NBA Draft Open Thread
by sungo on Jun 26, 2008 2:09 PM CDT
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PrintI am back from Italy. I will eventually upload pictures to flickr (or someplace) and I'll post the link. But the NBA draft is today, so I suppose we should talk about that. Of course you guys have already been discussing it, but I want to throw in my two cents.
First, here's a list of current Spurs players I want to play more than 20 minutes a game next year:
Tim Duncan
Manu Ginobili
Tony Parker
Second, here's a list of current Spurs players I want to have the opportunity to prove they deserve to play more than 20 minutes a game:
Ian Mahinmi
Umadoka
Brent Barry
Third, allow me to explain why Bruce Bowen is not on either list.
He's 37. When's the last time a 37 year old player not named Michael Jordan and 6'-8" or less deserved to play 20 minutes a game? 1972. That's when. George Kaplan. Backup point guard for the New Haven Blackskirts. The starting point guard got the clap something awful and George stepped up and played admirably the last half of the season.
It seems the general consensus amongst Spurs fans is that Bowen played terrific defense against Kobe during the playoffs. Based on Kobe's statistical performance this simply isn't true. Take at look at his true shooting % against his four opponents (TS% = PTS / (FGA + .44 * FTA)).
vs. DEN = 59.4%
vs. UTA = 62.9%
vs. SA = 58.5%
vs. BOS = 50.5%
during regular season = 57.6%
Kobe performed better against the Spurs than his average performance during the regular season, and the Spurs fared only marginally better than DEN. The freaking Nuggets, people.
An additional point I would like to make about Bowen. He's labeled as a good three point shooter, but I don't consider this true. I know he shot 42% from 3 this year. But at least 80% of those shots were uncontested attempts from the corner. How many NBA SG / SF would have hit 40% or better of Bruce Bowen's 3P attempts? 50%? 75%?
I don't mean to pick on Bruce Bowen. He certainly was infinitely more valuable than Michael Finley and Robert Horry (who, for the sake of my sanity, I am assuming will not see the court a single minute next year). He should have his number retired as soon as he's done, and I hope the Spurs offer him a coaching / administrative position immediately. But it's time for his role to change dramatically. Any thoughts to the contrary strike me as more pie in the sky "We can win a title with the Big Three and any cast of scrubs" mentality that, basically, cost us the title this year.
I think that too often Spurs fans and management use the talents of the Big Three as an excuse to accept shoddy play / players. Tim, Tony and Manu are so talented and hard-working that so little is expected from the players around them. You hear about finding veterans that "fit into the system." How about finding "good players?"
And by "good players," I mean someone that is not going to be stashed overseas for a couple and then not signed or traded for 25 cents on the dollar to a division rival. There's your NBA draft content. Oh, and Chad Ford has us drafting Nicolas Batum, saying:
Batum went into a workout with the Spurs on Wednesday and then disappeared off the grid. His medical reports never came out. His agent didn't return calls. I think the Spurs may have wrapped him up.
Who do I want? CDR.
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Hey, what about Oberto? I think he should get to play 20 a game. Even if Mahinmi really works out, him and timmy will need someone to rest them.
CDR
I’m on the CDR bandwagon as well, I wonder if he is on the Spurs’ radar. In some of the quotes I’ve scanned around the blogsphere, Pop has been predictably cryptic regarding the direction they’re taking in the draft. So who really knows. That stash a pick away crap ain’t gonna cut it, the future is now!
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
I did a little research and my research could be summarized as such: If you think the Spurs are going to get a player that they can plug in and get production from, much less 20 minutes a game, you would have a better chance of catching a snow ball in hell.
I looked through the last three drafts here at espn. Here are the players not taken in the Top 10 who have contributed to playoff teams. I think by the list you will be able to tell I am using contributing loosely:
2007: Rodney Stuckey(15), Julian Wright(13), Glen Davis(35)
2006: Ronnie Brewer(14), Rajon Rondo(21), Jordan Farmar(26), Daniel Gibson(42)
2005: Ronny Turiaf
Sure, I may have missed a bit guy here or there, but that is not an impressive list. So, if CDR is available at 26 I’m not going to be that excited.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions
Hopefully, whoever the Spurs draft can at least contribute during the regular season so Manu, Tim, and Tony aren’t worn down by the time we reach the playoffs.
by ForeignFlopper on Jun 26, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
CDR can probably at least do that, assuming he falls to 26.
by ForeignFlopper on Jun 26, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Some notable omissions:
2007:
Thaddeus Young (12)
Al Thornton (14)
Carl Landry (31)
2006:
Paul Millsap (47)
Leon Powe (49)
2005:
Sean May (13)
Danny Granger (17)!!!
Hakim Warrick (19)
Luther Head (24)
Jason Maxiell (26)
Linas Kleiza (27)
David Lee (30)
Brandon Bass (33)
Monta Ellis (40)
Andray Blatche (49)
Ryan Gomes (50)
Also remember that Parker was a late first round pick and that Manu was a 2nd round pick. On the right year if you play your cards right you can get a good player, even late in the draft.
I noticed one common theme
“Undersized” power forwards in the 6’7” to 6’9” range, make up a good portion of that list.
Thaddeas Young, Carl Landry, Paul Millsap, Leon Powe, Sean May, Hakim Warrick, Jason Maxiell, Brandon Bass.
