Game Thread for Round 2, Game 3: vs Hornets
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 7:19 PM CDT
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PrintAnybody that has been reading the game threads knows I think the officiating has heavily favored the Hornets. I think it has for two reasons: 1) The Hornets were at home. 2) They have been far more aggressive.
As the series moves back to SA, here's what I think the Spurs need to do to turn the series and the calls in their favor.
We have to hit our outside shots. We have had a ton of open looks that we have passed up and we have missed a ton of open shots. We need our shooters to shoot and we need our shooters to make shots. NOTE: This does not include Bruce Bowen shooting 20' jumpers from the wing on the break or having him curl around screens looking for his shot.
We have to play aggressive defense. Our decision to back off Paul has killed us. We have turned into a passive team instead of an aggressive team. The way we are playing defense reminds me of how we play the Mavs some times. In our focus to cut off penetration, by backing off Harris, we open up all the passing lanes and the Mavs could pass the ball without any pressure on their passes (neither the passer or the receiver is challenged). This makes ball movement too easy. Any decent team will shred you if they can move the ball around the court with impunity.
Also, a lack of pressure on the ball allows the passer to throw much more accurate passes allowing the receiver to catch it where they want to establish their shooting rhythm. The Spurs need to make the Hornets passers uncomfortable.
Lastly, the lack of aggression on the ball handler means that we don't have bodies around the guy with the ball. This is the main reason the Hornets are getting calls and we are not. When we drive the lane there is more than one guy with his body against or near our guy. It is very difficult for the refs to call a foul, especially a reach foul, in a crowd. However, if only one defender is near the driver then it is very easy to see contact.
In summary, we need to play aggressive Spurs defense. We need to pick Paul up at half court. We need to go over screens and have our bigs show like we do against Nash and Amare. We need to pressure the ball constantly. We need to make them uncomfortable. They have looked way too comfortable on offense.
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really? 4 trophies in nine years and spurs fans are reduced to whining about home court calls? really? you know who also whines about calls not going their way in the playoffs? suns fans. usually when they are about to get bounced from the playoffs.
it was a nice ride spurs, you won a lot, you experienced a lot. now its time to learn to lose gracefully.
meh, i would if i cared more. i’ll just spell it as it comes to me.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
yeah i noticed i did that. meh, it happens. personally, i would like to see the spurs make a series of it. i enjoy watching hornets games, but since they have a television contract with the local cable affiliate here, i only get to see them in the playoffs. as for ginobili, ginobli, whatever, he is an abortion of a basketball player, and hopefully we aer all witnessing the beginning of his downslide. he’ll be your robert horry in two years.
If you want people to take you seriously then don’t talk out of your ass. Manu was 7th in MVP voting this year and the 6th man of the year. He’s also a 3 time NBA champion. But go ahead, talk shit, just make sure you stick around when we even the series up.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
sure will. hornets will split the two games in san antone. we wont give you guys an historic beating like we did in the regular season (largest home loss ever for tim duncan’s spurs) but we will win one there all the same. still you guys a chance to even it up, in the sixth game but i doubt it. hornets will close it out at home in 5.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
dude, if you want me to take you seriously, read your own website. your little argentine didnt exactly finish in 7th. http://www.poundingtherock.com/2008/5/6/481603/that-sounds-about-right
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow you got me. I’m soooo busted…. I mistakenly transposed 7 for 10 after reading about Duncan getting 7th and Manu getting 10th. Seriously, you’re so right…. He was only 10th in the MVP race. What a fucking disgrace,or as you put it… an “abortion”.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
10th place (95th place votes) isnt exactly something i would be bragging about. 2 games up on the defending champs, however, is.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
How sad.
Are you seriously even making this argument? You’re calling a guy who won lead his team to a gold medal in the Olympics, 3 time NBA champion, Six man of the year, who happened to finish 10 in the MVP race an abortion. You sound like a child. A child thats giddy that his team has won a couple of games. This is sad. Enjoy the game tonight.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
is that the fear talking? you should try to find the calm.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
MANU 31 PTS, 6 ASSISTS, 4 REBOUNDS.... in game 3.
How you like them apples?
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
Right On
Another person trashing the Sickness. Dude you’ve come to the wroooooong blog for that. ATS, I couldn’t agree more about the defense. For the offense to not click is one thing, but I mean the defense has been what has been killing them. Peja got way too many open looks in the first two games. Paul is going to get his regardless of who covers him, but I know Peja can be stifled. Bruce can make him a non-factor as opposed to the X-factor he has been.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
does that mean that bowen will knee peja in the crotch? or stick his foot under him when he is jump shooting? or will he kick him when he’s down? please. bruce bowen guarding peja? that is the solution to everything? congratulations spurs! way to come up with a solution to stopping the number three scoring option for the hornets. that’ll stop em.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Stojakovich scored 22 points on 9-15 shooting in game 1 and 25 points on 8-13 shooting in game 2. In both games he was the SECOND leading scored for the bees. In both games he shot well above his normal shooting percentage. Yes, he can be slowed, and it isn’t even going to cause Bowen to break a sweat.
