Spurs vs. Thunder: Stat of the Game

by Fred Silva on Oct 21, 2009 5:21 PM CDT in Game Previews & Recaps Comment 166 comments

20 points 6-7 FGM-A in 16 minutes, 9 points 3-5 FGM-A in 17 minutes. Those are Michael Finley's and Matt Bonner's stats, respectively. I don't know about you, but the fact that they produced this well in the starting lineup made me cringe, just slightly. So, should we expect to see these two in the starting lineup against the Hornets?

Is Coach Pop seriously considering only starting 3 of the Spurs' best 5 players? I think the answer is 'yes' and here's the logic. Michael Finley is a career starter. That's what he knows how to do and he does it fairly well, even at his veteran age. By bringing him off the bench one would negate his positive influence. He is a solid player, makes few mistakes, and opens the floor; all things that you want from a starter. One thing that Finley does not bring is energy. He is not a guy that will change the pace of the game, which is greatly what you want out of a bench player. So even though Ginobili is the better player, one would maximize Finley's contributions by starting him instead.

Matt Bonner is an atrocious defender. He seems to arrive just in time on his help defense to get dunked on or commit the foul. However, he is probably our best offensive sidekick for Tim Duncan. I know Antonio McDyess can shoot and DeJuan Blair has been more than impressive; but as of right now, Coach Pop has to have more confidence in starting Bonner since he started last year and has played well during the preseason. After the Spurs' defeat to the Lakers two years ago, the decision was made by the coaching staff that the Spurs were not offensive-minded enough. I remember Coach Pop saying that despite the great defense that the Spurs played against the Lakers, we lost because we could not score enough points. The following year Bowen saw his role reduced and Bonner came out of nowhere to start. I think they will keep this offensive mindset this season and play Bonner more than most would like.

My feeling is that while starting Finley and Bonner will not improve our starting lineup, the second unit will be vastly improved. Sometimes you have to sacrifice one aspect of the game for another in order to give your team the best chance to win. Coming off the bench, we will have Hill, Mason, Ginobili, Blair and McDyess. What second unit in the NBA can match up with them? The energy that Hill, Ginobili, and Blair will bring to the game will completely change the pace and be unmatched. Blair and McDyess will gobble up every rebound in sight while Hill will be able to lead the break with Ginobili and Mason on the wings and Blair cleaning up after them.

Obviously, I could be completely off here. I mean, who knows what's going on in Pop's head? But I do think the thing to take away from this is that the Spurs are so deep this year that it really would be impossible to mess up. We have 10 very good players, and one could make the case for 9 of them to start. (George Hill can't start, we already have a point guard.) This is groundbreaking for the Spurs. Have you ever seen nine startable players on a Spurs' roster? Not even in '03.

And regardless of who starts the game, the fourth quarter lineup of a close game will include Parker, Ginobili, RJ, and Duncan with whichever big guy is playing best at the time. As I said before, with this much talent it's nearly impossible to make a wrong move. This is getting me excited. Is it the 28th yet?

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Hell, let's do it.

I love this idea, actually. FinDog is going to be on the court at one point or another, and we’ve seen that when there are enough other pieces around him to keep the enemy D busy he can be very effective. With Tony and RJ as top-shelf penetration threats and Timmy being a golden god in the paint, why shouldn’t we have a couple of long-range threats stretching the floor? There’s only one rock to go around – by splitting the team in this way, we’ve got a first unit that will get a lot of high-percentage shots and a second unit that will get a lot of second chances.

Also, I appreciate the notion of pairing Blair with McDyess. Is there another guy in the league you’d rather have teaching Space-Eater the secrets of hard work, smart post play, and knee-maintenance?

by Rand on Oct 21, 2009 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Knee-maintenance? Gold.

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by LatinD on Oct 21, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great points. I think Bonner is going to start, at least early on. He’s been shooting lights out in the preseason so you got to go with the hot hand. Also Mcdyess is not yet in game shape, but he is going to get there and he eventually is going to be the starter.

Finley i looking great this preseason, he looks slimmer and faster, he should be the starter over Mason.

I’m interested in how Pop is going to use Blair, i expect him to be in the 2nd unit but with pop you never know. He might use Theo ahead of him.

by spursfan87 on Oct 21, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You make some great points. My thoughts:

Finley is a terrible defender. It’s not his fault – he’s just too old. But Mason, while not exactly a great defender, is much quicker than the Findog and an even deadlier shooter. It’s easy enough to hide one terrible perimeter defender – but Parker’s defense is pretty terrible most of the time as well. Having both of those guys(Parker & Finley) out there opens a pretty large hole on the defensive end, which is only exacerbated if Bonner gets the nod as well. I think Findog is better complemented by playing alongside Manu and/or Hill.

I have mixed feelings about Bonner, however. I think he’s a great option off the bench, but starting him again opens up too much of a hole in our frontcourt defense early in the game, and it’s extremely difficult(think “wear and tear”) on Timmy to have to make up for that. No denying he improves the offense, but I’d like to see him out there with someone who can make up for his defensive inadequacies, but doesn’t have a vital need to reduce wear and tear during the season like Timmy(i.e. Ratliff, Dice).

