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Good defense, Tony!

(Just kidding, he was probably our best player on Sunday).

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Hello again, ladies and germs. I apologize for not having written sooner, but I was in agony last night and could hardly move. My back went out on me around four p.m. and I couldn’t bend down more than an inch or two. I couldn’t run, couldn’t lift anything weighing over a few pounds (which made going to the bathroom difficult HA HA), it was awful. I’ve tweaked it before, but nothing like this. I’m not sure how it even happened. Maybe getting out of the car, where I have to jerk my body to the left, who knows? Maybe it was psychological, because I remember it hurting a lot worse after my boss, Manoli’s mom, told me I should really look for a new job because this one won’t last much longer. Amanda says that even if you know that your physical pain is being caused by stress and that it’s all in your head, and that there’s no actual reason for it in terms of being injured, that realization is in a different part of your brain and thus it doesn’t matter you knowing it’s not real.

I’ve gotten all sorts of advice for my back. Manoli told me to go see a doctor. Many others told me to see a chiropractor. This one customer, crotchety old Doug; pretty much my best friend in the place, whom I lovingly call "The Cauldron of Anger" to his face, said to drink coffee because it’s a muscle relaxer. He also said I should lie on my back and have someone else raise and push my legs as far back as I could stand. Another one, Mike, who is – I shit you not – a two time Olympic gold medalist swimmer, recommended ice packs and a Yoga position called "Child's Pose" which, judging by how he described it to me, looks rather, uh, like something that would happen to me in prison. I tried it anyway last night at home and it made things worse. Maybe I didn’t do it right.[Editor's Note: I looked it up, and yup, didn't do it right.]

What’s helping me most is blessed Aleve, which I learned is the "Official Pain Reliever of the PGA Tour." And those Fancy Nancys have all sorts of back problems. I could eat this stuff like M&Ms right now I tell you. In fact, you know what sounds really wonderful this second? Heroin. Honestly, I’m just as much of a straight edge square as The Engineer, I’ve never done any drug, haven’t even smoked weed, and just the thought of cigarettes disgust me, but dude, I’ve never had a fear of needles and I bet riding the 'H' train sure would hit the spot right about now. I’m not saying I’m going to go out after this and seek out the dragon, but if someone offered it to me gratis? It would be hard to say no.

Thankfully, the stuff isn’t addictive, so I don’t really see what the down side would be.

In the meantime I’ve decided to diet. I’m eliminating red meats, fried foods and diet soda. I’m going to eat more delicious fruits snacks and vegetables and be like my ninja hero, Bruce Bowen.

Oh god, just kill me now.

Speaking of excruciating pain, I had the distinct pleasure of taking in the Spurs-Lakers tilt last Sunday afternoon, as I'm sure, did most of you. The result was predictable and one sided, and anyone who watched our shitfest two days before against the Nets, where Timmeh played out of his mind but few others showed up, should've seen this coming a mile away. The Lakers came in hungry, prepared, motivated, and for the first time all year, fully healthy, as Jordan Farmar, Luke Walton, Lamar Odom and even that annoyingly scrappy Euroslut Sasha Vujacic all played.

We were healthy too, or as healthy as we're gonna be the rest of the year (good for nothing soft Crème brûlée guzzling bastard), so that excuse is out the window. Maybe if we lost to the Nets, we'd have been angrier and more determined to put forth an effort in LA. Or maybe it wouldn't have mattered either way.

Most of SpursTalk has been in a panic since the loss, which is par for the course (second golf reference of the post, in case you're keeping track), but in keeping with my Good Cop role here, I will trot out all the necessary cliches and excuses.

1. You don't need to be the best team in January; you need to be the best team in May and June, and even then, just four of seven times.

2. The Spurs were on the road, in a Sunday West Coast afternoon game, so you knew they weren't going to have their legs. They pretty much just live by the three and die by the three in these types of games.

3. A loss is a loss, by one point or fifty, and all this means is that the Lakers defended their home court and the teams are 1-1 against one another.

