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J.A. Adande is an idiot

In his ESPN chat today, somebody asked him about Ricky Rubio and he said that he wants to see him play in the NBA before judging him because of some of the struggles of other foreign players in the past and he pointed out that Manu comes off the bench.  That led to this exchange:

Umm, J.A. Ginobili has been an all-star and a key piece of several championships. What are you talking about?

SportsNation J.A. Adande: (3:45 PM ET ) Not saying he hasn't been great. But he's the best player on the court in Int'l comp. Argentina's whole team is built around him. you'd think that would make him a starter on every team in the NBA. He's a sixth man on the Spurs. Shows you the difference in the games.

So, Adande thinks that Manu comes off the bench because Mason and Finley are better?

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Yep, he’s an idiot. Just goes to show that you don’t actually have to pay attention to what goes on in the league, you just have to suck up to Kobe and Stern.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Feb 6, 2009 3:07 PM CST reply actions  

Or, in Abbott’s case, Garnett and Stern.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Feb 6, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait……Abbott, as in, “I made ATS famous Abbott??”

How quickly you turn.

by SgtinManusArmy on Feb 6, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

This is a great opportunity to point out once more that Abbott secretly hates the Spurs.

Proof. (I’ll keep linking to that for a long time.)

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by LatinD on Feb 6, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

he didn’t write “Nobody wants to watch the damn Spurs” though. He just published an e-mail of somebody else who wrote that.

"Like feel or follow or fuck" she said...

by Aaronstampler on Feb 6, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

That he chose from thousands he gets. The opinion is garbage, and he posted it. That’s enough for me.

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by LatinD on Feb 6, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

hey....

Henry is a freaking good man. He is very impartial..

FFS the man put so much run into that Ethical Defence of Bruce Bowen thing. He Gives TImmeh lots of print time as well.

He posted that email because it was a good talking point and an interesting side story. Very much like everything that gets posted.

" Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. "

by Bushka on Feb 6, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Having someone shout (okay, type in all caps) that, and I quote:

NO ONE GOES TO AN NBA GAME TO SEE THE DAMN SAN ANTONIO SPURS.

is not a good talking point, and definitely not an interesting story. But maybe it’s just me.

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by LatinD on Feb 7, 2009 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Controversial opinions are way more interesting than cosy warm huggy opinions

I do think the mainstream media ignores the spurs, Henry reports around the league pretty consistently. However he reports on sites around the league, and snipits from the mainstream that have basketball connotations etc.

Hence if the mainstream promotes that constantly travelling, throwing up massive amounts of bad jumpshots when i could take my man to the hole and score at will, clownshoes lebron “I talk about myself in the 3rd person” james, more of that will find it’s way onto the pages of Truehoop.

IF Henry actually reported more spurs than lakers etc it would be a reflection of byass. Not the other way round.

P.S I do think that he reports too much blazers.

" Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. "

by Bushka on Feb 9, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

How about that spelling error....

Byass…instead of bias

thats actually fantastic…a bad opinion with a heavy favouring of homerism. An opinion of Ass.

“The lakers colour guys showed a lot of Byass…”

i am a freaking genius.

" Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. "

by Bushka on Feb 9, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I’m using this from now on. Kudos.

by SgtinManusArmy on Feb 9, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Genius… :)

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by LatinD on Feb 9, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

alternative definition

it can also be a term to describe what happens when the media’s bias shows that they’re ignoring how insufferable Bynum has become

Byass

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by J.R. Wilco on Feb 9, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I kind of agree, but not really. I’m all for controversial opinions, but you can be controversial and still make some worthwhile analysis. If he’s going to post any tripe he’s sent, then soon he’ll just quote stuff like “You know what? Kobe sucks.”

Oh, wait, that’s basically what he did.

My point is, insults may cause controversy, but I’ll reserve the right to call whoever posts them a hater.

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by LatinD on Feb 9, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I gave this a Rec based on the title.

This guy knows dick about basketball, let alone Spurs basketball.

"....It is more about them than it is about the team. Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can’t do it. I want winners!" - Mike Singletary

by DennardC on Feb 6, 2009 3:10 PM CST reply actions  

I don’t like how Adande’s article are only about the Lakers and LeBron. That is all he writes about. NBA columnist my ass.

by r21x on Feb 6, 2009 3:28 PM CST reply actions  

Suddenly I feel like I could write for ESPN.

Would I be required to watch a few episodes of “The Bachelor” to take some points off my IQ before being hired — or would they just let me just sniff some glue after I got my offer?