ATS said guys outside the top 10 who contributed to "playoff" teams
So you are right on Landry, Millsap,etc. But guys like Sean May, Thornton, David Lee, etc have not been to the playoffs
CDR would be good if available. Players from the National Championship game are good choices. Brandon Rush will probably be gone. Mario Chalmers could be the backup point guard we need. The only reason he’ll fall so low is that he didn’t play point full time in college, but he’s a good shooter, an excellent defender, and athletic.
Trading out of the First Round
SI.com had a blurb that the Spurs and Celts are shopping their picks to get out of the first round….ugh, here we go again, the old get older…..maybe they really do have their sights set on signing JR Smith.
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Trade out or draft a young foreign player. That has been the Spurs 1st round draft script this millenium. I am still hoping for a change.
I think if Pop had his way the Spurs would never acquire any American under the age of 31.
by ForeignFlopper on Jun 26, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s basically because he thinks young American players “haven’t gotten over themselves” and are basically uncoachable.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Stampizzle is Live and Ready To Go
Hello and we are coming to you LIVE from Aaron’s apartment extravaganza. I am all alone except for my arch-nemesis, Manolis’ stupid cat Amoeba, who is secretly plotting to murder me any second now, I’m convinced. All my stupid friends who were supposed to hang out with me tonight have bailed (a strip club was even in the offing, alas) so I’m the loser all alone, blogging in my sweatpants.
I’m eagerly awaiting which foreigner the Spurs will draft three hours from now that will never play for them because the Euro is way stronger than the U.S. Dollar. Really, I can’t tell you how thrilled I am. No team has made the NBA Draft Must-Watch Television in the past six years more than our San Antonio Spurs.
Anyway, I’ll be here all night to crack jokes on all these guys I haven’t heard about, make fun of ridiculous comments by the talking crack heads and respond to any and all questions you throw my way about soccer or anything else.
Sorry to jack your thread Matthew, but…. actually no, I’m not sorry.
Outstanding. I’m atwitter! I plan on being in and out of the thread all night.
And VWolf, your notable omissions list is almost as way off as my list to begin with. 8 or 9 on yours have never been in the playoffs. And a couple that were didn’t really contribute.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, I missed the playoff part. Regardless, those are some good players and I would probably want most of them to be a Spur (but not all at once!).
No problem. I was just trying to make the point that good teams finding guys in the draft that contribute to being a good team is very rare.
That being said, I’m still excited about the draft.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Two trades already
So far we’ve already had the Bucks ship out Yi and Bobby Simmons to NJ for the spectacularly overrated Richard Jefferson. I guess this makes the Bucks marginally better, but probably still not good enough to make the playoffs since they play no defense whatsoever. As for the Nets, it’s pretty apparent that they’re just trying to unload as much money as possible to free up the payroll for LBJ in ‘10. I know James is like Jay-Z’s girlfriend and all, but why would he want to join Brooklyn if he’s got no players around him?
Then again, he’s already in that same spot in Cleveland and here he’d make way more money and be even more famous, so I guess that answers that.
The second trade has Jermaine O’Neal going to T-dot for ‘Sho, T.J. Ford, and a first rounder. Believe it or not, but I think this was a good gamble for the Raptors, if they can get any kind of production from O’Neal. My friend Ro astutely (not often I put those two words together, believe me) pointed out that O’Neal and Bosh do a lot of the same things in similar areas of the floor, so I guess the younger guy will just have to learn to bang a little bit. If O’Neal can give them 60 healthy games, it would at the very least improve the Raptors awful defense. And now Calderon has the starting point guard job all to himself, so at least somebody over there is paying attention.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Honestly, I’ve never been more proud to be a Turk. It was, by far, the best game they played in the tournament, at least offensively. They attacked for almost the full 90 minutes. They outplayed Germany with their B team. Germany beat them with three perfect shots.
This performance by Turkey is roughly 3,151 more times more impressive than their third place showing in the World Cup. Back then they played nobody, they never had the ball in any of the games except the Senegal game, they played long ball and just booted it down the field in terror, they were really playing over their heads and defensive. Now the whole team can dribble, they can all pass and shoot, and they can all make fancy moves to get by their markers. The whole team is young and fast and skilled, it’s amazing.
It’s been a rough summer for Manu and guys who look like Manu though. Mehmet Topal was probably partially responsible for all three German goals. He didn’t cover Schweinsteiger for the first, he let Klose outjump him for the 2nd, and he didn’t execute the offside trap on Lahm for the third. He’s a midfielder who was forced to play centerback, and it cost them dearly. He’s 22 and hopefully this won’t ruin his career, he was by far their worst player in the game.
As for the team overall, I can’t be more proud or excited. Unlike the ‘02 team, a bunch of veterans making their last run, this team is young and vibrant and is going to get better. Really, Turkey should be ranked 6th in the world. You have Argentina, Brazil, Italy, Germany and Spain. After that Turkey proved they’re as good as anybody and it would be nice if they could play with their starting XI all at the same time. Their trainers and medical people all need to get fired and replaced because they did a shitty ass job of getting those guys healthy.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
There’s no 3rd place game at this tournament, but considering how shitty the Russians were today, I don’t think anyone would argue that we’re the 3rd place team here, just like we were in the ‘02 World Cup. That’s consistent, if nothing else.
The team is exciting and fun and skilled and offensive and had a lot of heart, but again, they had no defense. At the end of the day do you want to be the Spurs or the Suns? I’m sure we made a lot of fans and were memorable and everyone will want to watch us the next tournament now to see what we do next, but meanwhile, the Greek team, who nobody enjoyed watching play, and nobody is talking about, still took the title in ‘04 with a bunch of boring 1-0 games.
Manolis enjoyed watching Turkey play a lot, but still when it’s all said and done, I’m jealous of him, not the other way around.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
One long term draft prediction...
