Game Preview #5: San Antonio Spurs @ Portland Blazers
Don't let the beauty fool you. This is going to get ugly.
Tonight, our Spurs take on my second favorite team, the Trailblazers. So from my perspective, one of my teams will win and the other will lose. I can't lose. Or should that say "I can't win"? Oh forget it, let's talk about what to expect.
The Spurs got their asses kicked last night. They didn't play an ounce of defense, which has become quite the disturbing trend. I'd try to come up with words to describe how I felt watching that debacle on TV, away from PtR, but maybe a link would be better. The 14-point spread doesn't do justice to just how badly the Spurs sucked. Tonight, they should be sufficiently pissed off to make a game of it. I'm also hoping to see some different people on the inactive list, since Finley and Bonner are not going to be useful against this team.
The Blazers have a losing record at home so far this season. Good news for us, right? Wrong. Remember how fired up Utah was last night? Apply that same energy and desire to a better team with no significant weaknesses, and you'll have an idea what the Spurs are up against. The Blazers lost at home to a team they should have beaten on Tuesday night, and haven't played since. The bad taste from that loss has had time to stew, and they'll be ready to play tonight.
San Antonio Spurs @ Portland Trailblazers Where: The Rose Garden - Portland, OR When: November 6, 2009, 9:30 PM Spurs time Watch: ESPN(National); My35(San Antonio); KGW(Portland)
How They Stack Up
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Matchups
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Tony Parker Rank Poetry |
Point Guard I don't like this, not one bit. There's one guy in this league who always seems to give Tony problems, and he now plays for the Blazers. Yes, Miller has often been like Tony's own version of kryptonite. That being said, Miller hasn't quite lived up to expectations in Portland so far, and I think Tony has learned how to beat him. Cubits vs. Blake should also be to our advantage.Advantage: Spurs |
Andre Miller More Savvy Than the JV |
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Manu Ginobili The |
Shooting Guard This might be a controversial pick, but let's talk about these guys in terms of their importance. Manu is the second most important player on the Spurs' roster, averaging 24 mpg. Roy is averaging 38 mpg, is the unquestioned leader of his team, and actually has better per-minute averages than Manu. But make no mistake: It's very close, and I'll take Manu in the clutch over anyone. Also, Rudy Fernandez kicks slightly more ass than Roger Mason. Advantage: Blazers |
Brandon Roy Manu 1.1 |
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Richard Jefferson Princess Peanut |
Small Forward The Blazers don't have a major weakness at any postion, but SF is probably the closest they get to a weakness, especially with Nic Batum out. Martell is a very good defender, and RJ is going to have to work hard against him if he wants to be effective on the offensive end. On the defensive end, RJ and Michael Finley have their work cut out for them: Webster's very effective, and his backup is Travis Outlaw, who is an extremely efficient scorer with great length and quickness. In fact, Outlaw would make a great Spur in 2010-11. (hint hint) Advantage: Tied |
Martell Webster Not Just Filler |
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Tim Duncan Where's My Ice Thrown? |
Power Forward The Power Forwards in the West just keep on coming, don't they? We all know Timmy is the best PF ever, but LaMarcus ain't exactly chopped liver. Great scorer, good rebounder, good passer. There are no weak points in his offensive game. Aldridge is still a bit raw defensively, but when you have two intimidating defensive mountains tag-teaming behind you, it doesn't matter too much. Timmeh will adjust, and we'll probably see him going glass a lot tonight. Advantage: Spurs |
LaMarcus Aldridge Duncan 0.3 |
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Antonio McDyess Swine Flu No More |
Center With apologies to Dice, this is one of the easiest matchups on the floor to pick. Oden and Przy are great shot blockers and rebounders, and they can be intimidating to anyone that tries to get in the lane. Oden seems to have rediscovered his quickness during the offseason, making him an absolute monster defending the paint. The guy plays good for his age. Also, Matt Bonner is going to get eaten alive on defense, so I expect more minutes for Antonio and Theo today. Maybe even a Yawn sighting. Advantage: Blazers |
Greg Oden Oldest NBA Player? |
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George Hill Twitter Noob |
Bench & Role Players George is the X-factor tonight. For us to win, he needs to play his usual lockdown D, and knock it down anytime he gets an open look at a 3. In fact, I'd like to see some lineups with Cubits playing alongside Tony. Portland's "second unit" of Blake, Fernandez, Outlaw, Juwan Howard and Przybilla is pretty damn solid. Forget Orlando - this is the deepest bench in the league, other than ours. Dejuan Blair, Bonner, Finley, and Roger will all need to be solid contributors tonight to seal a win. Advantage: Spurs |
Joel Przybilla Not Foreign |
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Gregg Popovich Oregon Winer |
