Summer League: Game Thread #5 (8:00 start)
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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PrintOn we go in to the great wide open. Errrr, um off to Salt Lake City I mean.
You know the drill. Donate here. If you don't know the drill, then Donate here.
I don't have high hopes for these games being available on the internet. Nothing at the Rocky Mountain Revue site is giving me a warm fuzzy.
UPDATE: Happy day. If you go to the link to the revue buried in the top middle of the site is a 'watch live' button. You can get the feed there.
If they aren't "televised" then the blog-a-dork-a-thon will get interesting. I'll have to be extra creative.
For tonight, I already had plans for an activity during the game. SiMA is going to interview me. I know, not very exciting but it's something. He's on his own for questions. I placed no boundaries on what he could ask. ONLY SiMA gets to ask questions. At least, I won't answer other questions. I can't keep anybody from posting.
I'm going for a format where he can dig deeper into answers that I give. Maybe it will be interesting. Maybe it will suck. I do know this though. It won't suck worse than last night's game.
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tonite’s show – getting to know your Aus Tech Spur…..that be an interesting read, but i’ll probably have to catch up on it tomorrow morning…..........speaking of, i gotta catch up on my summer league archived feeds – but i did watch the knicks game on NBA-TV and gotta agree with all the stuff you mentioned about nate robinson and whatever offense they were trying to run. holy smokes. they had half their team out there and still got whipped because the spurs team just D-ed them up. i felt bad for them.
on a semi-related note: you also mentioned the errors permeating the summer league rosters and such. dear god, you should try watching NBA TV announcer Rick Kamla for about 15 seconds. in that length of time you will get 2-3 mis-pronunciations. I realize the guys in Summer League are not marquee names, but for god sakes man, do just a smidge of homework….or at least listen to the PA announcer and check yourself out.
dude is brutal.
also trying to like George Hill, but I’m not sold yet. He has the look and he has the handle, but he needs some work. i realize that he is also making the adjustment from scorer/handler to just handler. might take him a bit.
Gist (or jist as the knicks roadcaster says it) is a banger. i’m starting to like him as well. not feeling the same about malik hairston. he doesnt look to be NBA ready.
tolliver and roger friggin powell look good….cannot believe that pud from illinois roger powell figured out how to shoot…....
perhaps the thing that George Hill is missing...
is the ability to heretofore put the ball IN the basket, and not AROUND the basket….
"I like to use my pump fake to make them come hard, that's when I use my penetration." -Manu Ginobili
by Justin Biehle on Jul 18, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
this is going to sound awful, but who’s Sima again?
Also, I gotta work tonight, so no blogging for me. I will be with you all in spirit and hopefully George Hill will boost his .080 shooting percentage. Am I crazy to think as a fat short white guy I could shoot better than .080 in summer league? I mean, I play twice a week so I have a general idea of what shots I’m capable and not capable of making and I’d pretty much just take open threes. I think I can knock down 15% of those from NBA range.
SiMA => SergeantInManusArmy
George is really struggling with when to shoot. So, in that sense you would have the advantage on him. Just for the record, I am fairly certain the ability to shoot a basketball is ethnically neutral. It might even be height and gender neutral, but I’m not sure.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
btw, you are lucky you didn’t say “looks like somebody has a case of the Mondays” because I believe you would get your ass kicked.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
fun times be ahead...
I’m hoping we get some serious Zapreuter Film type dirt on you
"I like to use my pump fake to make them come hard, that's when I use my penetration." -Manu Ginobili
did you know....
that showering twice daily can actually be bad for your body, as it prevents said body from reforming skin cells. You’re effectively skinning yourself alive. Fucking gnarly…
"I like to use my pump fake to make them come hard, that's when I use my penetration." -Manu Ginobili
by Justin Biehle on Jul 18, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
between drawing and learning useless facts...
my college years were well spent…
"I like to use my pump fake to make them come hard, that's when I use my penetration." -Manu Ginobili
by Justin Biehle on Jul 18, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Clearly, your sorry ass spent too much time in College Station at the Chicken.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s interesting. I want to know how it actually ‘prevents’ your body from reforming skin cells though, that sounds crazy. Like a CMoney video or something.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
well...here's the heavy dope...
during a day, your body will shed the dead skin cells (they rub off on your clothes, in the shower, etc.) and will grow new ones, much like blood cells and shit. When you take multiple showers, the scrubbing will damage the newly forming skin cells before theyre good to go. The effect is roughly the same as being out in the sun too long, and drying them out.
"I like to use my pump fake to make them come hard, that's when I use my penetration." -Manu Ginobili
by Justin Biehle on Jul 18, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
on a side note...
