Stampler Says Hello From The Grave
Yeah, I know, I stopped writing, didn't tell anyone, didn't say good bye, I just quit, I suck, I suck, I suck. Mea Culpa my friends, mea culpa.
What can I say? Nothing. Which is why I left. I literally had nothing left to say. The Spurs playoff games were just terribly depressing to watch. I actually felt sorry for Tony out there, and I've never felt sorry for him before. Going out like that, in five games, to a mediocre Mavs team who themselves got their asses handed to them in the next round...
Well I don't want to say I told you so, but... you better believe I feel vindicated. Not that I wanted to be right necessarily. After all, I would've preffered to lose to ANYONE than the Mavs, but really I just wanted the season to end as soon as possible. It was just so damn frustrating watching them play without Manu, knowing they had no chance. It was just miserable. I was just sick and tired of it.
Now that we've had some time to reflect on it, I think we can make some definitive conclusions about the Spurs and the season.
1. Not only were the Spurs the worst Western Conference playoff team without Ginobili, regardless of their seed, but they lost in five games to the second worst team.
Who would've won a series between New Orleans and the Mavericks? Well, I'm sure lots of people would pick Dallas because they at least had a few close games with the Nuggets and never got blown out by 50 points or whatever, plus their guys seem to actually like their coach, unlike the NOOCH. However, New Orleans did beat Dallas in the playoffs handily the year before and CP3 would've been a nightmare match-up for Kidd. I think the Hornets would've taken that series.
2. Even with Manu, this team wasn't going to win squat.
Last year's playoff injury to Ginobili hurt a lot more than this year. The '08 team was neck-and-neck with the Lakers and I think a healthy Manu, especially at the level he was playing most of the season would've made the difference. This year the rest of the supporting cast was so old and decrepit that I'm not sure an '05 playoff Manu, an '03 playoff Duncan and an '09 playoff Tony could've propelled the rest of that sorry outfit to the title. They would've beaten Dallas, for sure, but getting by Denver would've been a dogfight and they would have nothing left for the Lakers.
3. George Hill was ready.
Am I crazy or was the kid one of our best players against the Mavs? He certainly didn't look intimidated or confused or soft out there. Definitely can't say that about some our grizzled veterans. Pop screwed up big time not playing him sooner.
4. Pop has lost his fastball.
I don't know how anyone can deny this anymore. He has become a caricature of himself and has taken his reluctance to play young, athletic players to absurd lengths. He ruined Mason for the season by making him the backup point guard. He was never the same after that. And now I think we can safely say that the Gooden acquisition ruined Bonner, as I feared it would. I'm not defending Matt. He was terrible and might need to find a new team. But it's undeniable that looking over his shoulder changed him for the worse. The guy's confidence is so damn fragile. Pop also should've played Bruce way more and Finley way less throughout the season.
Maybe he should pull a Pat Riley, retire to the front office and give the reigns to a younger assistant like Budenholzer who would have more patience with young players.
5. Even with a healthy Manu, this team can't contend if they don't find a decent small forward and either get something out of Mahinmi or find an athletic young big.
Pop only likes old guys, so could the Warriors make crazy ass Stephen Jackson available? They're going young anyway. Nachbar played in Europe last year and I think he's out there as a free agent. He'd be a nice rotation guy. Portland might have to give up Fernandez or Batum. People are out there and our front office better be looking. I want the roster to be dramatically different next year, but I realize it's most likely wishful thinking.
Anyway, that's all I feel like writing about the Spurs until I see some transaction cross the wire. I may lurk here from time to time and maybe even comment on something if it's interesting, but I don't know if/when I'm gonna write for PtR again. I don't want to say anything definitive and then let people down if I don't follow through with it or change my mind.
I have joined the prestigious Twitteratti recently and anyone and everyone is welcome to contact me there at twitter.com/aaronstampler
Have a nice summer everyone
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Adiós, Stampler. Hope your summer is pleasant, too, and that you won’t be a stranger.
by Lauri on May 20, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome back and good-bye? WTF! JK.
You’ve been missed. I definitely hope to read more Stampler stories/posts in the future. Maybe about the bar? How do you feel about Tennis? Hell, I’ll even be happy with a Soccer preview. :-)
Go join Manu’s facebook page… it’ll make you feel better. And it’ll definitely help you brush up on the Spanish.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
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by bellasa on May 20, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah, it completely makes me feel better to see that Manu is snorkeling with sharks. Now my mind is totally at ease. I swear my favorite basketball player is insane.
Give a man a chicken and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to chicken and he'll call you crazy and question your command of the English language.
by Aaronstampler on May 20, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
funny… I felt the same way about the sharks. At least he made it back home alive.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
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by bellasa on May 20, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my avatar is the ultimate proof he’s crazy. Manu Ginobili is just fucking batshit crazy.
Give a man a chicken and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to chicken and he'll call you crazy and question your command of the English language.
by Aaronstampler on May 20, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep… I so love that photo.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
Free George Hill! (member #3)
by bellasa on May 21, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot to mention… Great Post.
