The Russian-backed half didn’t do so hot, and they were just as German. Oh, and by the way, Germany is in Europe, surrounded by European countries, and Argentina is not.

I’m a big fan of the Japanese culture (I actually study Japanese – but it’s too hard for my feeble mind), and I do believe their millenarian work ethics did help them during the recovery process. But you simply can’t ignore the billions and billions of subsidies and economic aid that Europe and mainly the USA provided – I imagine that to some degree because of left-over guilt over Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And if we need to adopt their culture to succeed, I sincerely prefer to be stuck in the Third World.

Anyway, this is a bit senseless. I just dislike character attacks. Especially from a countryman, when the awareness of Evita, the Peronismo and just about anything related to the Argentinian culture is limited, overseas, to “Don’t cry for me Argentina” and “Maradona”.

Please excuse my off-topicness, guys. And sorry if I sounded judgmental, Chilai. Just an opinion, on a shitty election day.

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by LatinD on Jun 29, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dont want to start a full political rant, but I like your points. Still I’ll stick with my opinion, because the cultural influence on that presidency to me was devastating. Basically hallf the country thought “well…working is for losers!”. Maybe we were like that before, I dont know, but Peron sure didnt help.
And yes, we could use some japanese culture. Not tentacle porn or retarded TV shows, but the work ethic? give me some
Ill leave it at that, I dont think this is the place for a discussion like this.
PD: I agree that its a shame all that is known about us is Madonna’s Evita and Maradona.

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by Chilai on Jun 29, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no hard feelings bro! Manu still owns Kobe and lebron

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by Chilai on Jun 29, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don’t get me wrong, I admire their work ethic, their respect for the elderly, their defense of their own culture and traditions, and many, many other things. But there’re some negative aspects that I couldn’t endure, like their blatant disrespect towards women, the racism, etc. Besides, the other side of that work ethic coin is the undue pressure that is put on the children to succeed or become complete failures, the same pressure that leads to mass suicides and hysterical breakdowns. If you’re ever bored, google “hikkikomiri” to learn about a psychological condition that exists only in Japan. It’s eye-opening.

Anyway, Manu totally owns those losers. We’re still so on for that beer whenever you leave that tiny town and come to the big city, right? We really need to get together and slander all the other PTR regulars!

By the way, I hope you don’t mind if I bring my buddy “El Tula” with me. …Just kidding. :)

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by LatinD on Jun 29, 2009 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

..or you can come to my tiny town, we have good beers here :)

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by Chilai on Jun 29, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Certainly. Someday… :)

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by LatinD on Jun 29, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Questions regarding Argentina

I recognize that some latin countries take siestas (midday naps) in order to escape the heat. I witnessed this when I traveled to both Spain and Mexico. Is this also the norm in Argentina too? If so, do you think this inadvertently breeds laziness?

I’ve noticed that the culture in America embodies more of a live to work mentality, long work days, often working from home on weekends with two weeks of vacation a year. Where as European and Latin cultures seem to employ a work to live mentality instead. It’s also worth noting that many Europeans take an entire month of vacation at a time. I’ve heard some experts point to this as to why Europeans live longer and less stressful lives than Americans. What’s your take?

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by CMoney on Jun 29, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let’s check the facts first:

Siestas are popular in the country and smaller towns, but don’t exist in the big metropolis like Buenos Aires. That’s the norm in Spain, too, and I imagine no one takes siestas in Mexico’s DF. The number of work hours are usually the same, though: they simply wake up early in the morning to compensate those hours of naptime.
Most Europeans take an entire month of vacations, that’s true. Personally I think it’s only natural, and I’d love to live in France, where I understand the vacations can extend to 45 days (15 without pay). That’s not the case in Argentina, where for the first five years since you start working in a company you only have 15 days of vacation. Then 3 weeks till the 11th year, and then finally the full month. (In my case, I’ve recently started working for an international British company, so I get to enjoy a full month, as per their labor laws. Yay!)
Argentina covers parallels 58° to 20°, so as you can imagine the full range of climates can be found here. Siestas are common just about everywhere outside of the big cities, so I doubt the midday heat is their sole cause. Maybe originally that was the case, but nowadays it’s simply a cultural standard.

Does it breed laziness, though? First of all, the laziness Chilai referred to (and please correct me if I’m wrong, Chilai) is that of the people who see their president as a sort of father figure that should act as their savior, or maybe as a messiah that will right every wrong. He thinks that attitude is what breeds a sort of lackadaisical approach to work – what we call “chantaje”.

That said, considering siestas are far more common in rural areas and small towns, I think it’d be ridiculous to think they’re lazier because of them. In fact, in my experience working in a farm tends to be much harder than anything we suffer in our cushy office jobs in the city. So, do siestas breed laziness? In my opinion, no, they don’t.

Do we have a “work to live” mentality? Well, I do. I can’t speak for everyone else, but I find it very sad when people are defined by their jobs. I consider it only logical that longer vacations are a more sensible separation between work and social life would increase our lifespan.

If we don’t die from swine flu or something, that is.

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by LatinD on Jun 29, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep, that was what I meant. It seems that we are expecting our goverment to do it all, to give us money for nothing (“and chicks for free”) and to solve all our problems. When they dont do it, we just complain and complain and find ways to skip work and school….even the politicians do it all the time (I remember that when De la Rua assumed it was considered a holiday WTF?!?!)

To me the thing that defines the argentines better is this: we always work and live in a “patchwork mode”. That’s a blessing and a curse. Its a blessing because we can get out of difficult situations better than ANY country….but then….we continue and continue to fix everything in a superficial way. The average argentine lives like this, and our goverment is composed of them……
In other words, most of us are a bunch of “chantas” who know how to survive, but not to make deep changes.

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by Chilai on Jun 29, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

“Lo atamos con alambre”, hah! :)

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by LatinD on Jun 29, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

“We tied it with wire”

I love idioms, but I don’t understand this one.

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 29, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"We tied it with wire"

Hm. It’s not translatable, but it means something like “(we fixed it) using wire to fasten/tie it”. It’d be kind of like: “We fix it with duct tape”, a reference to our custom of fixing everything superficially.

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by LatinD on Jun 29, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now that you explained what Chilai meant by laziness I see what you guys are talking about. Initially, I took the word too literally in regards to the nation being lazy/unproductive.

This is a similar debate that occurs in the states in regards to welfare, affirmative action and most recently, government bailouts. I’m a political junkie and I love hearing arguments from different sides; especially from different countries. Thanks for sharing.

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by CMoney on Jun 29, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

EXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXACTLY

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by Chilai on Jun 30, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I want everyone to see that I’m consciously abstaining from saying the obvious here. It’s a big step, but you’ve all made me so much stronger.