Also note that Thomas and the Spurs in general have improved their defense on West. When the Spurs start knocking down those open looks that have been there all series, and stop turning the ball over, look out.
for the season, and i am not 100% certain, but david west was the leading scorer, paul was second, peja was third. peja is doing well in this series, but to beat a dead horse, thats because the spurs havent exactly been putting on defensive clinics in the first two games.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, so then do you finally get it? Peja is scoring well beyond what he should, and stopping him using first team all defense Bowen, will be a somewhat easy adjustment that will pay dividends for the Spurs.
Yes, the Spurs defense has been atrocious because we tried to get cute and put Bowen on Paul. When that experiment ends and you will find that the rest of the Hornets besides Paul will have a much tougher time making shots.
if your all defensive first teamer “held” chris paul to 30 points and 12 assists, then what do you think he is going to do with mr longoria? bowen cant stop paul, but putting him on peja is not going to make a difference.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
About the same I’d imagine. It was a bad matchup for Bowen. Why is your basketball IQ so low and why are you so angry? Are you new to the game?
yeah im new to the game. i figured a spurs fanboy website is the perfect place to pick up a rudamentary understanding of the game of basketball.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m gaining more confidence as the days go by, I hope our guys are too. I really hope as many have already said that Bowen checks Peja. I think Peja is the only starter in the NBA less athletic than Bowen. Anyone catch Pejas reverse layup attempt in the first half of game 2? I think he got 14 inches of lift and missed badly. When Tony is out I like the idea of Manu guarding CP3 because when he fights over screens he gets back to his guy quickly instead of just conceding that he got picked. Gino did this to Nash a bunch of times and created a few turnovers. And lastly Duncan needs to play HUGE. Close to a 20-20 game. That’s all.
a truer statement has never been typed on this blog. “injury” or not, jinoblee can’t guard chris paul.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
i’ll disagree with you on that one. julian wright can. chris paul can. bonzi wells can. and morris peterson can. BUT since he is supposedly not healthy, doesnt really matter does it? since i brought up bonzi wells, how about that sweet karma when he took down bruce bowen in the lane? pretty awesome. the funny part was when bowen hit the ground grabbing his eyes, but the replay showed wells collared him by the shoulder/neck. what a douche. he needs to watch the film of pargo getting hard fouled by jason kidd. that is how you take a hard foul. you bounce right back up, you dont bury your eyes in your hands like you lost a contact lens.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s hilarious. None of those guys can guard a healthy Ginobili, especially not Fatzi Wells.
Sweet karma? In case you haven’t followed Wells career, he’s always been a thug, even when he was a Jailblazer.
moot point. genobly is injured, he stubbed his vagina in the first game. i read it on a spurs blog. but not anywhere in the national media has an injury been reported.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
How is that crazy? Aside from Tony Manu is the quickest guy on the roster. I didn’t say Manu should guard him the entire game just when Tony gets his rest and Manu is out running the show. And Bowen should match Pejas minutes the way he does Melo, Kobe, Ray, etc… It’s better than Vaughn checking Paul, even if it’s just for 6 minutes a game.
by speedostuffer on May 7, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
No GS. Bowen is going to keep Peja from getting the open looks he has been getting. As I recall it, Bowen has owned Peja in the past. I don’t see that changing. Where did I say that making this switch will change the entire series?
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
Peja’s career average with Bowen on him: 12.9 points per game on 37% shooting.
Peja’s average this season with Finley/Manu on him: 23.5 points per game on 61% shooting.
The facts speak for themselves.
want to share the link where you gleaned this information, sonny?
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s super secret. It’s Peja’s player page on Yahoo Sports. You can see his career stats against the Spurs (and Bowen was on him in all of those games) and they aren’t pretty.
so its a fact, because a spurs fanboy says bowen was guarding him then? those are statistics, of the spurs vs the hornets, but not necessarily of bowens success against stojokovic.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, not my fault if you don’t know how to sort through the stats. And yes, Bowen guarded Peja after he became a Spur, and he is responsible for Peja’s inefficient play during that period.
its true because you say so? fuck that. just like ginoblie is injured? sure thing, some d-bag on the internets told me so!
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Manu’s injury is documented, as is Bowen’s defense on Peja. Why not look at every box score and game transcript of every Spurs/Sacto game, every Spurs Indiana game, and every Spurs/Hornets game, with both Peja and Bowen, or you could believe someone who knows that Bowen routinely put the clamps on Peja.
If you want recent history though, take a look at this regular season’s results. 11 points per game against Bowen and the Spurs is quite a bit different than the last two games.
d bag
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/preview?gameId=280508024
please investigate before you post. and yes he’s been injured this entire series, jackass.
i’ll now acknowledge he is “injured.” however, given the time stamp on that website, it wasnt online yesterday afternoon when i was posting.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
boewn has “owned” peja and the spurs have won four trophies in the past. what the hell does that have to do with anything? should the hornets yield this series because of the spurs past accomplishments. face it, down 2-0 (and a bad 2-0, not like the magic who were gipped out of a win) the series doesnt look that good for you. but hey, always next year!