Brian Setzer is like, the coolest dude ever. I just got tickets for his Xmas show in Austin in December…
"I like to use my pump fake to make them come hard, that's when I use my penetration." -Manu Ginobili
by Justin Biehle on Jul 18, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn’t realize you live in Austin. Or I forgot. Whichever. I haven’t seen Setzer but I have never heard anything but good things about him.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm. Interesting. My shower tonight is going to be thrilling now.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice. The game camera has a tasty test pattern up.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions
The goal tonight is 4 donations. Four $2 donations. I don’t even care if it is the same person. As a matter of fact, if the same person said they donated $2 every quarter in the thread, but really only donated once then I’ll still count it. This is YOUR opportunity to earn serious undeserved brownie points. I know the married men in the house will be jumping on this.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions
The test pattern is now a close-up of Boozer. Kind of creepy.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions
Waiting on you SiMA. Fair warning: I have had a little wine and I’m feeling a little frisky.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions
I’m here. Just got out of the shower. All of scrap’s shower talk made me long for a little hydro-skinning myself. Can’t figure out how to get the feed though. I don’t see a ‘watch now’ link.
And that ‘feeling a little frisky’ comment sounded more like a threat than a warning. I’m starting to reconsider this Q&A.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s in the top middle of this page:
It says ‘Watch Live’ and it is a television with rabbit ears. I think the internet might be new in Utah.
Yeah, threat-warning whatever.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh oh. It’s gonna be a long night. ATS is drinking again.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Freakin awesome. Great Friday afternoon. I love Colorado. Not the people, the history, the food, the drivers, the costs….. but the state is gorgeous and I didn’t drown, so that’s always nice.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I’ll be here, but just lurking. Baseball Mogul 2009 is just too fun.
www.sportzchat.com
by Linix129 on Jul 18, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions
It looks like the Utah roster, that’s who we play tonight, has some bigs for Ian to contend with.
Fesenko, Koufos, Lyde. Those are some big bodies.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions
Before tip-off, check out the Jazz Dancers. (I refuse to call them the “Nu-Skin Dancers,” because that’s just retarded.) Nice things in Utah.
The interesting thing is that they don’t look skanky. I like my dancers to look skankier. Like the Toros dancers.
Nu-Skin Dancers is not only retarded, it’s creepy and repugnant.
I also think it is interesting that they are completely clothed. Very un-NBA-ish.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t know. I’m hearing an announcer and looking at some footage. Sounds like you need to call the Geek Squad.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Surprise, surprise. The Utah announcers think Deron Williams is the best point guard in the NBA.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions
Well, that’s a shitburger. Ron Boone’s wife died. She was like 52 or something. Fucking crazy.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply actions
My video feed is very choppy. Maybe yours is just to slow.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions
It’s not letting me cut and paste the link into WM. I’m really angry right about now.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I can’t tell you how excited I am to be playing the Utah Jazz in Utah on the first night of the Rocky Mountain Revue. It’s really quite the honor. I just hope we play well and aren’t overwhelmed by the environment.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions
Deron Williams, at least I think it is him, is holding what looks like a 1 month old kid. The man is big. And his wife is hot. Hot in a good way. Not hot in a ho way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions
Tatum, #1 for the Spurs, is practicing pull-up 2’s from just in side the arc. He dribbles, jukes, then launches. He either just made 10 straight or air-balled 10 straight. I’m going with the former.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions
Hilarious. For the intro they had a line “so pour a cold drink” and they showed somebody putting the juice on a sno-cone.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions
Craig Bolerjack and Hot Rod Hundley are our announcers. Craig looks like an ass. He’d probably try to sell you something you own.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions
Hey, they are tipping off now from the “Lifetime Activities Center”. Woo-hoo!
Yeah, I thought that was funny too. The guys are talking like they aren’t on.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions
We have: Ian, Gist, Hill, Green, Powell
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions
Shit. George almost made a shot. It rimmed out, but he was fouled. I don’t think Stampler would have made it.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions
Warning: The feed sucks tonight.
Yeah, I’m getting sound but really choppy video.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions
late...
...to the party. Have I missed anything?