Point SiMA.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 29, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hah. You’re maturing, SiMA. You’ve really come a long way since your days of verbal incontinence.

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by LatinD on Jun 29, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

“verbal incontinence”, haha

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 29, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That makes sense. Even though I’m a political junkie, I often have to plead ignorance about the political vs. cultural friction that occurs in other countries. Thanks for the education!

by CapHill on Jun 29, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wait, you’re a polictical junkie too?

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 29, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes. There seems to be an overabundance of both engineers and political junkies on this site. How many sports blogs can say that?

by CapHill on Jun 29, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow LD and Chilai…reading your discourse and how you answered C’s questions, I am now officially confused if I live in the same country as you do. It’s just too similar, really.

And oh, I love siestas. I proposed to my bosses here at work to have a sleeping room where I can retire off to after having lunch, but they promptly shut me down and cut off 20% of my salary. Just kidding about the salary part.

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by silverandblack_davis on Jun 29, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I also have asked my bosses about adding “naptime” to the official timesheet. They didn’t go for it, although I can’t complain too much, as they let me take an extremely long lunch the first Thursday of March Madness each year.

by CapHill on Jun 29, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

“extremely long” as in, you came back on Monday?

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The “Europeans live longer because we take longer vacations” is just to appease their superiority complex toward the US. There’s no evidence to support it. The US average life expectancy is roughly 78 the EU average is slightly higher than that with France being the highest at around 80-81. A whole 2 years… When you consider that Japan and Singapore at higher than both at about 82, the logic completely breaks down considering the emphasis on work discussed further down.

Basically, there are lots of factors that play into life expectancy. Within the developed world most are marginal. If you’re going to narrow it down to one, diet and exercise is the most likely cause of the 2 year difference.

by Neuwaldegg on Jun 30, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry

Did the numbers off the top of my head, and realized I could probably find this easily on the internet. Recent projections can be found here. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html

by Neuwaldegg on Jun 30, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

A whole 2/3 years seems like a lot to me, statistically speaking. Regardless, I’m sure there are many other factors, but it’s only logical that a reduced work load leads to less stress and a better quality of life.

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by LatinD on Jun 30, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Except that I’m not sure that’s logical. If it were, no one would work. I could very easily argue that the US has a better quality of life because it has a 15000 dollar higher GDP per capita than France, because individuals spend more time working than going on vacation. More money = greater happiness and less stress.

Anyway, my point is that these arguments are pretty much impossible to prove, and are usually made just for political reasons.

by Neuwaldegg on Jun 30, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Uh, you think people work because they want to be healthier? When I say vacations, I mean paid vacations, not living under a bridge. Sorry, didn’t follow you there.

But yes, it’d be very difficult to prove. People still discuss global warming, so I imagine the effects of vacations on life expectancy estimates will never be solved.

Me, I’m all for vacations. Hell, if I could, I’d quit my job and just dedicate my life to studying. But maybe that’s just me, and some people love to work every day, 9 hours per day, for the rest of their lives. …For some reason.

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by LatinD on Jun 30, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

9 hours?

weaklings.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
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by Tim C. on Jun 30, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

man, im glad I still have 3 years left of university

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by Chilai on Jun 30, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If someone loves their job, why not? Nevertheless, most people work to produce so as to bare the fruits of their labor. The more you work the more you produce. Therefore allowing you to more greatly fill ones needs and desires. Which is a clear, reasonable justification as to why working is perhaps healthier than not working. Although the point was really just to show different reasoning, not to foster an argument.

As for getting paid to not work, that brings us back to your original argument with Chilai, which I don’t want to get into. Although I do think most people would agree with you that it is less stressful for the individual.

by Neuwaldegg on Jun 30, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, I’m sure McDyess is everything you hope he will be, a true Spur. Good character, professionals, respectful towards the refs and down-to-earth. You don’t want to mess with the magic we have going on in the locker room, that delicate balance that makes or breaks a team and keeps them from winning championships.

You know, like what they have in Boston, with Rondo, Pierce, KG and Allen. Or in Los Angeles, with Kobe, Vujacic, Bynum and Jackson. Talent is overrated – people should really focus on chemistry, and I hear McDyess is uber gregarious.

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by LatinD on Jun 28, 2009 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

*smiley smiley

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by LatinD on Jun 28, 2009 1:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

One of my favorite developments of the last couple of weeks is Rondo’s head growing so large that it needs it’s own zipcode. I couldn’t be more pleased, really.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 28, 2009 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

McDyess and Rasheed… the way to go… the ONLY way to go.

If San Antonio loses the Rasheed sweepstakes… then MycDyess is the way to go

by SimpleTruth on Jul 4, 2009 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i dont think having sheed would hurt the spurs any.

unless he wants too much money.

13 points in 39 seconds. Enough said.

by Duhoh on Jun 27, 2009 9:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I started out with a very clear frame of mind regarding Sheed before this post. Now at the end, I am all flummoxed in my feelings regarding ‘ball dun lie’.

If only we could somehow know if he will play hard, then its a no brainer.

by LionZion on Jun 27, 2009 10:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

this is why I’m so glad that I don’t have RC’s job. That and the fact that his last name is even weirder sounding than mine.

“Buford! Dinner’s ready. Make sure you bring in the hound dogs this time. You know what a mess they made in the chicken coops last week when you forgot!”

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 27, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What? You think “DIIIIIEEEEE!!, Time for dinner!!, Diiiiiiiieeee,” is weird?

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 27, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

GOL.

At least spell it correctly, why don’t you!

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 28, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

your driver's license must be cool looking

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by KA1Z3R on Jun 28, 2009 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but of course

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 28, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

GOL

epicness.

Randy Blythe, Singer of Lamb of God- "Words can be broken, so can bones....." Omerta by Lamb of God

by KA1Z3R on Jun 28, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

GOL**2!

by LionZion on Jun 28, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m with you, LZ. There are so many tangents to this thread, my head is spinning. At this point, I’d just take some depth at the 4/5 positions. I’d be more inclined to take McDyess over Sheed, due to the fact that Sheed is bat-shit crazy. However, Sheed is not Tom Cruise Crazy, so it could possibly work. So many words to say I’m on the fence.

by CapHill on Jun 28, 2009 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tangential Glory

The thing that made this thread so amazing was how fractured it was while maintaining a semblance of coherent thought.

I was on that selfsame fence, Cap. Come over to the McDyess side, together we’ll rule the NBA as … never mind. Just avoid the Sheed for now. That’s all.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 28, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Since you asked so nicely, consider me off the fence. McDyess is the more consistent effort player at this stage in their respective careers, and that’s probably better for the Spurs. Besides, this means SiMA and I are in agreement again, and I want to see if the world will explode as a result. ;)

by CapHill on Jun 28, 2009 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Matter and antimatter, eh?