Coach This isn't a slight against Nate. He's a good coach, but he's still pretty unproven at this point. Pop, on the other hand... Advantage: Spurs |
Nate McMillan Class Act |
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Other Factors
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Intangibles |
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Mojo |
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Winner: Blazers |
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| There's no reason to believe what you're about to read, it's just a gut feeling. Originally , I was going to predict a win for the Blazers, based solely on desire. But after last night's beatdown, I get the distinct feeling that the Spurs want this one just as badly. Spurs win a nailbiter, after rediscovering their defense. Prediction: 94-92, Spurs |
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Keys To The Game
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Last Time They MetThe Spurs and Blazers last met in San Antonio on April 8th, with the Spurs losing 95-83. That looks bad, but Manu was hurt and Timmy's knees were in bad condition. That one was also a SEGABABA. No highlights, since I don't particularly want to relive that game. |
Some Other ReadingBlazersBlazersedge - This is one of the busiest blogs on SBNation... in fact, they make our traffic look weak. There's lots of smart, insightful people over there, but the traffic and participation can make it a challenge to keep up. Expect a few visitors from there during the game. Bust a Bucket - Here's the Blazers' Bloguin site, a sibling of ProjectSpurs(see below). Very slick-looking blog, and they have a sense of humor. As somewhat of a Blazer fan myself, it's highly recommended reading. Spurs48 Minutes of Hell: Tim and Graydon still do their thing like nobody else on the TrueHoop Network. We're lucky to have them. The (sort of) Daily Twitter
That's right, Cubits is tweeting now. And of course, Lauri and Wayne couldn't resist talking to him.
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The Magic That Happened
Some Other ViewingNo highlights from last night's game, since masochism isn't really my thing.
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Where to Tune InTVThis game will be televised nationally on ESPN for those of us in the US. Everyone else, check your local listings. OnlineAs always, NBA league pass is recommended for those who are willing to pony up the cash. Almost every Spurs game will be broadcast there, which is especially helpful for those of us who aren't in the San Antonio area. This one should also be on ESPN 360, if your ISP provides access to it. Please don't post links to illegal game feeds in the game thread. Links to illegal feeds are not permitted on SBNation, but you can probably find them out there on the internets if you're resourceful and desperate. In fact, nobody can stop you from googling "atdhe". You can also shoot an email to rikiddoko@gmail.com for more assistance. Spurs League Pass audio is still free this year, so check it out. RadioIf you're in the San Antonio area and aren't near a TV, tune in to WOAI (1200 AM). |
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Comments
Holy crap Brandon Roy has a thick neck. Also, great work dude.
If you haven't lived with a squirrel, you haven't lived. - Bob Ross
by Hipuks on Nov 6, 2009 5:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
i’m looking forward to this game like a trip to the dentist. at least tonite, i have that mindset going in….which is better than getting tricked last night.
by bones on Nov 6, 2009 8:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’m with you on this. Not expecting a win like last night, but hoping for a pleasant surprise from the Spurs.
by xman130 on Nov 6, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
by bellasa on Nov 6, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good job on the preview, Tim. I don’t know if it’s me, or I’m imagining things, but Mason looks a bit quicker. I’ve seen him get all the way to the rim on a couple of occasions and he’s sticking to his man much better than he did last year. Why is he not starting??
by xman130 on Nov 6, 2009 9:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I have to point out that I had the nerve to reach out to Cubits only because he asked for anyone who had a picture of themselves in a George Hill jersey to send it to him in exchange for tickets. I’m no stalker.
(yet)
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by Lauri on Nov 6, 2009 9:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hope you’re right Tim. I hope you’re right.
My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri
by CapHill on Nov 6, 2009 9:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure the Blazers game will be tough. But I enjoyed this small Blazer related paragraph from a J A Adande piece a couple of days ago:
Their No. 1 overall pick from the 2007 draft has 19 personal fouls and 16 field goal attempts. Their offseason free-agent acquisition is shooting 34 percent. They are 2-3, with two home losses.
And yes I am a 2009 World Champion Fan.
by olf on Nov 6, 2009 9:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice Preview!
Very nice Tim! I also got the simulation up too if anyone wants to check it out.