I wish I didn’t agree with most of it, but I do.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
Free George Hill! (member #3)
by bellasa on May 20, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice to see you on – no worries about the delay. i have totally quit watching the play-offs now that my team is out.
i think you are absolutely right about 1-3, but i am always the pop backer.
response #1 to item #4: name 3 coaches better than pop. they don’t exist.
response #2 to item #4: there is no question in my mind that roger was never the same after pop tinkered with him. however, that should be just as much roger’s fault as pop’s. roger had experience at point and his playing there was part of the deal when he signed. it was a reasonable expectation. to me, roger never did look right there – but some seemed to think that it was working out OK until the dallas series. either way, roger needed to work harder/play better. however, i do very much agree that pop should have given up on it more quickly.
same deal with gooden/matt. spurs sorely needed an inside presence and gooden provided that. matt was always in a role that was too big for him to fill – but he did it for a good chunk of the season. it is fair to fault pop for having bonner in such a spot, but there just weren’t that many guys available last off season. heck , re-signing kurt thomas was considered a big catch for us at one point.
…and hell yeah to more bar/drinking stories. i likes them.
by bones on May 20, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was going to say basically the same thing… so +1, and ditto.
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by LatinD on May 20, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t know if you’re going to write for PTR again? You mean during the Summer, right?
Nice to know you’re alive. Good points throughout, I agree with most of them. We definitely weren’t worse than NOOCH, though, and Pop’s a keeper.
Have a nice Summer, Stampizzle.
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by LatinD on May 20, 2009 5:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure an ‘05 playoff Manu, an ’03 playoff Duncan and an ’09 playoff Tony could’ve propelled the rest of that sorry outfit to the title.
Unless the rest of the outfit could manage to get negative points, I think they would have won a championship. Those guys can win a championship 3 on 5 if necessary : P
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on May 20, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that assertion doesn’t make sense. Was this year’s supporting cast really any worse than last year’s? It was essentially the same, only with Roger Mason taking Jacque Vaughn’s minutes, and Drew Gooden and KT taking Horry’s minutes. I don’t think Finley was appreciably better last year than this year. The real difference was Manu’s absence and Duncan’s drastic decline—otherwise the team was basically the same as the 2008 version that Stampler said had a chance to win a title.
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
by tomasito on May 20, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Answering a few questions…
@Bellasa: No, not really a big tennis fan. Don’t know too many players. I liked the female circuit in the 90s when there was some depth with Graf, Hingis, Sanchez-Vicario, Sabatini, Seles, Davenport, Capriati, Pierce, even Kournikova and I think the Williams sisters were just coming on to the scene.
Soccer season is just ending and I’m sad about that because this was the first year I really got into the EPL (English Premier League). I rooted for Liverpool because I really like Fernando Torres (positively dreamy) and Middlesbrough because they feature a Turkish player (Tuncay Sanli). Unfortunately Liverpool just lost out on the Premier League title to those Manchester United bastards despite beating them both times head-to-head, and they lost in the quarterfinals of the Champions League to Chelsea. ‘Boro’ meanwhile finished second to last in the league and will be relegated. Crap. Hopefully a bigger club will buy Tuncay and he’ll transfer out so I can watch his highlights next year.
No soccer previews for a while. The World Cup isn’t until next summer and I’m kind of bummed about it because despite having their best pool of talent ever, my Turks just can’t seem to put it all together and losing a couple of qualification heartbreakers to Spain means that they will need almost a miracle to qualify. (Here’s the table…) They’ll have to win their final four games and really hope that Bosnia-Herzogovina shit the bed. Turkey will need to win road games at Belguim and BH and BH’s final game will be against Spain who’s already clinched first place and will be playing backups by then. Not looking good.
re: Manu’s facebook page I’m awful at Spanish. He should write in English on Twitter for his American fans. Prick.
@Bones Actually I’m watching the other teams in the playoffs a lot more this year than years past when I would just watch the Spurs. I’ve been enjoying most of the games, Spurs aside. I knew Denver would blow that game last night because of all those missed free throws the first three quarters. That will always come back to bite you on the road. I also enjoyed both of Bostons’ series against Chicago and Orlando. I made a bet with my friend Roh that the Magic would win at least two games with Cleveland, so go Hedo. Turkish pride!
Also, I knew when push came to shove that the Gooden thing wouldn’t matter. He came too late to help, was too much of a defensive liability, and Pop just wasn’t going to trust him when it mattered. The only midseason guy that Pop has ever trusted/played right away was Nazr and that was only because he just needed defense and rebounding and he was just so goddamn fed up with Rasho’s softness that he was desperate for anyone. (And I liked ’sho, btw).
No more bar/drinking stories I’m afraid. The Mexicans who took over the place basically lied to me and laid me off a week after taking over. They didn’t even have the balls to just fire me. They just said “We’re not making much money now, we don’t have the money to pay employees, we’ll call you when things are better.”
This was a month ago. They still owe me like $120. I still work for Manoli’s family, doing all sorts of odd jobs. I buy their food (like $500 worth of stuff at a time) at a wholesale restaurant purveyor called ‘Restaurant Depot’ and other times I do things like shoveling dirt, which is decent exercise I guess. I’m looking for a real job.
