The No-Dunk Zone
Midterms came and went, and I'm still standing. More or less. But now it's time to go back to the basics. What are the basics, you ask? Well, I'm afraid I'm a simple guy: to me, it's cheerleaders and dunks. Considering cheerleaders aren't meant for PTR, my options are obviously limited.
Fortunately, a week ago I came across a spectacular post in Roto Evil. I urge you to follow this link, read the post, bookmark the site and find happiness. Basically it contains the dunk stats for the regular season of 2008-09, clasified in more ways that you can shake a Shaq at. Evil E's comments are entertaining, and the information itself is eye-opening. Just do yourselves a favor and bookmark Roto Evil, okay?
This shout-out aside, when I read it from the viewpoint of a Spurs fan I thought it mirrored the consensus of the regulars in this blog. Or at least the consensus I like to think we've reached: the Spurs are as ancient and they are experienced, and they desperately need an injection of athleticism. Every Spurs fan knows that we hardly ever make a dunk, and we all see the wrinkles in Finley's weathered mug - but just how abominable is the situation? Is it really important and indicative of a dire reality? Or is it just a meaningless aspect of this game?
We'll break down the data, after the jump.
The first table in Evil E's post is a long list detailing the numbers of dunks made by each NBA player this season. There're a lot of gems to be found there, like the resurgence of used-to-be-Superman Shaquille O'Neal. The guy can't keep his mouth shut, but he can still throw it down. Regardless, I'll just focus on the information I thought would be useful for us Spurs fans.
Dunks Per Player:
| Rank | Player | # of Dunks |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Dwight Howard | 202 |
| ... | ||
| 125 | Tim Duncan | 24 |
| 125 | Robin Lopez | 24 |
| ... | ||
| 133 | Pops Mensah-Bonsu | 21 |
| 149 | Drew Gooden | 17 |
| 157 | Rasheed Wallace | 16 |
| 195 | George Hill | 10 |
Right at the top is current-Superman Dwight "I let people jump over me" Howard. He had an astounding 202 dunks in 79 games, or 2.56 dunks per game. That's exactly they kind of stat you'd expect from a dominant center of incredible physical fortitude, who is both the star of his team and completely devoid of a jumper or true post up skills. (A staggering 84% of his shots were dunks, tip-ins and layups. In fact, his Hotspots chart is high comedy.) Dwight is in fact exhibit A that atheticism is one of the primary tools in this league, and it can patch up many deficiencies.
The first Spur in the list is none other than Timmy Duncan, then man, the legend, the wizard. Unfortunately, he's 124 spots below, and shares the 125th rank with Robin López, both having made 24 slamma jammas. López, mind you, is just the 5th dunker on his team, the Suns. Granted, they are the second best dunking team in the league, but when a role player who could be Varejao's less-annoying twin and who has been posterized more often than Greg Ostertag matches your de-facto star center, I believe we can all agree that merits a blink or two. Furthermore, Evil E points out that Duncan saw a big decline this year, going from 43 to 24. In my opinion, that was probably caused by a combination of two factors: the obvious one, Tim's age, and what Tim Varner pointed out a few months ago regarding the changes in Duncan's game during the regular season, meant to protect his body for the playoffs. The silver lining I find is that Duncan's game never relied so much in his athleticism as it did on his basketball skills, so the drop-off from 24 dunks to no dunks whatsoever should be negligible.
Still... 24 dunks?
Ranked 149th and 195th are Spurs players Drew "Buh-bye San Antonio" Gooden and George "The Hope" Hill, with 17 and 10 dunks respectively (only 7 of those 17 were made while Drew dressed in white, black and silver, though). And that's it - those are the three Spurs in the top 200 dunkers of this league. (Honorable mention to Malik Hairston, who had 8 dunks in just a few games. Oh, Malik...) By the way, please note that Gooden is unlikely to continue with the Spurs next year. To add insult to injury, I included Pops' stats, and Evil E twists the knife mentioning that Pops threw down those 21 jams in just 283 total minutes. Rasheed, who many believe could be our big off-season pickup, is listed on the 157th spot - how big of an inside presence can you have when you're stationed at the 3-point line?
I'm sure all of you have noticed the absence of our bigs in that list. Don't worry, though - they're the stars of the next one.