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by Tim C. on Oct 21, 2009 5:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Mason has been very off this preseason. I mean, he is air-balling wide open threes off. Finley looks to be in incredible shape and is clearly on target with his shot. He is a liability on the defensive end but if we are playing Duncan fewer minutes, which seems to be the goal, why not put an offensive unit on the floor to start the game and have Duncan clean up after them? BTW, Mason is quicker than Finley but I think they tie as far as their defensive capabilities are concerned.

The starting lineup was not the Spurs issue last year. It was that we didn’t have a punch off the bench without Manu. Now that we have the punch, literally with Blair involved, I like the idea of getting out to an offensive start and following that up with energy off the bench.

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by Fred Silva on Oct 21, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

IMO Finley is a better defender than Mason, and he is bigger and stronger

by spursfan87 on Oct 21, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who comes off the bench to play the 3 in your scenario? Just curious – that’s where I see Fin’s greatest value.

9.20.21.24.34
ACLs are like crutches. They’re only for the weaklings who can’t get along without them. -jollyrogerwilco

by Tim C. on Oct 21, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

good point, maybe it can be hairston is he gets the pt. But i also expect RJ to play big minutes this season.

by spursfan87 on Oct 21, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know we all like him here, but Pop doesn’t trust Hairston yet. And he does make a lot of the mistakes that are expected from young players, while Fin doesn’t. Hairston will probably get a lot out of having fin as a mentor, but I don’t expect a major role from him… if he even makes the team(fingers crossed). And yes, RJ will probably play big minutes – either he or Tony will probably lead the team in minutes played, for good reason.

Ahh, is it the 28th yet?

9.20.21.24.34
ACLs are like crutches. They’re only for the weaklings who can’t get along without them. -jollyrogerwilco

by Tim C. on Oct 21, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think you mean Har-i-ston.

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by CapHill on Oct 21, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+ 1

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by 'DSilverlining on Oct 21, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s catching on. Excellennnnttttt.

by Rich Town on Oct 21, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ain’t it amazing what bad pronunciation can do?

It gave us The Sickness, now it gives us Har-i-ston, which will do until we get us a real nick for him.

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by jollyrogerwilco on Oct 27, 2009 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think we go somewhat small with Mason playing the 2 and Manu at the 3. But like y’all pointed out, RJ will be playing the 3 for the majority of the game and Pop never substitutes 5 in 5 out.

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by Fred Silva on Oct 21, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pretty much what I was thinking during the game. Both Finley and Bonner are streaky shooters, but they tend to be game-streaky. A quick glance at their accuracy during the first quarter could be enough to decide whether they had the hot hand that day, and if it fails, we would have the best bench in the league to step up and take names and chew gum.

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by LatinD on Oct 21, 2009 5:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Forget the offense. I want to see what starting unit is best defensively. So Timmy + RJ + Tony + what two pieces make the best starting defensive unit. I would like to see Pop start with that and go from there.

by LionZion on Oct 21, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Parker, Ginobili, RJ, McDyess and Duncan make up our best defensive lineup, I think. One could argue for Ratliff instead of McDyess, but let’s wait until we see more of Theo. I still do not know what he’s good at other than getting the occasional block and having a funky midrange shot.

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by Fred Silva on Oct 21, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds good. I think like the guys on 48mins conjectured, Theo will play a big role in limited mins, but probably not start.

The above lineup, imo, is what we will finish the season with and start in the playoffs. Pop has to preserve Manu. Making him start with an abundance of other options will let him ease in. At some point in the season, he will prob still toy with Manu off bench.

But the above unit’s defense should be decent and I hope we start with that.

by LionZion on Oct 21, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I read that about Theo. Here’s the thing, he was drafted in ‘95-’96. In the past four years, here are his games played numbers, with most recent first: 46, 26, 2, 55. I’m just saying….

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by Fred Silva on Oct 21, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I still think Ratliff is done. D-U-N done.

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by silverandblack_davis on Oct 21, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Ratilff well get about 10-14 min a game. He is going to get big min if the spurs have trouble guarding some of the bigs out west like Gasol,Bynum,Boozer and others. I like the idea of Manu being our SF and hill being our 2. Altough it seems that Hill has improved his range from 3 a lot this season so that should be good. IN the end I dont think the spurs will be starting Finley but who knows.

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by Manu-20 on Oct 22, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great read. But I dont agree with what you are saying. How do you expect Timmy to play defense, get rebounds night in and night out without having help from another big. He has knee issues, remember?I might agree with Finley starting, but not with Bonner.

Having said that, in the beginning of the season, till everyone is comfortable with the system, I can see Bonner starting. But I would think Pop would phase him out slowly from the starters list.

Now, what Pop does is beyond anyone’s thought. Let us trust Pop puts in the best lineup. In POP we trust.

by Heman on Oct 21, 2009 5:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The same way he did it last season, except now he has RJ in the lineup instead of old guy X. His knees wore down, obviously. But he lost 15 pounds, had an extended summer vacation, and now we have McDyess, Blair, Bonner, and Ratliff to use to reduce his overall minutes. I think he plays for shorter amounts of time with more rest in between. I’m not saying he should play 48 minutes with Bonner, just the first 6 or 7 to jump start the team’s offense.