@LatinD I really don’t know. Depends on a few things.
To everyone here, I encourage you all to follow me on twitter (twitter.com/aaronstampler) and I’ll answer questions there.
Give a man a chicken and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to chicken and he'll call you crazy and question your command of the English language.
by Aaronstampler on May 20, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Manu actually writes most of his comments in both Spanish and English lately. Or Italian, when he’s talking about his Kinder Bologna years.
Good luck with the job hunting, Aaron.
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by LatinD on May 20, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manu is awesome. He had a post last week where he wrote he was really nervous about the season finale of Lost. And tonight he said he just saw Angels & Demons and liked it, but there were a lot of differences from the book.
It’s like we’re the same person. We’re both even 31 year old lefties from another country who enjoy playing basketball.
Give a man a chicken and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to chicken and he'll call you crazy and question your command of the English language.
by Aaronstampler on May 21, 2009 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stampler i know you don’t know me and don’t care, but please don’t stop writing here or somewhere semi-public where I can read your stuff. I started reading this blog because of your writing and i stayed reading this blog because of your writing. While i like the insight brought by guys like ATS, LatinD, and rikkido – you’re just special damnit and i’m not afraid to say so. i hate twitter and refuse to do it, i actually don’t even know how it really works but everyone i know who does it is a deusche bag and so therefore i’m turned off to it, so i won’t twitter you to find out where or what you or doing. So if you are going to leave please post a farewell and if you are going to write elsewhere please post where that elsewhere will be.
thanks for hours of great reading over the past 3 years (how long i’ve been reading your stuff), it kept me sane at times, especially these last two seasons.
good luck on finding a job and in life
by staves27 on May 20, 2009 11:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks dude. I will keep people posted on what is going on. Right now, nothing is going on, so there is nothing to report.
Give a man a chicken and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to chicken and he'll call you crazy and question your command of the English language.
by Aaronstampler on May 20, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would read a recap of yours even if its about a bunch of kindergartens playing volleyball.
"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."
by Chilai on May 20, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“insight” hardly describes anything I do here. Stampler has more of that in his pinky than I do in my whole body. And yes, don’t leave us Stampizzle.
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by Tim C. on May 20, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah… “insight”? Maybe Wayne and rik. I google for cheerleader pics, that’s what I do.
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by LatinD on May 20, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like cheerleader pics. Unlike Wayne and Matthew, I see nothing sexist or shameful about admitting that I’m a single heterosexual male who enjoys looking at attractive women. I certainly wouldn’t begrudge Lauri or Bella looking at pics of hunky dudes.
Give a man a chicken and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to chicken and he'll call you crazy and question your command of the English language.
by Aaronstampler on May 21, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They swear that’s not why they watch the Spurs, and I believe them, but
Youāre better off trying to intimidate the sea. - LatinD
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by jollyrogerwilco on May 21, 2009 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we really wanted to look at hunky dudes, we’d be watching Soccer all day. Everyone knows that the Soccer players are where it’s at. Which reminds me… I need to start watching that game.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
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by bellasa on May 21, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh, you must have missed Wayne’s post about his admiration for the “I love you hard” Silver Dancer. What was her name?
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
Free George Hill! (member #3)
by bellasa on May 21, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know. But the most attractive woman I’ve ever seen at a Spurs game was one like two years ago when we were playing the Jazz. I’m too lazy to look it up now, but I remember blogging about the game (how rare for me!) and I was watching it with the spurs dynasty gang and when we saw her we literally just paused the TV, freaked out and just stared at the picture for like three minutes.
Give a man a chicken and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to chicken and he'll call you crazy and question your command of the English language.
by Aaronstampler on May 21, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pause live TV!!
The guys who invented TiVo can die happy now; their legacy secure.
Youāre better off trying to intimidate the sea. - LatinD
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by jollyrogerwilco on May 21, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember… and I think someone posted her photo? I remember thinking… that’s the girl from the local dodge dealership commercials. She’s very pretty. Here’s her wiki page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ara_Celi Sorry… no photo.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
Free George Hill! (member #3)
by bellasa on May 21, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mummy girl! She had the hots for Xander, I remember. Poor gal… she was just a mummy, in love.

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by LatinD on May 21, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m talking about Buffy, of course.
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by LatinD on May 21, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I find just the act of looking at cheerleaders “insightful” :)
by silverandblack_davis on May 21, 2009 3:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This site overflows with modesty…
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on May 21, 2009 6:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the interesting things about twitter is that there is no limit to the number of people that can get your updates (I wonder how many twitter users are aware of this). For example, even if you dont get a twitter account you can follow Stamplers updates with the following link:
RSS feed of Aaronstampler’s updates
Somebody that knows more about twitter can confirm this. Even if you dont want to join twitter because its silly, you can have the one way communication with Stampler. You just cant contact him through the service.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on May 21, 2009 6:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just learned something new. thanks
by staves27 on May 21, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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