Go Spurs Go!!!!!!!
by mikesatx on Nov 6, 2009 10:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Only 8 comments?
I’m surprised Blazer’s Edge hasn’t invaded already
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Nov 6, 2009 10:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
i invaded them :) ….well not trash talking just discussing how bad we’ve been playing lol
"There are two things in life that should never go together.....those two things are cheese and herpes..." - Santa Claus
by Cello the great on Nov 6, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
when the nuggets played them they decided that they'd just "rec up" every post on our GDT
looks like it was bad luck for them. For tonight only, I’m a Spurs fan, beat them Balzers Blazers
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Nov 6, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To turn it all green, I mean
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Nov 6, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not very sportsmanlike.
Consider the gun jumped
5 in 10
by jollyrogerwilco on Nov 6, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It just looked like a sea of crow being eaten after we won, though.
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Nov 6, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
a sea of crow
I love this phrase.
Also, nice avatar. And it looks like the guy being rejected is shooting out of bounds!
Consider the gun jumped
5 in 10
by jollyrogerwilco on Nov 6, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the name, too. BeefySwats. Mmmm. It’s what’s for dinner.
“Man, I could really go for some Beefy Swats right about now!”
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by Lauri on Nov 6, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It does sound like a good meal
Man, Lauri, you and I have been liking the same things lately. It started with Hyperizin’, continued with Hermie’s rap, and now this.
What’s going on?
Consider the gun jumped
5 in 10
by jollyrogerwilco on Nov 6, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I like pretty much everything*, so it’s not hard to match up with other tastes now and then.
*See Parker, Tony; Laker fans as dating material; and PETA bats
Try the new PtR--now entirely BAT-FREE!
by Lauri on Nov 6, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I started the rec parade
and obviously wish I hadn’t considering hindsight and all…. what BeefySwats isn’t saying is that one of the the Nugget faithful came on Blazers Edge and stirred the pot by creating a fanpost about the Nuggets beating down the PTB. At the time turnabout felt like fair play.
Nevertheless, I’m looking forward to a good game tonight. What concerns me is what appears to be the lack of defensive effort both teams seem to have been putting out. This is really uncharacteristic for either team. I’d guess Pops and Sarge are going to really emphasize D tonight.
Oh yea, nice write up. I caught that little blurb about envisioning Travis Outlaw in a Spurs uniform, but as a Lieutenant in the #25 Fan club, I can assure you the team is committed to keeping Outlaw in rose red gear.
Once again, best of luck and beat LA when you play them.
I wish people would stop saying "don't worry about it" as if I'm losing sleep over it
by bow4meow on Nov 6, 2009 6:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
First, don’t worry about it. It’s nothing to lose sleep over.
Second, it usually the 2nd offense that the ref sees when two guys start fighting. The first guy throws a little shove, then the second retaliates and gets a flag for unsportsmanlike conduct.
You’re the one I saw, so I guess you get the penalty.
Consider the gun jumped
5 in 10
by jollyrogerwilco on Nov 7, 2009 12:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just so you know...
we Blazer fans like the Spurs fans SOOOOOOO much more than the Nuggets fans. Last game I went to the nuggets played the blazers and I had to listen to a few nugget fans behind me go on and on about Carmelo Anthony is a God and how crappy the Blazers are.
by jenstcy on Nov 6, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Try living in Denver and then get back to me about Nuggets fans.
::shakes head::
My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri
by CapHill on Nov 6, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
feeling optimistic....
Spurs by 9. It’s close at half, but we dominate the third. Hill cruises us in the 4th to a 9 point win.
by BlaseE on Nov 6, 2009 10:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’m a Spurs fan and all but Roy over Manu? Manu looks like a shell of his former self and not even close to game speed. Roy should be all over that matchup.
by JustinBK on Nov 6, 2009 10:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
RJ is considerably better than Webster in my opinion…at least on offense
and those stats are from RJ’s lackluster start to the season in all but 1 game
by BlaseE on Nov 6, 2009 10:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, but I considered defense too, and RJ just doesn’t get it yet. He’s coming along pretty well, but Webster is excellent on the defensive end.
9.20.21.24.34
ACLs are like crutches. They’re only for the weaklings who can’t get along without them. -jollyrogerwilco
by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When you say “he doesn’t get it” you mean he hasn’t grasped our system and his place in it, right?
Consider the gun jumped
5 in 10
by jollyrogerwilco on Nov 6, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly.