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by Fred Silva on Oct 21, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This I think is the most plausible scenario. Whatever set Pop uses, offense is pretty much assured. The last word in training camp was D-Fense.

So putting TP-Finley-Bonner together on the floor will put too much pressure on the Big Fundamental’s knees. Would you risk that? It would be missing the whole point of drafting all this bigs.

It’s either Dice or Theo manning the paint, you can’t possibly go wrong with that.

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by 'DSilverlining on Oct 21, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree, I would hope that the Bonner/Finley transparent duo would be kept to a minimum. If one is in the game the other one should sit. I would be OK if one of them starts, preferably Finley.

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by LasEspuelas on Oct 21, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great analysis

I like your way of thinking, but here is what I’m thinking. Why don’t we actually start our best five this time. TD,TP,RJ, Manu, McDyess. This way our starting five overpowers any team in the first quarter, and when our second unit comes in they only need to hold the lead against a tired and demoralized team.
Wouldn’t it be easier physically and mentally for Manu and Tim to play with the best players so they can’t be double teamed?
Of course this all depends on match ups too.

by SaSleepless on Oct 21, 2009 6:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

And by the way, how many 4th quarters did Lebron sit out last year with his useless team? Couldn’t Tim use the rest?

by SaSleepless on Oct 21, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think that hurt the cavs last year. They got used to blowout everybody, and when Orlando challenged them, they did not know how to respond.

by spursfan87 on Oct 21, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think what hurt them besides having a crappy team, is that they only had one major weapon. Also, having a crappy coach didn’t help neither.

by SaSleepless on Oct 21, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the 07 and 08 Cavs were a mediocre team but they knew how to close out games. Just look at the 07 mavs, a great team that got used to blow everybody out, but the the challenged came they did not know what to do, because they did not develop that chemistry that only get playing close games.

The best example is the 08 celtics, they too got used to blow out everybody, then the playoff came and the almost got knock off by the hawk and the cavs, but those 2 series that went 7 games really helped them, they really came together and develop the chemistry needed to be the champions.

I think it is very important for this team to play some close games, we have many new players, and we need to now which guys we can trust in crunch time.

by spursfan87 on Oct 21, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Long live Mr.Bowen

by ddog28 on Oct 21, 2009 7:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

I think our team doesn’t need more experience, just more rest. The Celtics played too hard during the regular season that they were out of steam when the playoffs came around. I mean they only lost like 2 or 3 home games, and most of their loses came on the road.
We will have close games even with our best 5 don’t you worry about that, but do we really need to play as many close games as last season?
We have many clutch players that have been through it all and can always be counted on.
We need more rest and more rest hopefully means health.

by SaSleepless on Oct 21, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes the spurs need the rest but Pop is a master at that. And hell no, we dont need as many close games as last season, but last season we were in a disadvantage (talent wise) with most teams. This year we have a lot of talent but we cant get used to blow everybody out just to get some rest, and Pop knows that. Thats why when the spurs are winning Pop some games makes some moves that not make any sense to us, P.Jackson does that too either dont call a timeout during a run or leave you superstar in the bench just a little bit longer than usual.

I think we need experience, because this is not the same Spurs team. This is going to be a very different offense and a different defense, they need experience playing with each other, and we need to develop team chemistry, and I think the best way to do that is playing some close games during the season, because it all looks good in blowouts, take last night as example, we blew out the thunder, but were the hell was our defense.

by spursfan87 on Oct 21, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow! So are you suggesting that if there is a way to win big and rest our aging starters we shouldn’t do it?

by SaSleepless on Oct 22, 2009 5:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think starting our best 5 would under-utilize them. There are only so many shots to go around and playing Parker, Manu, RJ and Duncan at the same time would limit their effectiveness while rendering out bench inferior to its potential. I have no problem with that lineup finishing the game, just throughout the game I think you want to maximize the players on your roster. And Manu plays best when it’s the Manu Show and he takes or sets up every shot.

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by Fred Silva on Oct 21, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Looking after Timmy’s health is priority number 1. That’s why Pop brought in Dice and Ratliff – to do the hard banging on the defensive end and take some burden off TD. It would be a bit illogical to start Bonner or play him big minutes with TD if one of main goals is to protect his health. I think Bon-Bon will only get 15mpg.

We should only use our best five to close out close games.

I would start TP, RJ, TD, Finley, Dice

IF looking for an offensive 2nd Unit: HIll, Manu, Mason, Blair, Bonner

If looking for a defensive 2nd Unit: Hill, Manu, Bogans, Blair, Ratliff

by DanF20 on Oct 21, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Great 'Stat of the Game' post to get the creative juices flowing on PtR

I also like the way DanF split out the offensive and defensive 2nd teams. Good stuff from every one on this post.

by LakehillsFan on Oct 21, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hill at the end of games

You mentioned Tim, Tony, Manu, RJ and another big for closing out games, however I think that Hill has a good shot at being on the floor as well, depending on matchups. His defense has been great and so far this year his offense has been superb as well.

by Spurlady on Oct 21, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I could see Hill on the floor early on in the season if Pop wants to see what he’s like with the game on the line. But I think you have to go with Mason or Finley as the fifth guy if you’re taking the game seriously. I know what Finley brings to the table. He’s going to shoot if he’s wide open, otherwise he’s going to fill the position and not make a mental error. Although Hill is an upgrade defensively, teams will leave him to double anyone else as he has not proven that he can hit the open three consistently. So unless Pop feels comfortable with Hill taking a lot of shots with the game on the line, I don’t think he sees the floor at the end of close games.