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
ha
everyone is patting themselves on the back for their brililant observation that bowen must guard peja. all i am saying is that it wont make a bit of difference. IF bowen shuts him down, then who guards paul? tony parker? not exactly an all star for his defensive abilities.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Man, you post faster than you can think (and read apparently). We have already said that Paul will get his buckets on Tony, but the key will be to stop everyone else. Nobody else on your team is unstoppable. Note that West has been figured out, that Peja is pedestrian against Bowen, and that Tyson is not a prolific scorer. Also note that Udoka shut Wells down.
i read as well as you paid attention to games 1 & 2. little adjustments dont lead to 19 & 18 point blowouts. the hornets have been handling the spurs, paul has been doing whatever he wants, west wasnt found out you douche, paul was the focal point of the offense in game 2. you see, a diverse attack, unlike what the spurs have, is crucial to a successful offensive team.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Putting Bowen on Peja is not a little adjustment. It means Parker doesn’t have to guard Mo Pete as well. It will change the whole outlook.
Also, West was 2-11 with 4 turnovers in game 2. 15 times he was either stripped, blocked, or missed his shot (and you are calling ME a douche?). He was no longer the focal point, because the Spurs took him out of of the offense.
Do you really believe that the Hornets are going to be successful this season? They may get by the Spurs, but the only team in the West that has a good chance at beating the Lakers is the Spurs. Excuse me, if as a Spurs fan I measure success in terms of championships and not “good showings” like Mavs fans, Suns fans, and maybe even Hornets fans.
well, you wont be able to measure this post season on a championship, or a good showing.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Even down 0-2, the Spurs have more of a shot at the championship right now than the Whornets. If the Whornets advance, they will not get past the Lakers.
when they get past the spurs, no if about it. as for the lakers, the hornets match up better with them than the spurs, and that, not this should be a good one.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
No way. First, they have only a chance at getting past the Spurs. Second, they are dust if they face the Lakers. You know it, I know it, Kobe and Phil know it.
The Lakers fans are all rooting for the Whornets to take out the Spurs so they don’t have to face them in what would be a bloody, dragged out series. They would much rather cruise past the inexperienced Whornets. The gimmicky defense that Scott has employed against the Spurs would fail miserably against the Lakers. If he doubled Gasol, (the healthy) Kobe would roast the Whornets.
haha
inexperience? that old tired argument. the same reason they would lose to the mavericks? or to the spurs in game 1? or game 2? sure inexperience. that must be the reason.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Just because the Whornets beat an imploding Mavs team, and are up 2-0 on the Spurs, does not mean that inexperience won’t come into play. Also, did you notice that I didn’t just type the word “inexperience” in my post above. Do you have ADHD?
first off: this isnt the only imploding team the hornets are beating this post season. second: i have no idea you are talking about with that second commetn about adhd. third: lakers arent going to get past the hornets. lakers will want to run, and frankly the hornets will oblige. i think those games in that series will be, at the very least, more competitiveand entertaining than the ones in this series.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Bowen on Peja...
Can make somewhat of a difference and there are addition adjustments the Spurs need to make to win a game or 4 in this series, most notably disallowing open looks. All of that shit is moot anyway if Tony, Manu and Tim don’t score.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
it may make a difference in less points for peja. and it is moot. parker will continue to be owned by chris paul, leading to duncan’s continued struggles. jennobly will continue to appear to be on a different page than the rest of the offense, but i am sure it is because he is “injured”
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
It has to do with this series Ginobili Hater. Bowen will limit Peja’s effectiveness. Let me reiterate it will take a hell of a lot more than that to win the series, but it’s one adjustment to be made. Also, if you have viewed any of my past comments on prior posts, you will see that I give less than 5 shits about the Spurs past championships. The Hornets have a great team, but I happen to think the Spurs can play better. Just my point of view.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
ginolbee hater? guilty as charged. the man is to basketball what stephen a smith is to journalism. he is a fraud, and it looks like his career peaked at 10th place (9 fifth place votes) in mvp ballotting. oh yeah and a sixth man award. maybe he and dell curry can go hang out talking about how awesome it was to be the best bench warmer in the league. ginabli is on the decline, he isnt exactly getting younger. and with another playoff run, it will be an awfully short summer for the old man. doesnt he have a national team obligation this summer as well? meh, i could be mistaken. but i would think that all those games are going to start catching up with him.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
A fraud? WTF? He could give a shit about that sixth man award, all he cares about is winning. Hate on him all you want, but that’s what the game is about. So what if he is on the decline. His competitive fire isn’t declining that’s for damn sure. I’m really trying to have a legit b-ball discussion here and you are comparing Dell Freaking Curry to Manu Ginobili? I’m done.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
my hatred for ginobli has been around for years, well before he started going bald. that being said, you are probably right.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
both won the sixth man award. seems legitimate to me.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I knew better, but I’m bored so I thought what the hell….
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
sure you are bored. thats it. or am i on the wrooooooooong site to “hate on the sickness” what the fuck has ginoble done that was so fecking wonderful? he looks like a bitch, plays like a bitch, and pouts like a bitch when he doesnt get a call…you tell me what that makes him? aside from benchwarmer of the year?
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
2 blowout wins at home don’t necessary determine how a series will end. It may and it may not, but nothing is definitive at this stage of a series. Anybody gonna check that Lakers/Jazz game tonight?