And, no, I didn’t center it!

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 28, 2009 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

welcome to the McDyess side

you have your barbecue grill over there. My dog Speedy is running around here somewhere. The pool’s over there, in ground and heated. I know, I spoil myself. Feel free to go in the house if you want just don’t go near my room. >=(

Okay, anywho…….Enjoy yourself and how do you like your steak?

Randy Blythe, Singer of Lamb of God- "Words can be broken, so can bones....." Omerta by Lamb of God

by KA1Z3R on Jun 28, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

From Charles Rosen today-

analyzing several available players this off-season:

Rasheed Wallace: Can shoot treys, post up some, and play long-armed defense. But his off-the-chart impetuosity has ultimately proved to be toxic wherever he’s played, so he needs to join a team that either has a no-nonsense coach who has the credentials to demand discipline, or a ball club that features a forceful and inspirational player.

If Gregg Popovich could convince and/or cajole Rasheed into fitting the Spurs mold, then San Antonio would have the perfect complement to Tim Duncan.

He mentions other destinations for Sheed as well, but SA first, and that is somewhat telling. We’ll see.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 28, 2009 9:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Are you turning on Sheed? … Well, are you?!?!???

I’ve got to admit, I’m still against it, but if Pop and RC pull him into the fold, I’d probably turn immediately; simply out of trust for them, and the possibility of how awesome it could be.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 28, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh no, I’m still optimistic but cautious about Sheed. Still the resident realist/doomsdayer (behind CC, that is).

Just commenting on what the national media is saying. Apparently (which is not often true about SPURS rumors) this one has some teeth. And goodness, if Timmy and Sheed were having ice cream in SA together just this past week……….well, there must be something to it.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 28, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Waaaait a second. You’re saying that that guy in the rumor someone posted about early this month, that we thought was about Bouroussis… that it was ’Sheed? You think he might look foreign because of his crazy, crazy grin?

You just blew my mind.

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by LatinD on Jun 29, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just peed myself

"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"

by Chilai on Jun 29, 2009 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They have products for adult incontinence, you know.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 29, 2009 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow Charley Rosen

Us “normal” people would never have been able to notice what you just wrote.
Sheed and McDyess all the way.

by SimpleTruth on Jul 4, 2009 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Man, this post just absolutely exploded this weekend, didn’t it?

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 29, 2009 1:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

154 new comments…..
Can we just put it to a vote?

Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?

by BlaseE on Jun 29, 2009 4:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You’re not switching back to your pre-trade avatar, are you?

It’s not that the new one isn’t awesomeness itself. I’m just still getting used to you as a goffy-faced Bowen.

I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 29, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

probably not until his fate is decided…

I probably won’t go back to Rasho destroying Arenas’s face though. At some point, you just have to move on.

Did we really just add a player good enough to be guarded by Bruce Bowen?

by BlaseE on Jun 29, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with that. But I have to encourage you to stick with your sig for a good bit, though. It’s awesomeness itself.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 29, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

timvp over at ST has an opinion, and he basically has the same top 2 as we all do. I’d be happy with either one.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 29, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Charlie V please.

AKA: Linix129

by sw12 on Jun 29, 2009 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

My two cents

Alright, I’ve read many of these posts(not all of them, I am at work) and I tend to agree with SiMA about Rashweed. However, I disagree completely about Rasho. Why would we want to get a slightly bigger, slower and less athletic version of Oberto? No thank you.

There are two guys I wouldn’t mind seeing. Anderson, he is a great off-ball defender and a super rebounder. Not so much good at on ball defense. McDyess, has good range, solid rebounder and solid defender. He is old…and possibly too pricey. (Oh, and they’ll both dunk the ball to make LD happy)

by Big50 on Jun 30, 2009 9:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hear hear.

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by LatinD on Jun 30, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

According to Jason Quick of the Oregonian, the Portland Trail Blazers aren’t going to make a qualifying offer to Channing Frye, making him an unrestricted free agent. I don’t know much about Frye, but he seems to have the size we covet (6’11"), and hasn’t gotten much playing time for the Blazers for the two years he’s been there. He could be hungry, and he also went to Arizona, so there’s the camaraderie aspect with Jefferson and (possibly) Williams. Thoughts? Should the Spurs take a look? Is this guy any good?

by SpuroftheMoment on Jun 30, 2009 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He’s also only 26 years old. Could help the Youth Movement as well…

by SpuroftheMoment on Jun 30, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he hardly played in portland, especially against houston.

but then again, if you have LMA, Oden, and Pryzbilla, you’re prolly not gonna get too much playing time anyways. even in garbage time.

13 points in 39 seconds. Enough said.

by Duhoh on Jun 30, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I noticed “career stats-wise” that the guy only played 11 minutes or so a game last year. Not really much you can do when your playing time is that limited. If he’s no good, he’s no good, but he was behind a hell of a rotation last year. Maybe he really can play, and he just hasn’t gotten the chance?

by SpuroftheMoment on Jun 30, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He kind of sucked when he was on NY

If he really were worthwhile I don’t think Kevin Pritchard would have drafted like 2-3 power forwards and let him walk. They still don’t have anyone to play behind LMA.

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by Jaceman on Jun 30, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

To be fair, it’s NY.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Jun 30, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True, true, true. I live in Portland and Frye is a big softy. He’s a 6’ 11" shooting guard. He rarely ventures inside on offense and on D he just gets owned in the post. With his tools he could be a lot better, but I don’t think the desire is there. If we want a CF who does not rebound or defend well and likes to take a lot of jumpers, Frye would be our man.

Even though he is much more athletic, he plays kind of like Bonner, and not even as well as him.

Unless there is some way to break through to Frye and get him to actually play basketball, the Spurs should look the other way. IMO he is only worth the minimum, and someone else will probably pay him more than that because of his height and athleticism.

"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili

by VWolf on Jun 30, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I concur. Even the guys at Blazers Edge don’t like Frye, so I hope our FO doesn’t pick him up… unless maybe they know how to unleash the beast?

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by silverandblack_davis on Jun 30, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's a really nice guy though.

by Sabonis4Ever on Jul 2, 2009 4:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

channing

is a waste… he did well in New York.. because… they had “talent”

ie guys who can score… but no one who knew how to win

that differentiates Jamal Crawford and Zach Randolph from Kobe bryant and Manu (when healthy)

by SimpleTruth on Jul 4, 2009 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Realistically

‘Sheed is best available with Marcus Camby via trade a close second. However, that being said, it’s still not necessarily probable that either would happen. If I could have anyone potentially in free agency, then I’d say Mehmet Okur.