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by Fred Silva on Oct 21, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mason or Finley plays no. 2. They could never take the point (where Hill is). but I see what you’re driving at. Manu will most definitely take that position to close it out.

Hill can come in if the enemy’s has the ball and we need a stop then put in TP at the next dead ball for the offense.

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by 'DSilverlining on Oct 21, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Finley starts I think that makes for less minutes for Mason. Out of all the starters, Jefferson will probably will probably log in the most minutes. So his back-up will have very little minutes and needs to be ready when his number is called. And I think Finley knows how to better handle that kind of role than Mason is.

Bonner shouldn’t start period. McDyess is way more suited for that. Red Rocket is like the PERFECT 3rd option off the bench. That should be his role.

My rotation
Parker/Hill
Mason Jr/Ginobili
Jefferson/Finley
Duncan/Blair
McDyess/Bonner

Ratliff and Hairston round out the roster for situation purposes.

by r21x on Oct 21, 2009 8:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You left out Ratliff and Ian. Bonner might slide to PF.

And Finley? I’ll take Hairston. He’s a better all-around player. Finley’s only good for the clutch shot. He can come in if he has a weaker match up or if it’s a lottery team. He’s too big a liability on defense. First, he can’t cover his man. This would be another strain on Duncan.
Second, he can’t provide help defense. Which we really need after Bowen’s departure. It’s team defense now. That’s the Spurs policy nowadays.

The signing of Bogans is largely underrated but could be the x factor.

DeJuan Blair is Mr.Snuffleupagus of teh NBA. Freak of nature (elongated arms,ginormous behind), effin unbelievable (rebounding machine), blows you away (for a rook) n cuddly cute.

by 'DSilverlining on Oct 21, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I also left out Ian and Ratliff, on purpose. First, Ian is a waste of time. Second, the fifth and sixth big men do not get significant minutes and I think Blair established himself as the fourth big, with Duncan, McDyess, and Bonner. And thinking that there is a difference between a 4 and 5 is misleading. Just think of them as interchangeable.

And while you may take Hairston over Finley, Pop will not. I could go on, but Hairston barely made the team; Finley might start.

Bogans will get situational minutes unless he proves that he can contribute on the offensive end. We didn’t let Bowen go so we could play a poor man’s Bowen.

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 21, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree on your first two points. I was just wanted to pint out Ian & Ratliff are pretty valuable assets that needs mentioning.

Pop, of course, will pick tried & proven Finley. No argument on that. Hairston’s my underdog. And I love those types.

And on why we traded Bowen, I think you already know the answer to that. Bogans just that – poor man’s Bowen

DeJuan Blair is Mr.Snuffleupagus of teh NBA. Freak of nature (elongated arms,ginormous behind), effin unbelievable (rebounding machine), blows you away (for a rook) n cuddly cute.

by 'DSilverlining on Oct 21, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Ian is going to be in the inactive roster, pretty much all season, along with haislip.

by spursfan87 on Oct 21, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you read my mind

DeJuan Blair is Mr.Snuffleupagus of teh NBA. Freak of nature (elongated arms,ginormous behind), effin unbelievable (rebounding machine), blows you away (for a rook) n cuddly cute.

by 'DSilverlining on Oct 21, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah like Fred said, Ratliff is not a rotation player. He is strictly situational. Like when talented big men like Dwight Howard, Shaq and Al Jefferson roll into town. Mahimini hasn’t done anything to warrant playing time. At this point he should either be stuck at the end of the bench or sitting in a suit.

I want Hairston to supplant Finley in the rotation. It could happen. I think he has done enough to make the roster, now he just has to work from there.

by r21x on Oct 21, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope to hell Pop doesnt spend the entire season tinkering with the lineups the way he did last season.

Part of the problem I have with fielding a starting lineup of Duncan/Bonner/Findog/RJ/parker is, do we really want RJ defending the other guys best shooting guard ? What if they have a good shooting guard AND a good small forward ? Finley guards the other guys best small forward OR best shooting guard? ( Can you say , FAIL ??)

If we cant make a very logical starting lineup of Duncan/Mcdyess/RJ/Mase/Parker work,something is indeed wrong…

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by alamobro on Oct 21, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think we are lacking a wing defender regardless of the lineup, although Bogans might fill that void in situational matchups. Neither Mason nor Finley are good defenders. I think RJ gets most of the tough defensive assignments regardless.

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 21, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I must admit , I wouldnt be completely shocked if Pop started Duncan/Bonner/Findog/RJ/parker……. its just that is seems so wrong to actually see Bonner and Findog in a starting lineup..