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
keep telling yourself that. and yes, i was going to watch the lakers game tonight. hopefully the jazz can make it interesting.
by ginobli sucks on May 7, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
hey "GS"
its people like you that make it so easy to hate. i hate the hornets. i hate the hornets fans. most of all i hate you GS. i hate cp3 because he whines more than nash. he tattle-tales to the refs like a little girl in preschool. your team wont win it all. your team doesnt have the nutz. spurs have more championships than your team will ever have. spurs have also been in the playoff picture for the last decade. period. sometimes ya gotta just look at the big picture. your team doesnt have the class, the experience, the fortitude, or the history. you probably just now jumped on the whornets bandwagon. so most of all i hate fairweather fans. GS. so my point is this. 10 years from now if the whornets are still dominating teams like this year, you will have an argument. until then STFU.
JEFE666
hotspur fan
your opinion means jack shit.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
GS, I’m done. I could argue all day about how wrong you are(which you are), but what’s the point. I’m just here to talk hoops, I’m not concerned about how your misguided opinion of Manu Ginobili, I don’t know him personally or anything like that. So me getting into a pointless Internet pissing match doesn’t accomplish anything and I’ve been silly to endeavor in such behavior.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
Recognize, CG, recognize. You’re not going to win a discussion with a hornet fan who’s so excited to be up 2-0. Me thinks GS will be strangely quiet in two weeks, let him mirror his team now and have his fun. Inside of a month, the hornets’ miraculous season will also be “in the past.” As for this series, they played A++, we played D-, not much more to argue. Give ‘em props, they have been unstoppable. Kinda like the Proclaimers or Lee Greenwood.
Keep the faith. After losing, we have trophies to go home to and not simply urine-soaked streets.
by SgtinManusArmy on May 7, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
that was actually pretty funny! i lol’d.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Seriously, people like “ginobli sucks” should teach you all to keep it classy when you visit other teams’ forums.
We’ll see what happens in game 3. I think our guys will come through for us, but at this point it’s pretty much wishful thinking and sheer blind trust. Good enough for me, though.
haha I don’t think I’ve seen such hate on this blog before. Are other blogs like this all the time? So glad I’m part of this blog.
I with LatinD. It’s sheer blind trust to think we will pull out a momentum changing win but hey it works for me!
you should check out this posting then, and might i add, i didnt have anything to do with the stimulating “conversation” taking place http://www.poundingtherock.com/2008/5/5/473323/the-spurs-stink
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I don’t think there is anything wrong with sparking discussions and disagreement on other sites or blogs. It’s just vexing to me how some people act like they are the only person with a valid opinion. I’ll admit it, I’ve been wrong on many topics regarding the Spurs or the NBA. But the older I get, the more I enjoy discussing diverging points of view.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
I can’t speak for anybody else, I don’t hate ginobili sucks. It would be ridiculous to type I hate someone I don’t personally know. I just didn’t agree with anything he had to say.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
To the Sickness hater,
You are guilty of NBA pecking order code 107.1B which states that no fan of a team that is under may speak to what a team that is over has done. Spurs 4 championships, Hornets zero. The sickness has three NBA championships and one gold medal. Did you happen to catch that driving layup for the gold as time expired in the Olympics? Have you watched any of the Spurs games this season? There is a reason we call him “the sickness”. He is the man and to be the man, you have to beat the man. You will have to go to bed every night of your life knowing he is the best thing going today. Diamonds are forever and so is Manu.
I suspect that you are indeed Bonzi Wells masquerading as some random bo bo.
Get off our BLOG Bonzi.
Again, you are guilty of NBA pecking order code 107.1B. You are in danger of a drawing a fine and suspension.
yikes!
man, there is a lot of weird man love for ginoblie on this website.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
no, i am going to stick with my original assessment. it is weird.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
GS was kinda funny. First I thought he was just trying to compensate… you know the big head avatar and everything.
But then I checked out his personal profile and he/she(?) thinks that Andy Roddick is hot. Really? Anyone who know anything about tennis, knows that Rafael Nadal is much hotter than Roddick.
I am happy. I am proud. - Manu Ginobili
i am an american dammit! ill be dead in the cold cold earth before i recognize that fascists hotness!
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
PREVIEW GAME 3
8:30 PM SA – 10:30 PM ARG
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(Sort of) Interesting facts:
â–º Previous games: They met 4 times during the regular season.
→ Nov/09/07 – SA 97 | NOH 85 – @ NO.
→ Jan/26/08 – NOH 102 | SA 78 – @ SA.
→ Feb/23/08 – SA 98 | NOH 89 – @ SA.
→ Mar/12/08 – NOH 100 | SA 75 – @ NO.
â–º One of the major problems for the Spurs in the first two games has been turnovers. The Spurs had 28 TO (13 in game 1, 15 in game 2). The Hornets capitalized on nearly every one of these.
â–º Manu and Parker admitted during training yesterday that the game strategy for tonight will be simply to be more aggressive and try to penetrate more.
â–º Chris Paul turned 23 last Tuesday. According to his statements, he quietly celebrated the day with his teammates.
â–º The Hornets have a 6-1 partial in the Playoffs so far. The 6 victories were won by an average margin of 15.2 ppg (14 ppg against Dallas, 18.5 ppg against SA).