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by Jaceman on Jun 30, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

PF for second unit

Hi I’m new to the Spurs forum. Not really a Spurs fan but I have a healthy respect for the way the organization is run, the character, and the adoption of a more international playstyle as opposed to AAU ball.

My opinion is that the PF free agent that is coveted is more important for the second unit then the first unit. The first unit with Duncan, Jefferson, Parker, Mason (great shooter and great fit) has enough offensive options that it needs a scrappy rebounder/defender type. Particularly important is if this player can be good at extending on pick and roll defense that involve the 4 position. Having a tall player that can guard the pick and roll and isn’t a superstar (saves energy) is priceless and also improves Duncan’s defense. The best fit for this would be like an Anderson Varejao, Paul Milsap, Chuck Hayes type.

Does DeJuan Blair? Looking at his body type and bad knees, I just can’t see it. We need to see what kind of lateral movement he has or else he’s just going to be a guy that has to stand near the basket. That’s okay as a backup center when you’re matched up against say Puchalia or Przybilla but not against an active 4.

The Spurs are not a young team. Watching their subsitution patterns clearly shows the importance of the second unit. Manu Ginobili is the main cog of this second unit and when healthy is consistently the best 6th man in the game. I’d get the PF that best combos with Manu’s talents.

With that in mind, I’d be inclined to go with McDyess. McDyess is simply a nasty 2 pt jump shooter and one of the best in the NBA as a big. I think this would combo perfectly with Manu’s creativity and attacking style. Having a second unit led by the two and fitting in either Mason or Jefferson would be pretty strong.

by hoya4life3381 on Jun 30, 2009 11:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Welcome to PTR. I appreciate you taking the time to break it down like that, and have to say that I like Dice a lot, I just see Rasheed spreading the floor even futher. I didn’t realize until I read it at SpursTalk, but Dice has the most lethal jumper of any NBA big man. That would be a pretty damn valuable tool to have in the arsenal.

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by Tim C. on Jun 30, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Spurs really are not that old anymore

Duncan is 33
Manu wiill turn 32 soon
Finley who might pick up his option for next season is 36

Outside of them everyone is under 30 and there should be a youth movement next season with some really young guys getting some serious minutes (Hill, Blair, McClinton, and maybe even Gist or Hairston).

I see your point on the 4 for the starting unit, but what the Spurs would really like would be another shot-blocker. Pop’s would love to return to having 2 shot-blockers on the floor and letting the 1-3 funnel players into the middle if they drive and playing tight on their jump-shots. Thus a Milsap or Hayes would not be ideal as a starter, but someone like that might fill in if nobody else was available.

"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili

by VWolf on Jun 30, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Holy crap, is that all true? We aren’t that old any more?

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 30, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, YOU still are.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 30, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey! Show some respect for your elders!

by CapHill on Jun 30, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My first preference, still, would be to find a way to sign Splitter.

If we can’t do that then I’d want Camby.

If that’s impossible and we have to just choose from free agents, I like

1. ’Sheed (god help us).
2. Andersen
3. Gortat
4. McDyess
5. ’Sho

Although really, my list stops after the top three guys. You’ll notice it’s actually pretty short on rebounding/shot blocking.

Give a man a chicken and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to chicken and he'll call you crazy and question your command of the English language.

by Aaronstampler on Jun 30, 2009 12:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I just don’t see Spiltter passing up the ducats of his 09-10 salary with Tau. The Spurs would not be able to pay him close to that. It makes more sense for him to stay in Europe another season.

Camby is going to command more than the MLE. How would the Spurs get him?

"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili

by VWolf on Jun 30, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Camby’s not even a FA, we’d have to get him via trade.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 30, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know he’s not a FA, but the Clips will dangle him. With Randolph (who has an awful contract) and Kaman and Griffin all there already, somebody has to go.

Give a man a chicken and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to chicken and he'll call you crazy and question your command of the English language.

by Aaronstampler on Jun 30, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

my only concern with that is what we’d have to give up. If we can put together a package that doesn’t involve any of the big 3, or our younger talent, I say do it.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 30, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

plus Camby and minus Mason, and someone else, AND someone else

You’d like that deal? Hmmm, I’m not so sure where the rest of our roster would be coming from. And just how far over the luxury tax are we going to go?

I’d prefer picking up a FA.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We don’t have any players that match his salary… Our roster is depleted right now, and we’re considering signing a lot of rookies and young, cheap players to fill it out. If we give away even more players, then what? How could a trade for Camby work?

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by LatinD on Jun 30, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

very few guys on this list play above average defense and/or rebound well for their height. Most are undersized offense-only guys and the drafting of Blair makes most of them undesirable.

Give a man a chicken and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to chicken and he'll call you crazy and question your command of the English language.

by Aaronstampler on Jun 30, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gortat over McDyess, eh? For the shotblocking then?

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no, for the dashing good looks.

Give a man a chicken and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to chicken and he'll call you crazy and question your command of the English language.

by Aaronstampler on Jun 30, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He IS quite the looker … wait, oh — I’ve just been Stamplered.

Ouch.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How interesting would be to have ‘Sheed on the team, though? He’d make life so much easier for us bloggers.

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by LatinD on Jun 30, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mmm… get to know your new spurs #n. The content would be epic.

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by silverandblack_davis on Jun 30, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s all you, dude.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 30, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’ll just probably plagiarize Need for ’Sheed, LD-style.

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by silverandblack_davis on Jun 30, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So, can we trade Finley to Tau? Or offer them the $500K league maximum buyout plus Fin?

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 30, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shotblocking

Shot blocking at the expense of good on the ball defense is not a good strategy. Good shotblocking has to come from good rotational and on the ball defense therefore freeing up a weakside defender to be able come make the play. Having shotblockers as the last line of defense approach against paint penetration is just not going to work at the NBA level. I’d rather have a scrappy 4 that can consistenly put a hand in the face and stick with a pick and roll. Great shotblockers are also not necessarily great on the ball defenders. Plus against the great players, you’re not going to be swatting their shots and I’d rather have a guy that can consistently trouble them and hope for the best.

Sheed on paper seems like a good fit (2 years ago perfect). But honestly you have no idea what you’re going to get from him. He’s super volatile, prone to extreme or lack of effort, and often goes on a track of trying to prove himself at one area at the expense of others (3 pt shooting for example).

