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A very un-Magical game.... Recap Spurs vs. Magic

As usual, I'm a day late with the recap. So here on the eve of The Great Laker Game, I'll go ahead and post this for discussion.

I suspect we will view this game (vs. Magic) very differently based on how the boys fare against the Lakers Wednesday night. If we beat the Lakers, the Magic game will simply be a loss to a team that shot the lights out for one night. If we lose to the Lakers, then this game suddenly becomes Exhibit A (and the Lakers game Exhibit B) in how the Spurs won't win the chip because the Can't Beat Good Teams. And Can't Win the Big Games. In reality - win or lose against the Lakers - I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle. It's January people. No one wins the chip in January. But it can be lost in January. And at 2nd seed in the West, I just don't think that's where we are yet.

Anyway, the Magic game:

1st Quarter:

We started the game with a SWEET pass from Tony to Tim on the pick-and-roll, which got TD a layup. In fact, Timmeh had 6 of our first 8 points and I thought he would roll for 30. Dwight Howard is a major physical presence and is becoming a polished offensive player, but his defense is still suspect. He leaves his man too often, but not to double, just to roam in Richardson-land (named after Jason Richardson for the Christmas Day drift in between two players, but guarding neither). He also leaves his feet a lot for the shot block and when he doesn't get it, it becomes a layup. But everything settled down and the teams traded buckets for much of the quarter.

Two patterns emerged in this quarter that were consistent for much of the game:

1. The refereeing was incredibly, unconscionably inconsistent. Not unfair or unbalanced, but wildly varying based on what part of the floor you were on and which ref was in position to make the call. By the 6:00 minute mark of any game, a player ought to be able to know at that point what will be called and what will not. Into the 4th quarter, I don't think players on either team had a clue when contact would be called and when it wouldn't. If you watched the game, you saw how frustrated and confused the players were in the 4th.

2. The Magic hit a few early 3s and the Spurs missed their early 3s. And then the late ones too.

Highlight of the quarter: Bonner bricks a three that is headed out of bounds baseline. Manu grabs it and as two Magics are harassing him, he drives baseline, then out to the top of the key, but not before a no-look dropoff to Fin, who lays it up over his head facing midcourt. Very nice....

But we were so worried about Howard that we doubled on every touch and our defensive rotations to 3-point shooters SUCKED. So at the end of 1, Magic: 34, Spurs: 28.

2nd Quarter:

Nice start - Mason jumps a passing lane, steals, and passes ahead to a streaking George Hill for a pretty dunk. Albatross can fly when he wants to.

The rotations on the 3-ball improved this quarter, but the Magic kept hitting shots. Tony owned this quarter offensively, but KT played well also. He only had 6 points in the period, but he was incredibly active, he rebounded, and made Howard pay every time he left to double a penetrating guard (basketball is such a phallic game to describe....). The end of the quarter sucked. Tony got a nice layup with 9 seconds left, then we gave up a 3 on the other end from Jameer Nelson with a second left. It looked like there was confusion about who was guarding him and Manu went under a screen, which gave Nelson a wide open look. It was the poop floating in the pool of our otherwise decent first half. Magic: 55, Spurs: 50.

TP had 18 and 6 in the first half. Howard had 13 on 5-7 shooting. The Magic were also 8-11 from 3-land, while the Spurs were 0-3. When was the last time you saw the Spurs only take 3 3-balls in a half? I'm thinking it probably goes back to when Larry Brown was coaching... SA shot 55% in the first half and were losing by 5. Yeah, that percentage is going to last....

3rd Quarter:

This is the quarter that the officiating got under everyone's skin, on both sides, but it seemed to especially affect Tim. He was clearly frustrated on a number of occasions and he looked like he stopped being aggressive for a while because he did not think he would get a call. I'm not one to cry about reffing very often - I tend to be the guy that waves off the call at the playground - but some of the calls in this quarter were pretty ridiculous. But again, the weird calls went both ways and you have to play the game you're given.

Tony continued his hot streak - 5 minutes into the quarter, he was up to 25 points.

It was a frustrating quarter. Every time the Spurs would get a lead of 5 or 6 points, the Magic would sink a three and close the gap. End of the third - Magic: 74, Spurs, 72. Held them to 19 points, but only scored 22. The Magic are 10-15 on 3-balls, and we are 1-6. And Tony has the one. Go figure.

4th Quarter:

I really don't even want to rewatch this quarter, because it pissed me off when I saw it live. But for you, my dear PtR friends, I suck it up and press on. Orlando starts the 4th with 3 straight three point attempts, two of which go in. Both covered pretty well, just good shots. Let's be honest - if Keith Bogans is going to jack up a three at the end of the shot clock, you can live with that, right?

