PtR Loser Quick Cap: The 2008-2009 NBA Season
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 14, 2009 10:28 PM CDT
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PrintThe rat race is over, folks.
Kobe goin' first.
I know we all have different levels of dislike for the Los Angeles Lakers, but they won it all this time, so in the spirit of sportsmanship, congratulations. It's painful to think that the Gasols, Vujacics, Odoms, and Morrisons of the world now have their rings, but like everything else hurtful or disappointing, this too, shall pass.
Despite a postseason marred by numerous injuries to key players (ahem... Manu), I must say that this year's playoffs have been somewhat enjoyable, both for the games themselves and our constant banter in the loser threads, FanPosts and FanShots. So, thanks guys :) (and shout-outs to rikiddo for helping with the loser threads, and to Lauri and CapHill for the Round 2 loser threads, which greatly inspired me)
As for our San Antonio Spurs, somewhere along the way we tripped, stumbled, and eventually fell out of the race. We'll be back next season, for sure. In what shape, form, size or state, I don't know. But I guess that's what makes all things Spurs exciting and crazy at the same time, right?
The great Chinese philosopher Confucius once said, "Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."
The emotional ebb and flow of fandom for me, sometimes, is very difficult to go along with and can be draining, but there is no doubt that riding these waves with the PtR faithful makes everything worth it. Now, we can finally take our respective breaks (graduate school starts for me tomorrow), and for some, continue those magnificent offseason discussions. Remember, as hard as we work here in PtR, Timmeh works even harder for us SA fans.
"In the depths of winter, I discovered in me an invincible summer." - Albert Camus
Keep the faith, boys and girls. And see you around on the interwebs.
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Davis, I love that Camus quote. I’m going to be thinking about it for the next few hours now as I play some Chess….anyone around here play by any chance?
...formerly known as speedostuffer
not in years, but I was pretty good in my time.
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Love chess… but my 5 year old brother use to beet me in my teenage years… I concluded I sucked at the game (I discarded the idea that he was very good, dont know why)
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
i’m less pissed off about the lakers winning than i was boston last year. but still….ffs.
and i feel all empty inside now. the seasons over, the draft doesn’t hold much interest for us, summer league is a while away (and even that isn’t all that enthralling)….happens every year, i get so used to the nba being there every day, and then it just stops. blah.
free george hill!
by sleep research facility on Jun 14, 2009 11:32 PM CDT reply actions
Nice season ‘cap, Davis. And a murmured congratulations to the Lakers, they earned it. Or at least, they earned more than anyone else. The other “contenders” didn’t seem to want it as bad as LA.
As for what’s next on PtR:
The draft is 10 days away, so I’m sure we’ll have an open thread for that. Summer league is intriguing, and a few of us might actually be there in person. Then, silence until training camp.
Nah, I’m sure there’ll be plenty of rumors and transactions to discuss in the offseason, even if they don’t involve the Spurs. Good times, and I hope to see everyone back next season, if not sooner. : )
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Yes, I would like a draft thread, please :)
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 15, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Im not going away. Automatically, its lakers time on all the NBA blogs/pages. Im a refugee, so Ill stay here.
So…..
Finley/Bowen for Nocioni!!!, it works and there are lots of reasons both teams would do it.
"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."
Not bad at all
But you’d better watch out, Chilai. LD’s not going to stand for a trade proposal like that!
Which makes me wonder — David, according to you, what players are we allowed to trade? I’m sure you’d argue that we must keep the Big Three and Bowen. Are there any other untouchables?
I want my Manu!
Over at 48MOH one of the writers warned about having too many sacred cows. Tim’s the only untouchable player. That doesn’t mean I think we should trade Manu or Tony though. Not because I like them but because there wouldn’t be any deals that made sense and better our team.
...formerly known as speedostuffer
In my opinion? The Big Three and Bowen deserve to end their careers in a Spurs jersey. And Pop should retire whenever he feels like it, and not a day before. That’s it.
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Dunkin' Cheerleaders
by LatinD on Jun 15, 2009 2:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would like to see them all retire as Spurs but if there is ever a move that betters the team then I’m all for it. Malik Rose and Avery Johnson were beloved Spurs and got shipped out at just the right time. When they make trips back to San Antonio they are greeted warmly and there are no hard feelings from either side. If the Clippers decided they wanted Parker at all costs and offered us their number 1 pick (Griffin), Al Thorton, and Camby I think we’d have to pull the trigger.
