Spurs face first must win of the season
by sungo on May 7, 2008 8:54 PM CDT
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PrintPtR member AusTechSpur already submitted a game thread and his thoughts are definitely worth reading. I disagree, however, with two things he wrote.
First, I think the officiating has only slightly favored the Hornets, no where near to the point where it's even worth mentioning.
Second, I think we should go under the screen and roll against Paul. It's how we handled him the first half of game 1, which also happened to be our best half of the series. Paul's a decent, but not deadly, 3P shooter (36.9%). More importantly, he plays with the penetrate and dish mentality. He doesn't look to shoot the outside jumper. I'm not saying he can' t make that shot, but it's not how their offense works, and I'm all for taking them out of their offense. All those highlight reel alley-oops? They're off the pick and roll. Going under the screen prevents the "roll" from being a factor. Also, this has the added benefit of preventing Tim from having to guard the pick and roll. If Tim has a defensive weakness, that's it.
Bowen, of course, has to guard Peja. I doubt Pop will start the game this way due to his world PtR renowned stubborn streak. Like I said before the series started, Bowen needs to "decimate the fragile psyche of Peja Stojakovic. That should take about, I don't know, two and a half quarters." I'm reminded of the Detroit series of 2005, when the entire sports world knew Bowen should be guarding Billups, and yet Pop waited until the fourth quarter to unleash the hounds. Nearly gave me a blood clot.
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I don’t see even stubborn old Pop keeping Bowen on CFlop3. He has to realize by now that plan was a failure. I don’t think he changed it up before game 2 because he really did want to force that square peg through a round hole, and he didn’t want to change strategy without even taking a practice. However, like you Pop knows game 3 is a must win. He has had plenty of time to make adjustments, and he simply will not sit idly by and let Peja Stojakovich, a fellow slav who he has owned in the past, beat him with wide open looks and unimpeded layups.
Good point on going under the screen. You know Pop hates to do that, but he might make that adjustment as well.
if he is smart, which he allegedy is, he will keep bowen on paul. putting bowen on peja will only effectively take out the number three scoring option for the hornets, while using up spurs number one defender. it doesnt make sense, it still doesnt resolve the problem of chris paul, david west or morris peterson.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
in other words
i would think it would make more sense to have brent barry start the game, marking stojokavic. put bowen on peterson and have parker on chris paul. barry can shoot as well as finley and can defend and pass more effectively. bowen could come off of peterson for double teams on west or chandler, forcing peterson to beat you from outside as opposed to peja, and parker, well, he couldnt do much worse on paul than bowen did.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
That’s a very idiotic plan, and shows that you have yet again not been reading posts or paying attention to the games.
Let me give it to you in bullet points so that hopefully they will penetrate your skull:
- Peja has been the number 2 scorer for the Hornets in this series
- Cutting his scoring down to the levels he normally scores against the Bowen would save us over 10 points and give the Hornets more than a few more missed shots
- That amount alone would be enough to keep the games close at the end
- Starting Barry is fine (and requested by many of us including me), but we want him on Mo Pete, a guy who is really not that hard to defend for someone of similar size.
- The point of putting Parker on Paul was clearly copied from one of my posts, so something is sinking in.
- Chandler never merits a double team, Manu or Barry can effectively double West off of their man
you are right
even if it does work, how does saving 10 points off of a 19 or 18 point loss, keep it close? are you searching for a moral victory?
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
10 points plus more than a few more missed shots = more shots for the Spurs provided they rebound = close game = score not run up in garbage time. You really need to pay attention.
And that is just from that one adjustment alone. Peterson will go back to shooting his regular percentage when he doesn’t have a small guad on him.
back to a disagreement we already had, peja is only the number 2 scorer this series only because of the shit defending by the spurs. he is, and should be, the third option for the hornets on offense. to put your number one shut down guy on someone that is essentially an escape valve is essentially opening the floodgates for chris paul and david west. oh let me guess was bowen guarding stojakovic when he spurs were blown out by 24 at home in the regular season?