We took the 86-85 lead at the 6:23 mark on a Mason-dog 3-ball (our first and only non-Tony / non-Manu 3 of the night). Tim smoked Howard a few moments later with a pump-fake, up-and-under to tie it at 90. Tony hit a jumper with 4 minutes left to tie it at 92 (for his 31st point ) and that was it. Neither Tony nor Tim scored again. Meanwhile,Nelson hit back-to-back shots (a 3 and a 2) and gave them a 5 point lead and the rest was basically free throws. Tony missed two shots at the end of the game but they weren't bad shots - open floor, on the break, just did not go down. Manu and Fin both had looks at a 3 and nothing would fall in the last 3 minutes of the game. Tough breaks.

Final - Magic: 105, Spurs: 98.

Random Stats / Thoughts:

- Orlando was 63% from 3-point in this game. That's not a typo. 14-22 from the arc. You don't beat many teams that shoot like that. Ever. They were only 22-52 inside the arc. Wow. (Spurs finished 3-13, btw).

- Tim and Manu were -13 and -19 respectively. Let that sink in for a minute....

- Our only plus guys were Fin and Bonner at +3 each and KT at +6.

- Yeah, Tony was a little selfish and shot too much tonight. He was 13-22 and no one else got more than 14 shots (Manu). But if he had not been on, this would have been a blowout in the 3rd quarter.

- The Magic are a team that is built to beat our defensive system. They take a solid big that almost demands a double team and surround him with 4 shooters (if you count Jameer Nelson, which tonight he was, but I'm not a fan). Too many bodies for our guys to cover after a kickout pass from the post if they are hitting outside.

3 Stars:

3. Tim - Because he always goes in here somewhere.  Finished 18-10-5-3.

2. <vacant, apply within>

1. Tony - For all the crap he takes, I still take him over Jameer Nelson and all but about 3 other point guards in the league. Especially as long as Pop and Tim are around to keep him straight.

Final Thoughts:

I think this was just one of those games. The other team could not miss, SA could not hit a 3, and the weird officiating took the guys out of their game for part of the 4th quarter. It would be easy to look at this and say that the Spurs can't beat a good team at home, but a team shooting 14-22 from 3 is just ridiculous. Some of the defense could have been better, but it was not horrible either. Just one of those nights. We'll see how it all looks after Wednesday night.

I'll go on record now in predicting a Spur win against LA. They are playing on 2 days rest, they'll have a bad taste in their mouths from this game, and it's at home. SiMA, does that screw with mojo? I don't know all of the mojo rules.....

 

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One thing I forgot to include in my recap: what the hell happened in here while I was gone? I missed 4 days of checking out PtR and we have a Clipper game thread with 1200 comments? Don’t you people have jobs?

"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley

by spurchief on Jan 14, 2009 12:31 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

We have priorities.

by LatinD on Jan 14, 2009 8:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Very good recap.Concise and to the point. You’re the Ernest Hemingway to our pic heavy Proust.
I would also like to note that after shooting 14-22 on threes against us, they proceeded to shoot 23-37 on threes against the Kings. Yes, they made 23 three pointers, an NBA record.
Imagine if Dwight Howard could defend and make points on other than dunks.

by Hipuks on Jan 14, 2009 2:51 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Did you just compare me to Proust? Eh, wouldn’t be the first time someone called me gay. Anyway, in case Matthew didn’t discuss it with anyone, I guess I should make it known that I plan on posting game recaps on PtR for the odd numbered games (such as the Lakers game) and SpursDynasty on the even numbered games, same as last year.

Hopefully this won’t stop on anyone toes, but if it does, I dunno, I guess take it up with Matthew or something.

by Aaronstampler on Jan 14, 2009 4:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh whoops, it wasn’t me you were talking about. Sorry.

by Aaronstampler on Jan 14, 2009 4:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

For the record, I was not referring to anyone in particular really. Just the whole of PTR. We really love pics here.

by Hipuks on Jan 14, 2009 5:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The more recaps the better, right? ’Sides, many games were left undone when no one wanted to pick them up.

Like the Grizzlies’. Who wants to recap the Grizzlies?

by LatinD on Jan 14, 2009 8:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Literary analogy? It’s ’em Argentine smarts!

by LatinD on Jan 14, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think that’s a compliment. But didn’t Hemingway drink himself into a stupor and commit suicide with a shotgun?

"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley

by spurchief on Jan 14, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, liked the recap a lot, spurchief. Very thorough. You made me relive this game – never mind that I’m doing my best to forget about it completely. Next I’ll try hypnosis or something.

I kind of agree about Tony, but Stampler had a point about that play in which he shot that stupid two instead of passing it to Manu. Also, that last layup was pitiful. Wasn’t he stuffed by the rim?