Then there is the issue of who would be the secondary ballhandler….RJ? Can he handle the Rock that well?

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by alamobro on Oct 21, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

RJ is already a better defender than Fin or Mase just because he’s taller and faster than both of them. That along with the fact that you actually have to play decent defense to guard him makes him a better choice.

by r21x on Oct 21, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Findog and Bonner starting was just Pop experimenting. In an interview after the game,
“We gave away too many points (at the beginning)”. The first half score was pretty close regardless of the outside shooting. Durantula can match up with those guys anytime anyday in offense.

This was the reason they focused on D by the second half and unleashed DeBeast. It was then we pulled away. Blair – the x factor

DeJuan Blair is Mr.Snuffleupagus of teh NBA. Freak of nature (elongated arms,ginormous behind), effin unbelievable (rebounding machine), blows you away (for a rook) n cuddly cute.

by 'DSilverlining on Oct 21, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

First, we had pulled away before Blair entered the game.

And admitting that they gave up too many points “at the beginning,” which was not even his exact words, in no way implies it was an experiment. Finley started 77 games last season while Bonner started 67. An experiment would be starting Ginobili, who started 7 games last year, and new guy McDyess.

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 21, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

What I meant was, in the regular season, it maybe a rarity to see (Finley, Bonner, TP)them together on the starting five.

But I would love to see them. I really do. Don’t get me wrong. I’m just pining for the old Spurs – grinding & suffocating.

DeJuan Blair is Mr.Snuffleupagus of teh NBA. Freak of nature (elongated arms,ginormous behind), effin unbelievable (rebounding machine), blows you away (for a rook) n cuddly cute.

by 'DSilverlining on Oct 21, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

First off, Finley and Bonner ARE NOT starters. If it helps Finley to start the game and play and get some shots off but only get like 10-15 mins a game, I’m ok with that.

Bonner better be buried down as our 4/5 big used for getting some quick 3s like he was born to do.

Bring Manu off the bench like we always do so there’s enough shots to go around between the BIG 3.

And lastly, having a second unit the obliterates everyone else’s is only so effective because the bench plays so few minutes. I’d much rather have a superior 1st team.

by Rich Town on Oct 21, 2009 11:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Finley and Bonner as starters took the Southwest Division last season with 54 wins. Not bad, considering the sixth man of the year was either playing hurt, rusty, or absent.

I’d rather see McDyess and Blair take the majority of the minutes, which I think will happen later in the season, but I was writing about the first game of the season.

And having a good second unit is misleading. I am more for bringing Manu, Hill, and Blair off the bench than anything because I think they will ignite the team. No one substitutes 5 in, 5 out, so talking about a second unit in isolation of the first is inconsequential.

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 21, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

by spursfan87 on Oct 22, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fred. I know you think you are making sense. But, see my sig.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 22, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My bad. I will do my best in the future to stick by the mission statement.

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 22, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good points.

I’m just really not psyched about the possibility of Finley and Bonner in the starting lineup late in the season.

Having Bonner start AND get starter minutes or really anything beyond 10 mins doesn’t leave enough for Blair AND McDyesss both coming off the bench. Then I guess Timmeh will be giving up quite a few minutes too.

My big concern is about having enough minutes between all of our guards. Manu, TP, Mace, Cubits, and Finley are all seen as viable rotation players. Add in Bogans and the fact I’d like to see Hair-i-ston get some minutes and who knows how the minutes will be distributed. Hopefully Findog will spell RJ at SF.

by Rich Town on Oct 22, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

One interesting nugget from last night. RJ was listed as the starting shooting guard and FinDog at small forward.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 22, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can you think of a reason for that?

Seems like RJ matches up ALOT better at SF then SG

by Rich Town on Oct 22, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Um, this is the same guy that plays Duncan at PF when he clearly is a center. I don’t think he loses sleep over the titles.

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 22, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Timmy played center becoz we didn’t have anyone else. Otherwise, during DRob years he was “clearly” a PF. Am sure this is “clear” to Spurs fans by now.

by LionZion on Oct 22, 2009 3:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tim was a PF because David was the clear center. In the same way, for the past several years, Tim has been our clear center because we’ve had guys like Bonner out there with him. Plus, when David was around, Tim was lean and spry. He is still great, but no longer moves like a Lamar Odom.

Regardless, I still don’t think these titles mean much to Pop. He’ll give whichever title to Tim that helps him most with the all star voting.

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 22, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

By the way, guys, can we get three (or four?) all stars this season? Wishful thinking but hey.

"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50

by theonlyromeo on Oct 22, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Another curious ( and frightening ) thing, I dont think the starting lineup we all thought we would see ( Duncan/Mcdyess/RJ/Mase/Parker ) has started a single pre-season game…

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by alamobro on Oct 22, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Manu is eventually starting this season and will be starting in playoffs. Along with McDyess.

Fred, with Finley and Bonner, we barely played passable defense. Can’t do that anymore. No more trying to outshoot opponents in the first five mins and rely on 3s while giving up as much as the other team is willing to take. Nope. I really can’t watch that.