â–º The Spurs have a 4-3 partial in the postseason so far this year. The 4 victories (all against Phoenix) were won by an average margin of 7.3 ppg.
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(Likely) Starting lineup:
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Quotes after the 0-2:
â–º Tony Parker:
→ “It sounds, like, easy, but we just have to play better.”
→ “They just outplayed us the first two games and now we’re playing at home and we have to make more shots and play better defense. ... We’re going to change stuff but at the end of the day it’s just basketball.”
► Manu Ginóbili:
→ “We’re going to have to realize that it’s the only way, if we’re going to have a shot, that without being physical it’s not going to happen.”
â–º Chris Paul:
→ “They say you’re supposed to win all your home games. The series doesn’t start until the home team loses.”
→ “We understand their backs are against the wall right now but we’ve got to go in there and understand we really need to steal a game.”
â–º Byron Scott:
→ “We’re not only playing the champions, we’re playing for respect, because we felt all season long like we really haven’t gotten it.”
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Interviews after the 0-2:
One minute summary of the press conference with the most relevant quotes.
Spurs:
→ Press conference after game 2:
Tim DuncanCoach Pop
→ During Wednesday’s training:Manu GinóbiliTony ParkerRobert HorryCoach Pop
Hornets:
→ Press conference after game 2:
Coach Byron ScottChris Paul & David West
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Transmissions:
No NBA League Pass broadcast for this one. ESPN will show it, but one of the WMOE channels will have the game. To watch these channels you need:
1. Internet Explorer
2. Sopcast
To tune into it: enter the STOOGETV site, go with your mouse to the WMOE button on the left-hand menu, and then click on the channel you want.
If that doesn’t work, check the links below:
...And if there’s no other choice:
Another live feed
Since ESPN is carrying this game, it’s available on ESPN360.com—it’s a very good feed.
Actually, it's more of a guideline than a rule. - Dr. Peter Venkman
I probably won’t be able to watch the game tonight…
Not only does that suck, but it also means that if we happen to win tonight I won’t allow myself to watch the other games, because if there’s a time when you have to be true to your inner superstitious logic, it’s the playoffs.
So go Spurs, let’s get into this series. I whole expect you guys to be around to witness our guys will this game.
I don't know if we still do this, but....
Spurs 93
Hornets 82
Defense wins.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
i think the spurs have to keep it in the 80s to win. scoring that much favors the hornets. that being said i think the spurs win this game. but not the series.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t agree with going over screens. We don’t have the foot speed to recover against these guys. CP takes over games when he gets into the lane and their offense becomes an “organized playground”.
We need to keep CP out of the lane. Manu needs to guard him.
Manu, Bowen, Tony, it doesn’t matter who covers Chris Paul. He is gonna make it happen. The key is to make him work for everything, and more importantly play better team D. On offense, there has to be better ball movement and dudes have to stop settling for 3’s. That only leads to fast breaks for the Hornets. I knew this was a bad matchup for the Spurs before this series started, but dudes gotta bring more intensity tonight.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
Of course it matters who guards CP, he’s the key to their team. Likewise, it needs to be a total team effort, but everything that team does revolves around CP and his ability to create for others. Just like everything we do revolves around Duncan. Our rotations on D have been slow and CP is making us pay for it. This team is too fast for us to make rotation mistakes.
And it goes without saying, we need to hit open shots. If MoPete and JWright can make a friggin open J, why can’t we?
because bowen, finley, barry, ginablee and, yes, even duncan, are on the declining sides of their career. tony parker is being shown to be an overrated fraud and because the spurs suck in general.
by ginobli sucks on May 8, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I was saying yesterday to put Tony on Paul at the start, put Finley/Barry on MoPete, Bowen on Peja. That way there will be no cross-matchups and someone will put a hand in Peja’s face. But it’s not gonna matter so much who guards Paul, dude is unguardable. The real key is taking the role players out. Something the Spurs nomally attempt to do. The rotations have been horrible and terrible shot selection is keying the 3rd quarter runs by the Hornets. Putting Manu on Paul wouldn’t work, even if Manu was 100% healthy this matchup would be less than idea.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
Ginobli sucks guy is an idiot!!! Spurs are going to D-up 2nite, and win 105-94! Then win game 4….and then the pressure shifts and spurs will win in 6!!! Go Spurs Go!!! oh yeah gino and parker are going to combine for around 60 2nite…and…no more arguing with idiots like that guy, just ignore, they haven’t done anything yet, spurs have, it’s that simple!!!!!!
You know they can’t get enough of the Celtics and LeBron. Even if it is mind-numbingly boring inept offensive basketball.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions
I was watching espn..and it was showing the stupid boston game..it finally put on the Spurs game!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions
My bad. I thought you asked ‘why’ not ‘where’.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Paul will have to score 60 points tonight to beat us..because we aren’t going to let Peja go off!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply actions
Manu really hasn’t been doing that much coming off the bench so I doubt it would make a difference right now
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions
who the hell is this announcer? Boy he sucking Pauls dick big time!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions
I wish the refs could get their heads out of their asses!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions
doing what..Bryon? I mean the Spurs missed more open shots than I have ever seen
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions
Wow. Manu got a call. And he made a shot. And he drove. I’m all excited.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 9:17 PM CDT reply actions
I smell a series of T’s coming. Javie won’t let them get away with a lost of BS.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply actions
we need to double West, when Paul isn’t on the floor!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply actions
Fuckinnnnnnnnnnnn FinnnnnnnnnnnnDogggggggggggggg!!!!