I’d examine the free agenst in terms of risk. In general, I’d say there’s probably 3 types of risk to examine: performance, injury, and team chemistry. Sheed is a risk at two of these and I’d say McDyess is pretty solid except for injury risk. Birdman and Gortat I’d say carry performance risk since they are coming off career years without a long track record. Chemistry risk for the two is also possible having played for teams that have player coaches and allow quite a bit of free lancing.

Who is ’Sho?

by hoya4life3381 on Jun 30, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Who is 'Sho?

Someone to be afraid of — both for his opponents, and his teammates. ; )

Welcome hoya, good to have you with us.

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rasho Nesterovic, see my opinion of him here.

by Big50 on Jun 30, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

anderson?!?!?!?!
gortat?!?!?!?!
mcdyess?!?!?!?!?

are you kidding? i am assuming that these names were put on the list for the single purpose of my torment….but that doesn’t explain whty some poeple are actually voting for them and commenting in their favor. WOW.

all three of these would be the 10th guy taken in a YMCA pick-up game involving everyone else on the list……

by bones on Jun 30, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You’re so much fun when you’re outraged.

by Lauri on Jun 30, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know I respect your opinions, bones, they’re always thought-out and well informed. Would you like to give us your top 5 off this list, with a blurb on each?

It would be much appreciated and add to the discussion.

Also, feel free to include anyone that you think’s is missing too.

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I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thanks for the kind words JRW….i think.

not sure if i have 5, but i voted for charlie v. he has pretty much comprised my wish list since early last season. he’s a smooth shooter, a decent rebounder and works hard. i like his game.

looking at the list above i also like brandon bass – a lot. i mean, we’ve all seen him shoot 95% against the spurs. what’s not to like, except we sem to have just filled that role in the draft.

splitter would be the ideal guy since we already have a line on him – but that appears to be impossible right now. i get why folks think zaza is a good fit, but i’m not super high on him myself. you could say that i’m not gaga for zaza. nene would also be a great fit, but he’s out too…right?

after trying to sort thru all of this, it sems the only guy that really fits is (gulp) rasheed wallace.

birdman managed to show up a little last year and everyone wants him? if i’m a GM, that dude has to show up consistently for a little more than a few games given his relative skill level and behavioral pattern……….mcdyess is too old and that’s not where we are going and gortat….well, the little bit of game he showed isnt enough to convince me over the longer term.

but again, i voted for charlie v.

by bones on Jun 30, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

One of the hazards of having a reputation for bringing the sarcasm is that sometimes when I’m serious, people say things like “thanks for the kind words JRW….i think.”

So, thanks for taking me at face value and replying. I like Bass, but I haven’t seen enough of Charlie V. to say one way or another.

Rasheed’s such a mixed bag, that it’s almost impossible to know what we’ll get from him, especially at the end of two years. That’s why I like McDyess. I know you say he’s old and we’re not going that direction, but we don’t want to marry him, we just want to MLE him for a bit and then move on.

We definitely want to be sure that we have room to sign Manu and Splitter in 2010, so anything we do this year, we’ll have to be sure not to overextend for next. I’m not a capologist, but I know that’s out there.

Anyway, I was curious when you chimed in with your “anderson?!?! gortat?!?mcdyess?!?!?” — thanks for clarifying.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

good points about the time frame for these moves. i dont mind locking into someone for a few years if its a guy we really want and could use. i am not super-enamored with many of the available big guys though….i guess i made my feelings on that known already……..

also just saw that anderson varejo got himself on the list of available – not that i’m clamoring for him, but i would rank him at least 4th from the bottom…….

by bones on Jul 1, 2009 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Varejao is one of ‘those guys’ who you hate when he plays against you, but love when he’s on your team.

I’m not excited about him, but I could see myself getting there if we acquired him.

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I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 1, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

doesn’t anderson fall into that category as well?

by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 1, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

if he was a bit more effective, I’d say yes

or maybe I just haven’t see him against the Spurs often enough for me to get a true ‘those guys’ hate-on for him

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 1, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’d probably still hate him if he played for us.

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by LatinD on Jul 1, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not sure if this was posted already…
buy why would ’sheed choose SAS over ORL or even CLE?
(assuming everyone offers the same $)

by FreshmakerDTM on Jun 30, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Something else that surprisingly no one has brought up-

It needs to be taken into consideration which states have the higher taxes/better financial benefits for athletes. I don’t remember Texas (although I’m pretty sure that it’s taxes are more favorable than Ohio), but I know Florida has much different personal income tax conditions; thus making it FAR more appealing to reside/settle in those locations. In other words, the MLE from Cleveland is actually far less than the MLE in Orlando or SA.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 30, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Texas doesn’t have a state tax so its always a plus for free agents.

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by CMoney on Jun 30, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s what I thought. BUT….. neither does Florida.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 30, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Texas has property taxes, which kill if you own, but don’t if you rent.

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I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, a guy that makes a golden wrestling belt to wear over his shoulder and commemorate his Championship doesn’t strike me as the renting or leasing type.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 30, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As someone who has lived in both places, and helped my parents with their finances… property taxes are much higher in TX, and sales tax is higher than FL as well. Sorry, that’s one advantage we don’t have over Orlando.

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by Tim C. on Jun 30, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Does he strike you as the landlord type?? Maybe of the absentee variety??

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

rockin the belt as the reigning champs, i thought that was awesome… i was hoping he was going to hand it to timmy after the 05 finals… never happened.

by FreshmakerDTM on Jun 30, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

+1 nicely done and recc’d to the 37th pick.

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by bellasa on Jun 30, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and you added a rhyme to the beginning — nice touch

I think you’ve got a winner there.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is pretty, isn’t it?

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by bellasa on Jun 30, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep, nice rythm, little rhyme and at the end, a tip of the cap to our newest animal — time to bronze it and put it up on the mantelpiece.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heh, good one DTM. I’m actually scared and excited at the same time if we get ’Sheed and he makes those guaransheeds of his in the playoffs. I wonder how Pop and the team will react to that kind of swagger.

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by silverandblack_davis on Jun 30, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As a Florida native, I don’t want Rasheed in my state.

by joe20 on Jun 30, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

SiMA, I’d forgotten about that, but now that you’ve mentioned it, I remember just how badly I wanted to beat them, so that they couldn’t strut and prance (yes, I said “prance”) around with those belts, showing off like they were some kind of world-changers or something. That self-importance and everybody-got-to-look-at-me attitude …

:: deep breath ::

Anyway, then we beat them and I pretty much forgot about the belts, until today.

