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Spain and Dutch impress, Italy and Greece not so much

Hey everyone. Really too busy to post game recaps anymore and they weren't getting many responses anyway, but I thought I'd write a little something since everyone has now played a game.

Eight matches in and what have we learned?

The Netherlands are perhaps far more dangerous than we could have imagined and the Italians transition defense can be had.

Spain possesses the most dangerous, skillful and deep attack in Europe but still have their issues in the back.

Portugal and Germany are what we thought they were. Sadly, most of the lesser teams are what we thought they were as well.

France (as was the case in World Cup '02) are going to struggle mightily for goals without Zizou and hierry Henry.

Romania wasn't very interested in scoring and Greece's approach against Sweden was a disgrace, the epitome of every awful soccer stereotype and a classic example of why so many Americans are turned off by the sport.

France 0, Romania 0

With Zinedine Zidane retired, and Henry injured, (not to mention Patrick Vieira) Franced looked for goals from Nicolas Anelka and Karim Benzema and neither were up to the task on this day. They had a few chances, and both of them should've put at least one away, but I don't know if you can argue that they deserved to win. Their attack wasn't consistent enough and Frank Ribery was their only midfielder worth a crap.

Netherlands 3, Italy 0

I don't think Italy was nearly as bad as the scoreline indicates. On offense they had plenty of chances and missed out on scoring due to some stellar work from Dutch goalie Edwin Van der Saar and a whole lot of fucktardishness from Italian forward Luca Toni. Andrea Pirlo was as dangerous as ever on his free kicks and almost scored. Of all the teams that were shut out in their first game the Italians clearly showed the best attack and really it was better stuff than Croatia and the Czech Republic managed in wins as well.

They were done in by a early goal from Ruud van Nistelrooy that shouldn't have been allowed and two masterful counterattack strikes that were created mainly to the tireless Giovanni Van Bronckhorst. Dirk Kuyt assisted on both with headers, the first volleyed spectacularly by Wesley Sneijder and the second by Van Bronckhorst, whose defensive play started both breaks.

Spain 4, Russia 1

A hat trick for David Villa and he could've had five. That's how lethal Spain's offense was, continually carving up the Russians and finding wide open gaps in their back. Their midfield quartet of Xavi, Marcos Senna, David Silva, and Andrés Iniesta always had the ball and were pushing it hard upfield every change of possession. Spain has so much quality that they could afford to leave Xabi Alonso and Cesc Fábregas on the bench (though the latter shouldn't have been, he was stellar from the second he entered the game as a sub, assisting on the third goal and scoring the fourth).

The Russians had a few quality looks at goal and really could've scored three themselves, but were alternately hesitant, unsure and unlucky with their final touches. Spain's backline left much to be desired and I question how they'll fare against Italy or Holland in the quarters if they go on like this.

Sweden 2, Greece 0

A frustrating, atrocious show for the first two thirds. Greece's game plan seemed to be to make Sweden come out and press them so they could exploit the gaps left behind. Only the Swedes refused to take the bait and it was as if they were saying, "We know we're the more talented team, we're not going to do anything stupid, and we're going to make you dribble and pass it around us."

As a consequence Greece spent the majority of the game passing it back and forth among themselves in their own third, with no one in a yellow jersey around them, and had their own fans booing and the announcers groaning. It was a pathetic display.

Finally, in the 67th minute Sweden took the initiative and Zlatan Ibrahimovic broke out of his national team slump with a fantastic strike, set up on the one-two with Henrik Larsson. Give Ibrahimovic credit, he called his shot. He implored his coach to recall Larsson on the team and said that he would score if he played alongside the ancient forward, and he did. The second goal, five minutes later, was ugly and shouldn't have been allowed as I thought Petter Hansson fouled his marker before he even got his first shot off.

Your starting XI thus far

G: Edwin Van der Saar - Netherlands. Several good saves against an Italian side hellbent for goals.

LB: Giovanni Van Bronckhorst - Netherlands. A great clear off his line saved a goal and his subsequent run out and cross on the break created one. Scored the third on a header for good measure.

CB: Pepe - Portugal. Scored the game winner against the Turks and had another disallowed. Did a nice job keeping Nihat Kahveci at bay as well.

CB: Tomáš Ujfaluši - Czech Republic. The Czech captain patrolled his box and engaged in several seek-and-destroy missions battling the inspired Swiss.

RB: Philipp Lahm - Germany. His quadrant was never tested by the Poles while he was relentlessly taking on defenders down the right flank.

LM: Lukas Podolski - Germany. Cheating a bit here as he's really a forward, but Germany started him as a left midfielder against Poland. Podolski scored two goals where his only challenger for the spot, Portugal's Cristiano Ronaldo, could've bagged a pair himself.