Whoever drafts O.J. Mayo will regret it. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of their lives, they will regret it. He’s a bad apple, he’s named after a serial murderer, and his last name is Mayo, for crying out loud. No chance he’ll be a star.
By the way, I saw a Turkey football jersey in a Nike store in Rome. I thought about getting it for you until I looked at the price tag; $115.
What? Your friendship isn’t worth $115? Geez.
I wouldn’t have gotten it either.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t have bought it for myself and I love myself at least four times a week.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t have much privacy! I could masturbate right now, but the draft is on and I’m not Jerry Krause.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Turkey Schmurkey. I picked Germany at the beginning and they are in the finals. I’ve never been less proud of any team I have pulled for.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 5:56 PM CDT reply actions
German fans are their own hardest critics. My friend Jeremy is the same way. He won’t forgive them for not winning the World Cup as the hosts. Good god. I remember back in 2000 they didn’t get out of the group stages in a Euro and their coach, Rudi Voller said, “We are the soccer idiots of Europe.”
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you guys hear/read that Juan Carlos Navarro is leaving the Grizzle and going back to Spain? Just like Spanoulis his coach didn’t use him enough or in the right way and he’s bolting back to Europe. Combine that with the economy problems here and it’s looking like the league will be less foreign in the future. That doesn’t please me at all. It’s like George Bush’s xenophobic strategy is to make this country less appealing to “furners” by making it crappy as hell to live here.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
1st pick update!
The Bulls will take Derrick Rose apparently. Didn’t see that coming.
So uh, what do they do now with Hinrich? I’d take him on the Spurs as a 3rd guard if nobody wants him.
That’s not the worst thing in the world. He had a decent career. Not a #1 overall career, but a nice career. He was better than Joe Smith.
True dat. True dat. I was watching some show on the World Wide Follower a fews years ago and Greg Anthony was in the studio. He said Carmelo Anthony would eventually only be as good as Glenn Robinson. It got me thinking, wasn’t Glenn Robinson better than Greg Anthony?
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
Your ass tastes like, ummm, spanikopita!
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
I think Bogut is okay. I kind of dig him. Or fancy him as the football announcers say. Every sport should have British announcers. It’s so cool to read a gamecast and see that somebody is “crap.”
crap is only a bad word if somebody does it on you.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I know you mentioned it, but Turkey’s keeper’s mistake coming off the line on that header was inexcusable. As soon as I saw that, I went “Oh cr*p.”
by Jason Roberts on Jun 26, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, actually, we didn’t see it live at the time thanks to the wonderfully competent TV/electric people at Switzerland. What a stupid country. I resume hating them now.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
True. When the announcers reported Germany had scored off a header, I had in my mind that the goal was more of perfect placement getting past the goalie instead of his mistake.
by Jason Roberts on Jun 26, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t know what Rustu could’ve done. If he stayed on his line he wouldn’t have gotten to it because it was placed perfectly in the corner. His only chance was a diagonal run to punch the ball before it got to Klose’s head.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Hindsight and all that. I probably would’ve stayed on the line only because there’s some time to set up for the header and make the deflection. But I’m a short guy and can’t outleap most guys.
by Jason Roberts on Jun 26, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I watched about 3 minutes of the Turkey/Germany game yesterday and got so disgusted with the ref that I turned it off. I saw Lahm tackle, not soccer tackle but football tackle, Altintop and not get a yellow card. Then I saw Lahm get run through at the edge of the box for a “play on”. That was fucking pathetic.
By ‘that’, I mean both calls in total.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Bad, inconsistent officiating in soccer? That never happens. Thank God I’m a basketball fan so I don’t have to worry about that.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Are we supposed to just roll with you making up names of players or should we correct you?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that was the guy’s father’s name.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Another prediction...
I don’t think Kevin Love can play. I saw him against Memphis and he couldn’t post up or get off a shot. And that outlet pass shit won’t work in the NBA more than three times when they scout it.
Shaq's mouth
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
Rose stated that his goal is to win the MVP next year. Some might say that makes him driven or ambitious or even cocky. Me? I think that makes him insane and I’d stay away.
Wow, I had no idea Rose had such an ugly shot. That’s going to be a problem.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 6:41 PM CDT reply actions
I would’ve been happier if Miami selected Pam Beasley.
by Jason Roberts on Jun 26, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry. Didn’t know you were such a fan of her.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Sonics take Westbrook.
Wow, that’s kind of high for him, no? I like this pick though. Presti is the fucking man.
I’ve been meaning to write this for a long time:
I’ve seen games in Key Arena. I’ve seen games in the AT&T Center. Key Arena is about a thousand times better a place to watch a game.
Except Manu Ginobili makes two appearances annually in the Key Arena and about 48 or so in the AT&T Center, so I rest my case.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he positively sucked. So there.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Memphis takes Love.
Oh god, they’re gonna suck forever. It’s funny they took a guy when their college team kicked his ass up and down the floor.
Memphis
Isn’t their owner only going to sell them? He has to right? It’s not like he gives a damn anyway.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
You beat me to it…
“Not a great runner of the floor” = “He’s a fatass”
by SgtinManusArmy on Jun 26, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
If only Isiah was still in charge.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
Italian coach takes Italian player.
Oooh he better hope that works out. The fans aren’t happy. I kinda like this pick, but I’m biased for foreigners.
Deadspin was reporting his nickname as “Big Cock.”
by Jason Roberts on Jun 26, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Well the groupies will find out real quick if he’s worthy of it.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Clippers take Gordon.