Strongest defensive starting five. In our case, they won’t be a liability on offense. Plus, ppl talk about not enough shots to go around. Who cares, as long as we are taking high percentage shots and converting, during the course of the game, and definitely towards the end, it will be balanced. If not, who cares as long as none of the Big 3 are over exerting.

by LionZion on Oct 22, 2009 3:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The post was about who I thought was going to be in the starting lineup at the beginning of the season. I think it will evolve as the season progresses.

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by Fred Silva on Oct 22, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why do you think Manu will eventually start?

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by LatinD on Oct 22, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Becoz I remember at some point during last season’s injury mess, Pop taking a deep breath and saying “We will start our best players” and Manu’s days of coming off bench are prob over. But that is when he didn’t have much to work with.

Now that he does, I think he will come to the conclusion about the least liability unit on O and D and probably include Manu in starting five. But then again, Pop could go on a whole different philosophy this season. i am just banking on D first.

by LionZion on Oct 22, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully Duncan/Mcdyess/RJ/Mase/Parker will be the starting lineup ( if pop wants to spare me a heart attack)

The boogie man checks his closet for DeJuan Blair before he goes to sleep !

by alamobro on Oct 22, 2009 12:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Finley and Bonner should not start

I hate having Finley and Bonner on the floor together. Neither is a good defender and both are only really good at one thing on offense … hitting wide open shots. This makes their usefulness extremely limited in the playoffs since defense is really important and you tend to face better teams who close out open shots much more quickly. This is why Bonner was atrocious last post season. I don’t mind having one on the floor at a time for limited minutes to help space the floor as long as they’re supported by good defenders. It really scares me when they play well in meaningless games because it’s misleading.

The bottom line is, 3 point oriented teams do great in the regular season and struggle in the post season. A starting lineup including both Bonner and FInley will not get us where we want to go.

by bduran on Oct 22, 2009 12:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I was just talking about the beginning of the regular season. Who steps up and wins the position remains to be seen. We all know Pop doesn’t take the regular season seriously.

Just so y’all know, I would really like to see Parker, Ginobili, RJ, McDyess, and Tim start. I just realize that this is improbable. And I think I talked myself into any starting lineup. The Spurs are too deep for it to matter, at least early on.

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 22, 2009 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t know Fred. I’m okay with Finely starting so long as he comes out rather quickly but Bonner is too much of a liability on defense. Yeah he shoots the shit outa’ the ball but do we really need the extra fire power out there if we’re already going to start Duncan, Parker, RJ and Finley???

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Oct 22, 2009 12:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

As I said before, clearly the coaches have changed their mindset. They want offense. And Bonner was born with the green light and will spread the floor for Duncan much better than anyone else we have available.

I wish Avery was still coaching the Mavs. If they went small on us, Parker, Ginobili, Mason, RJ, Duncan. Ha. I want to see that lineup at some point. Or put Manu at the 3 and Hill/Hairston at the 2. Or Parker, Ginobili, RJ, Blair, Duncan. Having 10 solid players is fun,

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 22, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My dream smallball lineup is Parker/Hill/Manu/RJ/Duncan. Tell me that isn’t a whole bunch of awesome. I’d love to see it in action at some point.

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by Tim C. on Oct 22, 2009 2:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My dream line-up to see in the 4th quarter:

Mahinmi (but he’ll injured himself, so Blair will have to go back for seconds), Bonner, Hairston, Bogans, and Hill Actually, scratch Hill from there, I don’t want him playing too much if he doesn’t have to. How about… find me a Bonner clone and have him run the point. Yes… perfect line-up.

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by the little o on Oct 22, 2009 2:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

BonnerClone?

Jk, this guy in no way compares to Bonner. For starters, he’d be stupid enough to make eye contact after blocking Shaq.

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by the little o on Oct 22, 2009 2:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha, you just described my nightmare.

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by Fred Silva on Oct 22, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he meant that lineup will be in the game because we’re up by 30+

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by Tim C. on Oct 22, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly. but I also wanted to scare people.

When the tooth fairy's own tooth falls out, it is taken during the night by Princess Peanut.

by the little o on Oct 22, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

BTW

the coaches have reverted their mindset starting training camp. Pop talks about it in one of the earlier interviews as well as earlier training camp SA articles about how they tried it for coupla years and are now going back to what worked before.

by LionZion on Oct 22, 2009 3:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, then we need a Bowen. Because without a defensive stopper, you can preach defense all you want but Kobe will still drop 45 on you. The Spurs may preach more defense this year, but that will be so that they do not get carried away with their offense. They have so many weapons that that would be my fear if I were Pop. They can outscore 95% of the teams. They’ll need to play competent D to win it all, though.

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 22, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Need to make Kobe inefficient and uncomfortable. We don’t know what RJ can do yet. In fact, even Hill might have some luck. Who knows, but thats definitely the direction I hope we take.

by LionZion on Oct 22, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Inefficient and uncomfortable? Hmm. Let’s go box and 1 with Blair face guarding him for a quarter. He may foul out in 60 seconds, but it would be worth it.

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 22, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That would be hilarious. Pop should do that the first time we face the Lakers as his token “thumbs up!” move this year.