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 9:23 PM CDT reply actions
we would be killing them if we could rebound the damn ball!!!!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:23 PM CDT reply actions
When they don’t have 3 point shooter out on the floor why don’t we go zone?
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply actions
I just hope Fin doesn’t start taking stupid shots..like fadeaways!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions
That was a call we weren’t gettingin NO.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions
keep doubling Tim and we are going to keep making 3 point shots
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:30 PM CDT reply actions
The obligatory, and well deserved.
FinnnnnnnnnnnnnDoggggggggggggg!!!
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 9:30 PM CDT reply actions
Wow. How was the first one not a foul on Tyson? Oh well. Some parts of this game will always be a mystery to me.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions
we always play a great first half..it’s the 3rd quarter that we have to watch for…And Manu better start the 3rd quarter..even though Finley is shooting the ball tonight!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions
True Bones. But they are going aggressively after Tim which is opening the 3 point line.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 9:33 PM CDT reply actions
actually she knows more about basketball than that idiot guy announcing the game!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:33 PM CDT reply actions
Are defense isn’t so bad..it’s are pathetic rebounding!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions
C’mon Tim. He got lazy on that rebound.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 9:37 PM CDT reply actions
fuck!!!!! Manu looks like he hurt himself again!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:37 PM CDT reply actions
Manu’s ankles are obviously bothering him.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 9:37 PM CDT reply actions
Evening gents
I hear there is a playoff game going on
Actually, it's more of a guideline than a rule. - Dr. Peter Venkman
You know, that was an illegal screen by Paul.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 9:38 PM CDT reply actions
Ok Manu. Let’s see if that gets his stroke going.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions
Butd..is absolutely correct..that little fucker can suck someone in the face and they would probably throw the other player out!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply actions
I’ve never seen a player in my life get away with more pushing off than Paul does! Even Wade didn’t get away with that much!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions
um..dipshit they have taken 8 more shots than Parker and Duncan!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions
are you fucking kidding me? But they call a foul on the other head because of Paul?
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions
Fuck. They aren’t calling any contact on Tony.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 9:46 PM CDT reply actions
I want to see a derrick fisher bull shit type shot here. we need this!
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
Let’s see how the Spurs play in the 3rd quarter..that is all I care about!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions
What did he say? I have the volume off.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 9:51 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, we don’t need to be giving up 33 point quaters like the second.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 9:53 PM CDT reply actions
just have Tony and Manu keep attacking the basket..and please rebound the ball..then we should be fine!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 9:54 PM CDT reply actions
for those who were asking what paul said: “i could barely see it. manu caught the ball, turn, fix the seem and knock the shot down in .8 seconds”. when asked if he was suggesting he didn’t get the shot off in time, paul responded, “no, thats not my call. it was a good play”.
i don’t know how that is bitching..
Let’s see. We say Paul is a very talented whiny punk flopper who gets pretty much every call.
And I complain a lot about the officiating.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
and your trying to justify the hornets play on a spurs blog?
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:00 PM CDT reply actions
I will also say that I think Kate Beckinsale is super-ass hot. Van Helsing is on TBS and she is PURE eye candy. Mmmm…...
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:00 PM CDT reply actions
I know. I have the volume off. I also liked her in Underworld. Which was also awful but she just looks too damn good in black leather to pass it up.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait. Are you saying there is more than one? I’ve got a movie rental in my future if there is.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
fuck..who is this announcer? I think he wants to fuck Paul!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:12 PM CDT reply actions
Paul totally fucking flopped there. That was embarassing.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:12 PM CDT reply actions
what kind of bull shit calls are these refs giving the Hornets?
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:13 PM CDT reply actions
Oh for fucks sake. C’mon Kurt. You can’t swing like that.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:13 PM CDT reply actions
Three
Four. Alright Bill Kennedy just sucks.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:14 PM CDT reply actions
have the spurs ever fouled anyone in your guys minds? you guys are not a good sample of spurs fans. ill leave it with you.
Tony needs to stop talking to the refs. It’s not doing him any good.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:16 PM CDT reply actions
how can we win a game..if the refs won’t call it fair?
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:19 PM CDT reply actions
I mean really…they have called more touch fouls on us..and they let the hornets do whatever they want!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:19 PM CDT reply actions
how gay is this ..stupid meatloaf go phone commerical?