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Shitty video, shitty audio, a Deron Williams love-fest. You’re caught up.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Just waiting on SiMA. Same old, same old.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep. we are all watching the same thing.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply actions
Who made a basket for us? Was it George? I was getting more wine.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply actions
At least there are announcers so we can actually tell who is doing what. And when the video is working, it’s clearer than the LV feed. Right now, of course, I’m staring at a clear picture of Deron Williams’ profile.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
I was there for awhile too. Just close and reopen the link, mine’s working now.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
that seemed to work for now – thanks
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Occasionally when it freezes up, just hit stop for a second then play again.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to keep hitting stop and play.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
fire ants in the pants. Let’s roll.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Deron Williams. He’s the kind of guy that I could hang out with.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions
Well, I think I will like the Powell signing. Everything I have read points to the type of guy that fits in well. Hits the open three, good effort, good shot selection, etc.
Other than that, I approve of the fact that we haven’t signed Horry. Hill I don’t know about. And I don’t think we will be able to judge it for a while.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
You will be singing his praises soon, trust me. He’s legit.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Air ball from George. I don’t think Stampler could have done that though.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:21 PM CDT reply actions
Nothing in this offseason has been bad yet. But it’s not over. I’m not surprised that we didn’t sign Brent Barry. I don’t think Pop ever really trusted him after the 2006 series against the Mavs.
With Mason being our only signing there isn’t a log to judge. Shoot, very few guys throughout the league have signed. There was a lot of media activity with Baron and Brand but then it got real quiet.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:24 PM CDT reply actions
I think there is a lot left to the free agent season.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
NICE dunk by Gist. Two steps from the 3 point line.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions
My feed cut when Deron was talking about the toughest players for him to guard. Please tell me he said TP. He’d be a douche not to, TP runs circles around him.
I couldn’t hear what he said iether.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
His first response was “shooosh, so many guys are hard to cover”.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I would say I got tired of Kevin Garnett in about 2002.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Wasn’t that about when we were beating them in the first round?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Good call on being worried about RMR, btw.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, they are on dial-up out there in Utah. It’s a beautiful state though.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Eva too short to be "hot?" Is she, in her sprite-like state, actually just "really, really good-looking?"
Short and hot are two totally unrelated qualities in my book.
Some time during the season Stampler had an article with a picture of her in it. It was smokin’. I just sat there staring at it. It was so bad that I was hiding me infatuation with the photo from her.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
She’s adorable, no doubt. I just often wonder if you can be simultaneously 4’3” and “hot.” Pictures put her next to smaller things, like miniature trees, just to put her in proportion.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s the long slow arch of Foucault’s pendulum. They are going to win 20 straight titles from 2120-2140.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, and then Hot Rod Hundley to both of them
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Then the audio cut out as Deron was saying “you need a bench” and it came out “you need a bitch”.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t think Tony has the balls to argue with her.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
You think Tony just waves the customery white French flag everytime things heat up?
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I think things don’t even heat up. He’s married to an older woman. He just does what she says. Guaranteed.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s probably in a lot in Grand Junction and you won’t be able to get it home.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it is solid. It doesn’t excite so that I run out and buy League Pass. But that’s not what I expect either. I think it is a sad aspect of the offseason that a lot of teams try to sell tickets and do really stupid shit doing it. Say, um, Baron Davis.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Shaq was all about selling tickets.
Baron was going to get the Clippers into the playoffs even with Brand. It’s the one thing I’m glad our FO has been good enough, and lucky enough with Jason Kidd, to stay away from.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Might want to just sit the next play out, Champ.
You’re already drunk.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Better fit for the SPURS- JR Smith, Azubuike or Roger Mason? Why?
(I’m putting all future questions there, btw. Easier to see and follow and seperate from my normal asinine banter.)
It seemed like things were slowing down. That’s all. I’m manic.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
The…..only…...slow…...thi…..is this…......................(buffering)...............feed.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
True. I’m used to it.
It’s in a good rhythm now.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I can’t honestly answer that because I don’t know much about any of these guys. I really only watch the Spurs. So I only know about the games guys play against the Spurs.
Smith is a madjacker. I think he would have the hardest time playing for Pop.
Azubuike and Mason I haven’t watched at all.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions
His shooting percentage is now up to .098%
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I predict that he shoots better during the regular season than in the summer league.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Hard to do worse and not be sent to the Toros
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
I’m telling you guys right now…...”Your starting point guard for the All D-League Fourth Team…....Geeeeoooorge Hiiilllllll!”
Get ready for it.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Hot damn, George made a shot. Woo-hoo!
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions
Scissors. That’s what I’m thinking. You can stab yourself in the eye or the brain. Running by the pool is only dangerous if you are unsupervised. You conk your head as a kid all the time. You just need somebody to pull you out of the water. Pull the scissors out of your eye doens’t make you ok.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Got to be the pool...
you hear about kids drowning all the time, but when was the last time you heard of a kid dying from impaling himself with safety scissors?
