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Informal PTR FAQ

Something completely different while we wait for the shitstorm to die and morale is at an all-time low after losing the game we were obviously going to lose...

Okay. It's like this: ATS has offered me to participate more in the site, writing short posts to add some meat to the blog - like I do in my own blog, Dunkin' Cheerleaders. (I just linked to my own site, how shameless... Oops! I did it again! My bad.) I'm not sure what I could possibly talk about that would be even remotely interesting, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Hopefully it will at least tide you over in between Stampler's great posts. We'll see what happens.

I agreed because I find blogging entertaining, and because I believe a blog is only strengthened by the contributions of its members, no matter how big or small. Even the posts you people write in the game threads are important: there was a time when I came back to PTR once and again just to read Stampler's and Matthew's posts, but now I think I would keep coming even if Stampler stopped writing - if only because commenting on the game threads has become in my mind a synonym to watching the games themselves.

With that idea in mind, I thought it'd be useful to write a short post that would work as a sort of Pounding the Rock Unofficial FAQ - a simplified version of SB Nation's tutorial (which I intend to plagiarize unapologetically) that would deal with the basics of writing a FanPost or adding a FanShot. Not too long ago new user turnitin wrote a pretty interesting post that was difficult to read because it lacked any formatting whatsoever, and there are people who refrain from pasting images in the game threads because they're not familiar with the icons used. SB Nation offers help in all these cases, but it might be daunting for new users to incorporate so much information.

If you guys have any suggestions for questions to add to my improvised FAQ, please go ahead and add them in the comments section, and I'll edit my post accordingly. And just for the record, this is by no means an official Pounding the Rock FAQ.

Let's get right to it:

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- So... Pounding the Rock. Why that name?

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You're obviously not a Spurs fan, but I guess this question belongs in a FAQ. Instead of explaining properly, I'll just link you to one of the many articles that love to talk about this picturesque aspect of Spurs' philosophy.


Who's in charge here? Are there any rules?

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This blog was originally created by one Matthew Powell, blogger extraordinaire. He has recently retired, though, so the infamous Wayne Vore has stepped in as The Man. He goes by the nick AusTechSpur when he trolls around brown-nosing Tony Parker, and he claims he has plans for the site. Scary.

We have plenty of rules. In fact, there's nothing we love more in this blog than rules - okay, maybe Manu comes first, but rules are third to nothing. You might want to take a look at the community guidelines, which everybody loves and fears. Hipuks and Aaronstampler for instance are strong advocates of the rules, so you might not want to be caught breaking them in their posts. Yeah... we're a strict bunch.


- I love lurking in here/participating just in the game threads. Why bother writing FanPosts?

I know the sentiment. Writing in a blog takes time and it's not for everyone - only those willing to destroy their free time. However, many times I've seen people write long, well though-out comments that are lost amongst the multitude of silly one-liners and semi-relevant photos posters like me favor. That's the type of thing that I feel would be perfect for FanPosts, and it's a pity when people who didn't delve into the unfathomable depths of a game thread miss it.

AusTechSpur told me that he's thinking of inviting more people to write for the front page. That's a great idea, and already adopted by many of the SB Nation blogs. That's another great thing about FanPosts - they can be easily moved to the front page, thus giving insightful regulars like Big50, rick2g (where are you, man?), scrappy, tomasito, SiMA et al the attention they deserve. I know that I've seen some great FanPosts through the season, and they merited the spotlight, in my opinion.


- What's the difference between FanShots and FanPosts?

SB Nation says FanPosts are for "publishing substantial ideas, opinions and inquiries". There's therefore a minimum number of words, set to 70 in PTR if I remember correctly (hardcore facts, that's what this FAQ offers). In practice, FanPosts can and should be used for anything you want to share, regardless of its length. Just a few paragraphs where you share your thoughts on the Spurs' latest disaster can jumpstart a nice back-and-forth between the regulars that might lead us to discover a solution to cold fusion. Hey, you never know.

For relevant links, photos, quotes or videos FanShots do come in handy.


- I like Manu just fine, but my favorite Spur is actually Tony Parker. Should I say so?

Sure... if you want to be a pariah.


- I just want to share a link to a good article I just read, but if I put it in a FanShot no one will read it. Can I use a FanPost instead?