9.20.21.24.34
ACLs are like crutches. They’re only for the weaklings who can’t get along without them. -jollyrogerwilco
by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Completely agreed Tim. I was going to commend you for not being biased on the match up here but then I remembered you are a Portland fan as well.
Just call me The Profit
by Manuwar on Nov 6, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s right, Manuwar, so keep your commendations to yourself, you hear?
Consider the gun jumped
5 in 10
by jollyrogerwilco on Nov 6, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sick and feeling sorry for myself today. I can commend anything and anyone.
By the way, does the JRW household got any super secret remedies for cough, fever, head ache, ear ache..
Just call me The Profit
by Manuwar on Nov 6, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. I only have super secret programs for not getting sick.
Consider the gun jumped
5 in 10
by jollyrogerwilco on Nov 6, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone notice we play worse with rest?
I’m actually thinking that last night was like the warmup and with everyone now loose and limber, we’ll see a better performance tonight. That does not, of course, account for how cornered the Blazers likely feel. And you know they’re confident after winning the season series last year.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 6, 2009 11:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Unless it is a back-to-back game and then we don’t do well either – so the Spurs are like Goldilocks, not too hot, not too cold, need it just right
"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Artis Gilmore on Nov 6, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the Spurs are like Goldilocks
This is going into the quotes section right now.
Consider the gun jumped
5 in 10
by jollyrogerwilco on Nov 6, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha!
"Mr. Gilmore deserves to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame damnit. Highest field goal percentage EVER"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gilmoar01.html
by Artis Gilmore on Nov 6, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
FYI… Our home and away records are wrong… should be 2-0 and 0-2 I believe.
"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert"
- DBG
by LasEspuelas on Nov 6, 2009 11:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
You’re right. Fixed.
9.20.21.24.34
ACLs are like crutches. They’re only for the weaklings who can’t get along without them. -jollyrogerwilco
by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Funnel Cake!
That is all.
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by Lauri on Nov 6, 2009 11:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Slick write up
Couple of things. I think you give the Blazers more credit than they deserve. They’ve looked BEYOND ugly out there. If they suddenly click, you can’t beat them, but I strongly suspect that clickage is 20 more games off (and it better happen).
Roy has been looking ugly as well. He’s put up points in games but his “flow” isn’t there and the team looks disjointed going through him. Keep him moderately disrupted and you should be fine. Allow him and the blazer team to suddenly find themselves from last year, and you’ll have done the Blazers a huge favor. The spurs tend to be great on defense, so I really don’t think this will be an issue.
Aldridge is more of a beast than I think you give him credit for, but he’s also off to his usual slow start. For whatever reason he doesn’t seem to explode until after the all star break. I’m hoping he finds that sooner. Still, my memory is that he does an excellent job against Timmy, but my memory is flawed and I’m at work so not looking it up.
With Greg in the line up, the blazers look decent, without… things seemed to fall apart. he makes up for the sloppy defense of others, and there’s plenty of that from the blazers. He had no foul issues during preseason, but the regular refs still seem to enjoy the whistle. He’s not making the same dumb fouls that leave blazer fans screaming at their screens, but he’s still making a few too many. If he’s not in foul trouble… a strong probability the Spurs lose.
Blake will likely start. MIller comes off the bench. If you’re in shock, so are many other blazer fans. A loss tonight may change that, or Nate may change his mind tonight on a whim. If he flip flops, expect the blazers to be at a loss and a win for the spurs. His flip flops have yet to be good ideas, and doing it right before tip off has always been painful.
Webster is still raw. he was out a year and this is a new team to him. He’s athletic, and hustles but he’s also out of position a lot. for whatever reason he doesn’t know or feel the plays.
Overall… I predict a spurs win. The blazers have the potential to come in and blow the spurs away by twenty points. I’ve seen about 5 second glances of that team and I don’t think that’s happening. The blazers have also not looked so great in the close games.
Anything can happen, but I think the odds favor the spurs.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez
by ratbastird on Nov 6, 2009 12:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
On the lineups I used above: Miller has been getting more minutes than Blake, but I know he doesn’t start. I tried to go with who gets the most minutes. The same goes for the Spurs: we start Finley and Bonner, but Manu and Dice should usually get more minutes than those two.
Thanks for your perspective. :)
9.20.21.24.34
ACLs are like crutches. They’re only for the weaklings who can’t get along without them. -jollyrogerwilco
by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
rat, thanks a ton for the info. This is great to have. It really helps to have an idea of what the other team is going through as well as what they’re capable of — since the two are often very different things.