He looks like he’s 13. Does this mean the team officially doubts that the guy who dislocated both legs will ever play again?
Marc Jackson doesn’t like the pick of Gallinari. He says the fans want somebody who can play right away. Like Stephon Marbury.
Maybe Marc meant ‘playa’ and not ‘player’.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Bucks take Alexander.
Two years in a row now they took a dude who can speak Chinese. Surely an NBA first.
sweet, he can take advantage of that with yi on the… hmm…
gospursgo. hook 'em. metal rules. ganja rules.
by metalandganja on Jun 26, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
mine is okay, except for the crossover.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I am calling my shot on DJ Augastine. He is my lead pipe cinch of the draft. Somebody should have picked him already. He has to be holding his breath hoping the Bobs won’t pick him.
gotta like the attitude
gospursgo. hook 'em. metal rules. ganja rules.
by metalandganja on Jun 26, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
When the Clippers took Gordon Bilas’ analysis was that he was a pure shooting guard. Not a combo guard. He wasn’t going to play the point.
The Stu Scott, in shit stirring mode says, “The Knicks need a point guard. Gordon just went after Galinari. Should the Knicks have taken Gordon to fill a need”?
It went something like that anyway.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions
Bilas is wrong. Gordon is a combo guard.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
Bobcats take Augustin
Brook Lopez dropping like a stone. All these other white stiffs get taken and not him?
That means he’s getting closer to being drafted by SA. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by Jason Roberts on Jun 26, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I 2nd that emotion....
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
I say Lopez goes to the Nets with the next pick. Take it to the bank.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:27 PM CDT reply actions
So the Nets traded Jefferson to the Bucks for Yi and Simmons. What does that bode for Vince Carter next season? Is he going to go into Toronto Dog mode? Stand around a jack every shot he sees?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions
Lopez to Nets.
Should he just call LeBron’s agent and introduce himself now just to get it over with?
The draftexpress.com mock draft nailed the first 8 picks missing on Lopez at 9.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions
perhaps they should be on the podium then.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
If they stole him, they got what they deserved.
by Jason Roberts on Jun 26, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Stephen A. Smith says Lopez has a mean streak. What better way to show it off for everyone than for him just to slug Smith right now in the face? It would impress me, for one.
Also, he sounds just as retarded as his brother. These two went to Stanford?
Bayless to Pacers.
I like the name Jerod. How do you spell it though? Is it J-e-r-o-d? J-e-r-r-o-d? J-e-r-i-d? No, wait, I’m positive it’s J-e-r-r-y-d.
Jerryd
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
Are the Spurs on the clock yet? I’m getting bored and I have already hit my beer limit.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions
only two short hours for them to pick a foreigner you’ve never heard of and promptly trade him, so sit tight.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
hey at least they got Penny right on the second try.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, how about those futbol highlights/commercials of the Germans beating the Turks.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions
the sad thing is my three favorite German players scored. It’d be a lot easier to hate them if it was Ballack and Podolski.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Kings take Thompson.
I don’t know him, but he looks imposing. And Jay Bilas says he’s not a great athlete. Well who the hell in this draft is then?
If I’m reading between the lines right with these analysts, this might be one of the least talented drafts ever.
But Bayless was great value at the 11th. They were lucky a talent like that fell to them. I’m confused.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Chad ford says Bayless is going to Portland for Jarret Jack and the 13
by man or pac-man? on Jun 26, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
If you combined Vince Carter and Adam Jones you would get “half-man, half-pacman”.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
If you took a shot every time one of these guys contradicted themselves you’d be dead of alcohol poisoning before the Spurs pick.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Here’s what I want to know. How will Thompson react when Mikki Moore and Beno ask him to “hang out?”
I read somewhere today that the Kings might have to take a point guard because Beno would be signing somewhere else.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t know. I just read it. They made it sound like they wouldn’t be able to keep him. It was weird.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
damn portland just got b rush. they are going to be sick…
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
The word above is they are trading him somewhere.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Portland takes Rush
Eh, decent pick. He could crack their rotation right away. I think Portland and Seattle have the two best GMs in the league…
Which begs the question… Buford getting a bit overrated these days? Even bloggers that hate the spurs seem to hang on his nuts
by man or pac-man? on Jun 26, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Free agents are pop territory. The draft is his deal.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Warriors take Anthony Randolph.
Um, we’ve officially reached the point where I haven’t heard of any of these guys. Sorry.
Outstanding. The Warriors take a Brandon Wright clone.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply actions
Those were the lamest highlights of an athletic 6-10 guy I have ever seen.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply actions
Hey, we may have to have a second half thread to the draft.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions
Their cap situation is MUCH worse since they acquired Snaq.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
trade in the works?
I just read that the Blazers may trade Rush/Jarret Jack to the Pacers for Jerryd Bayless.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
anyone else read that parker is going to be in the ‘war room’ with pop and RC tonight? i hope this doesnt mean their all drunk when they make the pick… or maybe i do, throw caution to the wind and all that
by man or pac-man? on Jun 26, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions
their = they're
who am i calling drunk?
by man or pac-man? on Jun 26, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
yay more french guys. Our whole team will be surrendermonkeys.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I hadn’t heard that, but it excites me for some reason. You know, thinking of FrenchieMcWonderButt in a war room. HAHAHAHA!
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
there’s no fighting in the war room!
by man or pac-man? on Jun 26, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, then they are going to have to find a way to close the Talent Gap.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Suns take the other Lopez
Boy the conversations between him and Shaq should just be reminiscent of the algonquin round table.