It's true that some people ignore the FanShots section, but the only way to change that is by actively using it. I -like many of you, I imagine- spend a lot of time each day just browsing through the Interwebs looking for interesting articles, videos and photos related to the Spurs and the NBA in general. By sharing those articles with our fellow PTRers we can make life easier for them, and for us too, once this feature gets going. Particularly interesting FanShots can also be easily moved to the front page, once again ensuring they get the attention they deserve.


- Say I want to actually add a FanShot, is there any easy way to add them?

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Why, thanks for asking. YES, there is a way. In the FanShots menu there is a button that allows you to add a FanShot with just a single click. Just add it to your favorites section or drag it to your bookmarks bar in Firefox, and click on it when you come across an interesting video/picture/article. Add the tags, teams, players and events (I'll explain this later) and click on "publish" to add it to the PTR lore. It's so simple that I have the button both in my home and work computers. But don't tell my boss.


- Okay, I'm sold: I'm going to write my own FanPost. What's that about formatting?

Yay for me. I'm such a silver-tongued devil.

Formatting is what separates a great-yet-impossible-to-read post from a great-do-you-want-to-write-for-ESPN-we'll-pay-you post. There's no need to get fancy, even if the new SB Nation template gives you the ability to, if ever feel inclined to experimenting. Just the basics will do for your day-to-day postage, though.

There are two modes available for writing your FanPosts: WYSIWYG, which stands for What You See Is What You Get (what a long acronym - those SB Nation dudes are hilarious... ...) and HTML. You can flip back and forth between the modes, which is useful when you're writing a post using HTML code and want to check how it looks.

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WYSIWYG is the easiest for those of us who haven't learned much HTML. It's basically a watered-down version of a word processor, and the editor allows you to edit your entry as it will look when published. Highlight text and use the buttons to apply formatting. If you make some text bold, it will appear bold. If you blockquote a paragraph, you'll see the blockquote as it will look when published.

HTML coding is more difficult, but it also gives you more freedom to customize your post. I'll go back to this later, but know that SB Nation is now using the "XHTML 1.0 Strict" document type. XHTML is a markup standard very similar to HTML, incorporating some qualities of XML and a few changes to tags and usage. There are some handy tutorials provided by the SB Nation folks to guide you through the wonders of XHTML.


- The Spurs are winning the game easily, but there's still a lot of time left in the game. Should I risk calling the victory?

Eh... if you must. But be aware that if the Spurs lose you'll turn into a big, fat pariah.


- Why are FanPosts broken into two parts, "Intro Paragraph" and "Entry Body"? What's the use of that?

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There's no length limit for FanPosts - you can ramble on for pages and pages and no one will mind. Heck, we might encourage it. However, whatever you add in the "Intro Paragraph" section will be displayed in the FanPosts page, or in the front page were your FanPost to be moved there. If that were to happen long texts with many images or tables will push down other posts, virtually hiding them from the eyes of eventual visitors.

If you do make use of the "Entry Body" field, readers will see a "Continue reading this post "" link. The full entry page of your FanPost will show both the intro paragraph and entry body. Useful, innit?


- Formatting: what do I absolutely need to know?

The WYSIWYG toolbar should be more or less self-explanatory for people of the Microsoft Office generation. However, there are a few new things that you need to know.

Paragraphs. Anytime you hit the RETURN key, a new paragraph is created (shown as a two line break). If you don't want to create a new paragraph just hold the SHIFT key at the same time you hit RETURN, and a single line break will be shown.

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Blockquotes.
They are used for visually calling out a quote from another source in your FanPost. Just select the portion of your FanPost that you want to include in the blockquote and click the blockquote (quotation marks) button. This is also available in the comments sections of FanPosts and Game Threads.

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Links.
To add one to either a FanPost or a comment, first type out and highlight the text that you want to have serve as the linked text. Next, click on the link button. This will pop-up a small window where you can either type or paste the URL to create the link.

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Images.
Place your cursor in text area where you want to insert an image. Click on the image button on the toolbar and a blue window should open. Type or paste in a URL to an image, click the "Import" button and voila - your image will be displayed in the editor. You can then resize it so that its width will fit in your FanPost by clicks and dragging one of the edges of the image.