Consider the gun jumped
5 in 10
by jollyrogerwilco on Nov 6, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m very interested to see which team shows up tonight.
Is it going to be the that hasn’t played any defense?
Or maybe the team that doesn’t play defense because they are shooting lights out?
I want to say the Spurs are going to come out firing tonight to make for last night, but I also know that Pop isn’t really worried about winning it all right now. We have to wait for the rodeo to come to town before that happens.
That being said, I can’t wait to watch the game!
by FANobili on Nov 6, 2009 12:24 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
no they can’t afford to wait until mid season to start amping it up. They have to get into gear asap! This many new faces on board means more people are not in sync with the spurs system yet. If they want to contend they have to start playing better as a whole…and above all WAYYY BETTER DEFENSE!
"There are two things in life that should never go together.....those two things are cheese and herpes..." - Santa Claus
by Cello the great on Nov 6, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No Hollinger fan really but interesting (I thought) blurb from his chat today:
Rip Wiley (UK)
Hi John. Which team (if any) do you feel will feel more pressure to get the W tonight – Portland or San Antonio?
John Hollinger (12:33 PM)
Easy — Blazers. First, they’re at home and second, their fans are already freaking out. Spurs fans don’t even look at the standings until Feb. 15.
And yes I am a 2009 World Champion Fan.
by olf on Nov 6, 2009 12:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I found this blurb interesting:
Don’t worry about the Spurs. They’re old and washed up! Duncan can get liposuction and Ginobili can get hair plugs but it don’t make them any younger.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 6, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yo ATS, check your mail.
If you haven't lived with a squirrel, you haven't lived. - Bob Ross
by Hipuks on Nov 6, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you talking about the one from last night?
I saw it. I haven’t had time to respond.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 6, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No problem, just checking if you saw it.
If you haven't lived with a squirrel, you haven't lived. - Bob Ross
by Hipuks on Nov 6, 2009 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I see EVERYTHING. Except this very important work email I ignored for a week until it was pointed out to me today. Very embarrassing.
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 6, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember that PTR doesn’t pay shit.
If you haven't lived with a squirrel, you haven't lived. - Bob Ross
by Hipuks on Nov 6, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am glad you were able to recognize the humor intended in the bombastic, over-the-top nature of it. And even if you weren’t you are not the type to hold a grudge.
And yes I am a 2009 World Champion Fan.
by olf on Nov 6, 2009 6:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 6, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Spurs fans don’t even look at the standings until Feb. 15.
Love it.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney
by bellasa on Nov 6, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting to get the other perspective
As a blazer fan I hope they can play out of their slump. Its always interesting when the Spurs come to town, since that’s they’re the example that small market teams like Portland are trying to emulate.
Question I have for Spurs fan’s is how is Tony playing? If the answer is well, then I’m very concerned about this game because neither of our pg’s play much D. If we can contain him, that would be huge.
The post people who give the Blazer bigs problems have tended to be under sized and athletic, which doesn’t seem to be much of an issue with SA. Both Oden and Pryz have fouled at a high rate against those teams.
I’ll also be interested to see how much energy the Spurs can bring to the second night of a back to back. Particularly after playing in the meat grinder that is Utah (pick, pick, pick, etc.)
Should be a fun game
by JMoon on Nov 6, 2009 12:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He has been playing well, with his usual speed and drives to the basket – if you discount last night. I’m interested to see how Blair and Oden/Pryz compete. Blair is a great garbage man and seems to play better in a crowd.
If the Spurs don’t start with any energy, I think we (Spurs fans) are in for a looooooong night.
My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri
by CapHill on Nov 6, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does Blair play with Tim D much?
Also does he face up and slash to the basket, or just gather boards and put back? The Blazers may be better off matching Oden or Pryz with Blair rather than our resident softie Aldridge. Talented offensively as he is, I hate to think of LMA trying to keep Blair off the boards.
Also, will SA double Brandon on the wing? He’s had a tough time figuring out who to rotate the ball to in that situation
by JMoon on Nov 6, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right now, as a rookie, Blair is a little more than a boards and putbacks guy. But he’s also a take-your-arm-off guy too.
See for yourself at dejuanblairfacts
Consider the gun jumped
5 in 10
by jollyrogerwilco on Nov 6, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like this one
There is no ACL in Dejun Bir’s phbet. –"Chieflion/in2deep"
by JMoon on Nov 6, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s my fave.