Hey Tony, what would you think if we drafted the French guy? That would be unbelievable! But I don’t want to pass him the ball when I’m in attack mode.
nice. “unbelievable!”
gospursgo. hook 'em. metal rules. ganja rules.
by metalandganja on Jun 26, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Tony has said the word “unbelievable” more than anyone except the lead singer of EMF.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
we’re supposed to play that song soon in the 90s cover band i’m in.
gospursgo. hook 'em. metal rules. ganja rules.
by metalandganja on Jun 26, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, Maurice Speights can move his feet!
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions
76ers take Speights
bilas says he’s a big time talent. He didn’t dominate his league, but he didn’t get dominated either.
So that’s who you want to spend a 1st rounder on, a guy who doesn’t get killed by random people in his league.
Speights was 28th on the draftexpress mock. That would make him the biggest reach by far tonight.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply actions
Harlem Nights was 1989, so maybe that.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoa! Hibbert to the Raptors to the Pacers.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions
pacer’s proposed pick
gospursgo. hook 'em. metal rules. ganja rules.
by metalandganja on Jun 26, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
oh right. Never mind. I think I’d rather have hibbert than jermaine o’neal. Maybe Toronto can cancel that trade and move Ford for somebody else.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
He’s supposed to be headed to the Pacers in the O’Neal deal.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
me too
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
Actually it's Minnie Mouse
By the way that was one of the best nicknames given out in that post. And that photo really accompanied it well
I want somebody who is good-looking, read better looking than Reggie Miller, so my wife will start watching games.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
We are only 9 picks away. I’m getting excited.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions
Ok, I starting to get a sniff of Donte Greene at 26.
And Koufos is dropping like a rock. draftexpress had Koufos at 11.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply actions
Wizards take McGee.
His mom was in the WNBA and his dad was drafted, so at least he’s got the genes.
I think Steve Blake is their best point guard.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
unless I’m a wide receiver, it’s not a town that sounds fun to be for an athlete.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be our second Dr. Strangelove reference of the night.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
what was the first? Don’t make me scroll the whole thing.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
“There’s no fighting in the war room”
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
it’s why stephen jackson shot up the strip club. He couldn’t believe the lack of quality
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
He was probably trying to get Slim Pickens off the pole
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
draftexpress had Hickson at 30. So that is two guys moving down to our range.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply actions
i was shocked at anthony randolph
the A&M guy is still up
by Linix129 on Jun 26, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply actions
He’s stupid crazy athletic, but he doesn’t have a lot of basketball skill. In other words, he’s a bust.
“stupid crazy athletic” I could totally see Stu Scott using that.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Powell, will you be excited if the Spurs get the Aggie Jordan?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:24 PM CDT reply actions
So what are the chances that CDR will be there at 26, only to see Pop draft a foreigner?
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
94% that he’ll be there, 99.9% that Pop won’t draft him.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
i had to grade that guy's papers
and that means I saw him play…no game at all
by Justin Biehle on Jun 26, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
how was his writing? oh and powell, hook ‘em
by man or pac-man? on Jun 26, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
it was as expected…i wonder how many players have written a paper entitled “why I love the game of basketball”
by Justin Biehle on Jun 26, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
seriously...
athletic as shit, but my friend (and this is the truth) wrecked him in a rec game… my friend: 6’3”
I liked how espn just showed us where France is on the globe. Like we thought it was a city in Oklahoma or something.
Uh, you forget we’re the least geographically literate country in the Western world.
by Jason Roberts on Jun 26, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Bobcats take French guy, but not the one the Spurs want.
Josh McRoberts also going to Pacers in the previous trade. Wee.
that was his hat
i thought the same, though…
by Justin Biehle on Jun 26, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
My world view is shot to shit! It explains why I didn’t understand why they were in the Euro Cup tournament.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply actions
im sure alot of PtR guys were pulling for turkey due to the fact that we had bought into all of the subversive propaganda
by Justin Biehle on Jun 26, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, they were worth my hype, right? I didn’t sell you a bunch of smallpox blankets there.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Van Gundy...
also wants NBA cage matches
by Justin Biehle on Jun 26, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
3 draftexpress top 20 guys are still on the board: Koufos, Arthur, Greene
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions
NO!!! Manu is European because he’s from Italy.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Ryan Anderson. Our first draftexpress 2nd rounder
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions
Darrell Arthur has the ugliest mother in the draft. That’s why nobody is taking him. Shoulda left her home.
Nobody. It was just a generic toss off statement.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Commercials...
are the most annoying shit ever… worse than that “glug glug” sound that stuff makes when you pour it out of a bottle or something…
So how many more drafts before The Sports Guy hangs out in the Green Room.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions
I think he should have just explied it. Because we all know it.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Horribly awful.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
not entirely sure… im typing faster than I think…
by Justin Biehle on Jun 26, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m surprised Darryl Arthur hasn’t been selected yet.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
So is he.
Koufos is plummeting also. The Spurs will have an interesting pick.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I am doing exactly what Pop is doing now, searching the bottom rankings of international player reports and looking for foreign players under long term contracts.
wino
while doing keg stands of merlot
by man or pac-man? on Jun 26, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
seriously bros, this is a really good syrah…
by Justin Biehle on Jun 26, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
the one player that DeAndre Jordan destroyed whilst at A&M
by Justin Biehle on Jun 26, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Chalmers nickname should be “Superintendent.”
by Jason Roberts on Jun 26, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
wow
your brain is like a repository of useless but awesome triviality
by man or pac-man? on Jun 26, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
trivialty?
trivia? yeah… pass the wine bong pop
by man or pac-man? on Jun 26, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm a college grad...after 6 yrs...
useless info is my specialty
by Justin Biehle on Jun 26, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you kidding? Omri is a great player.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow. Arthur and Greene are still on the board with only 1 pick before us. I might be getting excited.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions
OK. Get ready to make your guesses fellas.