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
It is irrelevant that Bowen is the number 1 shutdown guy. He is a small forward and he mostly guards wing players (a guy like Nash is the exception). Clearly he is not doing any better than Parker could on Paul so he is wasted there. No way will he guard West straight up. That is asinine. Also, other players can double team almost as well as Bowen.
You say that Peja is the number two scorer only because of the shit defense, I agreee. That’s why they need to put Bowen on him and put him back in his place. Keeping a small player like Manu, or a helpless one on one defender like Finley on Peja will allow him to keep lighting us up.
Putting him on Mo Pete, a player that a trained monkey could guard as long as he was 6’5”+ is a complete waste.
Bowen guarded Peja in all 4 regular season games and held him to an 11 points average.
It is great that we now have Thomas to throw at West.
so bowen guarded stojakovic in the 24 point blowout in san antonio in the regular season? sounds like a recipe for success. i like that you have kurt thomas also.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I’ll take 1 good game by Peja in maybe 20, as opposed to having him play well every night (as he will against Finley).
bowen did a great job in this game too http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=280126024
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
That was the one game we were talking about. What do you mean by “too?” In the other 3 games he did not fare so well against Bowen. That’s why he averaged only 11 points, even factoring in the blowout loss at home.
I can't explain it but...
I feel great about this game. The time off has allowed the Spurs to rest, make adjustments, watch film, practice and most importantly… sleep in their own beds. Thank you schedule makers… after tomorrow’s game, we won’t play again until Sunday night. I’ll take another 2 days rest anyday.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
i can explain it
its called being a groupie. like those chicks that want to bang bret michaels on vh1, only sadder.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
It's time to face the facts
As a loyal fan, it pains me to say this series is 2001 Lakers/Spurs all over again except the Spurs were favored in this series. In four out of six games this year, the Hornets have destroyed San Antonio. I think it’s safe to assume that the Hornets have figured out the Spurs and there are no defensive adjustments the Spurs can make to counter. Your passion is compelling, inspiring even, but I’ve resigned myself to thinking what kind of boner off-season transactions S.A. will make (I’d like to see them sign J.J. Redick, but I’m expecting along the lines of Marc Jackson coming out of retirement for a 1 year deal).
re: redick
if he doesn’t get PT in orlando for not playing D, then what makes you think he’ll even be allowed on the court w/ the Spurs?
by vy til i die on May 8, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
a valid point
and he went to duke. duke sucks.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
If the Magic bench Redick for not playing D, then he’s their scapegoat. No one outside of Howard plays anything resembling defense. For once though, I would like our coaching staff to consider that, maybe, it’s important to have role players whose first strength is scoring. Individual lock-down defenders aren’t what the Spurs need for defense anyway.
by Jason Roberts on May 8, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
an even better point.
i thnk the magic will pull that series out, at the very least make it competitive. they were there or there abouts in game 1 (until howard injured himself) and should have won game 2, if it werent for turkoglu shooting like bruce bowen with 40 seconds left, they might have. regardless, reddick is a dead eye shooter, and the spurs could sure use more one of those. hi defensive defficiencies are a little over stated, and could be looked past. like tony parker’s or gennobolly’s.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Why?
Do newbies feel the need to come here and share their pessimism with us? Do you think it benefits the site? If you are so certain that it’s over, why not wait until after the series? Or does a prediction of demise that comes true make you feel better about yourself?
Oh no they won 2 games this must be the apocalypse!! There are no defensive adjustments to make? really? Have you gone through every potential one with your NBA coaching genius to figure that out?