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by J.R. Wilco on Feb 6, 2009 3:40 PM CST reply actions  

I know somebody who might let you borrow his glue, but he’s at the gym now.

by SgtinManusArmy on Feb 6, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I came in here all prepared to defend J.A. Adande. Then I read what he wrote. Yep, that was pretty idiotic.

by sungo on Feb 6, 2009 5:29 PM CST reply actions  

The NBA tried hard to promote Manu as an NBA star during the ’05 playoffs and the effort was met with a huge backlash. Everyone thinks of him just as a flopper, if they think anything of him at all. Tony gets the pub now because of his wife, and everyone seems happier with this.

Scoop and Hollinger are the only ESPN folks that are Manu fans.

"Like feel or follow or fuck" she said...

by Aaronstampler on Feb 6, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

He’s The Sickness.

by sungo on Feb 6, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m definitely missing something. I read his whole chat twice, and I can’t find the comment that inspired the Manu tangent. Nothing about Rubio anywhere. Is my version different than everyone else’s?

"Like feel or follow or fuck" she said...

by Aaronstampler on Feb 6, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

your version is definitely in a different font

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by J.R. Wilco on Feb 6, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I tried to copy the original question

but when I went back it had disappeared and only the Q&A posted above was still there. The original one made you kinda think, “What does he mean?” The 2nd one is when he stupidly confirmed his original stupidity. If he was just straight bashing Manu I would just dismiss it, but he actually defended his statement that Manu doesn’t start, therefore Manu is not good enough to start. It makes me think that he is ignorant rather than biased.

by tandyman on Feb 6, 2009 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Well did anyone expect quality insight from him?

by Zocalo on Feb 6, 2009 6:15 PM CST reply actions  

Enough people around for a Friday night game thread? The GF abandoned me for her friends.

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by LatinD on Feb 6, 2009 6:31 PM CST reply actions  

Not too many exciting games, truth be told.

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by LatinD on Feb 6, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW, Stampler, I did some research today and that Kunis girl has a huge head.

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by LatinD on Feb 6, 2009 6:41 PM CST reply actions  

Christina Hendricks, on the other hand, is made of lava and sexiness.

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by LatinD on Feb 6, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe it seems that way because she has a tiny body. I think she’s very hot. But I always thought Jennifer Love Hewitt was too.

"Like feel or follow or fuck" she said...

by Aaronstampler on Feb 6, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

and Winona Ryder. I luv me some Winona Ryder.

"Like feel or follow or fuck" she said...

by Aaronstampler on Feb 6, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

you lost me there, give me some megan fox

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Feb 6, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Hear hear, bro. Stampler thinks she’s too skinny… meh.

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by LatinD on Feb 6, 2009 7:32 PM CST up reply actions  

skinny? WTF?

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Feb 7, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree with you on both counts.

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by Hipuks on Feb 6, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Man I just drool with her name

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Feb 6, 2009 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

The whole ESPN crew is…. boring and obvious. Hollinger gets my respect, even if sometimes he trusts too much in his numbers. Adande is the biggest prick. I dont even bother reading his articles. 90% of them are about Kobe and the lakers. He is suposed to be an objective journalist, but he is 10 times more amateur than any average blogger out there, his fanatism with the lakers is incredible.
BTW, argentina is not constructed around Manu Ginobili. Maybe in the last olympics he had the rock in his hands a lot, but before that our biggest strength (and the reason we beat Usa twice) is that 5 capable offensive players shared the ball and made quick passes. Manu only broke down defenses on the ocasional play when time was winding down. Seriously, Adande doesnt know shit about basketball. Fuck him.

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Feb 6, 2009 7:16 PM CST reply actions  

New York is beating the Celts. Losing to the Lakers really ruins their balance, eh? Let’s take advantage of that.

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by LatinD on Feb 6, 2009 7:33 PM CST reply actions  

Durant has 16 with 6:37 left in the first half.

I love that kid.

by Lauri on Feb 6, 2009 7:52 PM CST reply actions  

Hey, a just put up a Friday night haters fanpost.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Feb 6, 2009 8:27 PM CST reply actions  

If that comment from J.A. Adande was in the right context, he surely CAN"T be that stupid, can he?

Ever since the Manu move to the bench in the 05 playoffs?, there has been so much discussion by so many media outlets about this strategic move,
how it boosts the bench and gives the shooters (Finley, Mason) time to get going etc
and how other teams may do the same thing (eg Terry in Dallas(I HATE HIM!!!!))

Maybe he IS that stupid.

by werdnawee on Feb 8, 2009 9:32 PM CST reply actions  

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