What are the Spurs going to do with their pick? Start once they announce the Houston pick.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions
Senegal (French: le Sénégal), officially the Republic of Senegal, is a country south of the Sénégal River in western Africa. Senegal is bounded by the Atlantic Ocean to the west, Mauritania to the north, Mali to the east, and Guinea and Guinea-Bissau to the south. The Gambia lies almost entirely within Senegal, surrounded on the north, east and south; from its western coast, Gambia’s territory follows the Gambia River more than 300 kilometres (186 miles) inland. Dakar is the capital city of Senegal, located on the Cape Verde Peninsula on the country’s Atlantic coast.
How about this…draft Joe Crawford from Kentucky. Make sure he makes the team and then humiliate him for the entire season. Have him shave one eyebrow. Pop can state after every Spur game, “Joe Crawford blows ass”.
well that would just humiliate a young man for no reason.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
scola is a less tough, younger version of KT…
by Justin Biehle on Jun 26, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
awesome prediction
... maybe this is further payment for scola
by man or pac-man? on Jun 26, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn, there goes our French guy.
I’m saying we take Arthur.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions
Besides. We like guys with kidney problems.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply actions
No to Chalmers
The Spurs already have the guys to handle the rock at PG. Tony, Manu, JV, Brent. Pop, don’t try to get fucking cute, get some athleticism on the wing!!!!
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
Here we go…
Who the fuck was that pick?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions
Who in the fuck is that!!!
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
if they just draft for a trade, why not take someone with some name recognition?
by man or pac-man? on Jun 26, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
What a reach! Argh!! I hope we are trading him.
I feel sodomized.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply actions
I’m firmly on the haters bandwagon right now.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions
You gotta be kidding me
Donte Greene was available and they take george hill? that sounds like a bowler or something
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Pop has lost his mind. What a dick. A complete dick. I guess it is true he doesn’t want to any younger players on the team. What a fucking dick. He won’t take the effort to bring up a young guy. What a lazy, drunk, pathetic ass.
yeah! fuck that old 22 year old george hill! are they pulling picks from the retirement home?
i dont like the pick at all..but how can you complain about not bringing up a young guy? hes straight out o college
by codyunderblood on Jun 26, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
who would trade us for this...
seriously… what GM is in the back of the draft salivating over george fucking hill?
Ok, what GM out there is crazier than Pop and RC? Because we either drafted him for us or for somebody crazier than us.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions
thats Hank
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
I do have to say that they just harshed my mellow.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions
Well, I guess the Spurs are looking to find help on the perimeter in free agency. Josh Childress or Kelenna Azubuike come to mind.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
That pick has been traded for money to the Blazers.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, I’m saying the Spurs are trading Hill and their 2nd round pick to the Rockets for Batum.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions
Did it sound like Stern was chuckling before he announced the Hornets’ pick? He must’ve been thinking of SA’s pick.
Yeah it did. That was Pops present to the rest of NBA.
by Clintons Cigar on Jun 26, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s like Pop feels so guilty for drafting the big three that he’s promised to draft crap for the rest of his career.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Pop must have had a fish bowl and the guys card stuck to his fingers which were covered in hot wing sauce. Now you can finish your meal Pop.
by Clintons Cigar on Jun 26, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/round?draftyear=2008
fuck off, chad ford…. ass… we KNOW CHALMERS IS BETTER…
Portland is loaded
I know I mentioned it earlier, but my goodness Portland is going have a powerhouse squad like VERY soon.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
SN take on Hill
Think of him as a dime store Mario Chalmers. He’s not as athletic, didn’t play at as high a level, didn’t make the signature shot of the college season. But he’s smart, has great length and commitment to defense and can make a jumpshot. A nice pick to be a backup point guard. So it’s not worth going to the pre-draft camp? Ha! Hill made a bunch of money with four days’ work.
When will the George Hill jerseys be up on spurs.com?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
I already bought it, so it’s SOLD OUT>
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
classic… put that on the all time quotes…
by Justin Biehle on Jun 26, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Just Caught It (a day late)
Effin HA HA Larious!!!!
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius
by raynorschiene on Jun 27, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
DUDE
Can’t help but think Alfrederick Hughes.
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius
Hell yeah, Alfrederick was a baller.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, what is wrong with CDR? Too small, weak, character issues? I only saw a few games, but he looked awesome to me.
Next two Spurs picks will probably be unpronouncable names
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
True, but I nailed this years first rounder. Ian and Tiago were tough, but I can honestly say I OWN George Hill. That’s some pronouncable shit right there.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
the fear at ptr is that you can own him on the basketball court as well.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m a baller man. There’d be no shame in that.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
JR Giddens maybe?
Do you all think JR Giddens may be available at 45?
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
Probably. I mean if D’Andre Jordan hasn’t been drafted yet…
by Jason Roberts on Jun 26, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at the bright spot...
We need a backup point and we always complain they take nothing but foreigners…
so maybe they like the guy? No?
Eh, probably not.