4. Pop isn't going to pull out all the stops this early in the season and he probably wanted the guys to lose anyway, to teach them a lesson.

5. We didn't get much of a fair whistle in the game, from what I saw. Check out the free throw disparity.

6. Manu is still recovering from his surgery and isn't fully in form yet.

7. We'll play Bruce Bowen a lot more against Kobe when it counts and he'll be less effective.

8. Timmy will figure out this Bynum kid eventually. And he'll try harder on defense.

9. We'll improve the team with a trade before the playoffs anyway, so this won't be our strongest team.

10. There's still four months time for "The Big One" to hit California and swallow up the Lakers whole.

And now here are my feelings on this list...

1. Mostly agree, though the Celtics were the best team wire-to-wire last season. Also, past Spurs teams, even when they didn't have the best record, had the best, or among the best, scoring differential. So that's troublesome.

2. Strongly agree. I knew their offense would be sluggish and wouldn't be attacking the basket much. But their defense usually keeps them in games like these. Not on Sunday.

3. Absolutely agree. All we gotta do is beat these guys by one point four times in May. I don't care if we get outscored by 100 in the two or three losses we'll have. In the 1960 World Series, the Yankees lost to the Pirates by three, one, three, and one in their four defeats, a total of eight runs. In their three wins, they beat Pittsburgh by 13, 10, and 12, which adds up to 35 runs. If you can have a -27 scoring differential in baseball and win a Series, anything is possible. And yes, I just quoted the despicable Big Ticket.

4. He gave up when they were down 12 points early in the third. What does that tell you?He's playin' possum.

5. The Lakers got the majority of the calls and the breaks, but they were the far more aggressive team going to the basket as well. Kobe gets away with murder though. I think the refs are truly terrified of him, and honestly, I don't blame them. He's the one guy in the league that might flip out and punch a zebra if he got whistled for a crucial late foul in the playoffs.

6. We'll never know the truth on this, but it's important to realize that even last season, when he was mostly healthy and having a career year, Manu struggled mightily against the Lakers, and I'm talking about the regular season, not playoffs. His first game against them in '07-08, where he scored 17 on 6-12 shooting, was alright, but it would be all downhill from there. The second effort, playing without Tim and Tony, was a horror show, perhaps his worst game of the season, and his putridness was pretty much the only reason the Spurs lost, wasting fine efforts from Bruce, Fab and Brent. The next time out vs. LA he shot even worse, as unbelievable as that is, yet might have been the Spurs' most valuable player as his energy and defensive playmaking (a career high eight steals) inspired the team to victory.

The ugly totals for the three games: 14 of 45 (31.1%) from the floor, 43 points (14.3 avg), 11 turnovers (3.67 avg).

What's my point? The fabulous game Manu had on January 14th this season against the Lakers is the exception, not the rule. They seem to defend him very well for the most part. In the first meeting Phil Jackson tried a host of different defenders on Manu and he toasted all of them, particularly Trevor Ariza, before Big Chief Triangle cooled him off in the fourth quarter by sicking Kobe on him. This time out Jackson had Kobe on Manu from the beginning and never gave him a chance to get hot. It didn't help any that Bonner was so ice cold from the perimeter that neither Bynum nor Gasol had to stray from the paint to guard him, and their collective length seemed to bother Manu and he was unwilling to drive on them.

I'm not making excuses for Ginobili. He was crap on Sunday and I'm sure he'd say as much. But both he and Parker set up Bonner and Mason with all kinds of good looks, especially in the second quarter, and their inability to knock down open shots doomed the Spurs. Rocket and Mace hit their shots early in the first meeting and consequently Tony and Manu had a lot more driving room in that game.

The Lakers' athleticism and length inside gives The Big Three trouble, but no defense in the world can take away everything from a Spurs offense that has a 24 second shot clock at its disposal. It's just a matter of picking your poison, and against LA, for us to have a chance Bonner and Mason have to be quite venomous indeed. On Sunday they bit us in the bottom and were probably our two worst players.

7. Obviously agree. The only reason Bowen is on the team anymore is to face Kobe and Pierce or Kobe and LeBron. He doesn't have much of a use against any other teams. As I told Matthew over the phone the other night, "I love Manu, I might love him more than his wife does... (which Powell, didn't think was hyperbole at all, the prick) but even I know he has no prayer of guarding Kobe."

Only one guy on our roster can slow down Bryant, and it's Bruce, who did a commendable job on him in limited minutes on Sunday. Again though, he'll have to keep the Lakers' D honest by knocking down a credible percentage of those corner threes to stay on the floor.

8. Yup, and I'm not even remotely worried about this. Timmy is my last concern. When the games really matter the odds are far more likely that he'll put Bynum in foul trouble than the other way around. Plus that kid still hasn't been tested in the playoffs. Who knows how he'll handle the pressure?

9. I'd like to agree with this, but given the organization's stinginess, I'll believe it when I see it. They blew the Scola thing and wasted their opportunity to draft Paul Millsap, as did everyone else. In a fantasy world they'd get Emeka Okafor for pennies on the dollar for the rights to Mahinmi, Tiago Splitter, future first round picks and whoever the hell else they want outside of TB3, but that's not realistic.

10. Or, as Manoli put it, "Maybe the league will let you play with jetpacks in May. God, your team looks slow."

The truth hurts. As does my back. Now if you excuse me, I'm going to stand up after being in a seated position for over two hours. I'll try not to cry in public.

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Just curious

For my own site, do you request permission on using that photo or do you just credit the AP and the photographer at the bottom?

by Ankle Bones on Jan 27, 2009 4:45 PM CST reply actions  

the latter. And even that, we only started doing a year ago. Ask Powell the rules, he knows them better than me.

by Aaronstampler on Jan 27, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Alright cool that’s what I’ve been doin too. Thanks.

by Ankle Bones on Jan 27, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Manu is worrying me, but still this isnt the first time. We look so phoenix-ish and dallas-ish with manu playing like crap.

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Jan 27, 2009 5:24 PM CST reply actions  

Chasing shadows here with the run down.

Point blank: We don’t have the interior players to compete with the Lakers.

I would strongly advise you not to start pulling “what if” scenarios out of the air as a way of beating the Lakers. What if Manu can’t miss. What if Tim suddenly dominates Gasol and Bynum. Don’t do it. You chasing a ghost.

As a long time fan of the old Run TMC Golden State Warriors, I spent many seasons formulating a way in my head for Hardaway, Mullin and Richmond to unseat Magic and the Lakers. I wasted a lot of hope and time. I would save you that experience. The truth is, height wins championships. You can not Doug Moe or Don Nelson your way to a championship.

You need tall players who can rebound and many of them.

We have no chance (barring injury), to beat the Lakers in a 7 game series. Will not happen.

My rage at Spurs ownership and Pop is at its height. They are taking our final chances with Timmeh, Manu and Tony and throwing it down the toilet. Bastards! It is gut wrenching to watch those cheating, lying, official’s bent over backwards helping them, gang member fan base, arrogant, thuggish, piece of shit Lakers dominate the Spurs.

To top it off, my tank in 08 plan is falling apart. Now all we can hope for is a free agent big man during the off season. Fat chance of that happening though.

In summary,

Thanks Peter Holt. Thanks for not wanting to win anymore. Thanks Pop, thanks for not trying to compete for a championship. BASTARDS!

by Clintons Cigar on Jan 27, 2009 5:36 PM CST reply actions  

Long time no hear. Been meaning to ask you how the prospects are looking.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jan 27, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Good Lord….. and I’M a crotchety cynical pessimist??!

by SgtinManusArmy on Jan 27, 2009 5:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn’t think anyone else was crankier than you, SiMA – boy, was I wrong! I apologize.

Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

by CapHill on Jan 27, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I wasn’t trying to be a prick! I was admiring your ardent admiration for the agile Argentine.

by sungo on Jan 27, 2009 6:11 PM CST reply actions  

Also, WHO THE EFF TOLD YOU YOU COULD SWITCH FONTS?

by sungo on Jan 27, 2009 6:11 PM CST reply actions  

Great recap as usual Stampler… Nice new font, too.

I would try heat pads and stretching excercises for the back. If all else fails, then it’s time to see an accupuncturist.

By the way, what part of the back did you injure? Lower, neck area, what?

I am happy. I am proud. - Manu Ginobili

by bellasa on Jan 27, 2009 7:45 PM CST reply actions  

Lower, and a little left of center. I think from jerking my body to the left getting out of my car. I don’t think it helps my back that my left leg is a half inch longer than my right. It probably messes up my body symmetry.

by Aaronstampler on Jan 27, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m sure you’ve researched, but here’s some info:

http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/sprainsstrains/a/lowback.htm

There’s also a list of stretches (link at the bottom) you can do depending on how badly you’ve hurt yourself.

You should see the doctor… when I hurt my back, Vicodin was the only thing that kept me from crying some days.

I am happy. I am proud. - Manu Ginobili

by bellasa on Jan 27, 2009 8:15 PM CST reply actions  

Tank in 08

Prospects not looking good for late 1st round of the draft. Not for big men. Not even in the euro area. Too bad, cause Thabeet and Griffin could really really help out the Spurs. Texas has huge guy named Dexter Pitman 6-10 and 300 lbs. Might be worth a look if he comes out.

It is freaking cold outside here in SA! I am hoping for an ice or snow day.

by Clintons Cigar on Jan 27, 2009 8:22 PM CST reply actions  

good gawd man, get it together. you can forget about thabeet/griffin. neither of those guys will be around by the 5th pick. never would have been. heck, ohio state has a back-up 7 footer that ESPNers are already predicting as a lottery pick and he is no more ready for the NBA than i am. worry about that sh-t after the season is over.

however, that griffin kid is a beast and will only get better. what about his brother? a not bad big guy who is actually a senior and might be around…….just a thought.

you can also forget about the lottery. Spurs aren’t going anywhere near there.

and while i’m at it, forget about the snow day. here is what it looks like out my window right now. now buck up and get back to work and start dreaming about the parade in late june.

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by bones on Jan 28, 2009 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

the kind of big man the spurs might expect to get is more in the range of jordan hill, from arizona. not saying i like the guy.

by bones on Jan 28, 2009 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

draftexpress has Jordan Hill slotted at #5. I don’t think we can expect him.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jan 28, 2009 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

most likely, the reason your back hurts

is because you’re too fat. at least, that’s why mine used to hurt all the time—an incapacitating, “i think i just shit my pants” kind of agony corkscrewing up your torso. feels like an electric shock, literally. i am slightly less fat than i used to be and no more back pain.

of course, if you have a real chronic back condition, then i pity you.

by wangalusa on Jan 27, 2009 8:37 PM CST reply actions  

um, thank you? Diet started yesterday.

by Aaronstampler on Jan 27, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m not a very big man, but when I did drop 25 or so pounds the back felt way, way better.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jan 27, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

My two cents about lower backs

Aaron, backs are strange and it may be that no two are alike, but mine went out Christmas of ‘07 right before a trip to Colorado for snowboarding, and just when I thought I’d have to spend the whole week in bed because of the pain, one stretch solved everything:

Stand with your feet together and bend down as if to touch your toes, but instead put your hands behind your hamstrings (for leverage) and arch your back (like a cat) and hold it. I find that it’s most effective to stand in front of a wall so you can lean on it a bit, while stretching.

My lower back used to to go out a few times a year, but ever since I started using this stretch (which I only do when I feel “that pain” is about to return) I’ve had no issues.

I hope if works for you, and if it doesn’t, I hope you find some relief soon.

I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili

by J.R. Wilco on Jan 27, 2009 11:20 PM CST reply actions  

man i dont want to get old. i’ve thrown out my back once in high school, and i don’t want to experience it again

What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)

the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post

by Hamer_SpursFan on Jan 27, 2009 11:51 PM CST up reply actions  

a lot of people get back pain because as we age..we become less flexible and our backs can go out by just trying to even pick up a pencil. If you look at animals..as soon they wake up they stretch out their bodies and become limber, that can’t really be said for us as we become adults. (I am unfortunately gulity of this too!)

Just start incorporating some light stretching and overtime your back should be back to normal. Good luck and keep us posted.

by adam8065 on Jan 27, 2009 11:56 PM CST reply actions  

You’re screwed, Stampler

by SgtinManusArmy on Jan 28, 2009 12:10 AM CST up reply actions  

i cant +1 enough to the stretching stuff from adam and JRW. i have had chronic lower back pain myself for years. regular stretching helps immensly when i’m good and helps me get thru the bad more quickly.

many many ways to strecth – i would seriously recoemmned trying out a few things and seeing what works for you.

by bones on Jan 28, 2009 8:23 AM CST up reply actions  

On a completely different note the Bobcats just beat these very same Lakers in Los Angeles while holding Gasol and the Lakers bench in check and surviving a 38 point Kobe night. Larry Brown worked some of his voodoo.

by r21x on Jan 28, 2009 12:41 AM CST reply actions  

Of more shocking news, KOBE FOULED OUT. In the first overtime, but still he actually fouled out of a game.

Note to Pop: Try to get the next game into OT, granted we can keep it close going into the 4th quarter cause we all know what happens if we are down double digits.

"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"

by SinCitySpur on Jan 28, 2009 1:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Since everyone is giving you advice on the back pain..My significant other has a pinched nerve on her shoulder so she has back pain pretty often, and the heat pad is pretty much a lifesaver.
I told her to take Oxycontin and get hooked on it so she could get a gig in a conservative radio show, but she didn’t listen.
Above all else though, go to the doctor man, it’s better to be safe than sorry. Unless you don’t have health insurance, in which case it’s better to be sorry than homeless.

"Long ago there were these two awful towns. Sodom, named after sodomy, and Gomorrah, named after...after an even weirder move"- The Professor Brothers

by Hipuks on Jan 28, 2009 1:47 AM CST reply actions  

Amputate your back. Problem solved.

by sungo on Jan 28, 2009 10:01 AM CST reply actions  

Just dont go to Dr house, he will find you a cancer

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Jan 28, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

It’s always Lupus, Chilai.

by LatinD on Jan 28, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, mixed with linfoma and an infection
Lets do a biopsy

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Jan 28, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Back

Or you could be like me and you’re back will be fine. That’s what I’d do.

As far as the Spurs, I’d like to seem them use Thomas and Alberto to get physical with Gasol and Bynum helping TD and Rocket to be a little more offensive. I think we don’t use those guys enough on good offensive big men. Not that either of them are defensive studs, but they bother enough to throw games out of rhythm…just like Thomas used to do to TD.

by Big50 on Jan 28, 2009 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

Cat/Cow

If you can, try Cat/Cow. It’s a yoga stretch (I think) and it’s called Cat/Cow. I use it all the time when my back gets a little “tweaky,” wakes up the spine if I’ve been sitting in a chair all day and it has the nice by-product of getting your mojo going.

Here’s a vid of the stretch – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LodlEH6TluM
(Be warned: it is a GIRL demonstrating. I kind of dig her dreads.)
Hope you’re feeling better, man.

Allez Spurs!

by JustinBK on Jan 28, 2009 12:51 PM CST reply actions  

I like the fact that we are warned of the GIRL. It can be shocking to see a girl in a video, I hope you handled it well.

by Big50 on Jan 28, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

i do not think i will be productive today at all now. thanks a lot!

who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder? there are some who call me ... tim.

by ptruser on Jan 28, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

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