Actually
it’s 4 games out of 6 or 66% of the time and each time has been a blowout. I don’t think that’s a genius observation, but I appreciate the compliment.
by Jason Roberts on May 8, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
prediction
spurs lose in 5. and man, you are right, it does make me feel better. spurs can take satisfaction that, just like the mavs, you will win game 3 against the hornets.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Spare me the psycho-babble bullshit
Obviously you’re the one with the need to feel better about yourself since you’re nerves are rattled if anyone dare shares “pessimism.” I guess only fans who mimic the official stance of the optimistic politiburo are allowed to comment. Whatever. But go ahead, just wish good things and share your positive energy and it’ll come true.
by Jason Roberts on May 8, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Ok I will
Allright I sure will. I personally enjoy being a Spurs fan because I enjoy cheering for the Spurs, believing they will win and are better than the other guys, etc. If I think my team (or another team) is bad or is going to lose, I don’t go to a board for that team and start telling all their fans that. Why would I? If they lose, then they lose. It’s not as if you’re jumping ship makes for interesting or enlightening conversation.
i wont!
spurs have nothing positive to hang their hat on in this series, so you revert to past glories. seriously, what positives can you come out of the first two games. the only thing you have to hope for is a prayer that your home court , MIGHT bring about a win. wow, the spurs, the champions, hoping to eke out a home court win.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m not trying to promote interesting or enlightening conversation. Cheering for a team is not interesting or enlightening and any pretense of it being so is foolish. I hope I’m wrong about my opinion, but I’m not deceiving myself into thinking the Spurs can win this series or the title. I’m not trying to win anyone to my side either. But, c’mon. The “if-you-can’t-say-something-nice, then-don’t-say-it-all” treacle should be ditched.
by Jason Roberts on May 8, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
you are single handedly destroying my stereotype of spurs fans. thanks.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Why do you cheer?
I’m not trying to be an ass here, well not to you. I do try to be one occasionally.
You said that cheering for a team is not interesting or enlightening. What is the point of cheering for a team? I do it because it is interesting, it makes a sport that I love that much more interesting because I have emotional interest in it as well. I spend (too much) time on sports message boards because I find that I learn things about basketball, about the Spurs, and sometimes about other subjects (thought usually not important subjects, at least on PTR).
I just don’t understand what pleasure you derive from saying that it’s over when we still have at least two more games to play. I’m not saying you should be banned or shouldn’t be allowed to say it, I just don’t know why you want to.
Why I Cheer
I cheer for the Spurs because it ties me in to the community, especially now more so since I live in the Bay Area (and Boston the past year). I cheer for the Spurs because in my youth, they were the first people I knew who professionally exhibited competition and sportsmanship, which are indispensible traits for succeeding as an adult (I think the late sociologist Christopher Lasch had some erudite observations on sports in his book, The Culture of Narcissism). And now I cheer for them because it’s just damn fun to watch well-executed, yet unpredictable basketball.
Believe me, I get no pleasure from saying I think they’re going to lose—swept even. Nor am I trying to get pleasure or need confirmation of my opinion by convincing others or finding others who agree with me. Vocalizing or writing my thoughts helps me decide whether they’re justified or not; sometimes it’s good to speak before you think as long as you’re willing to admit you’re wrong, which I am.
by Jason Roberts on May 8, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Defense
Agree with the defensive adjustments. I still think it’s our defense that is killing us. Most important: once Paul turns the corner on the pick and roll, we are dead. Virtually every time he turns that corner, they get something good out of it. That’s where our focus needs to be.
Now I don’t have a DVR (need to invest!!) but I was looking at the screen and roll while watching Game 2 and it seemed like we were going under it quite a bit already (over 50% of the time, I would say). But again, I don’t have a DVR so maybe someone can confirm my insanity.
I think taking Peja out would be a nice move. So let’s put Bruce on him. Though after a day of careful consideration, I have wavered on starting Brent and I’m thinking it would be better to have him come off the bench with Ginobili. Maybe it will give Gino more room to operate and either one of those guys can slash off the ball.
Allez Spurs!
I agree with you 100%. CP turning the corner = death. I’d rather take the chance of CP making jumpers than him becoming a playmaker and getting the entire team involved and boosting their confidence.