According to nba.com
He majored in Sports Managment, maybe this is just a really good internship opportunity
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
MEFLIZTXK
in the Roman alphabet is how old Robert Horry is.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy shit, pop in to see what people think of the draft and everybody going nuts over the pick. The Spurs do this every year. I trust Pop and RC. No need to flip out about it. Wait to see how this guy performs.
Nope. Not trusting them. I’m on the hater wagon.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll admit
I overreacted a bit, but free agency looms, so surely there will be a good addition made then. At least I hope so.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
I think it’s been long enough since the Tony & Manu picks, that we can now focus on the non-playing of Barbosa, Scola, & Splitter, and say, no, the Spurs don’t get the benefit of the doubt in the draft.
I dunno. Our 3rd best player is like the 25th best in the nba. No other team can say that.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Although, somehow Nba.com’s profile for Hill combines his seasons shooting .412, .320, .308, & .450 to be a career total of .785… Maybe they just couldn’t turn down a 75%+ 3pt shooter…
Dumars drafts well...
but what the hell was with the darko pick? Chad Ford have some dirt on him or something?
by man or pac-man? on Jun 26, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow. A guy out of college “isn’t the athlete he used to be”. And I thought I was aging in dog years.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply actions
White dealt with a lot of injuries while he was at Indiana, but he will be servicable. If guys like Leon Powe, Chuck Hayes, and Jason Maxiell have moderate success in the league, then so can this guy.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
I’m not the athlete I used to be and I never was.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I can’t wait.
It’s a shame that his career has gone so far down the toilet. Back in 2001, 2002 he was refreshing.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe the Spurs are just drafting for the Torros? Quinn has to be happy.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
hahahaha
hahahahahaha…. and you’re probably right
by man or pac-man? on Jun 26, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
An excellent point. I’ll have plenty of opportunities to go downtown and watch George Hill clang jumpers at the convention center.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
You want to go halfsies on a season ticket?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
uh-oh. I think VWolf just popped a nut. The Celtics took his man in the first round.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions
Well I'll be damned....
Well, free agency it is for perimeter help. Pop wasn’t going to play rookies anyway, so getting a younger player with some experience was the goal. Oh well.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
Into the second round
I expect a big run on foreigners. The big Turks will go soon I bet.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:33 PM CDT reply actions
How about this
Nicolas Batum was traded by Houston to Portland in exchange for the rights to Darrell Arthur and one of Portland’s early second round picks.
I guess they took him just to piss us off after all.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah Chad Ford seemed to think the Spurs and Batum were a match….3 french guys on the team then, that wouldve worked out
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
because the French have been so dominant in international competition.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Dickie V!
Makes me feel like I conquer the world now
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Vitale is an idiot. He’s the pre-cursor to Stephen A Smith. If Vitale never happened, SAS never happens.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:35 PM CDT reply actions
dick vitale's awesome baby college hoops...
out now for your sega genesis video game entertainment system
I don't think I'm long for this live blog.
Manolis is kind of being a drag and wants to change the channel.
I thought Manolis would kind of have a thing for JVG!
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions
Just trying to make a (lame) joke that the coverage is so bad that maybe he’d be interested in JVG.
It’s not like there is anything else to keep a non-NBA fan interested.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
So the second round of the NBA draft is essentially pointless is the impression Im getting
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
i always auto draft everything after the 1st in NBA 2k8… which i am going to play right now…
by Justin Biehle on Jun 26, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Does that mean Manolis is playing Silver to your Stern?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Poor Chalmers. He’s stuck in Minnesota now. With a mean-nasty-joker. Oh wait, the mean-nasty-joker is going to Greece.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:49 PM CDT reply actions
Also michael secretly thinks he’s very cute, he’s got a little picture of him in his wallet, but don’t let that get around or he’ll kill me
Fantastic. I was going to call him ‘crap’ but I won’t as to not offend the Stampizzle.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
he’ll fit right in in Greece, they’re all pricks over there, you have to be to stuff your face with Baklava the way they do
Mmmmmm, Baklava. Too late to run out and get some.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
what is baklava? sounds tasty
What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)
the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post
by Hamer_SpursFan on Jun 26, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Shit, are you serious? It’s like sugar and pistachio in filo or something. It’s sweet, sticky, and tasty.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
hmmmm, i dont know if they have it at my local grocery store. is it a dessert or somethin?
What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)
the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post
by Hamer_SpursFan on Jun 26, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep, its a dessert. I have never tried to make it. Buy it in a Greek deli or restaurant.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
So in summary
The Rockets wanted Arthur and picked in the 25th spot. The Spurs wanted Batum at #26, and the Blazers wanted Batum at #27. Houston drafts Batum. Portland drafts Arthur. They make the trade. We get screwed.
I’m still waiting for the other shoe to drop. I just can’t get my head around this being the Spurs pick.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
And that big Turk is Omer “Lover”!
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Only 8 more picks until we are up again. Honestly though, that first pick just killed my draft erection.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:02 PM CDT reply actions
I think you jinxed us. Lot talking to the pitcher during a no-hitter. I’m going to sick SiMA on you.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
You are both from the northern wasteland and you were both thinking it. You can’t distance yourself.
For the record, I see SiMA being like the Tex Cobb character in Raising Arizona going after you.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
if someones dropping there must be a reason right? maybe the guy molests little children while smoking dope and wearing a santa cap and only one shoe
Ok, THAT may have been the last good Eddie Murphy movie.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
so logic says we grab either hendrix, Plaisted, or hardin
butttttt…i dont think we’re operating on logic tonight..
any thoughts on what the pick here will be?
by codyunderblood on Jun 26, 2008 10:11 PM CDT reply actions
I’m saying we take Bill Walker or Devon Hardin.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:12 PM CDT reply actions
I really think we could use a Bobby Jones to go with our George Hill.