Consider the gun jumped
5 in 10
by jollyrogerwilco on Nov 6, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we lose tonight I’m gonna overreact.
Just call me The Profit
by Manuwar on Nov 6, 2009 1:09 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Har.
And rec’ed.
Try the new PtR--now entirely BAT-FREE!
by Lauri on Nov 6, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1!
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by Cello the great on Nov 6, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well Manuwar, things arent looking good for you to under-react.
The blazers are coming off of a loss, have had 3 days of rest, are at home and this is a segababa. ( Oh yea, and we are also the Spurs)
...Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is forty five.
by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great preview, thanks for posting. I disagree with Roy vs. Manu, but you must be torn by wearing two hats.
Tonight, I just want to see someone virtually punched in the mouth. Supporting bigs have to get physical on D.
I really respect Bonner for what he is. But from what I’ve seen, he’s usually the opposing team’s offensive strategy the first 6 minutes of the game. Whoever he is guarding gets carte blanch. I really noticed that in Austin, pre-game.
I know normally that this is fine because he basically plays a hybrid garbage minute package, but when his lack of D gets the opponents rolling offensively, it gets slippery fast.
And this is coming from a big Bonner fan. I hope the best for the guy, but he’s not cutting it on defense.
Hoping for a win tonight.
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by Cedarpark on Nov 6, 2009 1:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So far, whenever we’ve been featured on TNT, we’ve lost badly. Whenever we’re on a SEGABABA, we’ve also lost badly. However, whenever we’re on ESPN, we won considerably. We’ve also won considerably when Mike has done the game simulations. So I don’t know what to think about our chances, actual basketball relevance aside of course.
Good preview Tim, here’s to hoping your team wins.
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by the little o on Nov 6, 2009 2:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I remember a game last year...
that was on ESPN when the Spurs were at home playing the Blazers and it didn’t turn out so well for the Spurs. That being said, this game is televised locally on KGW-NBC in Portland and the Blazers have a KGW curse, so I don’t know what to think about the Blazer’s chances either. ….I just can’t see them dropping 3 in a row at home…..
by jenstcy on Nov 6, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny
Spurs Off Eff: 110.2, good for 4th in the League
Trailblazers Off Eff: 102.5, a giant fallof to mediocrity for 16th
Spurs Def Eff: 106.3, 20th, good way to ruining Pop’s health
Trailblazers Def Eff: 101.9, 12th, a step in the right direction, but hey, Oden can only play so long before fouling out….
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"What do you want me to do?" Wright asked. "Do you want me to Derek Fisher him?"
"Give them some fucking credit, i mean for real." Jackson said.
"I just fell on my face for no reason," Bryant deadpanned. "I'm a klutz."
"Fucking right i'm preachin' it!" Carlisle replied.
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by DOH on Nov 6, 2009 2:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Very well done, Tim, as always. Some constructive criticism:
- Some random HTML tag is making the font size smaller beneath “Some other reading”.
- The grey background in the first part of the table provides very little contrast with the white font. Either switch back to black, or change the font color to black.
- It’s 12:30 AM in Argentina, not 11:30.
I think I’ll make it to tonight’s game… even though I have to go to the airport at 5 AM. :)
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by LatinD on Nov 6, 2009 2:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don’t know about the font size, but I fixed the first section. I meant to have black lettering all along, but I spaced out on that part.
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by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dang man, now thats taking one for the team LD…but you always seem to exist on little or no sleep….or maybe your secret is napping during the day?
by bones on Nov 6, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, out little LD is a vampire.
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by bellasa on Nov 6, 2009 6:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
*our
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by bellasa on Nov 6, 2009 6:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I nap at all times, every time I can, everywhere.
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by LatinD on Nov 6, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you set your alarm to wake up, or does it happen automatically?
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by jollyrogerwilco on Nov 7, 2009 12:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Automatically. Sometimes.
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by LatinD on Nov 8, 2009 7:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I dare you to add this at the end of the sentence about Project Spurs: Go say hi, they don’t bite…HARD!
Great preview Tim. For as many problems as the Spurs had with Boozer and Milsap last night and the fact that they forgot how to play D and rebound worries me, since the Blazers have Aldridge, Oden and Pryzbilla down low. Andre Miller is also a nuisance to Tony Parker, so I’m hoping Blake gets the majority of the minutes as long as our D closes out and doesn’t leave that guy open at the arch all night long. Word is that Nate will be shifting his lineup for the game.