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:20 PM CDT reply actions
See this is what I don’t get. On our offensive end Mo Pete was holding Manu, I mean really holding him, as he came around a pick. But no call.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:23 PM CDT reply actions
looks like Paul is trying to fight Oberto now!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:25 PM CDT reply actions
Things are getting a bit chippy. Hey, they finally called moving pick on Chandler. That might actually hurt there offense.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:26 PM CDT reply actions
if the Spurs win this series..I hope I never have to watch them on Espn again..damn they are horrible!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:27 PM CDT reply actions
It’s the 3rd quarter and we have a lead.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:28 PM CDT reply actions
Maybe we could have watched the foul..if these announcers would stop showing every Chris paul play!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:29 PM CDT reply actions
Holy crap. They almost didn’t call that foul on Pargo.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:31 PM CDT reply actions
Tim actually dribbled the ball after the call..but I’ll take it!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:33 PM CDT reply actions
I’m going to say that I don’t think that basket should have counted.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:33 PM CDT reply actions
Basket shouldn’t have count, but the way this game has been called, we deserve about 5 more of those calls.
Hell, we at least have some aggression.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:34 PM CDT reply actions
damn..how good could we have been if Manu was 100% healthy? And Tim didn’t have fever in the first 2 games?
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:34 PM CDT reply actions
we need to close out this third quarter strong!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:36 PM CDT reply actions
Finley is playing well..that is why Bones isn’t playing much
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:39 PM CDT reply actions
looks like we are getting their bigs in foul trouble
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:41 PM CDT reply actions
and Chandler being in foul trouble too doesn’t help either!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:46 PM CDT reply actions
it has taken a lot of effort to get to this point. both teams look tired. my fear is that young legs bounce back quicker than old. we need some bench guys to do the job early in this quarter. gotta keep pounding. gimme some bones. whatever happened to ime in this game?
I think the lack of Ime is directly related to the boogar that is Bonzi Wells.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
we can beat this team.. we have beat them 2 times during the season.
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:46 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, but we all know that doesn’t matter. The Suns beat us 3 times.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
We need 3 minutes of good defense to start the quarter.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:48 PM CDT reply actions
bring in Ime to guard Bonzi so we don’t have to double
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:49 PM CDT reply actions
How the fuck was that not a foul on Bonzi.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:54 PM CDT reply actions
Are you saying Tony hit Bonzi? Just asking for clarification. Not arguing.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Because it’s the Hornets the new NBA darlings.
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 10:55 PM CDT reply actions
I looked away, did parker get fouled or was it a good no call?
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
So did my wife.
did you say GINOBILI to him?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Bruceeeeee from the corner. His Spot. His Shot.
The Hornets are finding it is a lot harder to score when you aren’t getting foul calls. I don’t know if we are playing any better or different but they are getting any calls in the paint right now.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 11:03 PM CDT reply actions
And I loved how Finley stepped up in the first half..OBerto with those amazing passes to Tim!!!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 11:04 PM CDT reply actions
Did you know we are outrebounding them?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 11:05 PM CDT reply actions
where that bitch who talked about Manu being overated?
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 11:06 PM CDT reply actions
Who? What? I don’t remember anybody.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
good foul..and please someone tell Tony to stop shooting 3 pointers!
by adam8065 on May 8, 2008 11:08 PM CDT reply actions
It’s hard to believe the teams started playing completely different.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the main difference between this game and the first two is our ball movement.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 11:15 PM CDT reply actions
And now my ears feel all warm and fuzzy.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 11:17 PM CDT reply actions
Heh. I’m here, AusTechSpur. I managed to watch the first half at a cybercafe, and then run here and saw the end of the third quarter… Just didn’t comment because we were winning and I didn’t want to jinx us. :)
same here!!!
i never comment on this site when we play. but we were up by 12 with 1 min left so i decided i could :]
Snarky sarcasm. I like it.
If you get in some tongue in cheek ref complaining you might fit right in.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, it was the closest game of the series but that really isn’t saying much.
I predict we haven’t seen the best game yet.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Good night fellas. I think my ref bashing made the difference on Fortuna’s wheel tonight.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 11:19 PM CDT reply actions
I’m VERY non-violent when watching. I don’t even yell at the television. This is like a stream of consciousness for me.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 8, 2008 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Although… I probably shouldn’t comment on the next game, either. For consistency’s sake. I guess? I don’t know what to do any more!
But great game, fellas. I missed part of the third quarter, but it was close throughout, and we battled through some tough calls in the first half. Damn, I’m so happy. When Manu hit that shot to end the half I practically deafened the guy next to me at the cafe.
latinD, thats what i was saying earlier in the game. i don’t see how you guys think the calls were so one sided when they were equally inconsistent, imo.
the hornets forums are saying the refs jobbed us. haha
Okay, complete honesty here: fouls against your team always hurt you more. So you keep track of them and they stay fresh on your mind.
That said, Paul gets the benefit of the doubt way too often, I think. Someone up there called him a “stud” (was it you?) and said that they always get the calls. But Duncan would be our stud, I guess, and he doesn’t seem to have that going for him on this series.
Then again, I’m biased. Don’t listen to me.
Huge Gamble.
Well, I took a gamble and wore my unlucky Manu shirt today, I figured maybe the bad luck had been stripped away from it and it would be lucky again, like last year. It effing worked!
goodnight
tonight manu, i will shave my beard, and give it to you to cover the bald spot. thank you. i love you.