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
Hey, I got an idea. How about you stop blowing DWill for just a second, and ….... CALL THE FREAKIN GAME!!
Although I would pay to actually hear YOU call the game instead of these jackasses, I was referring to said jackasses. I’m assuming you’re not blowing DWill right now as well.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m thinking you are taking the fifth.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Although, since I don’t have a video feed, I wouldn’t mind if these guys would, you know, describe the action on the court.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
Did you guys here that “Yaun Mahimmi from France”... good grief
"I'm comfortable with winning" - Manu Ginobili
I think that’s how you pronounce it.
btw, do we have any donations yet?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoa. Those are some bad pictures of our announcers.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions
Wow. They only get 8 fouls in the Rocky Mountain Revue. Orlando was unlimited. Vegas was 10. Utah is 8.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions
Serena is a woman. A very, very hot woman. The other one doesn’t interest me.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
She’s an amalgam of Rajon Rondo shoulders, and David Robinson’s biceps, with J-Lo’s butt and humongous, um, talent.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
She’s the kind of woman that can open a can of whup ass on you. In a good way.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
She’s the kind of woman that just polished off not only the whole can of whup ass, but the whole case just by herself.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
You can’t. A blog is chronologically based. You would have to keep re-posting it. I was very sad to see the PtR map disappear because I knew a lot of regulars never saw it. The quotes page, along with Stampler’s nickname page, would be great reference type pages to always have available. The PtR format just doesn’t support that.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
We should contact those SB Nation guys and propose that. I’m the same way, that PtR map post was great and should be part of our bio.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m thinking Morris Almond is a macadamia nut guy.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I won’t miss Brent Barry at all. I think he was a good guy and a decent player. But, I won’t miss him. IMO, he just wasn’t that good. He didn’t take care of the ball well enough to be the point guard. He couldn’t play defense. He was purely a spot up shooter with nothing else to his game.
Harsh, I know. But that’s how I felt about him. I know other, especially bones, really like him. But that’s what I think.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you. I like him personally, but he brought as much to the team skill-wise as Asst. Coach Newman.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone see Curious George’s move just then? My video died but I heard them talk about it.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Are you saying he is up to 1%? I think he might be up to 11 or 12%
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
My budding hatred for George Mason is simply shining through, I apologize.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
You’ll come around. George Mason Roger Hill will be fine.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Curious George’s move was pretty awesome. I found if I press stop and then play I can get video for a couple of minutes.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
Anytime a player says “Championship in the next 2 or 3 years,” go ahead and write him off. Loser. Think like a champion, bitch. Actually don’t, just keep thinking like a Jazz player.
No, that was just typical asinine cynical SiMA babbling.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
If you guys picked up a mute hitchhiker...
... and the hitchhiker had a book, and you looked at the book as he slept, and in that book it began describing the Spurs’ season, would you read to the end to find out if they won the title?
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
Does the book refer at any point to the “Los Spurs?” As soon as I got to that point, I would light the book on fire. Then dropkick the hitchhiker in the nads.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
What if you were to read the words “Robert Horry getting significant minutes for the Spurs this season?” Would you dropkick yourself in the nads?
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
I would become a WNBA fan.
Actually, I WILL become a WNBA fan if RoHo gets any minutes for the SPURS this season.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you more drunk than ATS is right now?
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
I can't possibly know that....
unless it was written in the book that the mute hitchhiker sleeping in my guest room has. Hold on, let me check…
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
All kidding aside, CMoney's movie was badass
I don’t want him to think I’m making fun of it if he happens to read this. I was seriously, for real freaked out for a second by his and his buddy’s movie.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
spurchief, you did see CMoney’s video right?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I would only read to the end if in the middle somewhere one of two things happened: 1) SiMA shot himself in the dick on a dare. 2) Stampler and Powell both wrote stories that praised the greatness of the Spurs organization.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Shit, I just lost my response. Coming soon.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Manu is going to be interesting. His contract ends after ‘10 and I don’t know if the Spurs will sign him for big money at the age of 33. I see the Spurs trying to sign him to a 3 year deal at round 6-7 mill. If they do, then I think they would go after somebody in the 10-12 range.
But, that all assumes that the economics of the NBA stays the same. That might not happen. The NBA hasn’t felt the budget crunch from energy prices that we are feeling. I think the cap will go down. I think the dollar will get weaker. The implications to the NBA will be interesting.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I just swallowed my tongue. I don’t even want to think about that subject again, forget I asked this.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
How about Lenny Kravitz's remake of American Woman?