Tallest Players Without a Dunk:
| Rank | Player | Height | Minutes Played |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Steve Novak | 6-10 | 1,161 |
| 2 | Fabricio Oberto | 6-10 | 677 |
| 3 | Kurt Thomas | 6-9 | 1,404 |
Now you can tell yourselves: "At least we don't start Steve Novak!" However, as Evil E points out, Novak is at least an efficient outside threat, making 42% of his triples in the season. What's Kurt's and Oberto's excuse? We can make a case for Kurt, because for a stretch in December/Janury he was our second best player and carried the load while Tim was struggling with his tendonosis. His long 2-point Js, when accurate, stretch the floor, and he has a knack for snaring offensive rebounds. On the other hand, Oberto's jumper is flatter than a pancake, his rebounding rate has gone down, and he was never able to get in rhythm this season because of his heart problems. I'm sorry, Fab-o - I love you, I really do, but right now you're not helping the Spurs in any shape or form. These days seem long gone.
Surprisingly enough, Bonner didn't make it to this list: out starting "center" had four dunks this season. I wanted to include one of them to this post, but apparently they didn't make it to any highlight reels in YouTube. Instead I'll just embed a video of his 2008 counterpart walking right in front of the refs. What a boner!
Going to the 3-point line? How odd
I'm aware that I'm not giving you any new information here. We all know how unathletic we are, and those of us able to watch them regularly are often surprised by the rare dunk, but I for one was surprised by the cold numbers. Dunk stats, actually, might be particularly effective in matching the impressions lefts in us after so many games watched: a dunk is often a spectacular play that lingers, that you remember even months later. We all believe Hill might be part of the answer to the "How are the Spurs going to inject some youth and athleticism to their team?" query, but what do they numbers say? The next table puts his achievements in perspective:

You can take my daughter to her prom any time, George
Most Dunks by Players Under 6-foot-4:
| Rank | Player | # of Dunks | Height |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Russell Westbrook | 59 | 6-3 |
| 9 | George Hill | 10 | 6-2 |
That's right, Hill is only 6-2. He simply compensates with his 7-3 wingspan, I guess. George was able to throw 10 slams in just 1,270 minutes, and he did it despite playing nothing but "Spurs basketball". Those dunks were a product and a mark of his youth and his energy, just as Pop's and Malik's were. They put smiles on our faces even though we knew they had little chance of earning a spot in the roster, not because we enjoy dunks -which we do- but because they represented a palpable hope for the future.
So remember: George Hill is, for his height, one of the best dunkers in the league. Let's move on to the next table.
Gramps can ball too!
(Ismael Roldán's the artist)
Most Dunks by Players Over 30:
| Rank | Player | # of Dunks | Age |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Shaquille O'Neal | 180 | 36 |
| 10 | Tim Duncan | 24 | 32 |
It's not Timmy's fault. There are only 9 players of his approximate age who have outdunked him this year. He was never knowns for his hops, and as age catches up to him he will have to adjust further. Shaquille, on the other hand, is both an absolute physical marvel and completely dependent on his ability to dunk. His productivity and this stat will be closely tied in the following years. Duncan, however, can outgrow it.
Again, this begs the question: is Shaquille in any way better than Tim because he can still dunk? Of course not, in any way, shape or form. Tim is a force on the defensive end, and Spurs fan know that it's there that championships are usually won. Besides, anyone who saw him play that fifth game in the playoffs against the Mavericks knows that he can still get his points. However, could it be meaningful if you take the team as a whole? Let's take a look now at the best and worst dunking teams in the league.
