Should Horry be a Hall of Famer?

Good job getting the info.

I was looking for the video of Horry biting Stackhouse but all I found was this and that.

Also this….. not sure that helps the case though.

Dammit. Literally while you were posting this I was researching in reference to your comments on the other post. We need to work together better on this. Good post.

Great post, LE. I vote “yes”, of course. (Why not add a poll, LE?)

Stampler said it best. . .

No way RoHo is a HOFer, no way, no how. Not even close.
Look, figuring out if an NBA player is a Hall of Famer is really very simple. In a playoff game, if they suck out loud, will the announcers notice?
With the Spurs, if Tim ever goes 1-for-12 with 4 points and 6 rebounds in a playoff game, the announcers would blame him. And rightly so. Same with Manu and Tony. When they suck, it makes a difference.
Horry is remembered for all of his big shots, all his clutch plays, but nobody ever remembers the games he does nothing. I’m sure Horry had plenty of quiet playoff games in his career (and god knows the majority of his regular season career), but nobody notices or cares when they happen because nothing is expected of him. No coach has ever told him, "We need 20 and 10 from you tonight or we have no chance."
He’s a house money guy, an icing on the cake guy. You take whatever he gives you, but you don’t expect anything. 7 points and 5 rebs is not a HOF player. I don’t care if the 7 points came in the 4th quarter of a Game 7. If it wasn’t for all the superstars that Horry played with that got him into the playoffs and into games that mattered by busting their asses EVERY SINGLE QUARTER OF EVERY SINGLE GAME, his 4th quarter heroics would never come to be. He’s the beneficiary of other people’s hard work and most of his clutch threes were wide open shots that double teamed stars got him.

It depends on your definition of Hall of Famer; traditionally, it means “one of the best players (statistically) of all time.” By that measure, Horry is clearly not a HOF’er; he never made an All-Star team, nor at any point was considered among the best players in the league.

To me, though, the Hall of Fame should tell the story of the history of the game, akin to a “Museum of Basketball.” In that light, it is impossible to convey accurately the history of the game without mentioning Horry’s contributions. I think he ought to be included, but his plaque would say something like “he contributed to 7 championships on three different teams,” as opposed to someone like Karl Malone, whose plaque might read “one of the greatest PF’s of all time, took his team to two Finals but was defeated by the Bulls.”

The Hall should also have guys like Sean Elliott (Memorial Day Miracle, kidney transplant), John Paxson, or Steve Kerr in the Hall of Fame as well. Not because they are all-time greats, but because telling their story enriches our understanding of basketball’s history.

I love a great Spurs debate! I’m going to side with the traditional meaning of the Hall of Fame. Horry was a great roleplayer, but plain and simple, he just doesn’t have the numbers to have a spot of his own.

I do, however, believe that he deserves to be recognized in a nice exhibit in the Hall about the “Clutch Game Winners” exhibit, or “All-Time Great Playoff Hero” rack (with the Kerr’s, Paxson’s, Horry’s). There must be some plaque that lists the players with the most Championship rings- being only one on nine players in the history of the NBA to be on seven Championship teams or more, Horry deserves mention here, as well.

I want to ask a question. Many of you folks have been putting people like Steve Kerr, John Paxson, Sean Elliot and other like them on the same level as Robert Horry. I understand this argument, but it’s wrong. Those three guys had one or two moments in the playoffs where they were clutch or had an impact.

Horry had a large impact in the clinching of a series or title for 5 or 6 of the seven championship teams he was on. Kerr had two moments. One for the Spurs and one for the Bulls. Paxon hit one shot. Elliot was better than both of those other guys, but he was/is not a HOF’er. I don’t think Horry will get in the hall, but let’s not confuse a guy made a CAREER off of good and great playoff performances with guys who had a couple of clutch shots.

While running a search on NBA Championship rings, I coincidentally stumbled upon this Horry article.

he’s not a HoF player. A career made up of great 4th quarter moments, like a HoF player, does not make up for an entire career made up of 3 quarters of non-action, or entire games of being non-existent.

While I do believe Horry should get his number retired, that will never happen either. The only team that should retire his name (the Lakers), won’t, because despite his clutch play, Horry was not the wheel that made the Lakers machine go.

I love Horry, and I really wish he had played this season. The Lakers-Spurs matchup in December gave me great hope that LA would pick him up to give their front court some veteran experience, and maybe teach a few tricks of the trade to Odom, Gasol, and Bynum.

But hey, atleast Cleveland didn’t pick him up. And in retrospect, thank god Orlando didn’t either. The old Robert Horry would have been a great pickup.

Which brings me to a comparison. When it’s all said and done, taking away any clutch shots he may have had, is Rashard Lewis a HoF player, despite having MUCH better statistical production throughout his career compared to Horry’s? Answering that question will tell you all you need to know on whether Robert deserves to be in the Hall.

what i really wanna know is this: does old man muff’s 7 rings make him higher on the fatshaqoneal “big man” ranking system than fat old shaq himself?

one of my favorite possessions is a refrigerator magnet of great moments in spurs history. this particular one features rob burying the game 5 clincher against detroit in 05. one of the greatest moments in my spurs life.

agreed with all of your reasoning why he isnt an HOFer…but dont be super shocked if he gets in. you know how HOF rules – and history of picking their residents – can be in sports these days. he would probably be a better pick than some who are already in.

This is from the official Hall of Fame page on K.C. Jones:

A hard-nosed, play-making guard, and defensive specialist, it would be hard to find a basketball personality who has had more success as a player and a coach than K.C. Jones. Jones enjoyed a phenomenal collegiate career playing with Bill Russell for Hall of Fame coach Phil Woolpert at the University of San Francisco. With the ball-hawking guard, the Dons won 57 of 58 games and captured back-to-back NCAA titles in 1955 and 1956. In 1956 Jones played on the U.S. Olympic Gold Medal team and then, soon after, the Boston Celtics where he was reunited with Russell. Dressed in green and white, Jones played admirably on eight consecutive NBA championship teams (1958-66), making a huge impact as a scrapping, hustling player. Jones coached Boston to the 1984 and 1986 NBA championships, and earned twelve NBA championship rings in his distinguished career.

At least statistically they were similar players. K.C. Jones was a very good defender however, something that cannot truly be measured statistically. He was also a successful coach. Does any of you see Horry coaching in the NBA? And if he wins a championship as a coach, then would you consider inducting him?