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
lol
That, or “Peanut Butter Jelly Time”
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Then there is the classic shitty song by which all shitty songs are measured. MacArthur Park.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, there are a lot of shittier songs. Most anything by Coldplay, Mike and the Mechanics, etc.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow. Mike and the Mechanics. That’s old school shitty.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
In the Living Years was nice, but that’s about it. Screw you guys if you don’t agree, that song makes me happy.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
everybody has their weaknesses. I like plenty of shitty songs.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
The other one in my book of old school shitty is the Spin Doctors.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Who is the 2000’s version of Air Supply?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually enjoyed the Spin Doctors. They are touring right now with Blues Traveler. In fact, I think they are at Stubbs in a few weeks.
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Yuck. Go see somebody else at Stubb’s. Or the Heartless Bastards at the Continental Club.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Now you’re pissing me off. Their Two Princes album was good. GREAT percussion.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
You know that anybody that says, “GREAT percussion” when talking about a soft pop band is either queer or retarded or in Colorado.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
Listen to the drums, trust me. Their drummer is skilled.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Pop values basketball talent. Basketball talent is a LOT different than athletic. Dunking is not a basketball talent. Hitting a jumper is. Being able to dribble is. Being able to box out is. I think Pop values those things.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you saying you value chemistry over talent?
He definitely values chemistry over talent, and frankly, I agree with that, as long as the differential isn’t ridiculous. Look at the results of this year’s Spurs: they made the WCF, beating a more talented Hornets team, and were very close against a more talented Lakers team.
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I value a healthy mix/balance. I often get the feeling that Pop is completely focused on chemistry alone, that’s where that came from.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Somebody commented on my comment that Nate Robinson was a no-talent ass-clown that we won the dunk contest so he must be a talented ass-clown.
I’m saying dunking, jumping, and speed are not basketball talents. They just AREN’T the same thing. There is athleticism, there is talent, and there is experience.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with you. I’ve never been big on dunking either, but I think Pop is at the far end of the spectrum. I think dunking is a small example of athletisicm, which is not often a word linked with Pop’s SPURS.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Here’s my idea: for every year the player sits out, the amount of their rookie scale increases, until after three years, at which point you can pay them whatever you want.
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I think the league is screwed. Splitter is making like 8 times what he would make as a rookie with the Spurs. What they don’t report is that he’s making as much as the #1 pick in the draft. Think about that.
The NBA has kind of screwed themselves with the rookie slotting of contracts now that the Euros have money and the dollar is weak.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s tough, but great players want to test themselves in the NBA, so I think the best will always want to come over. Besides, it’s a vast improvement over the NFL, where Ryan Leaf can make a bajillion dollars more than 10 year vets.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
true dat
but there has to be a middle ground somewhere to address these uppity furriners. And I keep telling you guys, it won’t be long before the next Lebron goes overseas to play for Tau Ceramica and never comes back.
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The one that just missed the layup.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s an NBA skill too. See: Horry, Robert or Vaughn, Jacque or Finley, Michael.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Findog only missed jumpers. The others missed layups.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Good call. Yeah, it’s hard to drive in for a layup when you’re 7x slower than your defender.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
you stole my joke!
I have a soft spot for 3/4 combo guys who rebound like their hair is on fire, like Carl Landry, Paul Millsap, Leon Powe, Malik from back in the day… I hope Gist can turn into that guy.
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Honestly, there isn’t anybody. I just don’t look at anybody we could realistically get and think “Hey, that’s the guy!”
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Gerald Wallace for me – love his game and his tenacity. He just plays like a guy Pop would like. Plus, he’s athletic and can score.
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But when he turns 35 AND doesn’t command the same money, we’ll be on top of that.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, George Hill made another shot. SiMA, what’s his shooting % up to?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions
Grandma talking about her son ‘reaching his dream’ of playing with the Jazz. Grandma? You’d better ready yourself for long-distance phone calls to a grandson who will soon have to go overseas just to get on a basketball court.
He's a first round pick, right?
That means a guaranteed contract. He’s already been “embraced by the Greek community” according to grandma. Opa!
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Wait for that contract to expire. Just wait.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I think they are interviewing Hot Rod Hundley’s wives?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions
I was going to make the joke that they were Jerry Sloan’s wives, but his wife Bobbie died a couple years ago. That’s crazy shit. I hate it.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I hated it. I was an old school Spurs fan from back in the day. I liked Black and White.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Bring in the hitchhiker from CMoney’s movie.
Or, more realistically, less music during actual game play, less vigilance from the ushers, less goofiness from the Coyote. Maybe bring back the “Cotton Eye Joe” song they used to play back at the Hemisfair.
Or they could coat all the ceilings with asbestos, like in the old Hemisfair. That would surely intimidate me.
