Allow myself to introduce... myself/Response to ATS' Bonner post
[I originally posted this in the comments section of ATS' post, but LatinD among others suggested I re-post, so here it is...]
{oh-- and Stampler, if you read this-- I'm STILL waiting for a scathing recap....}
I’ve been lurking on this blog since a buddy of mine forwarded me Stampler’s re-cap of the Golden State Warriors game in which James White got his first NBA dunk. I felt like I was trapped in a bad Jim Rome e-mail as I proctored a mid-term for my university class and desperately tried not to laugh so hard that I sprayed Diet Coke all over my keyboard. "an erection that would frighten Traci Lords" indeed… hilarious.
I posted a couple of times in the past under a different screen name but have since had the login deleted. I was sad to see Matthew go. I’m still waiting for Stampler to say something scathing yet amusing about the way the season petered out. And I’m ready to throw in some cents of my own:
1) While your post is great and insightful, ATS, I’m amazed that no one has pointed out this essential truth— Matt Bonner sucks because he AGREES WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID ABOUT HIM. There are countless players with NBA rings who have MUCH more marginal NBA talent than Bonner (Avery Johnson, take a bow… Kurt Rambis, you’ll get another shot at leading an NBA team… [not]) but all of those guys played like they had a giant chip on their shoulder to prove that they belong. Matt plays like he put down one bet in a casino, one 18 gazillion with it, and knows that each subsequent bet is just losing money for him. Deep down he believes that he doesn’t belong, and when the pressure is on him, he proves it to us. So, yeah— offseason priority, hasta la Bonner.
2) Why has no one mentioned the fact that first round picks get guaranteed contracts? When you’re picking deep in the first round, as the Spurs have been for the last decade due to their playoff successes, you get first rounders who are “first round” in name only. In reality, you’re picking first in the second round. So the Spurs deliberately picked guys that they had no intention of bringing in, nor room for, so that they could avoid using cap space on marginal players. It’s a risky strategy, but it has worked for them. Say what you will about losing a player of Scola’s quality, but if we hadn’t drafted him using that strategy, he wouldn’t have been ours to lose. And we would have been paying a guaranteed contract to some schmoe that none of us would remember. And finally, since our first championship, we’ve avoided the huge mistake of giving big free agent deals to marginal talents to “reward” them for their past contributions. (Can you believe that Isiah was willing to pick up Malik’s contract? Does anyone remember the fat tub of goo that showed up in 2000 wearing Jaren Jackson’s jersey??)
3) I don’t think that there can be any doubt that everyone in the Spurs organization knows that they are undersized and that they can’t get away with it anymore. I can’t remember which run it hit me in (probably the ’03) but after having three seven footers in our front line (Tim/David/Perdue) we were down to having Tim plus one shaky tall guy (end of career David; Rasho McSulkavic, endless string of guys who were a) unathletic or b) athletic but dumb as a sack of hammers). And Tim has been successfully covering for that sucky extra big for the past 6~7 seasons. And he can’t do it any more. Tim’s got to be the suck guy. He’s got to be the one getting the Kurt Thomas 15 foot jumpers because the other team is collapsing on the dangerous guy. If not, he’s out of the league within two years. If so, maybe he’s got another 5. Once nice thing about not having any athleticism—when you lose it, it doesn’t take away your whole game. So I expect this offseason to be real serious when it comes to getting big bodies in the fold. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a couple of summer league line-ups that consist of George Hill, Marcus Williams, and three bigs (how ‘bout Javotkas, Mahinmi, and Gist?) just to be sure we know who to bring to camp. Oh, and a last word in Bonner’s "defense"—can anyone name a big that the Spurs have released in the last 5 years that’s in this year’s playoffs? Is Samalki Walker tearing it up somewhere? Are Jackie Butler and Francisco Elson leading the Cavs’ renaissance?
4) Things that I would love to see in 2010:
- Gist in a Spurs (not Toros) Jersey
-Yawn with an ankle not made of pixie dust and rainbows
- no trace of JV, Billy Ocean, Davy Jones, I’m Clankdoka, and the aforementioned Matthew Ball-less.
-enough young players who have no clue what the f&*) is going on that Pop gets back to being Pop, which means regular tirades that leave assistant coaches exhausted from hauling him off the court and his wife speed-dialing their pharmacist for extra blood pressure meds.
Finally, I love the Spurs. I will never root for another NBA franchise. I’m completely disinterested in who wins the championship this year. And I knew that this season was not meant to be. There is no contradiction in loving your team and knowing that they don’t have a chance in hell—I’ve been rooting for these guys since Gervin was hoisting ‘em up at the Hemisfair… which is now a 5-star hotel convention resort. Sheesh.
