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Suicidal Thoughts and Home Losses: Jazz 90, Spurs 83

Well, the absence of Tony and Manu is just as bad for the team as we all feared.  Is it too much to ask for Tony to come back for the next game?

Oh yeah, we're 4-6.  And we've lost 3 in a row.

Star-divide

First, I give you mood music:

BOX SCORE

This game started out decently enough.  The Spurs briefly led in the first quarter, and managed to keep it close even after Paul Millsap went off.  But then, it all went to hell.  The Jazz got a double digit lead in the second quarter, and got back that double-digit lead in the third quarter.  The Spurs came all the way back to tie it by the end of the third, before it all went to hell again.  There, that's all the description you need.  Now, on to the players:

Keith Bogans:  The Boogeyman did a good job defending Deron Williams, but a certain someone made sure he was in foul trouble(anyone who exerted effort on D tonight got called for stupid fouls).  Didn't do much on offense, but he's not supposed to anyway.

Theo Ratliff:  Rat was a brief bright spot in an ugly game.  He didn't take a single shot, but got 3 blocks and made things easier on Timmy.

Michael Finley:  The pinnacle of suckitude.  He didn't turn the ball over, but he wasn't exactly helpful with his 0% shooting. Or getting blocked.  Or getting burned repeatedly on defense.

Antonio McDyess:  Dice had a solid game, but like everyone else who attempted to play defense, he was saddled with some stupid fouls.

Roger Mason:  Believe it or not, Roger didn't suck... on offense.  Roger shot 5-9 for 12 points, and only had one turnover in at least 17 minutes at the point.  But he sucked on defense, as much as Findog.

Matt Bonner:  Sucked almost as bad as Findog on both ends.  Actually, he was probably worse on defense.  I'll let Fred handle the more thorough Bonner-bashing, though.

Malik Hairston:  Played defense, so got in foul trouble.  Malik shot as well as Findog, but was definitely better on the defensive end.

Dejuan Blair:  I didn't even get to see Dejuan's minutes, because there were so few of them.  His stat line looks decent for 8 minutes of play, but he had no fouls.  That must mean he didn't play any defense.

Three Stars

George Hill:  Cubits had a good enough game, but his shots weren't falling very well(7-17) and he fouled out in the 4th quarter, thanks to a certain someone's refereeing.

Tim Duncan:  50% shooting, 21 points, 9 rebounds, 5 assists.  What else is new?

Richard Jefferson:  Also 50% shooting, with 16 points, 6 rebounds, and 3 assists.  Took too many long jumpers instead of attacking the rim.

And The Winner Is...

Joey-crawofrd_medium

Yes, Joey wins again.  Congratulations.

No, I'm not bitter at all...  when does Manu come back?

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Dude, if we lose on November 15th…. =^/

...Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is forty five.

by alamobro on Nov 19, 2009 11:19 PM CST reply actions  

  • December 15th

...Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is forty five.

by alamobro on Nov 19, 2009 11:20 PM CST reply actions  

It’ll still be Joey’s fault. Or Finley’s. :P

The Spurs - now playing defense again! ...but only against Dallas.

by Tim C. on Nov 19, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Heres to hoping they begin to figure things out by then.

The only other pro game ive been to was game 2 against the Suns in 2007. The Spurs got theyre ass kicked. ( To add insult, the tickets were really expensive)

 Im not looking forward to a replay…

...Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is forty five.

by alamobro on Nov 19, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Fuck. That. Shit. They better not lose, wait, they won’t. The Spurs have yet to lose a game I have attended, lets not start now.

by xman130 on Nov 20, 2009 9:12 AM CST up reply actions  

We need another pg. The game went wrong when Hill sit in the second quarter. When RMJ is a the point the offense stops. Everybody just stands out there looking at each other waiting for some body to make a play. At one point Bonner was trying to makes plays for others, when Bonner’s doing that you know that your offense is in trouble.

by spursfan87 on Nov 19, 2009 11:34 PM CST reply actions  

Outrageous trade proposition...