CM: Xavi - Spain. One assist and a lot of dangerous other passes from the Iberian in their dismantling of the Russians.

CM: Rafael van der Vaart - Netherlands. Played a part in all three goals and constantly had the ball for the Dutch.

RM: Frank Ribery - France. So many candidates here. Clemens Fritz and Bastian Schweinsteiger of Germany both didn't play enough. Spain's Iniesta, Libor Sionko of the Czechs, Darijo Srna of the Croats and Wojciech Łobodziński of the Poles all merit consideration. In the end I went with Ribery as he was France's best player. He could've used The Wee Rapping Frenchman as a forward, for sure.

LF: David Villa - Spain. A hat trick, scoring one from the left, one from the middle and one from the right. What else can you say?

RF: Zlatan Ibrahimovic - Sweden. The game winning goal against the impregnable Greek defense and he almost had one earlier on a flick header. Every time he touches it, you think something will happen.

Today, I'm in the unenviable position of having to root for the Portuguese (if the Czechs win, Turkey is basically fucked) and have to pull for my homies to somehow, someway win a road game in Switzerland with seemingly their entire starting eleven injured. How we'll score on them, I have no idea.

 

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Stamp, you are killing it dude. I don’t really follow soccer, but after reading your blogposts I’ve been paying more attention.

I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor

by DennardC on Jun 11, 2008 12:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another great post!

Happy and surprised to have found such great euro 2008 coverage on this basketball blog. Keep up the good work!

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by odacrem on Jun 11, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How in the World did DeRossi not play?

That was insane, hes better than Gatuso at this point in their careers.

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jun 11, 2008 5:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

Ok, maybe I don’t like De Rossi, but Gattuso plays harder and seems to care a lot more than everybody else, and can be better, much better than what he showed against the Dutch, even at this stage of his career.

Also, I know this happened 2 years ago, but I’ve not forgotten, nor forgiven, De Rossi getting ejected from the World Cup game against USA for elbowing an opponent.

Form is emptiness

by Kalkin on Jun 11, 2008 9:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good Luck on Sunday, Michael

I hope your team beats the Czechs!

By the way, why all the fanfare about Ronaldo? Isn’t he the same guy who hasn’t made a goal in like 8 months or something?

I am happy. I am proud. - Manu Ginobili

by bellasa on Jun 11, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the comment above me could be SPAM.

Anyway, I disagree with your take on the first Dutch goal, I don’ t know if you’ve read the article, but here is a link to the story. I think the official is correct in saying that the rule cannot be changed because a player could use step off the pitch in order to put someone offsides. Barring that, I am certain that we would see, at some point, a defensive player fake an injury and go off the pitch in order to put someone offside. It’s hard to believe that a football player would do something like that, but it would probably be an Italian. Maybe a Brazilian.

Also, loved the end of the Turkey-Switzerland match last night. When that goal went in I actually thought of you. Hope you enjoyed it.

I'm comfortable winning -- Emmanuel Ginobili

by pollackj on Jun 12, 2008 1:15 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When I saw the ball go in I screamed so loud that I scared the hell out of a couple eating lunch. At the other end of the restaurant. Through a soundproof glass window.

Some weird thing about soccer, or patriotism or whatever, but that was as excited I’ve been in a very long time, maybe ever.

by Aaronstampler on Jun 12, 2008 2:43 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry, but I have to disagree

Mainly because I don’t like the word “interpretation”: the rule doesn’t say anything about this situation (check it here), so I say it might be time to make the rule a little bit clearer.

The fact is, several people have been caught off guard by this episode, and I’m not talking about me and my Italian friends, I’m talking about Scolari, Loew, Italy hater and archnemesis Domenech and the very same Ruud Van Nistelrooy, guys that have been living on football for quite a long time.

If this is about interpretation, I’ll give you mine: Panucci didn’t step out of the pitch on purpose to place RVN in offside position; in fact, he was pushed out and hit by Buffon. What did he do, after that? Well, he stayed there, motionless, for about 2-3 seconds, before the “assist” for Van Nistelrooy’s goal. In this situation, I find it difficult to say that “his position was still relevant for the purposes of the offside law”: he was not playing at the moment and was on the grass about 2 metres out of the field; he was not even watching the play, because he’d been hit on his face.

Form is emptiness

by Kalkin on Jun 12, 2008 5:24 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not a huge soccer fan...

...but I think the offside rule is interpreted too strictly. Too often you see a goal disallowed because some part of the offensive player was a few inches behind the penultimate defender. I understand that without offsides, you might have some weird sport where everyone congregated at the goals and they just punt the ball back and forth (although basketball does fine without offsides).