Most Dunks by a Team:
| Rank | Team | Key Players | # of Dunks |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Nuggets | Nene (142), K-Mart (108), Melo (64), Birdman (64), Kleiza (45), Balkman (33), D. Jones (29), JR Smith (28), Others (7) | 520 |
| 2 | Suns | Shaq (180), Amare (109), J-Rich (59), Amundson (37), R. Lopez (24), G. Hill (23), Barnes (20), Others (18) | 470 |
| 3 | 76ers | Iguodala (152), Dalembert (84), Speights (81), Young (68), Lou Williams (20), Brand (16), Ratliff (15), Others (17) | 453 |
| 4 | Lakers | Gasol (120), Bynum (100), Ariza (66), Kobe (59), Odom (36), Powell (16), Farmar (9), S. Brown (7), Others (25) | 438 |
| 5 | Blazers | Aldridge (107), Oden (99), Przybilla (61), Outlaw (57), Batum (39), Roy (28), Fernandez (26), Bayless (9), Others (9) | 435 |
| ... | |||
| 26 | Pistons | Maxiell (88), Prince (47), Amir (32), K. Brown (25), Sheed (16), McDyess (10), Stuckey (5), Herrmann (4), Others (7) | 234 |
| 27 | Rockets | Yao (76), Landry (65), Wafer (25), Artest (11), Scola (7), T-Mac (2), B. Barry (2), Battier (2), Others (4) | 194 |
| 28 | Timberwolves | Carney (39), Love (37), Jefferson (37), M. Miller (18), Foye (15), C. Smith (10), Gomes (7), S. Williams (5), C. Brewer (4), Others (12) | 184 |
| 29 | Pacers | Hibbert (35), Murphy (25), Granger (20), Daniels (17), S. Graham (15), B. Rush (15), Foster (14), Nesterovic (13), Baston (6), Others (7) | 167 |
| 30 | Spurs | Duncan (24), G. Hill (10), Hairston (8), Gooden (7), Finley (6), Bonner (4), Udoka (4), Ginobili (3), Others (7) | 73 |
Honestly, I found this table inconclusive. There seem to be better teams in average in the top five than in the bottom five, but honestly, the inclusion of the Suns (a fundamentally flawed team) in the second spot indicates that this is a statistic that is easily influenced by the proclivities of your top players. Any teams that includes Amarè, Shaq, Howard or Iguodala will suddenly skyrocket in this list, regardless of overall quality or team philosophy. However, the difference between the Spurs and the second worst team, the Pacers, is mind-blowing. 94 dunks! Evil E does the math, and tells us it translates to just .89 dunks per game. That's right - we average less than a dunk per game. 32 individual players had more total dunks this past season, and it's 9 dunks fewer than we had in the 2007-08 season.
I made a half-hearted attempt to look for the reasons, with the hypothesis that the likely explanations were either our height or our age. The average height for the top 5 teams and for the bottom 5 is in both cases 6-7, at least considering the entire roster, so for the moment I decided to focus on our age. (I considered the entire rosters, though, so a better comparison could've been made by averaging the heights of each team's bigs.) Lo and behold, the average age of the top 5 teams is 26,6 years, whereas the bottom 5 average 27,9 years. The Spurs has by far the oldest roster of the teams listed, reaching 29,9 years if you consider two youngsters that didn't play a single minute in the entire season: Ian Mahinmi and Marcus Williams. Our starters as chosen by yours truly (Tim, Tony, Manu, Kurt and Finley) go all the way up to 32,4 years.
Guys, we're old. OLD.
Young teams that hope to compete for a title usually try to sign veteran players to lead them to a championship. Wouldn't it make sense for veteran teams with experience to spare to look for youngters to carry them through the regular season? 82 games put a major toll on an athlete's body, and yet we're forcing our plus-30-year-old stars to toil every night because our second unit is both unathletic and underskilled. It affects the way we play, too - let's look at 82games.com's stats for shot selection.

"I'm not going to take it any more!"
Shot Selection:
| Shot | Att. | eFG% | Ast | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jump | 71% | .477 | 65% | 54.2 |
| Close | 26% | .592 | 44% | 24.6 |
| Dunk | 1% | .948 | 70% | 1.8 |
| Tips | 1% | .563 | 0% | 1.2 |
I wonder what percentage of that 26% represents Tony's layups and Timmy's short hooks? This is what bothers me the most about Evil E's post: we are and have been fod a long time now a team that depends completely on its outside shooters. The old saying goes: you live by the three, you die by the three. As far as clichés go, this one holds some truth, and we all saw the consequences of depending on streaky shooters like Bonner and Finley last month. I wrote a post in my blog just the other day about a dunk tutorial the great Red Auerbach had on "Roundball", the set of national TV spots he did during the 70s. There Red said, regarding dunks:
"There you saw the highest percentage shot in basketball - if you're careful."
Exactly. Dunks are not just flashy crowd-pleasers - they're also efficient shots that are nearly impossible to block without fouling, and even then it's a gamble. (I know Reggie Miller probably wishes he had dunked the ball that one time.) Going strong to the basket usually results in free throws, especially during the playoffs when points are hard to come by. That's one of Ginobili's greatest strengths - when the shots aren't falling, he cradles the balls and goes in. That's what Timmy does. That's what none of our other bigs can do.