Since the image is imported to the SB Nation server the source of the image will be inserted along with the image, including a link back to the originating website. Delete this at your discretion. For images inserted in comments, the process is equivalent, but the image isn't imported so it needs to be hosted elsewhere.


- So... you don't use HTML at all?


That's not quite true. If you want to add tables, for instance, you're stuck with HTML tags. Personally, I use them mostly to center images and their captions, by going to HTML mode and adding a "<p align="center">" before the image, and a "</p>" tag after the caption. (An HTML wizard, I ain't.)

In any case, remember to keep your tags properly nested and be sure to close every tag you open, even <br /> and <img /> tags. Use lowercase tags, and wrap attributes in quotes. Learn more about this here, and here.


- Is it Argentine or Argentinian?

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FSM says it's Argentine for people, and Argentinian for everything else. And you wouldn't want to disagree with FSM, would you?


- You suck at explaining this stuff. Where can I find some real help to learn how to format my posts?

Well, there's SB Nation's tutorial for reading about the WYSIWYG mode. There are plenty of HTML tutorials you can read in the WWW, but SB Nation suggests this one.


- You keep bringing up tags. Why are they important, and why should I bother?

Tags are basically a list the general topics, categories, players, teams and games that help describe the subject matter of your FanPost. What's important is that many of SB Nation's new features are based on them. They not only help your eventual readers find your FanPost or quickly figure out what it's about, they also connect your post to similar ones in Pounding the Rock or other SB Nation blogs. And for those of you who read my post the other day featuring the new tools available, the team, player and event pages are all based on the tags system. More on this below.

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Common tags can be anything you want them to be, and to add one just type in the field labeled "tags". Each new tag should be separated by a comma, and tags that have been previously used will pop up in the auto-complete menu.

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As I mentioned the other day, SB Nation blogs now have special pages for teams and players. If you fill in the "team" and "player" tags properly your FanPost will show in the appropriate team or player pages - and that's pretty neat, if you ask me.

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Also, much like the pages for players and teams, there are pages for each "event" or game the Spurs play. And just as you can add your FanPost to player or team pages, it also works for events.

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To attach an event to your FanPost click the green "Attach Event" button. A blue window will open that displays a team or sport schedule. If you don't see the event or game you want to attach to your FanPost, click the big blue "Next" arrow button at the bottom of the window to page through the schedule. Once you've found the event you want, click the 'add' link on the same row.

Remember, tags can cure most common diseases. And halitosis.


- Okay, my FanPost didn't come out as I wanted to. Now what?

You can always edit yours FanPost, whether you've already published them or not. Just click on the "Edit" button at the bottom of the post, and make whatever changes you deem necessary. Afterwards, if you click "Save", those changes will not be published. The status of the FanPost remains "Published" because it's still visible to everyone, but your latest changes won't be visible until you click the "Publish" button again. This seems obvious, but I hear it stumped a certain Argentine poster for days...


- The Spurs are losing. Should I panic?

Yes.


That's it, guys. I'll add new ones as I think of them, or you write them in the comments section. Be as serious as you want to - it's all useful, to some degree. Or at least that's what I'm telling myself.

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Wow...

You have way too much time on your hands brotha… but thanks for posting this.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Apr 6, 2009 6:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah. It was such a lucky post that two hours later Manu’s injury was declared. I feel blessed.

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by LatinD on Apr 6, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was initially thinking of contributing my second fanpost after the season ends, but looks like I have to come up with something sooner because Manu’s injury just effectively ended this season. But other than that, excellent work LatinD. I didn’t know you were teacher material :p

"He is Manu Ginobili." - Gregg Popovich
http://roleplaya.blogspot.com

by silverandblack_davis on Apr 6, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m a teacher, actually… so… thanks? :)

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by LatinD on Apr 6, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

No shit? What do you teach? The English language? P.E.?

"He is Manu Ginobili." - Gregg Popovich
http://roleplaya.blogspot.com

by silverandblack_davis on Apr 6, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hydropower at my college.

