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TWSS: International Roundup -- I think Tiago Splitter will be in a San Antonio Spurs uniform next fall

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Updated with video highlights of the Caja Laboral and Valencia games.

The games have started in Europe and I breakdown Tiago's Caja Laboral team.  The forecast calls for Tiago in San Antonio in the fall.

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Tiago Splitter -- Caja Laboral -- ACB

In this week's ACB game, Laboral beat CB Murcia 88-66 with Tiago putting up a solid 16 points and 6 rebounds in 29 minutes.  He was 7-11 from the field and 2-2 from the line. Caja is now 1-0.  Fernando San Emeterio lead Caja with 22 points and Stanko Barac added 20 points and 6 rebounds.  Stanko is a 7'-1" center who was drafted in the second round of 2007 by the Heat.  I think he was then traded to the Pacers, but he hasn't played in the league.  He's just now 23 years old.


Tiago and Stanko combined to play 46 minutes in a 40 minute game.  They are 7'0" and 7'1" respectively.  That's a big lineup.  Was Tiago playing the 4?  Is Tiago that agile that he can move over and play the 4?  Is he good enough to play away from the basket defensively?

Caja's next game is Thursday against Bizkaia Bilbao Basket.  They are a solid upper half team and should be a good test for Caja.  Yeah, I know I said they only play once a week, but the Euro season's haven't started so they get in a couple mid-week games while they can.

Nando De Colo -- Valencia -- ACB

SpurNando helped get the year off to a good start in the Valencia victory 80-68 over Estudiantes.  Nando had 9 points, 3 rebounds, and 3 assists on 4-11 shooting (1-4 from 3-point) in 26 minutes.  Valencia was led by Blazers first round pick Victor Claver.  Claver had 19 points, 3 rebounds, and 4 assists.  For Estudiantes, cup-of-coffee Spur Blake Ahearn had 22 points on 5-10 3-point shooting.


Next up for Valencia is Regal Barcelona, the big dog in the ACB, on Wednesday at 1:30.  I'm very interested to see how Nando and Valencia fair against the top powers in Euro basketball.

Eric Dawson -- Mitsibishi Diamond Dolphins -- JPL

Mistubishi split a pair of games with Hokkaido over the weekend.  Unfortunately, box scores are not available at the Asia Basket site.

James Gist -- Unknown

Still no data on James.

Robertas Javtokas -- BC Khimki -- Russian League

Robertas signed with BC Khimki this summer.  Khimki is playing in the top EuroLeague for their out of league competition.  Khimki also has former cup-of-coffee Spur and Austin Toro Keith Langford.  Khimki kicks off their EuroLeague season Thursday, October 22nd at 11:00 AM against Real Madrid.

Khimki's Russian season begins this coming Sunday against Spartak St Petersburg.

Why I think Tiago will be in a Spurs uniform next fall

Last summer, our Tiago Splitter outlook was bleak.  The Euro teams were spending money like mad, Splitter was a late first-round pick locked into a very non-competitive salary slot, and Tiago's team was a top-tier Euro team looking to stay at the top.  Then the dam broke.

Many of the Euro teams are not as free with their money this year thanks to a tightening global economy.  Earlier this spring, the 48MoH guys brought to light the fact that the Spurs will not have to pay Tiago Splitter under the rookie pay scale.  Then Splitter's team lost their long-time sponsor Tau Ceramica.  They did get a new sponsor in Caja Laboral, but I don't think those pockets are as deep.  Caja's roster underwent an overhaul this summer and I don't think it was in a spending spree.  I think it may have been more like cost cutting.

Several rotation players left including three starters.  Pablo Prigioni, the starting point guard, went to ACB competitor Real Madrid along with one of the first guys off the bench Sergi Vidal.  Pete Mickeal, starting forward from the University of Cincinnati, went to powerhouse Barcelona.  Igor Rakocevic, the team's best player last year (read this profile on DraftExpress to see how much they lost), went to Turkey and signed with Efes Pilsen.  Fun note:  Igor played briefly in the NBA with the T-Wolves and then was signed briefly by the Spurs.

Who did Caja replace all this talent with?  Not really that much.  Carl English and Stanko Barac.  San Emeterio was on their bench last year. (Or maybe with Valencia.  He's listed as having played on both teams and his name looks familiar.  Either way, he's not a top-tier Euro talent.)  Pau Ribas as their point guard, who played with Ricky Rubio at DKV Joventut last year.

This is a team that has been dominant in European basketball over the last decade.  They have routinely been in the EuroLeague Final Four and have been top team in the ACB.  Last year they made it to the final 8 of the EuroLeague and lost in the finals of the ACB playoffs (after winning the regular season).  Both the EuroLeague and ACB losses were to Barcelona. 