Maybe I'm making a big deal out of nothing, I don't know. Or maybe Yawn (who had 3 dunks in 2007/08, in just 23 minutes) will actually play next season and render these stats meaningless. Right now, though, I'm worried about my favorite team. As I said above, athleticism is one of the most important tools in the NBA, and we're blatantly ignoring it. I think it's time to change, Pop, and look for new blood and fresh legs in the offseason instead of battered veterans and limited role players. I agree with those of you saying that Ariza might be our answer at the SF spot, especially after watching him play against the Rockets. But I guess that's material for another post.
Right now, lay back and enjoy a short stroll down memory lane:
You can't take the sky from meeee
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You know when BDL brought this up awhile back, I saw your comment. I figured it had to be you considering I think you’re the only LatinD running around the internet. Good post, dude.
I brought this up in tidbits actually throughout the season. By putting in Bonner and Mason into the starting line up and making them part of the rotation, the team, this season, became nothing but jumpshooters. Add that to the fact that Tony’s jumper is something you can rely on, and Timmy this season was encouraged to take more jumpshots than he ever had in his career, the points the paint are gone. At least in 2008, Oberto/Elson brought in the occasional lay up. Not to mention, Manu was shredding defenses left and right.
And finally its a lot easier to get dunks in a fast paced game. Which is why the Magic, who have the dunk leader, aren’t top 5 because they play half court. Our team is about as half court as you get, combine THAT with the old age = no dunks. The Blazers are an anomaly as they play half court but get lots of dunks because they’re all so young and athletic.
jesus, Oberto just looks scared as hell being that high up in the air on that dunk picture
What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)
the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post
by Hamer_SpursFan on May 17, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions
I always thought that good teams dont dunk much. But this is ridiculous.
Im fine with the spurs not dunking the ball much, but what’s frigthening to me is the low percentage of close shots we make (and take). Im in for the signing of Sheed (with Ian coming off the bench) but we need a real badass at the wing positions. Someone who can get up and run and attack the basket. The league is FULL of atlhetic SF’s, its a shame we dont use one.
Lets start the START Malik campaign! We cant afford nothing better than him, and our current options are niche players right now (finley, udoka, bowen).
"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."
Malik is undersized for a SF. He still impressed me with his D on Lebron, but I think we’ll be seeing what Marcus Williams is capable of, and Malik will hopefully come back and play the 2. Mason doesn’t need to be playing the amount of minutes he did last season, and we need to use Manu sparingly until the playoffs, if possible.
Does anyone know if Fin has picked up his player option for next season? We could really use a total overhaul at SF(which Fin shouldn’t be playing anyway).
Free James Gist!
The problem with mason is not in the minutes he plays. Its in the position he plays them. As a catch and shoot guy he is a killer. OTher way he is a below average player in every aspect.
"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."
I’m sure Finley is vacationing and not thinking about basketball right now. I do think he will come back though, its an easy million, wouldn’t you take it to sit around on the bench?
What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)
the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post
by Hamer_SpursFan on May 18, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Now let me ask you all a question, since this was the most eye-opening part of the article for me:
Compared to their time on the court, which players throw it down most frequently? For ‘08-09, the winner is Shaquille O’Neal, boasting 1 dunk every 12.5 minutes or 3.8 dunks per 48. Ryan Hollins was a close 2nd, with DeAndre Jordan and Pops Mensah-Bonsu right behind him. Are these "high-energy" players deserving of more minutes? And is there a correlation between dunks and offensive rebounds? Well, among players with 250+ minutes, Mensah-Bonsu was 1st, Oden was 3rd, and Maxiell was 8th in offensive boards per minute (all three were in the Top 10 in dunks per minute) this past season.
Yea that’s right – Pops was first in the league in offensive rebounds per minute. Wanna know where our Spurs ranked in offensive rebounding? Dead last, and it wasn’t even close – also, check the teams at the top of that list – young and athletic. Shocking, huh?.
Why didn’t we give RC more shit over letting Pops go?
They better not pull this kind of thing next season. I say we sign all the “kids” we have readily available in the pipeline. Hairston, Gist, Marcus Williams – give ‘em all some PT and we might be able to field a bench that other teams are legitimatly scurred of. And a healthy Ian can’t hurt either.
Imagine this actually realistic “smallball” lineup coming in off the bench:
George Hill
Malik Hairston
Marcus Williams
James Gist
Ian Mahinmi
Sweet FSM, that is sexy. So much speed, so much athleticism, so much mojo. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to uhhh… take care of something.