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Great question.
1. Build some bars and restaurants around the place. People have to make a night of it. Going to a Spurs game should be special.
2. I really, really, really fucking hate all the pumped in noise. Attending a game is so obnoxious. Too many of the fans see the timeouts as the time to enjoy. That’s wrong. No timeout shows. Get the fans focused on teh game.
3. They need to have good fan appreciation nights. Like ‘Dart Night’ where they give the first 10000 fans darts. Or Jarts night would be even better. I’m even thinking they could do “hairy back night”.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
You’re not “thinking,” you’re “hoping” that they could do ‘Hairy Back Night.’
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that Ty Corbin coaching the Jazz team?
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Tough call. it depends on what kind of fanny pack and the situation. I wear a fanny-type pack to ACLFest every year. But guys who wear fanny packs just every day deserve a punishment.
But I can’t think of anything appropriate right now.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
You answered my question/fears in the second sentence.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Matt Harpring Summer Basketball Camp
“Drive hard to the hole and slam into everyone. Then, slap the guy with the ball silly and hope the ref doesn’t see you. If he does, yell at him and get T’d up and then pout. Thanks for coming.”
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Now that you mention it, I’d love Matt Harpring for the Spurs. Then people would really hate us.
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Spurchief, are you from Austin as well? I noticed you talking about Stubb's.
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I live in Abilene, but I grew up just outside of Austin and I have a sister who lives there. We are there once a month or so. And for good concerts (which don’t ever come to Abilene).
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Abilene. The best thing about Abilene is that there is a Starbuck’s there when we drive to Santa Fe.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s actually a great little town, except for all of the $#@#%^ Mavs fans.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
I have a thing about flat places. It seems ok. I’ve only ever driven through.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Abilene…..nice. Tons of young impressionable ladies there. Or, so I’ve heard. Not that I lived in Lubbock and ever came down to Abilene or anything like that.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Ooooo, look at those shoulders on Hill. Powell would be so impressed.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions
“The Spurs took Hill with the 26th pick in the 1st round, that’s how good this kid is.”
Hmmm. Maybe. That’s hilarious.
“Darko was the 3rd pick. He must be great. Same with Kwame Brown.”
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Somewhere Derrick Coleman is nodding furiously at that assessment.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
George Hill to the hoop, 2 FTs.
21 points for him. He looks…dare I say… like an NBA player tonight.
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21 points you say? How many field goals has he made.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
He’s likely 8 for 79 or something like that.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Pop quits when Tim quits. Which will leave us fans in a weird place. We’ll have Tony and some hand-picked successor to Pop who is doomed to fail. It will be awful.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I figure he’ll just yell at kids in the neighborhood.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Have I told you that he owns a place here? My buddy’s wife sold him his place, and he’s here in Colorado Springs every offseason. I’ve struggled thinking about running into him somewhere. Should I buy him a glass of wine, or punch him in the face? I’ll have to go with the moment…
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
We'll have the big three...
... of Tony, Mahinmi, and George Hill, with crusty veteran Manu Ginobili coaching the team.
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Hey, we don’t have any donations tonight. I want at least one.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:48 PM CDT reply actions
There’s only 4 of us here, best I can count.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
True, but at least ONE of us hasn’t donated yet.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
No, Tim is a stand up guy. He won’t run off into retirement. But he’s not exciting either so the media will just let him go. It’s really sad that our culture doesn’t appreciate Tim more and that they so love such a Narcissistslike Kobe and LeBron.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Overrated by the media: I might go with Marbury. He’s never done shit. He’s always played with losing teams. And he is shit as a point guard. Also high on the list is Baron Davis.
Underrated by the media: Richard Hamilton is up there.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
You were typing Marbury as I was thinking Francis. No difference though, same guy.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
True. Although I liked Francis better.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s funny – I joked with a friend that they should only count one of them against the Knicks cap after they traded for Stevie, because of the similarities.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Steph is really going to have a shitty year, with the bankruptcy of Steve and Barry’s (his shoe retailer) and the whole NBA failure thing.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Couldn’t have happend to a better guy.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Going back to the crappy songs topic, my radio is spewing audio vomit all over my house right now. Another for the list thats currently playing? Anything by Chicago and Peter Cetera.
I never got magazines. So I don’t have one. I did have the George Gervin sitting in the block of ice throne poster though.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m actually looking for that one. If you ever want to part with it, let me know.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
And I ask this because I have a SPURS Wall of Fame that would blow you guys’ minds. I have several potentials, but one personal fave.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s creepy (says the lady as well), but you’d be speechless. It’s a lifetime of love and free time.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing goes better together than those two things.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Easy: Big Dave and Timmy holding up their trophies and gazing into each other’s eyes after the 2003 championship. I just wish Manu had snuck in there and held up his Euro trophies.