Oh man you’re lucky, you’ve never had to see Steven A. Smith before. He is a total loud mouth idiot. Turn on NBATV they always have full interviews and very little over-the-top ranting analysis.
by One4theThumb on May 8, 2008 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it was pretty bad. Our SC at least has some likable commentators. This guy seems to be the kind in love with his own voice.
Hey Big News. I think I found our good luck charm. The game thread had a complete lack of SiMA Nothing during the game. Just some pre-batner from yeserdayl Can we have him banned on game days?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 9, 2008 1:07 AM CDT reply actions
I hate you so much.
Because….. you’re…... dead on. I want to say that you’re just being mean and grasping at straws, but there’s no way around it. Traveling and in the air all day yesterday (and during the majority of the game), so as LD said days ago, I also am screwed and can’t watch #4 now. You’re welcome for the W. I have no choice but to acknowledge your words + plus my sudden lack of shaving for this series as the reasons for #3. That said, you guys have fun.
I’ll be back again when the mojo shifts and my skills are needed. I’m still there, lurking and reading posts later; just not commenting because A.) the new douches onboard PtR greatly diminish it’s quality and render it beneath my witty retorts, and most importantly B.) obviously my absense is needed for the cause. I am committed until it is no longer required of me.
by SgtinManusArmy on May 9, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I appreciate the love Gino, I really do. But what would YOU do? I miss the majority of Game 3…. and we win. I can’t take any chances now. I definately won’t post, but am pretty sure I have to miss Game 4 too to avoid feeling like it might have been directly related to me.
by SgtinManusArmy on May 10, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I pulled out all the stops tonight. I wore my ancient and lucky Spurs practice jersey (circa 1995).
I did not wear dark grey adidas shorts since I wore them the last two losses.
And most importantly, I drank only Cruzan rum tonight (from Timmeh’s homeland, St. Croix). I had previously been mixing 1 jigger of Cruzan with 1 jigger of Appleton (from Jamaica for flavor) in my Cuba Libres. No more Appleton for the rest of the season.
Hmmmm…. Let see. For Sunday’s game I might be able to put together quite a feast. Any suggestions for what should be on the mendu to help deliver the Spurs a victory.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 9, 2008 1:12 AM CDT reply actions
Chips and queso
Tacos al pastore
Ice cold Sprite (or IBC)
Actually, it's more of a guideline than a rule. - Dr. Peter Venkman
That’s a pretty decent list. What do you think of mine below?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 9, 2008 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions
glad to see we won. i was getting text messages from spurs fans giving me updates cause i was celebrating the end of my finals.
i did get a few text messages from non-spurs fans laughing at how bad cp3 was flopping during the game. glad to see that people notice other players flop other than “just manu”
What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)
anyone going to game 4?
i got some tickets to game 4 with my friends. anyone else lucky enough to get some tickets?
What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)
by Hamer_SpursFan on May 9, 2008 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions
ceviche, jicama salad, paella, sangria, mojitos, cheese, olives, aqua fresca
Anything esl
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on May 9, 2008 1:16 AM CDT reply actions
Heck I could make a meal just out of your drink list… Mojitos, Sangrias & Aquas Frescas… too yummy. The food sounds great, too… make sure you get some machenga cheese – then it’ll be perfect. So…. what time should we all be there? Just kidding… I’ll be at the game getting another sore throat.
I wore my light blue Argentina football shirt, since the Erotic shirt didn’t work out in game 1 & 2. You know… trying to channel the Argentine fans energy (I’m thinking of you LatinD)... I think another Argentina style shirt may be in order for Game 4.
GO SPURS GO!
I am happy. I am proud. - Manu Ginobili
Guys and gals….
Been swamped with work this week so haven’t been around much, but when I have checked in, everything’s been dominated by trolls (obviously without jobs) pimping the hornets/suns. Take it from someone who works in media, responding or even acknowledging them is the ONLY thing giving them credibility. Completely ignore and dismiss these foo’s and they’ll quickly disappear to somewhere else that will give their small voices validation. There’s been some good hornet feedback mixed with the bad, but just overlook the ‘DRob is a joke,’ ‘the SPURS are done,’ ‘Manu is overrated,’ etc. comments and we won’t have to deal with them any longer! We all come here for SPURS homerism, there’s no doubt; and the occasional blowback is entertaining (though tiresome and annoying). But if you’re really, really tired of it and want to focus on lifting up the only dynasty standing today, simply don’t engage. These guys are all balls right now because they’re winning; they won’t be around much longer. Try and understand, when your biggest claim to fame as a franchise is Rex Chapman and you’re too lazy to rebuild a house or wet-vac a street, it’s easy to internet-antagonize other fan bases without using class.
We’re all in the family, and others just really badly want the same. Please, please stop giving them a voice. It was funny at first, but now it’s just frustrating. Let’s move on to Game 4 and recapturing this series.
I’m off my soapbox now… GO SPURS GO!!!
by SgtinManusArmy on May 9, 2008 10:35 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Totally depends on how uptight you are. Everyone here knows I tease and use sarcasm and cynicism, without directly attacking anyone in a ‘beyond-the-pale’ way. I was describing the now banned GS, not the fine upstanding trend-clinging new citizens of Nawlins. Sorry you got so offended.
by SgtinManusArmy on May 10, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
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