Did you hear that the Magic made an NBA-record 23 3s last night? Those boys are on fire.

by LatinD on Jan 14, 2009 8:51 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I wasn’t crazy about either of Tony’s shots at the end of the game, but it’s hard to argue with him shooting them. He had been hitting everything in the second half and was the only consistent scorer we had for the whole game. If you think Tony is going to not look for his shot in the open floor on a game where he is already 13-20 from the floor, you just haven’t watched Tony enough.

I think that was a double negative or some other nonsensical rule of English, but you get my drift. Both shots were in open floor situations and everyone in the gym knew he was taking both of them. On the second one, I think it got over the front of the rim. He got the ball on a long pass from Manu that he had to reach for and it looked like he thought he was closer to the basket than he was. In short (not that this or the recap was short), you can be upset with TP for those two bad shots, but he’s the only reason that game was even close. He carried the team for huge stretches of the 3rd quarter.

Tim also short-armed a jump hook he’s made about a thousand times and Fin and Manu missed wide open 3s near the end as well. I think Fin’s might have been an airball. No one could hit a thing after the 3 minute mark of the 4th.

"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley

by spurchief on Jan 14, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tony will be what he is, but I reserve the right to get mad at particularly selfish plays, no matter how much we saw them coming. :)

by LatinD on Jan 14, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what he is is a badass.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jan 14, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was a wonderbutt, now it’s bad?

… I’m confused.

I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili

by jollyrogerwilco on Jan 15, 2009 1:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Looking back I dont feel that bad for the magic game. After all, even if they are that good from 3 (as the game at sacramento demonstrated) still we only made 3 of our own, which is a rare sight these days. We lost by 6, so we were two 3 pointers away from a tie game. Still miles away from panic button.

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Jan 14, 2009 11:45 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Recap

Good, solid recap. Several additional points and a question to PtR’s experts. First, like Chilai, I don’t feel too bad about the game. We are clearly not at the top of our game, Orlando is, and we hung in there and could easily have won. Second, I think this loss is on Pop. While Howard is a force, he’s not that dominant on offense to merit a double team … with the concomitant open three-shooters that resulted. And Pop never adjusted. Third, Bonner gave us nothing, as he didn’t in the first match-up with these guys. We should learn. Which brings up the question: I am not by any means a student of basketball, so I ask this question of PtR readers who are. Why do most teams (and certainly the Spurs) seem to always start the same players no matter who they are playing? It would seem almost self-evident that different teams, with different strengths, strategies and tactics, would dictate different approaches (i.e., players). For example, Orlando has one dominant big man with lots of 3-point shooters around him. LA has two big men, one outside shooter (Fisher), a ball hog scorer, and an odd man who is inconsistent at best. And on and on. Yet we play the same line up. Wouldn’t it make more sense to change your starting five to exploit match-up particular to every team? So why is that so obvious to this layperson but not to the coaches? Explain please.

by agutierrez on Jan 14, 2009 2:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

the short answer is this: you don’t adjust team by team in the regular season. you play your own game. I think Pop does adjust minutes as a game progresses based on matchups, but, in general, he wants to play his own system.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jan 14, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The thought being- “Let others adjust to US.” And it’s worked well thus far, of course having Timmy on the roster helps. RoHo used to brag to the media that we were/are a chameleon, able to adapt and change for any style playing us while not varying from our own plan (lineup, goals) either. I support this ideal; start changing dramatically to correspond to those around you instead of setting the standard yourselves and you’re doomed to fail. Ask phoenix.

by SgtinManusArmy on Jan 14, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Pop usually does a pretty good job of this. There are games (like Orlando for instance) where you’ll see KT or Oberto on the floor more than in others. I suspect you’ll see both of them at times tonight covering Gasol or Bynum. In those cases, Bonner or Mason or Finley get fewer minutes.

Being a starter is such an ego thing in the NBA. The Pistons are all out of whack right now because they are going to ask either Rip or AI to come off the bench that most coaches don’t like to mess around with starting lineups and early game minute rotations. Once a guy becomes a starter, he has to play pretty badly to get yanked for a game.

Unless you are Manu Ginobli.

"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley

by spurchief on Jan 14, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I have a potential solution

We seem to be lacking 3pt consistency. Here’s my take.

by Jaceman on Jan 14, 2009 2:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wrong. We dont have problems from three land. We dont need Mike MIller or any other 3 point especialist. A good big could be useful.

"It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what."

by Chilai on Jan 14, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+ 1 – we have two of the top 3 shooters in the league (Mace, Bonner). We need a banger.

"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley

by spurchief on Jan 14, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, Manu is already in his 6th man role…

by LatinD on Jan 14, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Another great one, chief. Solid takes and good analysis. I always enjoy what you bring. Thanks again for stepping up and writing the recap.

by SgtinManusArmy on Jan 14, 2009 2:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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