...formerly known as speedostuffer
And Avery was the Manu of our first championship in that he was the heart and fire of our team. Of course Manu contributes more than just effort but it’s his competitive spirit and balls to the wall attitude that has made him our favorite Spur
...formerly known as speedostuffer
Honestly, I can’t compare either Avery or Malik to the Big Three. But I didn’t live those championship runs with you guys, so maybe it’s just me.
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Dunkin' Cheerleaders
Not just you. I couldn’t agree with your above comment more and recc’d it to Asgards Hall.
Avery was huge for us in 1999 and Malik definitely had his moments. But the Big 3 (+1) have been consistently awesome since 2002 – 2003. Those bad boys need to die with their Spurs jerseys on their backs.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
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I’m not trying to compare talent. If that were the case then everyone should be open game for trades as there are better players in the league than any of the big three. I’m talking about what they’ve devotion to the franchise and fans as it relates to their character. Avery was much more of a “Spur” than Tony will ever be. Manu is my favorite player ever but the Spurs come before any one player except Duncan because with out him we have zero championships.
Now do I think we should trade Manu or Tony? Absolutely not. But it’s because we can’t get equal value not because they deserve this untouchable treatment. I would be on suicide watch if Manu got traded for Chris Paul, Peja, and Tyson Chandler but at the same time I’d be happy for the Spurs as it would make us a better team. Does that make any sense?
...formerly known as speedostuffer
That’s where I don’t agree. The Jazz never won a championship with Stockton and Malone, and I would’ve still considered them untouchable if I’d been fan. If Timmy hadn’t led us to a championship, he’d still be untouchable in my mind.
Silas, Gervin… wouldn’t those be untouchable? In my mind it’s about the happy memories and unforgettable plays they’ve gifted us with, not whether we’d have championships without him or not.
But that’s just my take on that. I understand what you’re saying, speedo, and if Manu got traded for CP, Peja and Tyson I wouldn’t be angry, just sad.
(Cheering for CP would be sad by itself.)
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Ah shucks you called me by my old name. You really know how to butter people up LD..
...formerly known as speedostuffer
i don’t think any team would accept those 2 combined in a trade.
free george hill!
by sleep research facility on Jun 15, 2009 4:44 AM CDT up reply actions
EXXXPIRING CONTRACTS. They are like porn for GMs
"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."
but its not like either has a HUGE expiring deal next season. i just don’t see that as being enough of an incentive for any team to trade for both of them.
free george hill!
by sleep research facility on Jun 15, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Nocioni has a bad long contract. Im sure the Kings would like to get rid of him
"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."
IS THIS JUST AN ARGENTINIAN THING?
free george hill!
by sleep research facility on Jun 16, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the semi-props.....
Great season, but try to get healthy and give us a little competition next season will ya. It’s not the same without a Lakers/Spurs battle.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Good post, Davis. If it helps, I’m sure we’ll have plenty of posts during the offseason. We’re like that.
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Dunkin' Cheerleaders
As much as I hate the Lakers, there is something comforting in them winning. I wanted Orlando to win, but I like the championship club staying as exclusive as possible. Could you imagine if Denver had won a chip? In the NFL, the season before last, I wanted the Patriots to win it all just because my teams couldn’t and it would’ve maintained the status quo. They fell short and the Giants are annoyingly now a championship club.
So next year we are back to the usual, trying to melt a Lakers ice thrown from underneath them.
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My team might get infected with a case of Bourousis, but the Dr. says the symptoms are dunking, rebounding, and blocking with the side effect of spreading the floor.
I kinda echo the sentiment, Blase. Call us selfish, but it isn’t fun anymore if every other franchise gets to win a championship (Clippers… no way, jose).
by silverandblack_davis on Jun 16, 2009 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I definitely understand the sentiment here, but do you remember being a Spurs fan prior to 1999? How bad you wanted it to happen? I wouldn’t even have a problem with the Suns winning one, if their more casual fans weren’t so insufferable.*
*IF the Spurs were not in the playoffs.
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