And if I see Peja blow by Manu on a drive again, i think i’m going to shoot myself.
jeez
talk about morbid. ginoblee is on the decline, but dear god man, dont shoot yourself. just take a bath with the toaster.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
more whining about calls not going your way?
are you kidding me? please enlighten me, what calls didnt go your way? complaining about calls not going your way is the lowest denominator. you sound like suns fans after last years spurs-suns series whining about calls. only they had a legitimate complaint. grow up. championship teams dont boo-hoo over the whistle not being blown, theygo out and win the game. quit making excuses and just accept that your team is good, but just not good enough.
I think the calls were fairly even, home court advantage usually turns one or two but that’s nothing new. If anything, the Hornets got a few more calls because they were actually taking the ball to the rim instead of settling for 20 footers out on the perimeter.
Props to the Hornets for being aggressive and making us look discombobulated on D.
Allez Spurs!
that!
that would have been a legitiamate statement for the body of this post we are talking about. giving credit where credit is due. not a backhanded complaint about the officiating, but the reason for it.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
You are a moron!
Where did someone whine about calls in this post. Reread the article above, especially this part.
“First, I think the officiating has only slightly favored the Hornets, no where near to the point where it’s even worth mentioning.”
Dumbass.
ha
if it is no where to the point of mentioning it, why mention it? especially as the first point in the article? wouldnt it be easier ot just, not mention it?
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
your opinion is bullshit, null and void. fucking tottenham hotspur supporter, good for you, you poof.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Dammit. Owned again.
I just can’t respond to that kind of reasoned and well-articulated argument. I mean, insults that refer to my sexual orientation and my choice of football club. Really, it hurts me to the bone.
re: dumbass
championship teams dont boo-hoo over the whistle not being blown, theygo out and win the game....and how many championships have your hornets won that justify your claim? again, no one was complaining here, it was mentioned IMO because he probably didn’t want to use that as an excuse
...btw..i’m guessing the hornets don’t have a site for you to post on, since your screenname was directed toward our site?
by vy til i die on May 8, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
re: screen name
i have always disliked jinobly as a player. prior to this series even. and i dont know if there is a hornets site. if there is, its probably a bunch of dorks, only talking about how awesome the hornets are instead of the spurs. and if getting a site like this is the result of 4 “chips” then i hope the hornets lose.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
re: championships
the hornets have won 0 championships. the same number as the spurs had until they tanked it in order to be in the position to draft tim duncan in the late mid nineties. looks like tanking it that season paid off.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
GS did you see that Lakers-Jazz game last night? If you talking about a team has beef call disparity, look at the Jazz. Good grief, I counted at least 3 times where Deron Williams got smacked on the arm. Milsap got hit a couple of times. What made it even worse was David Stern was at the game. It’s almost like he was there to make sure they got jobbed.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
i passed out in the first quarter, so all i saw was the box score, but man the lakers put it to them. and deron willimas is one weird looking guy. and kirolenko. and boozer. boozer looks like a character from GTA 3. that is one team of weird looking dudes.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it has been great how even though the Spurs have been hometowned and ring of fired, they just accept is as life on the road in the playoffs. You won’t read Spurs coaches and players whining to the press to sway the officials in the next game (as Shaq, Nash, D’Antoni, AJ, Nowitzki, Howard, Terry, Stackhouse, and Byron Scott have all done profusely in the past). You will also rarely read Spurs fans complain about it. Like the Spurs organization they accept it and move on.
haha at the “ring of fired”. obviously it is dirty tactics through out the organization, right down to the hornets mascot. even your own mr congeniality, “pop,” opined that it wasnt an advantage because both teams went through the same delay, and same court conditions.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly, Pop won’t complain about that, even though it was obviously an advantage because the Spurs were on a run and they are the older team. I am not sure if you ever played any sports (my guess is no) but having to warm up after what were essentially 2 halftimes is harder the older you get.
tell me about it, gramps. anyway, i am not sure if yo uever read what you write (my guess is no) but whining about a delay or floor conditions comes across as essentially being a little bit of a nancy. how does the saying go, it is the poor carpenter that blames his tools?