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Personal Fave: SI June 25, 07. “The Quiet Dynasty.” You’re talking about the ‘03 Sporting News cover, nice one.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I loved the SI cover after the 07 title. The five Spurs walking on to the floor (Bowen and Fab were the other two). Good articles too – all about the Spurs team concept.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Excellent favorite, Chief. See above. I like you’re thinking.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Is the game over? What happened to the feed?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:02 PM CDT reply actions
The Church shuts down all transmissions out of the state at 9:00PM MT. I was afraid of this.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn’t it true that Sir James Gist is the second coming of Robert Horry, but without the dirtiness? When should I expect you to join me on the Gist bandwagon? There’s still plenty of seats for all.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:03 PM CDT reply actions
Let the record show that I was first on the Gist bandwagon. You’re welcome to ride shotgun, though.
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You’re a dirty liar. I have been driving the wagon since the acquisition.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I am pretty solidly on the Gist bandwagon already. I don’t think Horry is dirty. I think Gist will be better if he learns to play dirty. He’s going to be the real deal though.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
To quote Pulp Fiction, “Let’s not start sucking each other’s …...”
Never mind. It’s early on Gist, but I like him so far. But I’ll bet $5 he ends up Austin for the season.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
I say he only plays in Austin until Xmas.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
If you could own a helicopter and personal pilot but it meant that Manu Ginobili would leave the SPURS for the Grizzlies, would you take it?
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:06 PM CDT reply actions
People, with a uterus I would have Manu’s children. But it’s a freakin helicopter. Seriously? I’m struggling with that one.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to admit...
... I’d take the helicopter.
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screw that. The only thing a helicopter is good for is slamming you into the side of a mountain.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
You chose…..wisely. I didn’t mention that Manu quits the Grizzlies, and becomes a helicopter pilot. And you hire him. Win-win.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
If you looked through the RM Revue schedule, you’ll see there’s a team from Iran in the tourney. Tomorrow afternoon they play Dallas. Who do you root for?
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:08 PM CDT reply actions
Iran all the way. The only good thing about Dallas is that CMoney lives there. And I’m pulling for him to move to Austin as soon as possible to make a movie with Scrappy.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m not the staunch republican that you are.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m more of a “War-Monger” than a “Republican.”
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I can’t see the difference. Are you splitting atoms? Hairs?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I can’t even have this conversation with you until I see definate proof of citizenship. If you don’t have one, you can go to hell.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
No lie.
The Mavericks called our office today and want a highlight video to kick off the season like we did for the cowboys…. fuuuuuuck.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
Good luck trying to not make Cuban look like an ass.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
82-57 SPURS win. Again, riveting. I love Summer League. Catch the fever.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:08 PM CDT reply actions
Damn. An entire night with no donations. Huh! What a tough week.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:10 PM CDT reply actions
Take off your SPURS hat. If you could build a team around either Tim Duncan in his prime or Shaq in his prime, who would you pick and why?
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:11 PM CDT reply actions
Shaq. He was really dominant. He’s an egocentric nut so I don’t know if I have to take into account that he has been with four teams. It is hard to build around a guy if he leaves.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m assuming this is an “all things being equal” question. Shaq in his prime was awesome. But…
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
It is. All things equal, skill set alone. Attitude no doubt puts Timmy over the top. But talent/leadership alone.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Talent, and for one season, it is Shaq. They guy was like a 40-20 machine in the playoffs.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, SiMA, you ask more questions than Hannibal Lecter. Hopefully ATS doesn’t choke on his own tongue tonight.
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Sadly, I had more prepared. I can interview, that’s for sure.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m still going. Bring it old man.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
And Tomasito has a 2 year old. He is going out tonight.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
that's why i'm here, actually
he was a little monkey last night and we didn’t get much sleep. my wife went to bed at about 8:30, leaving me little choice but to join you guys on the thread.
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This has been fun...
...much more fun than a crappy Summer League blowout should be. Enjoyed hanging with you guys for the evening. Gotta go get kids in bed.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Well, it has been fun gents. I’d love to say I’ll be back again for the impressive display that was Summer League, but it’ll only be for the blog. Gotta run out and meet the lady. Thanks ATS for the Q&A, it was good times. Nite all.
Go Iran.
by SgtinManusArmy on Jul 18, 2008 10:18 PM CDT reply actions
I'm out too, guys
This was cool—eases the withdrawal a little in preparation for another season of exciting SPURS basketball. Hopefully my driving the Gist bandwagon doesn’t mean it will end up in Austin this year. fingers crossed for the youth movement from pop.
