We Can't Pretend That Didn't Happen - Alternate Thunder Recap
Well, none of us want to talk about it, but it can't be ignored. The Oklahoma City Thunder seem to have our Spurs' number. This is an attempt to figure why they beat us this time.
As much as the Thunder seem to always give the Spurs nightmares, some troubling trends appear when confronted with actually watching this game as it happened. Some of the same problems that have caused us to lose other game were apparent in this game, but more frightening is that an adjustment made by the Spurs seemed to exacerbate one of those problems. Some of the issues are with the mental side of the game, but what's worse is that collectively, the Spurs didn't seem to have the heart required to win a game against a young, hungry team like OKC. Follow me beyond the jump for incoherent rambling disguised as analysis.
As a starting point, I decided to get a look at the shot chart for this game, and compare it to the one that Graydon over at 48MoH used to help dissect why we won the game against Dallas earlier in the week. It was a somewhat helpful excercise, even if it doesn't tell us the whole story.
First, here's what happened against the Mavs:
Graydon writes:
Put less laboriously, make layups and shoot threes. Make your opponents take mid-range jumpers and little else. It’s the best way to balance questions of value and distance.
It's a simple concept, but executing this type of strategy has been less than a foregone conclusion for the Spurs this season. Against Dallas, they did a pretty good job of executing their offense, as is evidenced by the shot chart. On the defensive end, it doesn't seem like the Spurs had such an obvious edge from the visual aid.
And now, the shot chart from last night's game against the Thunder:
A couple of things stand out here for me, from a defensive point of view. First and foremost, there are a lot more OKC made baskets near the rim than in the Dallas shot chart. Second, OKC couldn't miss from the top of the key. On the offensive side, the Spurs seem to have taken a few more shots from the 10-15 foot range against OKC. If they hadn't made those shots at a very good clip(they did), this game would not have been as close as it was. Basically, the Thunder did an excellent job of executing their game plan, to the detriment of the Spurs.
So, why was OKC able to do such a good job of executing against us? Are they just a terrible mismatch for us, or was there more to it? As someone who watched the entire game somewhat perplexed by what was happening, let me tell you that there was definitely more to it.
The Mismatch
Make no mistake, the Thunder pose several problems for the Spurs. But no matter what anyone tells you, age has very little to do with it.
First, OKC has the personnel to negate the Spurs biggest advantage over most other teams: our backcourt is extremely skilled. But let's take a look at the Thunder backcourt for a moment, shall we?
Russell Westbrook is 6'3", but has a nearly 6'8" wingspan
Thabo Sefolosha is a 6'7" SG, with a wingspan somewhere in the neighborhood of 6'10"
Kevin Durant is 6'10", with a wingspan of nearly 7'5"(as a Small Forward!!)
I probably don't have to tell how ridiculous it is for a team to have that much length in the backcourt, but all 3 of those guys are also fast and very athletic. And this is without making mention of the first backcourt player off the bench for the Thunder, James Harden(6'5", 6'11" wingspan).
The Spurs only have one backcourt player who can match that combination of length, speed and athleticism, and he had an excellent game as a result. You probably already guessed who that player is: George Hill.
Beyond The Mismatch
So, we've got that mismatch discussion out of the way, and it's pretty obvious that was a factor in the game. But this was a very winnable game for the Spurs, and for all the talk of mismatches and chemistry, the key to the loss was much simpler than that: it came down to effort and heart.
This was a painful game to watch. Even though the box score will tell you that OKC shot 46.8%, the same percentage as the Spurs, the defense in the second half was almost as bad as it was against Toronto on Monday.
Defense
Watching it live, one would have observed many, many uncontested jumpers in the third quarter. First the jumpers were coming from the likes of Nenad Krstic and Sefalosha, but then even Durant was getting them. Nobody in a white jersey even attempted to get a hand in their shooters' face for the better part of the third quarter. Sure, they were mid-range and long-range shots, but the OKC shooters had time to set up and a clear look at the rim.
The Spurs followed that with a 4th quarter in which they allowed the Thunder to penetrate the interior defense almost at will. Even though most of the shots in that situation were being contested, they were still going in - once you get that close to the rim, it takes quite a disruption to make NBA players miss.