Also, Ante Tomic
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:13 PM CDT reply actions
There really didn’t seem to be a difference. I’m surprised you keep a picture of Mario Chalmers in your wallet.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
With this next pick by the Jazz, draftexpress has them taking….George Hill
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:14 PM CDT reply actions
goren dragic? thoughts?
What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)
the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post
by Hamer_SpursFan on Jun 26, 2008 10:18 PM CDT reply actions
well goran dragic..
college hoops.net says this
Scouting Report: A big, quick Slovenian point guard often compared to Tony Parker.
by codyunderblood on Jun 26, 2008 10:19 PM CDT reply actions
Powell, you are an animal. Nice call.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:21 PM CDT reply actions
Awesome. A 6’ 3” left-handed Slovenian point guard. Sounds familiar.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:22 PM CDT reply actions
Manolis’ comment on seeing the highlight package of him getting all these steals, “Was he playing against a retard?”
I think Powell just said he is a French Whore Fluffer.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:26 PM CDT reply actions
Tough day at the Home Depot interviewing day laborers?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
that was just once. The other day I interviewed people at a produce market.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it for local produce like a Farmer’s Market? What was the angle? How is NAFTA screwing you over?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the angle was how in god’s name can you get up every day at 2 in the morning.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 26, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Dragic= Udrih
6’4’’ left handed Slovenian PG, havent we already seen that movie?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
The way this draft is going we may have to bust out the rally no-shirts.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:27 PM CDT reply actions
I think I would give us a nice solid ‘A-’ for tonight. I don’t think we have gotten worse.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Not upset about the draft.
I wasn’t looking for help here. As I said the offseason is all about Azuibuike.
ESPN Seemed to think JR Smith
Was gonna sign with the Spurs, good fit in terms of his skills, but the maturity is a question of course, they tried to trade for him a few years ago, so maybe they can handle him
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
I’m with you on this. It’s only 8:30 there.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if Josh Howard is sitting around lighting one up thinking, “I’m going to have to listen to that shit in the locker room”?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Aside from the contracts to Adonal Foyle, Mike Dunleavy, Troy Murphy, and Derek Fisher.
He did a good job of getting rid of them I guess.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m not praying for any man. I used the mute button instead.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:37 PM CDT reply actions
then again… it’s not like we know what’s unfolding in free agency… but this is the only time that we have to actually pick a guy, and not worry about other people throwing money at the, and we’re wasting by taking guys ive never even heard of… here’s hoping the last pick is for Joseph Jones… the guy is good, just lost a step this past season
Damn, Dragijecevic is off the board. I’d been eyeing him.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:41 PM CDT reply actions
Stampler’s cutie pie Chalmers just got traded to Miami
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:43 PM CDT reply actions
Sasha Kaun.
Sasha Kaun.
Damn, just shoot me. I’m making the same joke as Stu Scott.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:46 PM CDT reply actions
anybody else see this?
this may (or may not) explain tonight’s pick
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/06/26/spurs-remain-innovative-spam-the-entire-nba/
by man or pac-man? on Jun 26, 2008 10:47 PM CDT reply actions
C’mon Scrappy, are you telling me you aren’t excited to wear a Spurs Hill or Gist jersey?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 26, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry i missed what read like a semi-entertaining live blog of the draft. but, at the same time i’m not quite sure what to make of a live draft blog…....
if i see the glass half full, i see hill as our perimeter scorer, hairston as an intense competitor that knows how and what to do when he’s on the floor and gist as a banger with some athletic ability who can help our interior defense and rebounding.
i have seen a little of hill and dude can throw it in the goal fo sho. but that was against smaller school opponents with biggest big men at 6-9 and smaller wings checking him. malik hairston is one of my absolute favorite colelge players in the last 5+ years or so. talk about scrappy, this guy is it. but his game is closer to the basket and he is undersized for that in the NBA. i predict that he will be an instant fan fave if he somehow makes the squad. which leads me to…...
if i see the glass half empty, i see three guys who might not even make the squad.
the thing about the spurs draft is that all of us fans hate what they pick – and lately we’ve been right. i’m willing to grant that the organization was far ahead of the league in terms of scouting out talent hiding under rocks, but those days are over. maybe the fact that the spurs ended up with 3 american college players is proof of that. safe to say that our guys weren’t going to add the star stud in the draft anyway, so…...
also
i didnt watch live – or even know much about this until late last night, but….can anyone tell me how mike taylor got in the draft? he was selected near the end of the second round.
he played two year at a junior college and then one at iowa state. he then got dismissed form the team and apparently signed with a team in the NBDL? then he got in the draft? anybody know how that worked? it was just intriguing to see.
nope...
...but i know that he’s the first to get drafted from the D-league
by vy til i die on Jun 27, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Looks like while we were sleeping the Spurs made a move
Spurs traded “Tragic’s” draft rights to the Sons in exchange for Malik Hairston. Thank god. I like Malik’s numbers and he looks like he doesn’t put up with shit.
http://www.nba.com/draft2008/profiles/MalikHairston.html
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
And...
Phx also gave us a second-round pick in 2009 and cash considerations for Tragic.
Here is a look at our new guys.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
You are such an ass! Next year we are going to make you go to the internet cafe, the one you watched the playoff games from, for the draft so that we get better mojo.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jun 27, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
George Hill
Check out Spurs Newest Draft Pick George Hill here www.dopecouture.com.
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