To sum up, Caja lost A LOT.  I'm not sure that they made up for it with the guys they picked up.  I don't believe they are nearly as good as last year and I think they will struggle to get out of the first round of the EuroLeague.  I can't even imagine them staying at the top of the ACB.  This offseason does not suggest to me this is a team is able to stay at the top of European basketball.  Additionally, the top ACB competitors Real Madrid and Barcelona really strenghtened their teams.

And if they aren't a team staying at the top, why would Tiago want to stay?  The pieces are falling into place.  I really believe we'll see Tiago in Silver and Black next year.

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Good info, WVATS. Coincidentally, 48MoH also has a post today on Tiago and Spurnando. I do wonder what’s going to happen with the G.I.S.T. this next year.

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by CapHill on Oct 13, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow. It went up at 9:00. I went to the site to get the link about Tiago’s contract and didn’t even notice. I guess I was focused. It’s a good piece. I think it is interesting that we both look at the roster changes as something to follow.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 13, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pete mickeal is still playing? wow. he’s been around a long time. i think he was on that UC team with our favorite mouthy thug power forward……..

i cant even imagine the spurs depth if they add splitter to their cast of big men. would be cool.

by bones on Oct 13, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Once again, great roundup.

I really like our franchise’s prospects moving forward!

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by tiagocometh on Oct 13, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One of the Commentors(not Vangelis) at 48 mentioned Bourousis – are we treating his declared intentions to sign with the Spurs with skepticism at this point?

9.20.21.24.34
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by Tim C. on Oct 13, 2009 3:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I read it more as a “Who wouldn’t want to play with the Spurs?. Of course, I would want to play with them.” type of thing. Not a “that’s who I’m playing with”. I’m viewing it as politeness. He probably told the Cleveland media “Who wouldn’t want to play with LeBron?” after their game against the Cavs.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 13, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the boxscore wasn’t good for him against Cleveland…I’m not sure why he isn’t starting for Olympiakos if he is as good as he was claimed to be….

by BlaseE on Oct 13, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but they have the Greek Baby Shaq.

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by the little o on Oct 13, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wayne,

I think you’re spot-on about Splitter and his team’s success having a large part in his free agent decision. It’s curious that both Bruno and yourself came to that conclusion apart from one another.

By George, you might be onto something!

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by Timothy Varner on Oct 13, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tim, you should make your sig a link. Like this: < a href=“http://www.48minutesofhell.com/” >48 Minutes of Hell < /a > (without the spaces)

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by LatinD on Oct 13, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe Wayne can change it for him? :)

by silverandblack_davis on Oct 13, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have that much confidence in Tim’s skills?

Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on Oct 13, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Wayne put the URL there to begin with…

9.20.21.24.34
ACLs are like crutches. They’re only for the weaklings who can’t get along without them. -jollyrogerwilco

by Tim C. on Oct 13, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh. Then he sucks.

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by LatinD on Oct 13, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, I got it.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Oct 13, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anybody know how much Tiaggo makes per year at the moment ? I think its about 6 million. Not sure though….

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by alamobro on Oct 13, 2009 4:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that seems high but I’m not sure…

Wiki says:

On May 28, 2008, ESPN Brazil reported that Splitter re-signed on a two-year contract with TAU Cerámica that would keep him in the Spanish League through the 2009-10 NBA season. The contract allowed the Brazilian to make 8 times more than the NBA rookie scale salary cap would have allowed him to make with the San Antonio Spurs.1

8X over rookie scale over a two year contract puts my guess in the $6-7 million per year area minimum.

by BlaseE on Oct 13, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the round up, Wayne, and the positivity on Tiago.

by silverandblack_davis on Oct 13, 2009 7:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yawn + chee-AW-goo = lotsa fun with names!

by Gino20 on Oct 14, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone else really enjoy the name Stanko? Nice last name too.

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5 in 10

by jollyrogerwilco on Oct 14, 2009 4:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Stanko is an awesome name.

If you haven't lived with a squirrel, you haven't lived. - Bob Ross

by Hipuks on Oct 14, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad you already named your pooch!

From under the radar to hanging in the rafters - Big50
5 in 10

by jollyrogerwilco on Oct 14, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talking about that, I think he might be confused because I keep calling him Diggity.

If you haven't lived with a squirrel, you haven't lived. - Bob Ross

by Hipuks on Oct 14, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They can absolutely get used to different names over time and from different people.

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5 in 10

by jollyrogerwilco on Oct 14, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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