Offense
As mentioned earlier, Cubits is the only player who matches up favorably with the Thunder backcourt from a physical perspective, and it showed. Our backcourt players not named George Hill went a combined 12-39 from the field. To be fair, Manu alone was 0-8, but the other guys either weren't taking a lot of shots(because they couldn't) or weren't making them. Either way, the offense was ugly and disjointed. In particular, Richard Jefferson was very tentative, and definitely wasn't doing the kind of damage he is capable of.
There was also a very bizarre sequence in the second half, when Bonner had a 2-1 break after a steal. Rather than taking it to the paint, where he could finish or dump it off to the trailer, Matt stopped and dribbled backwards out toward the perimeter, waiting for everyone else to get back down the court. The Spurs didn't score on that possession. This was just one example of the Spurs seemingly not wanting the game bad enough to do what was necessary. Matt's played pretty well off the bench, but that kind of thing is inexcusable - at the very least, he could have drawn a foul on Durant(the only OKC player that was in front of him).
Richard Jefferson wasn't taking the ball to the rim, and instead kept deferring to Tony Parker, Hill and Tim Duncan, even though his strength should cause a hell of a mismatch with Durant. In Hill's and Duncan's case, this was a good enough strategy, but I still would have liked to see RJ try to use his strength to power his way to the rim more often. I saw him do just that... once, and he went to the free throw line as a result. Deferring to Tony was a mistake, however. The wee Frenchman picked a bad game to come back from his ankle woes, as the aforementioned Westbrook was able to harass him all night and force mistakes. Tony will be back in full one-men fast break mode soon, and probably would not have looked as bad or as slow if not for the missed time. But RJ shouldn't be deferring to Tony on offense. When you're the team's leading scorer, you should always be looking for to get yourself involved first.
Other Random Observations
A few other telling stats from the box score are 3-point percentage, offensive rebounds and blocked shots. Quite frankly, I'm getting really tired of seeing the latter two stats being skewed like this every single game.
Both teams made 16.7% of their threes, but we took 6 more shots from deep than they did. Once again, Mr. IUPUI was our savior, making 2-4 for the only respectable 3-point shooting night of any Spur. Manu was 0-4, and The Zombie was 0-2, so our 2 most prolific wing shooters weren't exactly lighting the nets on fire.
The blocks are getting old. As much as I love Cubits, he seems to get a couple of his shots blocked in every single contest, and tonight was no different. Normally, the Spurs are on the wrong end of the blocked shots comparison, but it's usually close. Last night the disparity was 10-3, probably due to the ridiculous length of the Thunder lineup. Still, it would be nice to see George learn to finish with his left hand, and for Dejuan Blair to be a bit more patient(ball fakes, maybe?) when he gets the ball under the rim.
Speaking of Blair, the 10 offensive rebounds for the Thunder, while not excessive, should not be happening when either Blair, Duncan or Antonio McDyess are in the game at all times. Duncan and Dice mostly did their part, but Blair was remarkably bad on offense tonight, and only got 1 rebound to boot. Somebody needs to light a fire under him, because he didn't even seem very interested in getting after the boards tonight, from what I watched.
Anyway, I hope all this made sense. If not, it was the allergy medicine talking. Let's hope the Spurs won't suffer from a lack of effort again on Wednesday night in Dallas. Win or lose, they should at least be giving us more effort than we saw tonight after Pop lays into them during video sessions.
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Dallas is going to come at us hard—we’ll have to give it our all, or we’ll get beat. And it’s interesting to read your observations on length and youth and drive, Tim. During the game I kept thinking that Hill was the only one of our guys who looked like OKC—long, athletic, hungry.
Is anyone watching the Rockets and Lakers? The Rockets are up by 10 in the 4th!
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by Lauri on Nov 15, 2009 10:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
By the way, OKC lost to the Clippers tonight. Durant scored 40 (with 8 rebounds).
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by Lauri on Nov 15, 2009 10:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Houston is outfighting the Lakers for boards, and now they’re up by 12. How sweet is this for Ariza, to be beating Artest in LA?
There will be much gnashing of teeth tonight in Laker Land.
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by Lauri on Nov 15, 2009 10:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think Kobe just shot an airball!
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by Lauri on Nov 15, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I officially hate the Thunder and want us to beat them in the most humiliating way possible next time we meet them, with Durant having an awful +/- number and Hollinger writing about it.