Oh, and for all of you guys that criticize RC—have you ever met him? He may be the poster-child for the 2-o’clock pick me up cocktail frat boy made good, but if he wasn’t so damn good at his job, he wouldn’t lose so much of his staff every off-season.
Peace,
vespaguy
{eds note-- the post I read was not written by stampler, even though it did reference him. It was titled "Unbiased recap of James White's 1st 15 Minutes in the NBA" and can be found in the March '07 Archives} -ocd vespaguy
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Welcome to PtR, vespaguy. Cool first (or second?) post. You missed out on Gooden. Whaddaya think about his future on the Spurs?
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by silverandblack_davis on May 6, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions
Haha, I’ve thinking the EXACT same thing.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 6, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
…I’ve BEEN thinking…
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 6, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I think “welcome to my underground lair” is the appropriate response.
To smooth over any potential arguments over this matter, here’s a LatinD special smiley face :)
I prefer smileys with noses :-)
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Don’t you think this kind of smiley :) looks like a smiling frog? Or a kind of dopey, half-wit smile? By contrast, this one :-) looks like a jolly fellow enjoying a convivial conversation with friends.
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Sorry, tomasito, I am firmly in the anti-nose camp. Something about the nose makes me cringe.
But the worst, the absolute worst, is the CIRCLE NOSE.
:o)
I’m not sure why, but that face induces a sort of nauseated rage in me. Just typing it took a lot out of me. I have broken dates because of it.
I know, I know, it’s just a stupid little emoticon! But . . . I’m simply trying to be honest here.
:o)
It looks like a happy clown. Does it anger you that three characters could be so happy when your soul is so full of rage?
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Notice I put the smiley in the subject line to make LD happy ;-)
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Is that because you read ‘It’?
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the smiley without a nose just looks to big, like the guy is fat or mentally retarded. It’s too close to the eyes too, it’s just…the proportions aren’t right. Maybe with a space between the eyes and the mouth it works better:
:)
: )
: )
: )
Yeah, the second one looks best I think.
My tapeworm tells me what to do.
You’re simply Arial boys living in an Arial world.
Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
The space smiley looks good. You are Solomonic in your wisdom; perhaps you will bring peace to our smiley feuding on PtR. The only problem is that it might break if it is at the end of a line, so the eyes would be on one line and the smile on the next.
Let me take it for a spin : )
That’s a good smiley.
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
should we use a capital P or a small p?
:p
:P
with a space between:
: p
: P
or using the equals sign as eyes:
=p
=P
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by silverandblack_davis on May 10, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Capital P, Davis, you shouldn’t even ask.
Geez, younguns’ these days… no respect for the classics.
:P
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Really? But the small p looks so cute… :(
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by silverandblack_davis on May 11, 2009 4:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Forgive me, Lauri, but drool is precisely what you want in a raspberring emoticon. Additionally, the small p doesn’t look like a stuck out toungue, but instead resembles a weird nose-type appendage. I gotta go with the capital P plus a space.
: P
Oh, yeah. There’s no doubt what’s being conveyed there! Just look at the deadness in the eyes that’s communicated by the colon when separated from the P by the extra space. There’s some contempt there, for sure. The phbbt implied by this non-smiley could curdle milk, whereas the small p no-space one would only be able to, perhaps, make your water taste a bit funny.
You’re better off trying to intimidate the sea. - LatinD
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by jollyrogerwilco on May 11, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Welcome again. Clankdoka seems fitting.
Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
The Spurs drafted Scola late in the 2nd round (not the 1st) and I don’t think anyone had a problem with that strategy. It was a great move to take Scola (especially that late) and then wait to bring him in, rather than picking up some scrub who would might waste cap and roster space. However they needed to complete the plan and eventually make Scola a Spur. It was idiotic of Buford to give him to the Rockets just for some cash savings. There is no way that can be justified.
Scola could have been the difference this season. With or without Manu, the Spurs would likely have been contenders had he been on the squad. Instead we got treated to that piss-poor 1st round performance where they could not even score on a horrible defensive team. Scola would have had 20 points per night in our first round series and the Spurs would have won in 5 or 6 games.
"The evolution has been good, and I am much more tranquil now in the face of what comes next,"--Manu Ginobili
stop — please stop
you’re making me cry
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by jollyrogerwilco on May 6, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s not the worst image you could have used — b/c he’s at least in Argentina’s colors.
It’s seeing him in that Rocket red when we know that he was born (yes, I said it: BORN!) to wear the silver and black.
You’re better off trying to intimidate the sea. - LatinD
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by jollyrogerwilco on May 7, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Well done
Nice post, good read. I agree with most of your points. Including that RC is good as is Pop.






