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW, I don’t think the hometowning or the ring of fire caused the Spurs to lose. They were just factors that many other coaches, including Byron Scott, would have complained about to the media, in the hopes that it swayed the officials.
the only person i have heard complaining about it is you, and maybe reggie miller during the broadcast. congrats. that is some elite company.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s not my fault I needed to explain something to someone with no understanding of the game.
Kudos to the Spurs for not complaining about something that most other teams would have whined about..
i understand th game just fine. if you score more points than the other team, your team wins! you should tell that to poppovich.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Must win indeed, but I think I've seen this movie...
I’m looking forward to a good game tonight. Hopefully the Black & Silver prevail. Though this series kind of reminds me of a series I saw in the past where the younger, hungrier team kicks the older more established team’s ass. The year is 1990, 2nd round. The Lakers were 63-19 during the regular season, coming off 3 straight NBA Finals appearances, winning 2 of them. They faced the upstart Phoenix Suns, lead by a force of nature PG(Kevin Johnson) and a formidable, underrated PF(Tom Chambers). The Lakers are heavily favored, due to having vets with championship skins on the wall. Guys like Magic Johnson, James Worthy, Byron Scott, A.C. Green and a coach with 4 rings himself, Pat Riley. The Lakers were still the “Showtime Lakers” to the casual fan, but in reality they were getting older. With guys like Mychal Thompson, Larry Drew, and Michael Cooper in the rotation, cracks in the foundation are showing and the Suns played at a pace faster pace than the Lakers. The Suns have been slept on by the casual fan. The series starts of with a split. The Suns shock the Lakers in game 1, winning 104-102. The Lakers win game 2 going away winning 124 to 103. Order restored right? Hell to the naw. Phoenix sweep the next 3, running the Lakers off the floor in games 3 and 4. 117-103 and 114-101, respectively. They then gut out a series clinching W in LA, winning 104-102. Obviously this series hasn’t exactly followed the same script, but there are some similiarities. A team lead by a force of nature PG(Chris Paul) and a formidable, underrated PF(David West) against a team that has won 2 of the last three championship. Even the casual fan knows that the Spurs are older than hell, but the Hornets have been slept on. Maybe the parallels end here, right?
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
uh oh
sounds like a little bit of damage control. the parrallels also ended when you compared the showtime lakers to the current spurs. you see, showtime, was fun to watch. hack a shaq and ginobly flopping, are boring to watch.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Right......
I’m not comparing the teams based on the style of play necessarily, but I’m just basing it on the round that the series is occuring, championship history, etc. Not that I would expect you to understand something like that. And what damage control are you referring to? I’m just giving an opinion, I mean if the Spurs lose the series, I won’t like it. If they win the series, I’ll be good with that, but I have more important shit going on in my life to worry about than basketball. Like I stated yesterday, I’m just here to talk hoops with my fellow hoop heads.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
The slippery floor in the 1st half had nothing to do with the ass-whooping the Spurs took in game 1. The Hornets just laid the smack down. The calls weren’t that favorable for the Hornets in either game as well. They just kicked the Spurs collective asses. Any of the players would tell you the same. That’s all a moot point now, the Spurs have to just try to play better. Shoot better, play better D, and hit the boards harder. If they lose, they lose, but they have to play with more intensity.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
I’m not comparing the teams based on the style of play necessarily, but I’m just basing it on the round that the series is occuring, championship history, etc. Not that I would expect you to understand something like that. And what damage control are you referring to? I’m just giving an opinion, I mean if the Spurs lose the series, I won’t like it. If they win the series, I’ll be good with that, but I have more important shit going on in my life to worry about than basketball. Like I stated yesterday, I’m just here to talk hoops with my fellow hoop heads.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
to go back to what matthew originally wrote:
no, the officiating hasnt really favored anyone. NOOCH has gooten a few more whistles because they have been the aggressor. they’ve earned everything they got. we of PtR need to quit going the way of the suns on this. BIG TIME.