Buena noches, amigos.
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Admittedly, I have had a little bit of wine, but I’m thinking a PtR trip to Vegas next summer for Summer League might be in order. It is high on my list of thing to do, I will say that.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 18, 2008 10:30 PM CDT reply actions
I think that’s the wine talking. Vegas is like ten thousand degrees this time of year. I’d rather hang out here in the ATX enjoying our comparatively cool 100 degree heat and watch Summer League on my computer.
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So I read the whole thing...
From ATS
I think Pop values basketball talent. Basketball talent is a LOT different than athletic. Dunking is not a basketball talent. Hitting a jumper is. Being able to dribble is. Being able to box out is. I think Pop values those things.
Well, athleticism and basketball talented must be related on some level. Because the older and less athletic RoHo, Fin, Bruce, and Stoudamire got, the less ability they had to dribble, make jumpers, and box out.
Running and jumping at an NBA level involves quick-twitch muscles. Over time you lose those. Some guys never have them to begin with. Finley used to be able to drive and jump, he can’t do it anymore. Horry neither. Also, while there are a few flat-footed shooters out there, most guys shoot with their legs, so when you’re tired or have lost your legs, like Fin, you can’t shoot as well. Not only that, but when you can’t get as much separation from your man as you used to, you put up more contested shots.
There are very, very few Steve Kerr-type specialists in the NBA and no serious team could afford to have more than one on their roster because they have so many limitations. Guys like Horry and Finley always depended on their athleticism to succeed and when it was gone, it hurt them.
It was wrong of Pop to assume Fin could simply knock down open shots like a Kerr because Fin’s career shooting percentage was always inflated by A) Dallas’ run-and-gun offense with Nash getting him easy shots and B) his ability to get to the rim, dunk, and get fast break points. As a Spur he was just taking jumpers, often very long or very contested, and he’s not a good enough shooter to succeed like that.
Horry meanwhile used to, at one time, be able to rebound and guard some people. He can’t do that anymore and all he takes are fadeaway threes. He can’t shoot because he can’t jump and he has a chronic bad shoulder. I really can’t stomach him being on the team another year, so hopefully he’ll have the dignity to retire or at the very least, go to the Mavs.
Agreed. Age, espeically old age, does effect a person’s basketball talent.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 19, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions
George was 6-14 last night. That brings his 4 game total to, let’s see, 8-39. Dang, that’s over 20%.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 19, 2008 8:57 AM CDT reply actions
ATS: i was gonna look the other way on your brent barry comments, but then i read the whole fanny pack thing and….......well, festival or not, that just aint good. get yourself some cargo shorts or put stuff in your wife’s purse for god sakes!
i mean, what else could you need to carry other than the following: wallet, keys, cell phone? perhaps a one hitter, lighter….ticket stub(s) i guess…....what am i mising here?
spurchief’s matt harping basketball camp comment was the highlight on the thread i thought. much like brent barry is a somewhat of a personal hero to me, matt harpring is to my younger brother (who is 6-6 and played college ball). you can bet that i pasted that into an e-mail and fired it off to him the moment i quit crying/laughing at it.
anybody know where i can watch an archived feed of ast nights titanic struggle vs. utah? i havent been anywhere on-line except here so far this morning. saturday breakfast with PtR in july. what other blog site could boast a 400+ comment thread over a summer league game. now that, spurs bretheren, is a blog.
I actually am quite the site at the music festival. I wear hiking pants (the rei kind), long sleeve underarmor, and a wide brimmed straw hat. The “fanny” pack has drink holders on it. So it is usually packing 2 bottles of water and 2 cans of beer along with my wallet, keys, phone, and sun block.
The wife doesn’t come. So no purse action for me.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 19, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I can’t find it archived anywhere yet.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 19, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
The sunblock is for the face, neck, and hands. A few years back I had a basal cell skin cancer removed. I take my sun protection a little more seriously. Especially when I am in the sun for 12 consecutive hours.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 23, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
oh yeah – and on the ginobili contract extension thing: what are the chances that the spurs get an extension going sooner than later? lock him up now/soon at a discounted rate. like they did with tim. thoughts?
I think the Manu extension negotiations depend on one thing and one thing only, his health upon the conclusion of the Olympics. If he’s 100% coming into training camp, I think they’ll have a deal to announce. If it’s a “Well, after the latest setback we hope to have him by January” kind of situation, then no deal will be in the offing.
by Aaronstampler on Jul 19, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
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