BSPN has Kevin Martin rumored to be on the block, because of his injury (out 6-8 weeks, wrist) and Evans’ quick development. 9.6M in 2010. I know, I didn’t think so. He and TP probly wouldn’t get along.

by Ed (dfjmed) on Nov 19, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Kevin Martin isn’t a PG or a playmaker by any stretch of the imagination. He knows how to do one thing and that’s putt the ball in the cup, which is useful but not for us. He routinely finishes games with 20+ points, 0 assists, 0 rebs.

"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams." -Willy Wonka

by Rich Town on Nov 20, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Ugh. AD has less left than Findog. I have some great memories, and I even have an AD #33 Spurs jersey, but I think it would be a disaster. Plus, we’d have to waive Hairston(good luck convincing Holt to waive anyone with guaranteed salary).

The Spurs - now playing defense again! ...but only against Dallas.

by Tim C. on Nov 19, 2009 11:56 PM CST up reply actions  

We just need a 3rd string PG. A player that will be happy playing some minutes when there are injuries and the rest of time he’’ll be inactive. I think AD will be a great fit for that.

by spursfan87 on Nov 20, 2009 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

No, he is bad. I would prefer Marcus Williams. Or Stephon Marbury.
Joking

by biolb on Nov 20, 2009 12:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah we just need a fill-in PG

However, good point by Tim C. if we have to waive Hairston to get AD. I’m having second thoughts…

by Robby23 on Nov 20, 2009 12:32 AM CST up reply actions  

we could have started Iverson while Tony is out …

by Kondor on Nov 20, 2009 12:41 AM CST up reply actions  

We’re saying a point guard not a ball hog.

"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams." -Willy Wonka

by Rich Town on Nov 20, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

be careful, JV is available….

by BlaseE on Nov 20, 2009 8:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Timmy had 80 minutes in 26 hours. In two losses. That’s just not smart. Blowouts would be better.

I have never seen that many airballs at any level above 4th grade YMCA ball.

by doggydogworld on Nov 20, 2009 12:24 AM CST reply actions  

I’m ready to fire our orthopedic doctor, physical therapists, and trainers!

by janieannie on Nov 20, 2009 12:31 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Lets hire the Phoenix staff. I recommended this last year. I swear players go to Phoenix and they’re injury free (minus A’m’a’r’e).

by xman130 on Nov 20, 2009 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I’ve been considering a trade for the Phoenix trainers for quite some time now.

"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams." -Willy Wonka

by Rich Town on Nov 20, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

It is a long freaking season. That is all.

Neither he nor Gob were prepared for the challenges of using cats to catch a seal.

by Cedarpark on Nov 20, 2009 12:32 AM CST reply actions  

...

We still have a long way to go…. the next games should be handled by the Spurs.

by Robby23 on Nov 20, 2009 12:33 AM CST up reply actions  

let’s use Ian and Marcus! bench Bonner!

If you liked it then you should have put a 5th ring on it. Oh oh oh.

by TDzilla! on Nov 20, 2009 2:38 AM CST reply actions  

especially Haislip

by biolb on Nov 20, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Per ESPN’s Daily Dime: QUOTE OF THE NIGHT

“If the playoffs started tomorrow, I think we’d be in trouble. But we’ve got a long way to go.”

— Forward Tim Duncan on San Antonio, which is now 4-6 after losing to Utah

Tim’s right. We would be in trouble, because if the playoffs started tomorrow, we’d be in the lottery. We wouldn’t even be an 8th seed in the East….

by BlaseE on Nov 20, 2009 8:58 AM CST reply actions  

I’m scared to go to the ESPN site…I still believe this was just a bad dream. Right?

by spursfan_needs_counseling on Nov 20, 2009 9:18 AM CST reply actions  

Well, that didn’t go well at all. I’m ready for TP to come back…our offense needs a pick me up.

by Big50 on Nov 20, 2009 9:50 AM CST reply actions  

Has anyone ever seen anything like what Ratliff did to Boozer in the 3rd quarter? Boozer set up on the low block but instead of guarding him, Theo went all the way to the other side of the rim and left him wide open. It’s like they placed a side bet on whether Theo could block his dunk.

Theo may have won the bet in convincing fashion, but Pop pulled him at the next dead ball and that was the last we saw of Theo. He’ll probably be on waivers next week.

by doggydogworld on Nov 20, 2009 12:13 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, I noticed that too. I told my friend, ‘That looked a lot like he left Boozer open on purpose.’