yes, go under the pick on paul. no sense is going over the top and letting him do what he does best. play him like everyone else plays parker. go over the screens on guys like mo pete and peja who want to shoot the jumper.
as for the new guys? whatever. if this site will all the sudden become popular with outsiders when the spurs are losing, then i say: GOOD. what good is it being the king if you cant take a few stones getting thrown at you. we’re the target. its not like a bunch of spurs fans will sit around and rejoice when Team A loses. but you can bet there will be a BUNCH of folks happy to see the spurs castle crumble, but you know what? its good to be the king. insert smart ass line about 4 chips here and do remember that it takes 4 win to advance. not 2.
as a new guy
let me suggest this reading. except any where in the blog there is the word suns, just substitute spurs. and anywhere there is the word spurs just substitute hornets. i think you will find it relevant and entertaining. http://www.poundingtherock.com/2008/4/24/460212/suns-grab-another-moral-vi
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you have a job?
Why do you have so much free time to vandalize other team’s fans blogs? I mean, I just have time to check in a few minutes at a time while the bossman isn’t looking (can I call a manager at a software company a “bossman?”).
Look, we get it: you think Ginobili is a flopper, and the Spurs are boring and old, and their 4 rings don’t mean jack today, and Chris Paul is the second coming, etc. etc. As Spurs fans, we’re hoping the our guys follow the script of the 1995 Rockets, defending champs who got pasted on the road twice only to come back and win the series against a seemingly invincible Phx. Of course, we all realize that that might not happen, but we like to chat with other Spurs fans about the possibilities, vent our frustrations, etc.
You are acting like a jackass: your sole purpose is to try to ruin the online community at PtR. You’re like the annoying guy (Michael Scott from the Office comes to mind) who shows up at a party and immediately deflates the room, but in his own mind is the life of the party. It makes it worse that it’s online because if it were in real life, I’d ask to “escort” you off the premises.
I’m sorry there is no Hornets site for you to go to. Maybe you should start one?
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
yeah i work. boring desk job. next week looks like it might be busier so i wont be around a much to blog it up with spurs fans. yes ginoblee is a flopper. yes i am acting like a jackass. but no more so than spurs fans do to suns fans. the british office is way funnier than the american office, you should check it out. and a hornets site would be way dull.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
By the way...
Mr. GS, as a casual observer you probably don’t understand why Spurs fans like Manu so much. You’ve probably seen the soundbites and read the columns about his bald spot and his flopping, and don’t realize how good he is.
Fact is, he’s been a cold-blooded assassin on the court for the Spurs. He’s the kind of guy who in a tight fourth quarter on the road will keep taking it to the basket, and the other team will “knock him down to send a message,” and he keep piling up the points, and suddenly he’s scored 15 in the fourth to lead the Spurs to victory (and off the court under a hail of thrown drinks). He’s the wing guy that David Robinson didn’t have to score points for him in the fourth quarter of big games. He’s the reason that Tim Duncan has four titles, and not one or two.
He doesn’t care if you knock him down, or trash talk him, all he cares about is winning. And you can’t argue with his record. Everywhere he’s been, his teams have won. Olympic gold. Euroleague championship. 3 NBA Championships in 5 years. He’s a winner, plain and simple. I could see you disliking his style of play, but to declare that he “sucks” is simply ignorance.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
thanks for the exxagerations!
ginoblee is a garbage player. a less talented sean elliot.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Does your computer at your boring desk job have a spell checker?
FYI, exaggeration has one x and two g’s.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
no spell check.
that is how we save on the overhead and cut costs. that and we give shitty service. i’ll be sure to pass on to the boss my apparent lack of respect for the letter x specifically and spelling in general. i appreciate your care and concern.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
That was kind of a cheap shot...