WWTD?

by Lauri on Oct 22, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In fact, in this years edition of the Laker Show, you can probably slide Kobe to 2nd place and worry about post defense first. They got soo many tall bodies in there, Kobe just needs to close his eyes and throw it up there.

by LionZion on Oct 22, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Im down with Kobe AVERAGING 45 as long as the Spurs beat them in a series…

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by alamobro on Oct 22, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly, as good as Kobe is, you can live with him scoring 45 on 50% shooting and some free throws as long as Gasol, Odom and cia are kept in check.

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by Chilai on Oct 23, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, so we waived Jerrels today!

Damn, does that mean Hairston made it?!!
Happy happy joy joy!!

by LionZion on Oct 22, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No, Williams and/or Hairston are still unguaranteed, and could be waived at any time.

9.20.21.24.34
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by Tim C. on Oct 22, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oopsie

Forgot about Williams :O. Crap

by LionZion on Oct 22, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I own a Matt Bonner Spurs jersey

Thanks, Fred

by BigGreenIrish on Oct 22, 2009 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The entire point of the off season acquisitions,

was that there was just not enough in the tank anymore. The spurs went out and spent big because the bonners and findogs of this world were not the players they needed to get the job done.

You cannot have a good defense with 2/3’rds of your starting five being liabilities and at least one other (Frenchy) being average to slightly above.

McDyess is starting.

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by Bushka on Oct 22, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Pop said earlier in the preseason that the team wanted to go back to being a dominant defensive team, so I think he’ll start Mcdyess…why do I feel like I’m spelling it wrong. Oh well to lazy to verify.

by JaySo on Oct 22, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Thought y’all might enjoy this. I’m having fun on SpursTalk.

BTW, can we tell them not to post the entire article so people go to the site that has the article? This is anarchy.

Originally Posted by superjames1992
“The hate for Bonner on this forum is hilarious…”

I agree. Bonner is not great by any means but at least he is goofy, takes every shot possible, and hits his threes. There are worse things.

For example, Oberto, Elson, the corpse of Robert Horry (I mean his last year with us, not when he was awesome,) Nazr, Rasho (was he not the worst? At least Nazr could get in the way defensively, although he had bricks for hands,) Sean Marks, Massenburg, the corpse of Kevin Willis, the soon to be called corpse of Theo Ratliff, and Danny Ferry (who did play underneath.) Do you like any of those options? Some bring defense with negative offense and some bring below average offense with negative defense (looking at you Rasho.) If Bonner arrived this season, I would argue people would be glad of the addition, and, admittedly, glad that McDyess would start game 1.

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 22, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Your post stuck in my head today, Fred, while I spent 10 hours in my car. Yes, it would be detrimental to start both Bonner and Finley from a defensive standpoint, but you’d know within 5-6 minutes whether either is “on” that game. If he is, then use that to the team’s advantage to keep the other team running around defensively. If not, sit him for the rest of the game and bring in someone else. Nothing in the rules says a starter has to play major minutes.

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Oct 22, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No one reads my comments. :)

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by LatinD on Oct 22, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You need more dunking cheerleaders in them.

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by LatinD on Oct 22, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I had, but that was before I spent 10 hours driving today. So, it’s quite possible that I had forgotten your wonderful comment and since it wasn’t yellow anymore, I didn’t re-read it. So, PPPPPPBBBBBBFFFFFFTTT! Besides, you should be happy that someone as BRILLIAN as me agrees with you. ;-)

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Oct 22, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tell me “yellow” is a manner of speaking. It’s tan-ish to me. Otherwise, I must be colorblind. Or my screen is f*cked up.

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by theonlyromeo on Oct 22, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude, you have problems… it’s pretty much yellow. Not that gaudy god awful Laker yellow, but yellow none the less.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney

by bellasa on Oct 22, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh thank the FSM. I thought I had my colors wrong after all these years.

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Oct 22, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least there’s Lauri and me. There’s safety in numbers.

Two is a number.

"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50

by theonlyromeo on Oct 22, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay, that was a reply fail. That was supposed to be a reply to bella.

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by theonlyromeo on Oct 22, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s tan-ish for me too, rome.

WWTD?

by Lauri on Oct 22, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe it’s the Firefox effect?

WWTD?

by Lauri on Oct 22, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m using IE. Dunno. But thanks for pretending it’s tan-ish for you too. Appreciate it.

"Yes, it's important that I have good numbers, and I'm well-respected as a player. But I think it's more important that I'm respected as a man." - Some Tall Guy Who Wore #50

by theonlyromeo on Oct 22, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OK, I’m using Firefox, and I can see how someone might think it’s tannish, but it’s really a transparent yellow. Or bella and I have been hitting the sauce again.

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Oct 22, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pats! where you been girl?

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney

by bellasa on Oct 22, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s yellow on mine.

I did some research and the way the pages are styled it looks like it probably varies screen to screen. They are using an outdated, ie deprecated, method for selecting the color that allows the browser to determine it.

Just so you know. It may not be anybody’s screen, it could be system settings or browser settings.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 22, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You and your facts again. You’re just ruining the fun of arguing back and forth in a pointless manner.