Free James Gist!
btw LD, you think we should have a follow-up to this post? As far as what the solutions may be? You’ve got me brainstorming now.
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Sure, rik. The more posts the better, right?
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Oh lord, i like that.
I was reading some simmons today (yeah i know i hate it too, but still i always end up reading his things) and he nailed a point about the full court press: a team could have its traditional lineup to start (for example parker, Manu, finley, Duncan Thomas) and then off the bench to match with the other team subs (hopefully full of not so talented players) the team could change completely its tactic and put 5 atlhetic-unknown players who get paid little money to run a full court press for 5-8 minutes. Do that twice in the game (again at the end of the 3rd or to start the 4th) and those 15 minutes could make a huge difference in a game. And that’s where your proposed lineup comes into play, because I think that Hill, Hairston, Williams, Gist and Ian fit the bill perfectly. They have a lot to prove, so they will give their 100% even against the Grizzlies in a january game. And the other teams wont see it coming, they wont be prepared.
(this is the last time I will use a Simmons strategy on the spurs, i swear it)
"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."
Chil…
Thats exactly what the spurs did in the home game against cleve..
Our lineup of…what was it….PoPs,Malik,JV,George and someone else…..was killing Clevelands bench. We were down by 20, and i think this group got us within 9.
Just doing a full court press every time, and finding offense in pure pick and rolls….
I remember that game. Now… replace the JV with a basketball player and you got a game changing unit.
"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."
For a while now, I’ve contemplated something that might be construed as crazy, and left it out of the article I wrote. BUT…
What if Tony came off the bench instead of Manu? Let Hill be out there running the show with guys who know what they’re doing, and have Tony be the glue that holds the “kids” team together. It seems risky, but it also seems like the potential for a huge payoff is there.
Free James Gist!
epic post.
and depressing as hell.
i was worried about our athleticism last season. yeah, we got to the conference finals, and were probably only a manu ankle away from facing the celtics, but i could already see the writing on the wall. sure, with a healthy manu and tim we would’ve been contending again this season, but thats the point – those guys weren’t healthy, and that exposed our age when they weren’t 100%.
thats the reason why i’ve got “free george hill” in my sig (besides the fact that i think he’s a better option than romaju as the backup point), and the reason why i wanted pops to stay – we need youth and athleticism. this lack of dunking is symbolic of our lack in that department (though obviously thats not the reason for wanting more athleticism…though its a nice bonus).
free george hill!
by sleep research facility on May 17, 2009 11:58 PM CDT reply actions
SRF, I have something for you.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 18, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha classic.
free george hill!
by sleep research facility on May 18, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
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Good post. I agree with you most about it being a high percentage shot that’s hard to block or even contest without fouling. That’s the best point you made among a litany of good points.
I saw Fab dunk a ball with my own eyes, live and in-person, against the Wiz on our PtR road trip, so that gives him at least one for the year.
Lots of dunks don’t necessarily equal a good team, but a dearth of dunks does indicate a lack of athleticism. I like your point about being a veteran-laden team needing some energy, in contrast to younger teams needing a veteran presence. I would guess that most teams get most of their dunks out of the 2-3-4 positions, and I would further guess that we are among the least athletic teams in the league at those spots (with Manu hobbling or on crutches). Realistically, to be a top-tier team, we would need at least two, and more likely three, impact players at those positions. I’m not sure where they’ll come from, but hopefully some combo of Hairston/Gist/Mahinmi/Williams can do something useful for us next year.
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Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Poor Fab-o. He gets no respect, not even from the 82Games.com geeks. :)
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Great post LD. I have not yet survived my finals yet and so that is why I haven’t been around so much. The Auerbach quote is great. And not only are they the highest percentage of shots but they can be a real kick start if a team isn’t playing well. Dunks don’t only energize fans- players are human too.
...formerly known as speedostuffer
Oh for the love of FSM, Tim Duncan is not human. No human can play with such passion, determination, loyalty, selflessness, humility, and grace.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
Props LatinD!
As the man behind RotoEvil, I had to join Pounding the Rock after reading LatinD’s excellent commentary on my Slam Dunk article. I appreciate the shout out, and I REALLY appreciate how much thought he put into his follow-up analysis.
When I posted the ‘07-08 dunk stats a year ago, another Spurs site (I don’t remember which one) posted the link and most of the people seemed to brush it off and assume that I was simply a Suns fan hating on the Spurs. Not the case. It was apparent a year ago that the Spurs needed to add some youth and athleticism, and I actually hyped up Ian Mahinmi on more than one occasion last season after checking out his D-League stats and reading the scouting report on him.