However, the strictness of the rule provokes several undesirable (to my mind) outcomes:
1. If the player with the ball gets behind the second to last defender, he can’t pass to another player on his team who is also behind all the defenders. This strikes me as really dumb.
2. You get this dumb little dance where the defenders inch up and the strikers edge back, then someone kicks a long ball and the striker takes off after it while the defenders raise their hands in unison to beg for a call, which they usually get. Just run back and play defense!
3. Strikers can’t be as aggressive breaking after long passes lest they be leaning a fraction offside.
4. Too much breath and ink is wasted arguing about whether a player was offside by an inch on a goal.

If it were up to me (which obviously it is not), I would amend the rule such that if any part of the offensive player is even with the defender, he would be considered onside. Furthermore, the benefit of the doubt should go to the offensive player.

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by tomasito on Jun 12, 2008 10:23 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

P.S.

I enjoy Stampler’s writing on Euro footie as well as on our Spurs. I hope you don’t forget us when you go on to bigger and better things!

Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!

by tomasito on Jun 12, 2008 10:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

exactly tomasito.

This is what I’ve been saying for years. Make it like hockey. If it’s close, give it to the offense. What is wrong with some scoring? Make people play some D.

Also, in hockey you get a penalty and your guy is out for 2 minutes (1/30th of the game). Why not do the same in soccer? You foul somebody and you have to be on the sidelines for 3 minutes (1/30th of the game).

11 on 10, not a big deal. But you foul again? 11 on 9. Might get interesting…

by Aaronstampler on Jun 12, 2008 11:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’re partially wrong on no. 1: for a player to be in offside position, he has to be closer to the goal line than both the ball and the second last defender.

This means that, as long as a player is at least on line with the ball at the time of the pass, he can’t be called for offside, regardless of him being behind the second last defender or not. In fact, this is just what happened on Portugal’s last goal, yesterday.

Form is emptiness

by Kalkin on Jun 12, 2008 11:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey now! “Partially Wrong” is a little harsh. I was just being lazy about not typing the full rule :-) That said, why should it matter where the second guy is if both players are behind all the defenders (except the goalie)?

Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!

by tomasito on Jun 12, 2008 12:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess it’s because, theoretically, you could have a player dribbling his way past defenders 3 metres past midfield and another one waiting for the ball much closer to the goal, which would give him a somewhat unfair advantage by just staying there and not having to run.

You probably know that there are variations to the game of football with less players (either 7 or 5, usually) and the dimensions of the field varying accordingly. In these variations you don’t have offside, because it wouldn’t give you much of an advantage, provided the reduced dimensions of the pitch.

But when you play 11 against 11, as you pointed out, the whole offside rule is designed to prevent weird, unfair situations for happening, and even if questionable offsides get called all the times, I’d say the rule works in that sense.

As for the change to the rule that you suggested, I understand your point of view, but I think that trying to play a player offside is just good strategy like, say, intentionally fouling somebody to prevent him from scoring an easy basket, and I feel a change of the rule might penalize defenses too much.

I have to admit I do appreciate “strategy” stuff, in football, in basketball, and in any other sport, because, even if it makes the game slower and harder to watch for the casual fan, it obliges players to use their brain a little bit more.

Form is emptiness

by Kalkin on Jun 12, 2008 1:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Stampy, why don’t you write after every round of games? Then do a quarter, a semi, and a final. Something like that.

I completely dig the recaps and breakdowns. I haven’t commented, I was on vacation, but I have browsed through most of everything to catch up with the tourney. And I’m not even a soccer fan. I am pissed, however, that my adopted team - Los Krautsies - lost today. It seemed from the commentary that I followed on espn that they got the short end of some big calls.

by AusTechSpur on Jun 13, 2008 12:13 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The refs didn’t have a great night, for sure, but Germany’s defense sucked, and that’s why they lost. Croatia had clearly the best chances to score, and it’s not like they stopped playing after their second goal. They were just better, yesterday.

Germany’s still very likely to be the second team in the group to advance to the next round, they just need a win against Austria, which shouldn’t be too difficult for them.

Form is emptiness

by Kalkin on Jun 13, 2008 4:23 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But the big challenge

for Germany is that they will most likely face Portugal in the knock-out stage…

by 4Him on Jun 13, 2008 11:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

I’d like to see more of Stampler’s takes on the games, especially the Dutch pasting of Les Blues yesterday. Van der Saar may be the key to this tournament. The Dutch gave up a lot of scoring chances yesterday, but because of some French ineptitude and some great goal-keeping, it looked like a blowout.

I'm comfortable winning -- Emmanuel Ginobili

by pollackj on Jun 14, 2008 8:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good writing

Aaron—I’m enjoying your thoughts on Euro 2008!
Feel free to visit us over at www.globalfutbol.com some time!

by Left Midfield on Jun 13, 2008 10:37 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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