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by LatinD on Apr 6, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

That explains the tons of free time that you have :)

"He is Manu Ginobili." - Gregg Popovich
http://roleplaya.blogspot.com

by silverandblack_davis on Apr 6, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The lack of GF probably explains it better. :)

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by LatinD on Apr 7, 2009 3:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dave, I had virtually NO idea that you taught! Very, very cool. How long you been doing that?

You’re better off trying to intimidate the sea.
- LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 7, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Couple of years. Since I finished college. It’s only 8 hours a week, and it’s a good experience. I’ve also been taking some courses on didactics, and it’s interesting.

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by LatinD on Apr 7, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

fill in the blank

Didactics plus dunking cheerleaders plus impressionable young minds equals _________________

You’re better off trying to intimidate the sea.
- LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 8, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Young girls learning how to dunk?

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by LatinD on Apr 8, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Five kids?

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 8, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

hilarious

You’re better off trying to intimidate the sea.
- LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 10, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know you had it coming.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 10, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

btw, those three factors may indeed equal 5 kids

but that’s not exaclty the formula we used to get ours — in fact, I’m reasonably certain the first two weren’t in the mix at all

You’re better off trying to intimidate the sea.
- LatinD

by J.R. Wilco on Apr 12, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

a great Jerry Springer episode

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Apr 8, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we use Tags to hilarious effect? For example, if I write a FanPost that’s titled: A Statistical Analysis of the 2008-2009 Season. Then I tag it like this: Shoes, Alec Baldwin, Farm Subsidies, explosive diarrhea.

My tapeworm tells me what to do.

by Hipuks on Apr 6, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Of course. Stampler does it all the time.

You forgot about “spontaneous combustion”.

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by LatinD on Apr 6, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

You forgot “hipuks’ awesome foreign language translations”

And Pop said "Let there be Mace"; and there was Mace. And Pop saw what he had done, that it was good. But it was not a point guard, and Pop was blind to this.

by Tim C. on Apr 6, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is awesome Dah-Veed. Thanks.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 7, 2009 12:45 AM CDT reply actions  

No prob, ATS. Timing sucked, though.

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by LatinD on Apr 7, 2009 3:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

AusTechSpur told me that he’s thinking of inviting more people to write for the front page. That’s a great idea, and already adopted by many of the SB Nation blogs.

Just a question though, so it’s up to the mods like LatinD and ATS to determine which fanpost gets to the front page? Or do we PtR underlings have lobbying power to do so, aside from the traditional post-reccing? Because frankly, not too many people rec in these parts… I have yet to see a post with double-digit recs.

We also have yet to reach that mature stage when recs are able to reflect how awesome a fanpost is, because right now I think it doesn’t serve that purpose.. well at least not just yet. You can make a case that an active fanpost (i.e. a lot of comments being posted) is reflective of a good post, but then again there are also fanposts (or fanshots… i’m sick of using the other word) that are not as comment-heavy but just a great overall read that makes you put off commenting and just say a very satisfied “Ahh.” after reading. Am I making any sense?

"He is Manu Ginobili." - Gregg Popovich
http://roleplaya.blogspot.com

by silverandblack_davis on Apr 7, 2009 4:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes, I know what you mean. Honestly, right now it’s up to ATS – I’ve never moved a FanPost to the front page. What I’d do if I thought a post (not written by me) was worth putting in the front page would be to lobby it to ATS. That’s what you and other people could do, too.

Hopefully if the community grows bigger the recs system will take care of it on its own. We’ll see. Can you think of any other solutions?

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by LatinD on Apr 7, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Good stuff to know. Thanks LD!

by Big50 on Apr 7, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

LatinD, being that you are Argentine it always impresses me how well you write using American slang like “innit” and such. Great post as always.

by speedostuffer on Apr 10, 2009 1:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, you guys totally ruined my pretty British English. Ah well.

Thanks, speedo.

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by LatinD on Apr 13, 2009 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know how do reccing comments work? Ive seen that some sb blogs highlight recced comments? Do we use the same functionality here?

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on Apr 13, 2009 8:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes, we do. If a comment gets recced 3 times, it used to be 7, the comment will be higlighted,

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 13, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just click on “actions”, then “rec”. Right next to the timestamp.

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by LatinD on Apr 13, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

sweet..

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG

by LasEspuelas on Apr 13, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

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