So I’m curious… do you guys think Yawn (it took me awhile to figure that one out, love it) will be a key rotation player next season? I know he battled injuries this year, but do Popovich and Buford still consider him to be a piece of the puzzle moving forward?
Also, I’m surprised LatinD didn’t say something about my “Tiago Splitter, where art thou?” comment. I realize the guy still has 2 years left on his contract, but the possibility of bringing him over has to be a ray of hope for you guys. From the footage I’ve seen, he appears to be VERY long and mobile with a nice offensive game. Any thoughts on Splitter? Ideally, he’ll be able to get at least 2 years of tutelage under Duncan before the inevitable happens.
Sorry for “twisting the knife” with Pops, but it had to be done. The guy was a beast in limited minutes, and I’m surprised it took him this long to catch on with a team. I can understand Dallas letting him go since they already had Brandon Bass, but how did the Spurs let him slip away?
And lastly, what’s wrong with showing cheerleaders?
Again, big props to LatinD for his excellent commentary and the shout out. I hope some of you listened to him and bookmarked my site. My specialty is winning (and helping others win) fantasy basketball leagues, but I think my site brings a lot more to the table in terms of general hoops and other things as well. Likewise, I’ll be sure to come visit Pounding the Rock whenever I’m looking for insight on the Spurs.
PEACE,
Eric Wong AKA Evil E
www.RotoEvil.com
The spurs have invested a lot in Yawn. But long story short, he has glass ankles
"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."
Hey, Eric, thanks for dropping by. Some answers for you:
- First of all, I don’t understand how anyone could construe your posts as anti-Spurs. You can’t argue against a stat, and all your conclusions were logical. We are unathletic, and sticking our head in the sand won’t change that fact. Let’s discuss instead whether it’s important or not if your goal is to win a championship.
- I imagine Mahinmi is a big part of Pop and Buford’s plan. They’ve waited for him for a couple of years now. The thing is, us fans have put him out our minds, after so many false starts. If he comes, great, but we certainly can’t depend on it.
- Tiago, now, I plan to completely ignore till the 2010/11 season. He won’t come next season, so at this point he’s a pipe dream.
- Nothing wrong with cheerleaders, as evidenced by my blog’s name… :)
(Other than the Heat Dancers winning the Dance Bracket for four straight years. I like them just fine, but it’s time fans start appreciating the Rockets Power Dancers, dammit!)
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-Ian should be part of our franchise moving forward. His ankles are a concern but I think most fans around here feel like he should be a solid contributor next season.
-Tiago broke our hearts by resigning with his current team and we’re not about to get our hopes up again.
-Cheerleaders aren’t aloud round here.
...formerly known as speedostuffer
Have no idea why the fu%$ the FO didnt keep pops…….
" Well he played no defense, and he sort of mouthed off during one of his postgame interviews"
Methinks it would be far more beneficial to the team to have Pops take a few defensive possesions off in the middle of his dunking and rebounding stints…..than watch Fabio ride the bench for the entire season.
Its ridiculous…how much was pop set to make next season? A piddly $500,000?
Around these parts “mouthed off” equals “spoke with confidence about his skills and his desire to be allowed more time to help the team with the aforementioned skills.”
You’re better off trying to intimidate the sea. - LatinD
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why should someone in a Spurs uniform have confidence? That’s definitely not aloud! ooh I’m mad just thinking about Pops’ asinine comments…
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I’m mad too; especially now that I’ve seen his dunk/minute and offensive rebound numbers, but I’ve got to think (knowing the Spurs organization as we do) that somebody had said something about what was expected of newbies and talking to the press. I’ve just got to believe that Pops knew what he was doing — or was simply rolling the dice with his comments. * sigh *
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Free George Hill! (member #4)
HOLY SH*T is all I could say when I viewed the table and the Spurs were way
"down und-uh". Thank goodness the single factor evaluated does make the table inconclusive to anything but who has the most dunk stats. No indication of who is a better team :> .
Hey, I like the half hearted attempt to make some sense of this, none- the- less. Really, if nothing else it seems obvious that we definitely need youth injected with a large bore needle into the Spurs and let them deliver & compliment efficiently our 2 non-human veteran players to lead the way… the human one’s too IF they have something to give.
by cojones2thewall on May 19, 2009 10:58 PM CDT reply actions

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