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Nov 20, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe I’m delusional, or perhaps I’ve fallen back into Pollyanna mode (I do that sometimes), but I’m okay with this, and I’m even okay with our start. I don’t like some of these close games we’ve been losing, but we aren’t looking outclassed on the floor by any means. I think we’ve had a fully healthy Manu for maybe 4 games. We’ve had a fully healthy TP for maybe 3 games (or maybe 0, because crack on him all you want, but he’s like the Warner Bros. Tasmanian Devil out there, and he’s not going to let on if he’s not 100%).

We’re depleted and we’re trying to work a lot of new guys into the team. Timmy has been looking GOOD lately, have you noticed? I’m not going to start wringing my hands until we’ve played 21 games. That’s my magic and completely arbitrary Panic Room number. Twenty-one.

Try the new PtR--now entirely BAT-FREE!

by Lauri on Nov 20, 2009 12:26 PM CST reply actions  

I will hang out with you. Till 21. While waiting, can we slip something in Bonner’s hoagies to keep him sedated.

by LionZion on Nov 20, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

For the record, I’m also fine(read the tags on this article). With a healthy TP and Manu, we’re 6-4 right now. The sky is not falling, and I’m not cliffjumping anytime soon. But I’ll stick with ya on the 21 games suggestion – if we still suck after 21, it’s panic time.

The Spurs - now playing defense again! ...but only against Dallas.

by Tim C. on Nov 20, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep, as tough as it’s been to watch the last few games I agree, no reason to totally lose it yet. Tim is looking solid, we’re just having some growing pains.

Anyone else just totally despise Gooden now ?? Damn scary how well he fits in with the crappy crew in Dallas. Guess he has been with so many different teams he has that ability to blend in right away. Assery seems to fit him well.

Timmy D .... enough said.

by Ms. Smith on Nov 20, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I didn’t mean to imply you were panicking. Just my own little manifesto.

TO 21!

Try the new PtR--now entirely BAT-FREE!

by Lauri on Nov 20, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

21? Kevin Durant's Age, no?

Coincidence?. . .hmm.

The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."

by olf on Nov 20, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Duncan’s number, perhaps?

by BlaseE on Nov 20, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, yeah. . . Alright then. (Just seemed fishy. :)

The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."

by olf on Nov 20, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I shall not dignify this speculation with further comment.

OF COURSE IT’S TIMMY’S NUMBER!

::smoothing hair::

Okay, starting now, I shall not dignify this speculation with further comment.

Try the new PtR--now entirely BAT-FREE!

by Lauri on Nov 20, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

You two are going to love my preview for the Wiz game.

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Nov 20, 2009 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

It just bothers me that in these losses Timmeh has been playing ALOT.

"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams." -Willy Wonka

by Rich Town on Nov 20, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Haislip deserves more consideration. He was a very good player in Europe. When you see how effective guys like Marc Gasol, Ilyasova, Will Bynum, Scola can be, I think he deserves to have a run on the floor.

by biolb on Nov 20, 2009 12:47 PM CST reply actions  

Now is not the time for self-mutilation or suicide (although it passed my mind after every one of Boozer’s wrinkly-head closeups at the free-throw line, albeit after three-point poopie plays).

But last year, these same Ol’ Spurs started 5-6, and last time I checked that ain’t too far from 4-6. Again, its the same story as last year, as all the parts of the team try to gain momentum for the long season, but it can’t happen right now because of injuries. If you think about it, its been since game 5 against the Trailblazers that this whole team has played together. That’s only 5 games together!

There must be more time for the Spurs to coalesce together, and soon McDyess and Jefferson will be integrated more into pick-and-pop or pick-and-roll plays so that they can get more shots up. Also, how about the team try a very crazy lineup of Blair at the 3 spot? I’m sure he could devour a few rebounds in that position and also be able to post up more effectively there….

Just giving ya’ll something to think about..

by ZeusVizzle on Nov 20, 2009 4:30 PM CST reply actions  

we need Vinny Del Negro to come back…that would be an instant championship right there

"There are two things in life that should never go together.....those two things are cheese and herpes..." - Santa Claus

by Cello the great on Nov 20, 2009 5:27 PM CST reply actions  

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