Uh, thanks for bringing it up.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I’ve never forgotten the belts and won’t let it go. It’s the perfect example of an “anti-SPUR attitude.” My greatest disappointment however, like many of you too, was NOT seeing Sheed hand the belt over to Timmy like he should have. At least that would have saved the obvious implication that he was a douche; not making a big scene and passing it on (IMO, at least) confirmed that he IS a douche and not simply a clown.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 1, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sheed is a humongous douche – and i wont ever get past the belt thing either. that was quite possibly the douchiest thing ever in sports and he should be made fun of for it at every opportunity.

however, i don’t think there is anyone out there above him when it comes to big men that could push the spurs over the top this year….and that is a painful, painful admission.

…..and hey, i’m a bengals fan. which means that i have had to suffer though a lot of douchiness the last several years – at least there will be some kind of hope for june glory if the spurs go the douche route here.

by bones on Jul 1, 2009 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chad Johnson putting on the self-made HOF jacket while on the sidelines, takes the cake.

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by CMoney on Jul 1, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

at least there will be some kind of hope for june glory if the spurs go the douche route here

I know you’re right, but that’s what really gets me. I’m so proud of the fact that I’m a fan of a team who refuses to do things like this. It’s not in this team’s MO or character to sacrifice ideals for any reason, and I’d rather retain that pride than anything.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 1, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Where to begin

there’s so much to discuss here.

First, you say that since he didn’t hand over the belt, he “confirmed that he’s a douche and not simply a clown.” That implies that you’ve got a scale and that ‘clown’ is at least slightly less bad than ‘douche’. Can you elaborate on this scale? I’m quite curious. How many levels are there and what is the ranking of each — a full description of each term in your own words too, if you have the time.

Second,

I’m so proud of the fact that I’m a fan of a team who refuses to do things like this. It’s not in this team’s MO or character to sacrifice ideals for any reason, and I’d rather retain that pride than anything.

Does that mean “more even than winning a chip with a guy like Sheed playing a major role?”

I’m thinking you’ll stop just short of that stance, but it seems like you’re right on the line. The first thing that comes to mind in this instance is the 2nd Chicago Bulls three-peat with Rodman on the team. For my part, I don’t see Jordan and Pippen (themselves or their legacy) as being tainted by Rodman’s antics, or the Bulls franchise denigrated by all of the crap he pulled.

So, as much as it’d be difficult to cheer for him, I’d welcome his contributions if the FO goes for him and we get the title.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 1, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i loved rodman when he was on the spurs. he gave 50 a shot in the arm, to play more physical and become more of a leader on the court.

by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 1, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe, but he caused the team to self-destruct in the 1995 WCF.

by 4Him on Jul 1, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

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I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 1, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think you’re memory is tainted. The reg season was ok, then he got in a motorcycle wreck, took his shoes off and refused to re-enter a game, then started trying to lose during the 95 playoffs.

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by pollackj on Jul 1, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

strange.. but i remember despite all the antics the spurs were in a position to get to the finals.. they just couldn’t contain the dream.

by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 1, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hakeem had a great series, but the Spurs were a 62-win team (and very well-balanced, ranked 5th both offensively and defensively) that should have beaten those Rockets. Rodman’s antics kept the Spurs from being single-focused right when they really needed to be.

by 4Him on Jul 1, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

is this the feeling of the majority of the spurs fans, that the 95 series loss to houston was because of rodman and his antics?

in my opinion.. up until that point, robinson doesn’t get to the WCF’s without rodman being on the team! is it coincidence that 50 won the mvp that year?

by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 1, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, Rodman happened to be on the team when Dave had two of the four best statistical years of his career. So I don’t think that he affected Dave’s mvp so much, but I will admit that he made the Spurs a better team. In fact, he helped make them a championship-quality team, but I believe that the extra baggage ruined it for them (a lot of the commentary at the time said as much, as did some of the players themselves). I don’t know how widely this view is shared among Spurs fans.

by 4Him on Jul 1, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wasn’t even a Spurs fan then, but I agree that the Spurs weren’t the same after the shoe-removal incident. From afar, it seemed that the team didn’t want to put up with him or his antics after that.

by CapHill on Jul 1, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I fully expect him to go to the Magic.

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by CMoney on Jun 30, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Truth be known, I’ll be shocked as well if he doesn’t. I think we’re in the McDyess hunt though, and I don’t think that’s a bad option. Although I’m more skeptical of this mysterious reliable jumper that he has. I remember hearing the same thing about a jumper that a guy named Kurt Thomas had, but then never seeing much consistency in it.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 30, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What a coup it would be if we got Odom and moved Timmy to the 5 for this season.

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by CMoney on Jun 30, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Except for most of last season.

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by LatinD on Jun 30, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

His stats show that, but it always seemed he made those shots when we were already up by 10 or more or it was early in the game. He rarely seemed to make those shots when we were just dying for the bench to go on a run.

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by VWolf on Jun 30, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn’t feel that before the last 15, maybe 20 games of the season, when his production fell a lot. He was a key contributor when Duncan was injured after the ASG, though.

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by LatinD on Jul 1, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe it’s just me but the times I watched Dice last season, he was bricking his jumpers. So yes, your worries are valid, SiMA.

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by silverandblack_davis on Jun 30, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

McDyess is a poor man’s Kurt Thomas.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 30, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No way I agree with this. McDyess can at least dunk. I think it would be more fair to flip it, and say the opposite.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 1, 2009 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now ATS has truly become old! It’s just the white glaze over his eyes clouding his vision.

Kurt has nothing on McDyess in terms of effort and smooth, really smooth turnaround baseline jumpers! McDyess plays an intelligent and efficient floor game. His biggest knock on the pistons would be, he is not assertive and will keep quiet watching the Hamiltons throw up brick after brick.

He guards the 4 down low pretty well from what I remember. Kurt was never a threat on the floor. McDyess is. Defense and positioning, they are both fine.

by LionZion on Jul 1, 2009 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

smooth, really smooth

Anyone else get a bit uncomfortable when they ran across this?

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by CMoney on Jul 1, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

nope — just you

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 1, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s been said that ’Sheed’s fed up of cold cities, like Cleveland or Boston, so that’d leave SA and Orlando. Why SA over Orlando? No idea.

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by LatinD on Jun 30, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Better coach and the opportunity to play next to the best PF of all time? That would sure sell me but I’m biased as hell.

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by CMoney on Jun 30, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe he hates Mickey Mouse.

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by LatinD on Jun 30, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously, though, if the Magic are unwilling to pay Gortat more than 5M, then would they pay ’Sheed the whole MLE?

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by LatinD on Jun 30, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

seems unlikely, doesn’t it?

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by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just think about it – putting SVG and ‘Sheed in the same locker room? It’s gonna be a riot. I doubt SVG can control him.

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by silverandblack_davis on Jun 30, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You doubt that with very good reason.