BTW, Just a quick plug, but Jeff and I will be going live (audio and chat only) 2 hours prior to the game on Project Spurs if any of you guys want to go by, listen, participate in the chat or even call in and break down the game with us. We’ll be interviewing Sheed from Bust a Bucket around 8 p.m. central and we’ll come back on live after the game for a post-game show. Would be cool to see some PTR representation there.
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by Michael De Leon on Nov 6, 2009 2:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for letting us know.
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by jollyrogerwilco on Nov 6, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Always fun to listen to your podcasts, Michael. Keep it up.
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by LatinD on Nov 6, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Blazer fan here...
First time checking out your site. I like it. Everyone seems cool! And Kevin Pritchard is a product of the organization, so thank you!
Keys to the game:
1) Oden staying out of foul trouble. If he is in the game, he owns the paint. He gobbles rebounds at both ends and blocks/alters a lot of shots. Scoring is still suspect. I know Timmy is rebounding beast but Oden is bigger and faster.
2) Containing Tony Parker. Darn near impossible to keep him out of the paint but it sure will help in #1, above. TP seems to feast on the Blazers because our lack of perimeter D. Heck, we even put his countryman, Batum, on him last year!
3) Bench Play. The better bench will win. I respectfully disagree that the Spurs bench is better than the Blazers although we haven’t shown much this year except for spurts by Travis Outlaw and 1 game by Rudy Fernandez. Przybilla is a defensive beast but also plagued with foul trouble. Andre Miller has been slow going but had 11 assists last game…
which leads me to this
This makes my prediction very tough. Certainly, B-Edger’s have been asking for it lately but is for the better or the worse? Personally, I think it is better long term but we may have a tough time initially. At this point, I’d rather see it sooner than later since it can’t be any worse than the funk we’re in now!
OK, I’ll be a homer: Blazer’s 96 Spurs 91
Good Luck and let’s all hope it is at least a good game!
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by clinchmobb on Nov 6, 2009 4:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I love Aldridge as he is my favorite UT player in the NBA (Sorry, Lauri.) and I like the Blazers. With that said, my definition of a good game tonight is a 8+ point Spurs win in dominating fashion.
by BlaseE on Nov 6, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dont worry spurs fans, blazers are pathetic....
as a blazer fan i wont be surprised at all if the spurs dominate like they should.
until nate plays oden more without the ridiculous notion that he may foul out (which is quite rare for him) we are a joke down low offensively and defensively. start miller….it’s incomprehensible why he’s not. get rid of outlaw immediately—he just doesn’t get it. blake is gone, er,,,should be. new coach—his substitutions are just plain dumb not to mention the fact that our offense is derived from a 2nd grade team and as predictable as a hollywood movie.
I hope the spurs win. perhaps that would get the aforementioned the attention it deserves and, consequently, the much needed changes i mentioned.
by radioairbag on Nov 6, 2009 5:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just a hunch I got from something I saw earlier… Ian and Haislip might be active for this game.
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by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 6:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
what about Hairston? Of those three, he played the best in pre-season, why wouldn’t he play over both Haislip and Yawn? I can see one of them due to size but not both of them.
by Spurlady on Nov 6, 2009 6:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It seems like we kept Hairston under contract just to have him own the DL for the Toros and in case of injuries which is kind of disappointing.
by BlaseE on Nov 6, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
surely you must be kidding.....
tell u what—-u can have outlaw and blake for hairstain.
by radioairbag on Nov 6, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
how much does Outlaw make? we need to balance these salaries
by BlaseE on Nov 6, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think 'da law' makes 4 million,,,way under what he could if he knew what he was doing
by radioairbag on Nov 6, 2009 7:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
3.6 mill
...Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is forty five.
by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oulaw’s at about 3.6M. I’d trade Bonner for him in a heartbeat.
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by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tim. Why you gotta always try and beat a brutha to the comment?
...Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is forty five.
by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He might be active too, but the Spurs game notes have a tiny little blurb I haven’t seen before with Hairston and Mahinmi’s names.
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by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
*Haislip and Mahinmi’s names
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by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Outlaw would be a good backup small forward. Havent actually seen him play but hes got nice size and decent stats.
...Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is forty five.
by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hah, I’m glad LatinD isn’t around to see all the subject-line comments… yet.
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by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 7:10 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
GOL! maybe he’s practicing restraint
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by Manuwar on Nov 6, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m seeing them now…
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by LatinD on Nov 6, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
beyond that, blaker would be a good backup for the spurts
by radioairbag on Nov 6, 2009 7:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt give hills minutes to blake just yet
...Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is forty five.
by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
is that a joke?
blake is a starter for a team that won 54 games last year. hill is ok but not as good as blaker.
by radioairbag on Nov 6, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hill has intangibles and tangibles and his minutes now will pay way more dividends in the future
by BlaseE on Nov 6, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You beat me by like .0004 seconds. Scoundrel
...Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is forty five.
by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yours is better….i was trying to be quick
by BlaseE on Nov 6, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hill would not be starting in San Antonio. Blake and Hill are totally different players. Hill is an offensive point who is a much better defender. George has a big upside, hes much younger than Blake. This is only his second season. At this point I might take hills energy and defense off the bench rather than Blakes playmaking abilities.
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by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Blake* would not be starting in San Antonio
...Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is forty five.
by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hollinger rejoices!!
Hill had a horrible game last night.
by JaySo on Nov 6, 2009 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
duh. u got parker. but off the bench he would be consistent, run the offense, shoot the 3, minimal turnovers, etc
by radioairbag on Nov 6, 2009 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yea. And George Hill makes 1/4th of Blakes Salary. Id say hes a little bit better of a bargain than Blake
...Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is forty five.
by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont think hill is a better defender---check the stats on that one
by radioairbag on Nov 6, 2009 7:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I dont believe stats determine defensive ability, alot of the time
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by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hill will have to resign in a year---which will be more than blake. and it's not 1/4 either.
by radioairbag on Nov 6, 2009 7:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hill is under contract for next year. And the salary raise will be like 3 hundred thousand dollars
...Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is forty five.
by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My bad, its actually like only 150k more than hes making this season
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by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s about 150K LESS than he’s making this season according to The Man.
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by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 6, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol…
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by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was going by this….
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/62429/20091029/spurs_pick_up_option_on_george_hill/
But hell, thats even better. Is it possible to feel sorry for someone making exponentially more than I do?
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by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Only when he’s exponentially better than you. If not, tell him he makes too much.
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by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t feel sorry for him. I dress up like him. But I have my own issues.
On the page I linked to, click on the ‘additional contract notes’ thing and read about George’s contract.
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by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 6, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus. Wonder who it was that talked George into that contract,and can that guy negogiate my next raise for me?
...Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is forty five.
by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I read Hill and Mahinmi have the only 2 non-max offer contracts of all first rounds picks currently in the NBA….my memory sucks though….maybe it was in Sham’s guest spot on 48MoH
by BlaseE on Nov 6, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
2 of the 5 is what I recall.
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by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 6, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No one had to talk Hill into anything
By drafting him, the Spurs became Hill’s sole recruiter. So if they refused to offer anything more than that, what could he do? Go to Europe for less than that, or just like it and lump it?
He chose B, but not before taking ages to sign.
by Sham-onnnnnnnnnnna on Nov 10, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
either way, blake is far ahead of hill. it would be in your best interest to obtain outlaw and blake for, lets say...a powerforward u just drafted
by radioairbag on Nov 6, 2009 7:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hah! No way we trade Blair for anything less than Oden.
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by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 7:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oden has ACLs though.
...Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is forty five.
by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Im being sarcastic. Around here we kid that ACLs are for the weak
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by alamobro on Nov 6, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Knicks down by 19 at the moment.
Tonight’s number games—guess the following:
1. By how many points will the Knicks lose tonight?
2. What will the combined score of the Clippers/Warriors game tonight be?
3. How many combined minutes for Finley and Bonner tonight?
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by Lauri on Nov 6, 2009 7:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
1. 24
2. 212
3. More than any of us would like.
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by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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fragmentary
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we need another frenchy....especially one that can get to the rim
by radioairbag on Nov 6, 2009 7:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We have this guy named Ian… all it’ll cost you is Rudy.
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by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
get to the rim, ian lives around it and has a good 6-8 inches on Parker to put him closer to getting to the rim
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LD, ur doin it wrong
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by Lauri on Nov 6, 2009 7:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Someone check LDs temp
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Apparently, they liked it as much as you do over at BE. Check out our friend’s history.
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by Tim C. on Nov 6, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Meh.
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by LatinD on Nov 6, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
interesting PTB update
Apparently Nate McMillan is trying to hasten his being fired by starting both Miller and Blake and bringing in Bayless as first guard off the bench.
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link fail.
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