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Oct 22, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tools of the trade, dear. Tools of the trade.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 22, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

blah, blah, blah. he’s just making stuff up.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney

by bellasa on Oct 22, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s what I said, tools of the trade.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 22, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

btw, Fred’s going to be pissed when he has to read all these comments and none of them are related to his post.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 22, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Happens all the time, because loser threads are so early 2009.

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by LatinD on Oct 22, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whatever. If he knows anything about this site, it’s that we never stay on topic.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney

by bellasa on Oct 22, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We should just add that to the masthead: PTR – Where we love Manu and never stay on-topic

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Oct 22, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Awww… that’s so sweet.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney

by bellasa on Oct 22, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You want to know what is sad. I spent about 3 hours putting together the international post (the night after knocking out a monster recap) and there are 2 comments. 2. I might have to spice them up.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 23, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hah. romeo had to post a pity comment. But seriously boss, you even said them yourself. Comments are not a good indication if the page is being viewed often or not.

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by silverandblack_davis on Oct 23, 2009 4:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know. I was half fishing, half sarcastic. I like doing the international posts, they just don’t lend themselves to discussion.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 23, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s o.k., Wayne. Next time we’ll hijack the international post for our off topic discussions.

Yu feelz better now?

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney

by bellasa on Oct 23, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, I don’t. I’d much rather impose on Fred than be imposed upon.

Ok, now I feel better.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 23, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha, as i said in our game thread, please do it more often. 160 comments! My article is the hottest girl in your high school. Besides, it dies way before this post blitz happened.

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 23, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True, but it is different when it is your post and it generated a ton of comments and you are keeping up with them and you come back and their are a ton more and you obligated to go through and none of them are relevant. He’ll be pissed. But, it is how it goes.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 22, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I blame LD for this. He’s the one that brought up the controversial subject of COLOR.

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Oct 22, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I brought up the controversial subject of you ignoring me, Cap.

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by LatinD on Oct 22, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know he probably is, but unfortunately, I don’t know (and don’t care) enough to be able to refute him.

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Oct 22, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You can’t refute science, unless you are an Oklahoma Senator.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 22, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

+1

For being funny and right.

9.20.21.24.34
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by Tim C. on Oct 23, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

“tanish” is not a color. There’s yellow, brown, and orange. That’s it. The other colors are fabrications made up my fashion designers.

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by LatinD on Oct 22, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, tell your fashion designers to chill then.

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by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 22, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wha-?

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by LatinD on Oct 22, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he’s especially interested in fashion right now. i think it’s all the stress relating to the great alfajores incident of 2009.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney

by bellasa on Oct 22, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

::waiting::

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 22, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

::still waiting::

c’mon LD, reread your post.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 22, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Something related to “cold” colors? It’s 1:30 AM here, you know.

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by LatinD on Oct 22, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No. The typo. You used ‘my’ instead of ‘by’.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 22, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That wasn’t there 10 seconds ago.

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by LatinD on Oct 22, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But it was there 10 minutes ago.

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by CapHill on Oct 22, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Time isn’t linear.

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by LatinD on Oct 22, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

For the new peeps… even if you do not comment, please set up a screen name and password. New comments appear in yellow and you’ll save yourself alot of time if you do this.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney

by bellasa on Oct 22, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or tan-ish.

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by theonlyromeo on Oct 23, 2009 2:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha, exactly. If Finley is off; BENCH. If Bonner is off; Underneath the Bench. But if one is on, huge bonus. Not much to lose, a lot of threes to gain; especially since we go at least ten deep.

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by Fred Silva on Oct 22, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tell the SpursTalk people not to post as they always do? They have their rules.

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by LatinD on Oct 22, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really? Could you post the Spurs Talk rules for me? I’m curious like a cat. I have a couple of friends that call me whiskers.

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by Fred Silva on Oct 22, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Their rules as in, “there are no rules, take it or leave it”.

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by LatinD on Oct 22, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

1. Be a douche
2. If you’re not a douche, get ganged up on and shouted down by douches.
3. ….unless you have power.

9.20.21.24.34
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by Tim C. on Oct 23, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

4. Have photos of semi-naked to really naked chicks as your sig. If not, just put in a really long-ass, annoying sig.

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by silverandblack_davis on Oct 26, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like that one.

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by LatinD on Oct 27, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We know. We’ve seen your blog.

Consider the gun jumped
5 in 10

by jollyrogerwilco on Oct 28, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are we still required to add a smiley face to ~~soften the blow of a harsh comment~~ make sure everyone knows we’re joking?

Consider the gun jumped
5 in 10

by jollyrogerwilco on Oct 28, 2009 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Watch it if you are unfamiliar, please.

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 22, 2009 10:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haAhdtDmsOw

"GINOBILI!" -- Sir Charles

by Fred Silva on Oct 22, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah, greatness.

Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on Oct 22, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone watching the Denver game?

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed. - CMoney

by bellasa on Oct 22, 2009 11:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No, because then I would be encouraging Stern in his actions in not allowing us to watch preseason games that ARE NOT THE LAKERS! Besides, Project Runway is on.

My people call it "sarcasm." - Lauri

by CapHill on Oct 22, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs