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Holy crap that was fun!

I hope every NBA fan who has ever thought the Spurs were boring had a chance to watch that game.  It was a beautiful thing to watch.  Of course, the Spurs still want to be boring, they just can't play defense any more.

I have no plans of doing the game justice, so here are just some random thoughts.

 

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Kobe Bryant is not sane.  That man's desire to win is frightening.  If I were the Lakers I would put both Derek Fisher and Trevor Ariza in the witness protection program for the next couple days... give the Mamba some time to cool off. 

That whole "I have big balls" jaunt at the end of the game... not a big fan.  Don't dance around the issue.  Just grab your balls, you know?  It's like saying "freaking."  You don't mean "freaking" and everybody knows it.  Do you think Jeff Van Gundy knows what that little dance means?  Yeah, me neither.

Speaking of Kobe, he did a great job defending Manu down the stretch.  Manu still made some plays, but when Manu is manuing like he was manuing tonight, it takes quite the concerted effort to demanufy him.

Before every PtRer hangs TP in effigy for that 24 second clock violation, it's not like anybody else was open.

Kudos to Pop for leaving Finley where he belongs and having Mason in the game at the end.

Kudos to Derek Fisher for the bad foul.  I always have a spark of hatred for that man.

That play where Manu goes behind the back and cans the 40 footer before the 4th quarter?  That needs to go on his permanent highlight reel.  Quintessential manuever.  OMG GET IT!!!/!?!/?!?!?!!111!

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Damn. I use freaking a lot. I feel bad now.

It’s different for us foreigners, anyway. I never really got the whole measure of “fucking”. I know how it’s viewed, but to me it’s like one of those made-up insults you use when you’re a kid.

See? I told you guys I thought Roger had started doing that big balls move, then sort of thought about it better. For the record, Matthew, I think you’re wrong. They don’t do it because they’re trying to be subtle – they do it because it seems funny (to them), and grabbing your balls isn’t. Curry would agree.

Considering Manu only shot the ball once in the 3rd until the last minute or so, I’m not sure how much it was the Lakers’ D and how much it was the game not passing through him. If you mean deep in the 4th, then yes, they were focusing on him. I still would’ve isolated him at least one, and let him drive.

Timmy was a monster in those last two shots. He won it for us as much as Roger did. I just wish he had defended the post better. Our interior D against superior teams like the Lakers is pretty bad.

TP sucked in the 4th, regardless of that 24 seconds violation TO.

That’s all. Damn, what a good game.

by LatinD on Jan 14, 2009 11:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, maybe you’re right about the players thinking the dance is funny. Grabbing your balls is definitely not funny. Anyhoo, the NBA should fine him, because I don’t think you should be allowed to make gestures regarding your balls… call me old fashioned.

by sungo on Jan 14, 2009 11:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The NBA should have the PtR image suitability test. Mr Old Fashioned

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jan 14, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So ... they should fine Roger Mason for half that amount

For his doing the same thing (albeit half-way) after making the game winning shot?

by Gils_Keloids on Jan 14, 2009 11:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

See?

Creepy. Not funny.

by LatinD on Jan 14, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

dude, he’s just tucking in his jersey

what’s the big deal?

I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili

by jollyrogerwilco on Jan 15, 2009 1:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

besides him tossing his salad

nothing

What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)

the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post

by Hamer_SpursFan on Jan 15, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's lame...

If you have to tell someone you’re cool, then you’re probably not.

You prove you’re a baller by making the big shots and acting like you’ve been there before. Kobe’s clutch, and I know he really enjoys beating us, but that was an asinine move.

I am happy. I am proud. - Manu Ginobili

by bellasa on Jan 15, 2009 12:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

knobe bryant is the best player in this league (by far) and maybe the second best talent of all time. his sometimes lack of class – and sometimes over-intensity is the only thing the seperates him from MJ if you ask me.

i thought he lacked proper composure a couple of times – and guys on his team won’t just sit happily by and take that abuse forever.

i also think someone (like tim or pop) should have ball-punched roger mason after the game for his antics as well – with a stern message of “we don’t do that here.”

by bones on Jan 15, 2009 8:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Matthew… NEVER EVER EVER NEVER EVER watch a soccer game. They do the balls grabbing gesture a lot (and in a less subtle way)

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Jan 15, 2009 1:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But they really mean it. And it’s not meant to imply “boy, I’m so clutch”. It’s more of an all-purpose insult.

But yeah, they even do it when they’re forming the barrier in a free kick. Not that I blame them.

by LatinD on Jan 15, 2009 8:03 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It was Sam Cassell's signature ball manuver they were doing

Cassell has always done that, and i dont know if kobe was showing respect for Cassell or what, but Sam has been doing it for years and years

What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)

the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post

by Hamer_SpursFan on Jan 14, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t say “showing respect”. Kobe was staring at the crowd when he was doing it. It’s juvenile and assinine. Even when Cassell does it.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jan 14, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough

not defending it, i’m just saying it’s not like it was the first time someone has done it. It’s harmless showboating to me

What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)

the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post

by Hamer_SpursFan on Jan 14, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

"....It is more about them than it is about the team. Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can’t do it. I want winners!" - Mike Singletary

by DennardC on Jan 15, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Roger Mason did a half-hearted version of it too after he hit the bucket on which he was fouled

Man, that game was an instant classic.

Kobe was awesome. The Lakers were down 11, he came in at the 7 minute mark and took over.

Ginobili’s three at the third was FANtastic. It think he does a tutorial for that behind the back move over at nikebasketball’s web site.

Ariza didn’t travel on that play, but the Spurs got the rebound anyway, so it doesn’t matter, because I think Manu’s play was too close to call a block on him, so a no-call would have been appropriate.

Ariza didn’t travel, and Fisher didn’t shoot the ball in .4 seconds. So evens right? Just kidding.

Still, great game.

by Gils_Keloids on Jan 14, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, Glis, question: what’s a good Lakers blog? There’s not one in SB Nation.

by LatinD on Jan 14, 2009 11:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The L.A. Times Lakers Blog and Forum Blue and Gold

Are the authoritative blogs for the Lakers.

Before you tell me to go there instead of PtR:

I like SB Nation’s format! And I like to hear the other side.

And it’s always funny to hear the segment of fans who think their fans are the most intelligent, classy fans and pass judgment on the ones who gloat (as opposed to the truth that every fan base runs the gamut of smart guys to idiots).

by Gils_Keloids on Jan 14, 2009 11:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Eh? No, I wasn’t going to say that. I’m asking because we always link to the other teams’ sites in the game previews, and ATS didn’t find any. I’ll remember that for the next game.

Welcome, seriously. You sound articulate and obviously aren’t a troll, so why wouldn’t we want your input? Hell, stay around and get to know us – we’re a spirited bunch.

by LatinD on Jan 14, 2009 11:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Meh. It's different when the opponents win though

I was on here during last year’s playoffs and then people just think you’re gloating if the team you support wins.

But I do like to see what the other side thinks.

by Gils_Keloids on Jan 14, 2009 11:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

seriously, you can stick around

We tend to honor the opponent’s fans if they don’t rub it in — pslaker and a couple of other guys hung out with us during halftime and after the games of last year’s playoffs.

LD is right on, we like to hear the other side, thanks for bringing it over here. It’s easier than having to go look for it. :-)

I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili

by jollyrogerwilco on Jan 15, 2009 1:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LD:

Timmy’s poor post defense is a reflection of playing small and doubling with smaller players instead of bigs. Notice how many minutes KT got last night – 24 and change. Probably his season high. And in the second half, if I’m remembering the game, KT played more and LA got fewer interior baskets (but hit jumpers instead). There were certainly one-on-one situations where Tim got scored on by one of those guys, but stopping a post player with good offensive moves inside of 10 feet is difficult for anyone. Adding more Kurt in the second half seemed to help.

I was impressed with the way Kurt played last night. He hit his jumper, he rebounded, and I thought he defended well on Bynum when he was in there. Gasol is too quick for him, but KT gave me some hope that we can defend big teams again. We only got outrebounded by 1 last night against a team that played 4 guys 6’9" or larger at several points in the game. Maybe if Oberto gets healthy, or that young big guy we supposedly have. What’s his name?

Powell is dead-on. That was the most fun regular season game I have seen in years.

"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley

by spurchief on Jan 15, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes and no. You’re right, it’s not an easy job we ask of Timmy, but regardless he’s just not playing aggressive D. He can’t finish the game with only 1 foul, especially not against the Lakers. LA has two FT liabilities, Bynum and Odom. Instead of giving them dunk after dunk, why not foul them? Or at least contest their shots harder.

I’m loving KT’s jumper right now. Has it ever been that silky smooth?

The latest big regular season win always seems the most fun, but we’ve been some big ones through the years. Hell, beating the Suns in Christmas on the road? That was better to me.

by LatinD on Jan 15, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree about KT – his shot is looking muy sweet right now. and he’s getting good playing time, so i think this bodes well for us down the road.

by znimrod on Jan 16, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Suns on the road at Christmas? Maybe. But we SHOULD beat the Suns. We should beat them every damn time we play them. There should not be a situation where we step on the floor and we consider the possibility of losing to the Suns.

The Lakers on the other hand are a challenge. I hate them, but I respect them, and I would not have been shocked to lose that game, even with them on a segababa and with 3 injuries. Spurs-Suns is a rivalry like a little brother is a “rival” to a big brother. At the end of the day, the big brother balls up his fist and punches the little one in the mouth. Spurs-Lakers is a rivalry because of the respect and the fact that there are championships at stake. Because of that rivalry, this game had more drama to me than any regular season game in many moons.

"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley

by spurchief on Jan 16, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That always, always cracks me up. I’ll see that and raise you a Chinese masseur.

by LatinD on Jan 14, 2009 11:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Oops, meant to reply to Hamer. Sorry.

by LatinD on Jan 14, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

never have seen that one before. cassell seems unimpressed by this man. i guess i’ll stick to the alien pics i see on google.

What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)

the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post

by Hamer_SpursFan on Jan 14, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can remember Cassell doing the maneuver, but it never came across to me as genitally-related (though it’s obvious to me now). Maybe because in the back of my mind I simply hoped he wasn’t capable of procreation. You know, for the good of mankind and whatnot.

by sungo on Jan 14, 2009 11:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

well kind sir

i believe Cassell is perfectly capable of procreating. a lot. all day. don’t stop, won’t stop.

What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)

the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post

by Hamer_SpursFan on Jan 14, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Great Sam pics!

What an incredible game! I was so pissed when Kobe hit that 3 at the end. Walks up and pops it right in. Showboats afterwards. Instead of a fine on Kobe for the ‘balls’, how about a technical foul? That would’ve benefitted the Spurs more. But then Mase may’ve never gotten that pas and hit that crazy shot and he fre-throw…I ramble.
 I actually got to watch the game! My brother kept saying that the Lakers were going to win, and comment everytime the lead would dwindle, until finally, “Oh, looks like I was right.” Meanwhile, I’m sitting there cursing a storm the whole time because “They aaaaaaalways fucking do this! I love them to death, but they teast my patience more than any other team!” But damnit if Mase didn’t come through again in the end! And then his chat with the reporter – class all the way – he even cited some things he was dissapointed with!
Did anyone hear Marc Jackson bitching at then of the game? “That was NOT a walk…” blah blah blah, he says (the man LOVES the Lakers like Eddy Curry loves cheesburgers). Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. Van Gundy atleast said it was a clean block. Either way, Spurs posession, Spurs win.

"It's not how you enter your sport, it's how you exit." - Dr. J
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by dfjmed on Jan 14, 2009 11:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The benefit of living in the west coast, aside from the awesome weather, is that I’m totally watching the ESPN replay tonight at 12pm.

by Hipuks on Jan 14, 2009 11:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

After a game like that, I don’t EVER want to hear about the Spurs being “boring” again. I had one of my Corps buddies watching the game in my room, and I think the Spurs had him screaming more than me!

Three things:

1.) Manu, Kobe, and Timmy are nothing short of SICK down the stretch
2.) I HATE the “defense” SA is playing
3.) Who’s missing Big Shot Rob? Damn, Mace!

"You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas." -Davy Crockett
"Give me an army of West Point graduates, and I'll win a battle. Give me a handful of Texas Aggies, and I'll win a war." -Gen. George S. Patton

by spursfan4ever on Jan 15, 2009 12:43 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

The Spurs execution on offense tonight was incredible (except that stretch in the 4th with the TO’s).

Also, Roger Mason was a helluva pickup. Loved watching this game.

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by HurraKane212 on Jan 15, 2009 12:57 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Go Spurs

Spurs were playing cerebral, controlled and aggressive basketball for 3 quarters and they were controlling the game until the 4th quarter when Manu started turning the ball over and they started playing the clock. I don’t know if this is Pop’s way but they need to be aggressive specially in the 4th. Haven’t they learned anything from game 1 of the conference finals last year? And Parker’s end game decision in this game was awful, giving a pass to Duncan when he could’ve taken the shot and dribbling then penetrating which created a TO instead of moving the ball around. I am beginning to believe in this team and but I still think Duncan needs a big partner down low, and they should maintain intensity for the whole game not just 3 quarters.

by 21td on Jan 15, 2009 8:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

this was the win we had all hoped for. Needed Manu to go off like that and he did. It was barely enough.

thrilled that Raj nailed down another win for us in last second fashion – but would kick him in the ass for his antics after the shot. he gets one free pass, being a spurs rookie and all.

still, this team presents many, many worries for the spurs looking ahead. can’t let gasol get off like that – and we dont really have anyone to check him right now. i actually liked the kobe trap even though that powell kid scorched the nets to bring them back. tip of the cap to the guy hitting when he’s the one we obviously want to shoot.

very surprised that kobe gave up the ball at the end. not like him to do that.

at first, i questioned the travel call on ariza at the end. agreed with van gundy that it should have been a no call. there was contact with manu, but manu was set and the contact was initiated by ariza. after further review, it looked like ariza landed right before the ball left his hands. we may have covered this already, but that was my take after seeing it again this morning.

havent seen our guys playing that aggressive and attacking the basket like that all year. and the spurs were hitting their shots. good to see what happens in a game when the juices get flowing. gotta keep that kind of intensity going for a while now.

while i am preturbed about of poor defense some, you know that our intensity always turns up as the year goes on. great game. great win.

by bones on Jan 15, 2009 9:02 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Longtime Laker fan giving props

Longtime Laker fan here… signed up specifically for this blog. Personally I feel like the Spurs are one of the classiest organizations in the league, and have great respect for the team.

WHAT A GAME! Although many Laker fans were pissed off at the Laker D, honestly, with the amazing ball movement that both teams had, it would have torn up any D, no matter how good (See Lakers Vs Celtics Game 4 Finals, first half). Although this game didn’t have that same intense feel that the Christmas Lakers/Celtics game had, the execution was amazing on both teams (I’m especially wow’d by the Lakers depth now), and this was definitely the best high-quality basketball game of the season.

Although I do disagree with the travelling call, you guys had the rebound anyway so it really didn’t make a difference. However, big ups to Roger Mason Jr, it’s great to see formerly unknown role players explode into a class of clutch shooters.

We’re definitely looking forward to seeing your team in Staples. We need our payback :)

by khw on Jan 15, 2009 10:09 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Another Laker Fan with Props

Hey Spurs fans, great game last night. Like the other Laker fans that have commented here, I have great respect for the Spurs. Our teams have been around the block a couple of times and have won their share of championships as a result, so you’re not gonna hear homerism from me.

Travel call on Ariza? It would not have mattered had Fish played face up defense on Mason. The guy can hit. Typically Fish is a heady player in those situations, but Mason played it to perfection.

On our side, I’d say a 1 point loss in the closing seconds to arguably the hottest team in the west in the past 10 games, while missing 3 key rotation players, and on the second night of a back to back is pretty damn good. I’d consider the Lakers lucky to win had they done so.

Can’t wait til the next time they play, hopefully we get past our injury bug and make it an even better game.

by #4 on Jan 15, 2009 1:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the comments

to #4 and khw. The respect definately goes both ways as our games are usually classics (like tonight). Yall are definately the team to beat and i am going to assume we will see eachother again hopefully in the WCF.

I like to think karma came back onto our side as Fisher seems to always have a hand in defeating the Spurs in close games (.4, i will never recover from that shot).

We will see you all again on the 25th

What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)

the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post

by Hamer_SpursFan on Jan 15, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Manu

It’s interesting to see the talk about Manu. If we’re to believe the press reports, his move to double-team Kobe during the last possession was his own, not dictated by Pop. His logic, and the one the announcers were harping on as well, was: let anyone but Kobe beat us! That is typical Manu … great basketball IQ, but also a major risk taker. Had his man been left completely open for a shot and sank it, some folks on this website who recently dogged him, would be using it as another example of how badly Manu is manuless these days. It’s what you get, for better or worse, from the guy … and why most of here at PtR love the guy.

by agutierrez on Jan 15, 2009 3:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

But it was the right move. We should’ve done it earlier, instead of letting Kobe shoot. If he hadn’t made the clutch shot, we’d be ragging on Mason for his bad D – he was looking sideways to watch out for the screen, and left Kobe open. Bad call.

by LatinD on Jan 15, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So. Anyone watching Denver/Phoenix tonight? I’ll be around writing the preview, and will probably watch it. Also, it’s my last day before leaving for da beach, keiki, so I want to soak up as much interwebbing as possible.

by LatinD on Jan 15, 2009 3:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'll probably check out the 2nd half

I’m looking forward to the Lakers/Magic game tomorrow night. The Cavs-Hornets game tomorrow night is also one I’m looking forward to.

"....It is more about them than it is about the team. Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can’t do it. I want winners!" - Mike Singletary

by DennardC on Jan 15, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll be watching Cleaveland drive my Bulls into the ground tonight, and Denver-Phoenix later. I guess I’d have to pull for the Thuggets.

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by dfjmed on Jan 15, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

anyone check out the interview/video with george gervin on the spurs site today? i cant say it was astounding or anything, but the 70s porn music in the background was classic.

all kidding aside, ice is the man.

by bones on Jan 15, 2009 10:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

33-point quarter

That was a great point that the Iceman made re. his record 33-point quarter that Carmelo tied this season. Ice set the record without the benefit of the three-point shot! That’s insane.

by 4Him on Jan 16, 2009 2:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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