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by Hipuks on Nov 15, 2009 10:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bryant just left the game.
Lakers shooting 37%
Aaron Brooks with 33 points in 39 minutes.
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by Lauri on Nov 15, 2009 10:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kobe 5-20. I wonder if familiarity had anything to do with it.

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by Tim C. on Nov 15, 2009 10:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He was limping when he left the game, like a hamstring or something had stiffened up on him.
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by Lauri on Nov 15, 2009 11:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lakers Injury Report
Bryant. . .was suffering from a strained right groin, which the Lakers revealed actually happened Nov. 8 against New Orleans.
And my eyes are still burning from having to watch the last couple of (LAL) games. Things are so bad, even Suns fans are making fun of us.
And yes I am a 2009 World Champion Fan.
by olf on Nov 16, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We feel your pain, olf. We know only too well what it’s like to have your two (or three) star players injured. . . .
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by Lauri on Nov 16, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I suggest tightening your chinstrap it looks to be a wild ride this season.
And yes I am a 2009 World Champion Fan.
by olf on Nov 16, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What if neither the Lakers nor Spurs win the West? 2006 all over again? Noooooo!
"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50
by theonlyromeo on Nov 16, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Unacceptable. Unless it’s Portland. Actually, no – it’s still unacceptable.
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by Tim C. on Nov 16, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know but I’m getting tired of being down in the standings looking up at the F’ing Suns. The view from here makes me feel like an Arizona proctologist.
And yes I am a 2009 World Champion Fan.
by olf on Nov 17, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Suns play the Rockets tonight. Here’s hoping those Rockets still have the flaming mo’.
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by Lauri on Nov 17, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. The game ended, and the crowd is actually booing the Lakers.
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by Lauri on Nov 15, 2009 10:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
let me see..we didn’t match up with young, long, athletic players…yet we fu%^ing have mahinmi, haislip, and hairston just sittin there. i’m seriously getting fed up with this crap, it’s like i’m seeing a replay of last season only now we have RJ in a spurs jersey. come on pop, get your head out of your a$$. also, it’s always sweet when the lakers get booed on their own court!
by metroplex on Nov 15, 2009 11:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great analysis Tim. We must be ready for Dallas on Wednesday too. And…The Lakers Lose!!!
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by Ed (dfjmed) on Nov 15, 2009 11:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Some inferior teams just have superior teams numbers and give them fits. For the celtics its atlanta, for the lakers it’s the rockets and for us it’s the thunder. Go figure.
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by Manuwar on Nov 16, 2009 12:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Thunder aren’t really the same as Atlanta or Houston yet.
by BlaseE on Nov 16, 2009 8:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TP shot too much, Manu too. Now that there are other options available like RJ, they should give him the ball more when they are not shooting well. About Durant’s length, he still doesn’t kn ow how to use it. He s not really a good defender.
by biolb on Nov 16, 2009 1:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tim I feel your pain. I have also felt a lack of effort on the few times I get to watch the Spurs. It seems that some of our guys dont have their edge yet or have lost it. I think part of the problem might be coaching. I wonder how good of a motivator Pop is. He might be a masterful tactician and a genius on the court but I wonder what the progress is in getting this team motivated to play hard every game on both sides of the court.
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by LasEspuelas on Nov 16, 2009 8:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The main lack of effort I saw was Tim Duncan’s defense, which has to be intentional. TP giving Westbrook a wide open three early in the 3rd may have also been intentional. The rest of the guys played hard. Bogans is lost on transition D, though, and also made some rookie mistakes (e.g. letting Durant manufacture that early 3 point “shooting” foul).
Blair’s lack of rebounds came from playing against long, athletic first stringers. He got his fingertips on many missed Spurs shots — against second stringers those would have been rebounds. On the defensive end he guarded Jeff Green out at the three point line. Green got zero rebounds on him in the first half but did grab two in that bad stretch early in the 3rd.
by doggydogworld on Nov 16, 2009 2:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
When Krispy Kristic is making clutch jump shots on one end & Jefferson has only 4points (in nearly 40 minutes of play) on the other………. what can you say. I’m speechless.
If less is more, imagine how much more more would be.
by JonnyJam on Nov 16, 2009 3:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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