...to call out your spelling. You’re right, my bad. I’m a bit of a grammar snob. The real issue with your post was the nonsensical rebuttal. If you had said something like “a less talented John Havlicek,” that would be a starting point for discussion. You did make me chuckle, though, so score one for you.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
GS, who are you the other players you have irrational disdain for?
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
dirk nowitstki, jason kidd, delonte west (mainly because he is weird looking), kenyon martin, greg ostertag, karl malone and —gasp-david robinson. although, none of them suck as hard as ginable.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I usually don't post...
I like to read and digest what PtR bloggers write cause it’s the best (intelligent, open-minded, introspective) sports blog on the web.
Could we please get back to Game 3 and ignore GS? He’s a Sun’s fan. Thats all we need to know and it explains everything about him and his comments.
I’m missing out on some quality opinions/knowledge on Game 3 and the rest of this SPURS/HORNETS series (i.e. Bruce guarding Peja, going under the pick, Brent starting in place of FinDog etc.)
"Phil can kiss my asterisk"
haha
is that all it takes, one reference to retiring to scottsdale in a few years and i am labeled a suns fan. you can always re read old posts like this one for the intelligent insight you crave http://www.poundingtherock.com/2008/5/5/473323/the-spurs-stink
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
but
back to what you were saying, bruce guarding peja is a bad idea. going under picks will just allow paul to shoot jumpers. brent barry starting is a good call, but i would mark him on peja instead of bowen.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
why the f*K would the Spurs put Barry on Peja rather than Bruce? Are you really that stupid?
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 4:40 PM CDT reply actions
because, in my opinion, it would just take someone with dedication to deny peja the ball, someone to cloak him through out the game. finley & genobly have shown they dont have that dedication (see games 1 & 2). so the next logical is to find someone who does. te easy answer is bruce bowen, but i think you would be wasting his talents on stojakovic who is essentially a spot up shooter. bowen’s talents would be better served on morris peterson (him going 5-5 was more of a problem for the spurs i think than peja scoring 22) because of the problem he presented tony parker. if you concede that paul is going to get his points then why not use parker on him? i would also put duncan on west and thomas on chandler, but i am no coach of the year.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
no shit your no coach of the year! Thanks for clarifying that obvious! Um..Peterson is garbage, the reason he is effective against Tony is because he can shoot the ball over him..shit it isn’t hard for anyone to shoot the ball over a guy that is 7 inches taller than them!
Barry can’t get into Peja’s head and fuck I bet your fat ass can guard a Twinkie better than Finley can, Finley can’t guard anybody!
I find it ironic that a Suns fan is giving Spurs advice about defense..sorry but you fail!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 4:53 PM CDT reply actions
Third team all nba
Did anyone see that Manu got third team All nba. should have been second team ahead of Deron williams but it’s still a great accomplishment.
What’s a Spurs fan to do with such seemingly insurmountable obstacles ahead? Give up on the Spurs? Of course not. You pray, you beg, you plead and mostly cheer them on to win the next game. I am a fan before I am a bastketball critic. I can be a critic when it comes to other teams but I want to be a fan when it comes to the Spurs. Isn’t that what being a fan all about anyway? haha
I love my spurs cause well I love Tim Duncan. And because he wins. in anyway possible. Would I want entertaining high scoring games from the Spurs? Sure I do but I would choose winning over entertainment any day cause Spurs winning is entertaining enough. It has been for the last 10 years anyway.
As to what I think the Spurs should do in game 3? Simple answer would be play better on offense. It’s been known to happen.. spurs scoring points. And I would suggest putting parker on CP3 and let him shoot all he wants. And try to stop the assists. I think we win if CP3 has less than 8 assists. And then pray. Praying is going to be the important strategy here. =)
I’m praying right now for Spurs in 7 games. haha.
I have to give gonobli sucks something – he does wonders for the forum’s activity. Bet this thread would’ve gotten about 10 replies before he arrived.
You're probably right LD..
but lotsa activity based on a pissing match isn’t something I want on this blog. I’d rather keep it tight among Spurs fans. =)
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