Truth is, SVG has no chance against Sheed. RWallace would have that team for breakfast if the mood struck him.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And why again does everyone think that Sheed would hate that? Why does everyone seem to believe that Sheed, in his mid-30s, would relish a chance to actually be coached my a military man with no tolerance for shenanigans? If anything, I think that playing under a strict coach like Pop would turn Sheed away.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 1, 2009 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think we are just trying to convince Orlando’s front office not to try and sign him, just in case they’re reading.

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by pollackj on Jul 1, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Often times, people who have a lack of discipline themselves, actually desire an authoritiarian presence in their life to force them to do the things that they know they should. They may fight and struggle against it, but they actually know that they need it.

Search your feelings, SiMA. You know it to be true.

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I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 1, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

GOL**2

Maybe SIMA can shed light on this key assumption.

Often times, people who have a lack of discipline themselves, actually desire an authoritiarian presence

Do they actually desire it, or will they put up with it. In his mid-30s, the question is will Rasheed cede to a brusque Pop and be disciplined.

by LionZion on Jul 1, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t know about desiring it, but they eventually succumb to it. But that applies generally to younger males, as in the military. But older primadonna athletes accustomed to living off million-dollar salaries? I’m leaning strongly towards- It would be a disaster. If you’re thinking that Sheed is secretly craving the authoritative influence that Pop could be and simply needing a father-figure in a coach, I think you’re going to be tragically disappointed.

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by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 1, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This whole discussion brings TO to mind. When has he ever ceded to an authority figure? Major behaviorial changes rarely happen in your 30s, especially for people who are used to getting everything they ask for.

by CapHill on Jul 1, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

TO is so far gone that I think he’s beyond ever being reached outside of him deciding to go in for counseling himself.

As far as a middle-of-the-road crazy like Sheed, it’s not unprecedented for an already estabilshed star to undergo change for a season or two of championship ball.

From Charlie Rosen:

Alex Hannum was a legitimate tough guy. An important factor in his leading Philadelphia to a championship in 1967 was his ability to communicate with Wilt Chamberlain. Hannum initiated this process by shoving Wilt up against a locker early in the season and threatened to pound him to smithereens (or die trying) if the Dipper didn’t do as he was told. Surprised and intimidated, Chamberlain was totally cooperative for the duration.

Of course, being afraid of your coach isn’t exactly what I was talking about, but it’s fun to think about Pop scaring Sheed to the point of doing things “the right way.”

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 1, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, you can also argue differently through Randy Moss. He got traded to New England and he fell in line just like the others.

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by silverandblack_davis on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True, but who wouldn’t be a problem having to play for the Raiders? ; )

by CapHill on Jul 1, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was a problem long before he went to Oakland.

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I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 1, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But he was good before and after he played in Oakland. Just like everyone that played for them since 2003, not including Derrick Burgess.

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by sw12 on Jul 1, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think we’re forgetting Wallace’s best years were under Larry Brown, who is hardly considered a player’s coach. He’s a hard-ass as well, and Rasheed played great under him.

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by pollackj on Jul 2, 2009 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

pollackj, thank you.

This is my point exactly. I was going to mention LBrown, and forgot to.

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I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 2, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’ll give you that, but it doesn’t hurt that side of the argument that Sheed was years younger either.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 3, 2009 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

why Sheeed MAY pick SA

he MAY pick SA because they have shown interest like in the past

Lakers showed interest in Ron… and guess what?

by SimpleTruth on Jul 4, 2009 2:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The thought of Birdman on the Spurs makes me very nauseated.

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by sw12 on Jun 30, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I can’t “+1” this comment with enough vigor to express my complete agreement. He’d be the first SPUR I would openly and shamelessly boo.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 30, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The JV? No? Wow….

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Jun 30, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As much as I despised some of the JV’s on-court decisions and his ability to not be Tony Parker, he filled a role that there weren’t many other suitors for. He was one of those players that wouldn’t ever win a game for you, but wouldn’t kill you either. I always rated the JV (on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being a Chris Paul PG and 1 being a sofa pillow) as a 5.

Birdman on the other hand, is so easy to hate. It’s like you’re supposed to hate him, and I would have no problem obliging.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 30, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the JV was a complete zero. Not good in the game of basketball where 0-0 scores are a rarity

"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"

by Chilai on Jun 30, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hypothetically speaking...

You have a daughter who’s off away at Colorado University. She comes home for winter break and brings home with her a new boyfriend. Low and behold, you open the door to see Chris Anderson standing there with your daughter. She immediately squeals “We’re getting married!”

What do you do?

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Jun 30, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you want the FBI called on SiMA don’t you?

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 30, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I go back in time to when she’s a toddler and slap my younger self across the face, and scream “Whatever you think you’re doing that’s right, RETHINK IT! It didn’t turn out so well.”

Seriously, there’s not a whole lot you can do at that point. Your daughter has already moved away to college. You’re not in her life as much as you’re a spectator at that point. You’ve already missed your chance to train her for what to look for in a man.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would just flash a bag of anfetamines or something and throw it out of the window of my 9th floor apartment

"Rock and Roll angels bring that HardRock Hallelujah"

by Chilai on Jun 30, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well since there is no such thing as Colorado University, I would first question her about where she’s been all those months…it is the University of Colorado, naturally abbreviated as CU!

"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili

by VWolf on Jun 30, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

>:( everyone’s a critic.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Jul 1, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s a good question, because there’s not much you COULD do. You can’t intimidate him with jail, because he’s already immune to that. You can’t ridicule him to the point of leaving, because a guy who styles his hair like a rooster is clearly beyond mockery. I’d probably just go with Chilai’s suggestion, and throw some hooch out the window of a tall building. Except he’s probably not hard up for that anyway though, playing on a team with Melo and all.

It’s a pickle. These are the questions that affirm my fears of having children. For now I’m content with simply being web-Godfather to JRW’s “Cheaper by the Dozen.”

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 1, 2009 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know that we’ve stopped at five, because now I’ve got a C, PF, SF, SG and PG.

No dozen for me, thank you very much.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 1, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds like the Roger-Wilcos are a little thin off the bench.

Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. --Andy Dufresne

by tomasito on Jul 1, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly. What will the Wilcos do when their star shooting guard goes down with a stress fracture?

Great… now I went and depressed myself.

(And yes, I know the sentence above is all kinds of wrong.) ;-)

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie

by bellasa on Jul 1, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s when the web-Godfather steps in and makes an offer to the other team that they can’t refuse. JRW has become MY friend now.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 1, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, really. I bet he’s just DYING for a Bud Light.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 1, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right now, our bench consists of me (coach-player) and my wife. So we’d definitely need some help if our starting SG was sidelined by an ear infection, the sniffles or colic.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 1, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why do you hate him so much? He’s a headcase, but he plays with energy.

Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on Jun 30, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep, strangely, I enjoyed watching him in the playoffs. He’s one of those Mr. 110% guys.

The Roleplayer's Realm

by silverandblack_davis on Jun 30, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You mean other than him being a rule/law-breaking, one-skill-having, characterless, attention-loving showboat? Well, not for really anything I suppose.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. Washing machines work really hard and have lots of energy, but they don’t get anywhere either.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 30, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You can’t ignore the impact he had on the Nuggets in the playoffs. We could use some of that, regardless of how many tattoos he has.

Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on Jun 30, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll pass

I’m just fine with Tim, Tony, RJ and a healthy Manu.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Jun 30, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And Bonner.

Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on Jun 30, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How could I forget Ginger?

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Jun 30, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not against ~~conformist art~~ tattoos, just against one-diminsional play. He had an impact, yes, but he received FAR more praise for his impact than he deserved IMO, when Billups was the real reason the thuggets weren’t again a basketball abortion.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 30, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You mean Karl had nothing to do with their success this year?

by CapHill on Jun 30, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How dare you suggest suck a thing. It’s not like he’s the same coach that was there when they were perennial also-rans.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 30, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

*such

That was unfortunate.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jun 30, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

your reaction made it even funnier — I imagined you saying it in a very dry, almost monotone voice

verra nize

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Beautiful sarcasm, neighbor. Just beautiful.

No, Coach Hairlip again was an innocent bystander to the goings on at the Pepsi.

"If I was the kind of guy who posted a signature line, this would be it from now on." -SiMA

by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 1, 2009 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, the guy reformed and he gives unquestioned effort. Only reason I don’t want him is, Gasol will look like a fast cheshire cat toying with his food if guarded by Birdman.

by LionZion on Jul 1, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don’t worry guys. All the scuttlebutt is that Andersen is #1 on the Nuggets to do list.

by CapHill on Jun 30, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He is the fucking definition of a tool.

AKA: Linix129

by sw12 on Jun 30, 2009 6:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

you said it, linux

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jun 30, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shawn Bradley?

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Jun 30, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This post has reached epic status.

It is what it is.
We are who we are.

by SinCitySpur on Jun 30, 2009 7:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

We’ve had a lot of those in the past week. I’m assuming the PtR hasn’t been this busy in previous offseasons, but this is just crazy!

by CapHill on Jun 30, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OZZY is oz-some!

It is what it is.
We are who we are.

by SinCitySpur on Jun 30, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Counting people on both sides of the fence (and people on the fence)

Hey, seeing as to how there has been 338 comments on this post, errr… not that i’ve been counting and reading all of them, is it possible to do revote in order to see what the consensus is after all the overall productive input that has been going on in this thread (yes, I would consider politics, laziness, etc. to be productive inputs as well).

Anyways, i’m on the McDyess side, but I can see why people prefer Sheed’s talent over him. Besides, I wouldn’t mind either of them, although I would be much more cautious with Sheed. Nevertheless, I trust that the FO will bring whomever they feel will make us a beter team, and not just focus on increasing the talent. If they feel Sheed will not be a hindrance, then I trust them.

by the little o on Jun 30, 2009 11:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Good point, little o.

Let’s see now, where’s our resident poll maker?

dfjmed! Hey, wanna re-run this poll to see where we stand now that we’ve beaten this thing into the ground for the last couple of days?

Or should we leave that honor to rikiddo since he started this one?

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 1, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gortat

has committed to Dallas apparently. Verbal agreement reported by Stein on twitter.

by LionZion on Jul 2, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ESPN is reporting that the Celtics are sending their heavy hitters to go talk to Sheed.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Jul 2, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’ve got a bad feeling about this.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 2, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah. I read Sheed is meeting with all the teams today or so one after the other.

by LionZion on Jul 2, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you know who did we sent?

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 2, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nope. The article didn’t say much other than all three teams(celts, SA and Cleveland) are meeting him in line today.

by LionZion on Jul 2, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Should’ve sent Timmeh and Pop

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jul 2, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow...

Can you just imagine how you’d feel if Tim Duncan and Pop were coming to talk to you about signing with the Spurs. I’d flip shit. This would be me signing my contract.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Jul 2, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

malik rose?!

by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 2, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You, DTM, get a JTU for that!

Hilarious.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 2, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and the JTU goes to...DTM

nice, my first JTU award!…. first off, i would like to thank physcopops, because without him, none of this would be possible…ha

by FreshmakerDTM on Jul 3, 2009 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

common!

As in the words of physcopops (I think he meant PSYCHOpops)

comon idiot ……………….. malik Rose !!! wtf ………. d

dont ever post for spurs blogs if you are not even aware of who malik rose is ……. freakin idiot …….
u sound like the other moron who was talkin about Rasho ……………………… do you guys ever even watch the spurs ??? see 1999 please and shut the f up

by physcopops on Jul 2, 2009 10:32 AM CDT to parent up reply reply Story-flag Flag Story-rec Rec 0

Don’t you know he doesn’t play for the spurs anymore? gah!

by vy til i die on Jul 2, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nailed him.

Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on Jul 3, 2009 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really? I figured that if anyone could understand physcopops’ longsuffering loyalty to a player, through the years, without regard to the passage of time, that it would you, LD.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 3, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he and a certain Argentine would get along very well, but the Argentine isn’t LatinD.

Bring back Bruce, and free James Gist!
Pounding the Rock - where RJ happens.

by Tim C. on Jul 3, 2009 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I won’t ever understand someone that uses ellipses with more than three dots.

Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on Jul 3, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
I don't like chatty. I don't do chatty. I like quiet. Quiet and mean. Those are my people. - Nurse Jackie

by bellasa on Jul 3, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I understand; irreconcilable differences and all.

My name is DeJuan Blair. You blocked my shot. Prepare to die. - CH&LD
I want my Manu o;—-)

by jollyrogerwilco on Jul 3, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good List.

If the Spurs are serious about winning again… using the midlevel or less they shall obtain these in this order.

1. Rasheed Wallace
2. Antonio McDyess

These athletic two will help a little but do not space the floor which is necessary for Parker, Manu and Duncan.

3. Zaza Pachulia
4. Chris Andersen

THAT IS ALL
Lamar Odom will not sign for midlevel. After that, the rest are nothing but fodder and a waste of minutes.

by SimpleTruth on Jul 4, 2009 1:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Marcus Haislip

Just read some reports in the european press (in spain and israel) that he is about to sign with the spurs. I assume it will be in a backup roll. Not good news for Gist.

by arnav on Jul 5, 2009 10:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs