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Trimethylaminuria, folks.  Trimethylaminuria.  It's a rare metabolic disorder that prevents the proper catabolism pf tremethylamine.  The result is a faint to very strong, pervasive fish odor.  The sufferer could bathe five times a day and still smell like rotting fish.

It reminds me of most of the Spurs supporting cast.  Finley has no business playing in the NBA anymore, but the occasional big 3 masks the smell.  Bowen refuses to take only corner 3s on offense, but we let it slide because he can lock down on D.  Ime fumbles the ball out of bounds and goes long stretches where he looks like he'll miss fifty consecutive jumpers, but he's the only guy who just might punch a guy, so we ignore the fact he stinks.  Oberto can't guard anybody one and one and can't rebound, but he's crafty and an Argentine, so we just assume it's customary to bathe less in his country.  And Horry?  Well, we've all known Horry is dead for quite some time, but Pop apparently is immune to the smell of rotting flesh.

The Big Three have also been awful; don't get me wrong.  But they, at least, look like they can actually compete.  Everyone else, except maybe Kurt Thomas, looks outclassed.  Like they don't belong.  Like they've been exposed for the old, slow, stinky-ass, washed up veterans that they are.  Let's hope home court will get them out of their funk.

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re: class?

I never understand when people describe “class” to talk about the talent of a player…so if they’re better, they’re classier??

..I agree that our supporting cast is garbage..but Pop seems to get the most out of them..these guys wouldn’t get any PT if they were on any other decent team..Finley pisses me off b/c he can’t play defense, and it’s worse when he just jacks up 3’s and misses consecutively. Oberto..don’t get me started…Horry needs to retire…I think Ime will be better next year when he gets more comfortable w/ the system…

is it me or do shooters start to suck when they join the Spurs..(ie Horry, Barry, Finley, Stoudemire)..these guys, when we played them, seemed like they were automatic..but when they come here, they’re streaky at best and horrible at worst…

..sorry bout this, but had to vent after getting our ass whooped by the damn Hornets!

by vy til i die on May 5, 2008 11:36 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Yeah the whole class thing has to do with ranking, not characters. Certain things like cars are ranked in classes by SABC. C class being the lowest S class being the highest

So yeah Spurs put up two showings that make them look like a lottery team and the Hornets like the playoff tested veteran team.

by r21x on May 6, 2008 12:26 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

fuck

i can’t remember when i’ve felt so pessimistic about our chances. the worst part is it seems we don’t really give a shit about being so bad. no fire, no fight.

if we don’t blow out the NOOCH twice in games 3/4 to re-balance the competitiveness and confidence gap, we’re done.

by wangalusa on May 5, 2008 11:40 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Give a little credit to Brent, he has been playing well when he gets playing time..

I’ll keep saying this until I become bald…start Barry instead of Finley..he can pass and he is our best 3 point shooter, and when they double Tim we can rotate him the ball for wide open 3’s all day long.

Or fucking attack the basket.. when they double Tim instead of waiting at the 3 point line? If we aren’t hitting our 3 pointers cut to the basket and get layups..it isn’t that difficult is it?

by adam8065 on May 5, 2008 11:40 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

I guarantee we will these 2 games at home..I have absolutely no doubt we won’t win..I am a little afraid that we play like the Hawks in the Boston Garden and get blown out every time we are in New Olreans!

I have never worried about the Spurs not having home court advantage..this is the first time I’m actually worried that we can’t win in New Orleans.

by adam8065 on May 5, 2008 11:43 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

What

You have no doubt the Spurs won’ win? So you’re sure they’ll lose? Me too.

by mffeva on May 6, 2008 12:27 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Oh yeah

won’ means won’t

by mffeva on May 6, 2008 12:29 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

re:
no doubt we won’t win.
...for someone to talk mess, you sure need to get your eyes checked

by vy til i die on May 6, 2008 11:47 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Brent Barry can shoot a three!!!

He can stay… everyone else that combined for 4-for-22 has lost their 3 pt shooting privileges… BLOG and Tony included!

by Travis1310 on May 5, 2008 11:49 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

genius...

why didnt we think of this before? Lets get some axe up in these mugs real quick!

by morenogabr on May 5, 2008 11:53 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

It wasn't just the role players

Ton Parker was lost on D and tentative on O. Ginobili should have been a lot more tentative on Offense. How many turnovers did he have 6? 7? Shit, I think he just had another one. Duncan was on his game tonight, but he made the right play most of the time by kicking out of the double-team, it’s just too bad that no one except for Brent Barry decided to play well in addition to TD.

That being said, I think we will win games 3 and 4 to even this series up. We may even split 5 and 6 and be stuck having to win a game 7, but I believe that the Spurs can and will beat this team.

by pollackj on May 6, 2008 12:07 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

I wrote a brief, frustrated recap if anyone wants to check it out. Damn it tonight was frustrating:
http://48minutesofhell.blogspot.com/2008/05/half-and-half.html

by Kid_Dynamite on May 6, 2008 12:08 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

i agree with all this, but we are talking about a team that finished third in the most competitive conference ever, and only two games out of first; a team that literally destroyed the suns this year; and a team that features three of the best players in the game.

but…

- our role players don’t stay within (or even fill) their role anymore
- we seemingly don’t have any three shooters than can consistently space the floor and make it possible for tim to work the post, much less make it possible for tony or manu to drive
- manu is obviously hurt

part of me wonders if byron scott really found this team’s kryptonite, and he found it in the last place anyone looked. for all the talk of our execution, our poise, scott may have stumbled on the one way to make us beat ourselves.

by clogging the lane on every possession, we have to rely on outside shooting. we have guys that can make them, but all year it’s been the same story of streaky shooters. we can’t keep it up for an entire game. either we start cold or we finish cold. by doubling tim and keeping farther than five feet from the bucket, we can’t draw any fouls on their bigs, either. without that, the lane will never clear.

and then, after having the lane shut down, we start to shoot the bombs. and when they don’t fall, we panic. we shoot shots from farther out and in less time. we hurry and we panic.

but give the hornets credit. how many times did you expect an open look and then see a hornets defender right there within a second?

what may be worse, i can’t think of one mismatch we can force. before the series, i would have said manu could get past anyone the hornets put on them, but he’s obviously slowed from the ankle and groin injuries. goddamn washed-up peja stojakovic is blowing by him… and staying in front of him.

this is a tough one. but here goes with some suggestions…

- put bowen on peja, but parker has to stay in front of paul. when paul gets in front of him, duncan has to move up and chandler gets an easy oop.
- play duncan on west some, but not the whole game. however, in all cases when chandler is on the bench, do not have duncan “guarding” melvin ely with west on the court.
- tell bowen the next time he shoots seven shots in a half (that weren’t open corner threes) is the last time he plays a half. but, if he’s going to shoot, have him run off some screens so paul isn’t just resting. of course, this could really backfire is the officiating doesn’t even out.
- play barry. this should be obvious.
- bring duncan out of the paint on pick and pops or just have him stand there. this can either draw chandler out of the post or give duncan a mismatch he can shoot over. i can’t believe i’m advocating this, but right now i’d rather have duncan shooting 15-footers than any of our “three point specialists” looking for their touch in the middle of a playoff game. thomas can do this, too. when the hornets try to adjust by having peja or wright rotate over, swing the ball until the defense breaks down. it should.

more than anything, though, just play better. don’t get frustrated. don’t look for threes to catch up. get a two, get back and get a stop. isn’t that our MO? what happend to that?

you ain't a beauty but hey you're all right.

by kalone on May 6, 2008 12:37 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

I am sticking to what I said originally. Coming in this reminded me of an 06 Mavs team. At that time they still had Harris and M. Daniels. They were more athletic than us and lets face it, more hungry. This past off season Pop told everyone “enjoy this one more than previous ones” That’s because Pop isn’t dumb and he knows we’re done for. Our time has passed us by. Even if we get by the Hornets the Lakers are going to dominate us. I hate the Hornets so much, if they beat us I want the Lakers to destroy them. Why is everyone so calm? I can’t handle this right now.

by speedostuffer on May 6, 2008 1:00 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Because we’re only down 2 games and the next 2 at our house. 2 full days of rest and enough time to prepare. If we would have played great “Spurs” type games and lost these past 2 games then I would be worried. But lets be real… we’ve played like shit. And we can’t make a shot to save our lives. Are shooters are missing wide open shots. If we get back to playing our style of ball, we will be fine. And don’t forget, we were down by 2 games against the 06 Mavs and came back. Go take a Zanex and chiiiiiiill.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on May 6, 2008 11:12 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

We were never down 2-0 to the Mavs. We won game 1 in 06…I’m almost positive of this. Also I know we aren’t playing spurs basketball but I think it’s much in part to the Hornets. I hate sounding like a nay sayer but everything I’ve seen so far and everything I can for see leads me to believe we’re done… And I’m sad for this.

by speedostuffer on May 6, 2008 8:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I never said we were down 2-0 to the mavs. We were down 2 games when we trailed them 3-1 in the series….

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on May 6, 2008 8:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hmmm, I thought we lost Game 1 when they went 49-50 from the line. Bennett Salvatore was one of the officials.

Crap, you are right. That was a different series. We won Game 1 on a Sunday morning and then got crushed in Game 2 when the crowd started chanting “Javie Sucks”.

by AusTechSpur on May 6, 2008 8:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yeah we won game 1 and then lost the next 3. With our back against the wall we won the next 2 to force game 7.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on May 6, 2008 8:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I was actually more pissed off when the Spurs tanked after the all-star break, and then went on that mini-slump to tend the season. They had their chances to take a commanding lead in the West, but they had poor showings against just about every decent team they played.

But that doesn’t mean I am not pissed right now. We are watching some garbage basketball by our Spurs. WTF is wrong with Manu? Yes, I know he has a nagging injury, but he is playing like a rookie. He has made some very ill-timed turnovers and fouls lately. Mentally he just does not appear to be there. You half expect Parker to go through some lunacy facing his “buddy” Paul, but what is Manu’s excuse for losing his mind?

How disappointing to see Mo Pete go 5-5. This is a guy who typically takes bad shots. It is great that his confidence is sky high now.

I think Pop needs to restrict Horry and Vaughn to the garbage time lineup. The rotation should be shortened. Finley should be benched in favor of Barry or Manu. Thomas should play more minutes, and Oberto should only be used if he is in foul trouble. Udoka sould play whenever Wells is in the game. When Parker needs a rest, Barry or Manu can handle the rock.

It might be time to move Bowen to Peja. Chris Paul will get his points. Just try and stop everyone else and let Tony see if he can actually play a little defense for once.

by VWolf on May 6, 2008 2:20 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

We need to sic Bowen on Peja and Manu on CP. We also need to stop going over the screens and make CP a jumpshooter. If CP scores 30 on jump shots, then that’s fine. But TP going over screens is allowing CP to break our defense down.

by beachwood on May 6, 2008 1:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

NUTSHELLL: don't bode well

They lost both games in identical fashion: No second half against a much younger, more energetic team. Spurs almost always get blown out at least once, but two games in a row? It’s not likely that they’ll get swept – and hey sports fans, let’s keep it real: THE SPURS ARE STILL IN THIS THING – but this could very well be the turning point for the franchise. If they do get beat up here (i.e., don’t at least make the full run to seven games) then they had better make some serious changes in the off season if they hope to be competitive next year. Failure to inject some new, more aggressive blood, to get rid of their older guys (not the big 3, of course, but virtually everyone else) will mean that the franchise as we know it will be finished.

One must react to the times, or perish. The Spurs got plenty of life left in them no matter what happens this season/series. The kiss of death, however, would be to lose and then simply try again next year, essentially intact. Evolve or die, Pop.

Just my humble opinion, of course. After all, I still think they’re going to win this series. How? One huge blow out of this young team Thursday will get into their heads far worse than these two losses have gotten to the Spurs’. It ain’t over til it’s over, boys. Oooo-rah.

by spursfanhollywood on May 6, 2008 2:37 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

They lost game 3 to Dallas and seemed to bounce back just fine.

Allez Spurs!

by JustinBK on May 6, 2008 8:39 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I am sick and tired of the stupid boo-birds, and fucking Chris Paul that punk.

by Linix129 on May 6, 2008 8:59 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

we have to move Bowen on Peja, and take him out of the game..Paul is going to score his points so no reason to waste Bowen on him. On West use all 3 defenders against him plain and simple.

And damn please stop having Parker guard Peterson, Peterson is garbage but since he is 5 inches taller than Tony he can catch and shoot over him, and he can post him up too!

No more Finley, give all his minutes to Barry..and have Barry guard Peterson.

We have to start shooting our 3 point shots better because the Hornets are going to give us those shots all series.

And maybe the Spurs can cut to the basket as soon as they double Tim, you know get a layup or two!

by adam8065 on May 6, 2008 9:05 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

RANT: I woke up with one word on my lips: “RoHo.” RoHo has got to go. He’s terrible. It’s like watching an old man in a pickup game out there.

I hope the Spurs have been coasting and letting the proverbial “rabbit” get out in front of them. I hope they have that kind of focus, energy, and strategy still in store. “Let’s let these guys win and couple and then watch them implode.” Really, are we that good? Is any NBA team that good (confident?) so as to allow an opponent to win two uncontested games in a row and then bounce back convincingly?

Let’s start with Gino, the heart and soul of the Spurs as far as I’m concerned. His play in this series has been downright atrocious. The three dribbling turnovers in the second half were absolute bonehead plays that gave them easy buckets and momentum. In classic Ginobili fashion he then tries to immediately make up for it with an errant pass to Oberto (which ALMOST NEVER WORKS!!!!) or take an uncontested three. Note to Gino: they know you’re injured and they’ll let you shoot a three with no legs under you all day, buddy. Pass the rock (but not to Oberto slashing to the low post). Or take the rock on one leg and throw your body at someone to get to the line.

Our front line’s athleticism and, in turn, age are being challenged by West and Chandler. We have no answer for CP3. Fine. But several times Duncan just sat there as CP3 took a floater over him. No attempt at a block, stepping up, anything. Is Duncan tired too? Thomas has got to continue start and play aggressive on Chandler and keep him away from the rim at all times. ALSO, the plan of positing Chandler up and taking him to the rim does get him in foul trouble. This strategy worked. Keep that. (Yay! Something positive.) ALSO, why did Tim not abuse Ely on the low post? The answer I’ve heard is he’s double teamed?? Then Tim should make a quicker move/pass and get the ball under the basket!!! I’m no POP but cutting to the rim (back cuts, front cuts, screens, screen-n-rolls) are essential against these guys. In the second half, I just saw us running a lot of half-court sets and settling for a 20 foot jumper. Disappointing and low percentage shots.

Bowen has got to take out Peja. Sad to say but Manu cannot guard Peja anymore and is allowing him 23.5 a game. Wow. How the mighty Gino has fallen. We should have probably sat Gino for Game 1 if it meant he might have been even a little healthier down the road. We’re not going anywhere with a gimpy Manu who cannot even defend Peja. I can already see us in LA and its not pretty.

Stick Barry on MoPete AND START BARRY. I won’t count on MoPete going 5/5 on the road.

I’m so pissed at the Spurs right now for showing a general lack of heart and killer instinct. This is not the team I have been watching in the Phoenix series and is certainly more of the SpurRS . The “oh well, we’ll get ‘em next time” kills me. Someone get pissed! Someone take it to the rack WITH AUTHORITY. The Big 3 have been somewhere between sucking and inconsistent (on my handy at-home scale) and our role players have disappeared. I heard someone say on the broadcast last night that it looks like we’re hung over from the Phoenix series. Eh, maybe? I would just say the lanes are suddenly clogged, the shots are not falling, and we do look a little drained (especially Parker and Gino). Do we have have enough to take two games from these guys at home? I hope so. But then again, I’m a pessimist when it comes to the Spurs.

I will now stop thinking about the game...but thanks for letting me vent.  I love me some PtR.  Its awesome to have a forum to talk strategy and just about anything else.  Thanks for making this happen, Stampler, Powell, and, uh, everybody else.

Allez Spurs!

by JustinBK on May 6, 2008 9:37 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

game 3 is a must win. if the spurs drop this game, its over. the problem i have is they play well in the first half of these games. they compete and keep it close. the 2nd half they let little bastard cousin chris paul go to town all over our faces. west is doing what he wants and new orleans is making us look like a bunch of old men… which we are. but we are still capable of taking this damn series in san antonio, tie it up and go back to NO then win that game and make every person in that god awful building throw up all over their vomit colored yellow shit shirts. ok, seriously, we need to put this bullshit 2nd half play back in the closet and quit fucking around… are the spurs trying to just make this an interesting series? are they thinking championship dvd? are they wanting this to be the time they “almost” let the trophy get away? i am just hoping all this will be a laughing matter of the past while we all clink beers about how we thought the spurs were losing their back to back. fuck!

moognish

yeah, the spurs are boss

by moognish on May 6, 2008 10:30 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

I’m gonna start my own website, here are some domain names I’ve come up with:

firepop.com
firechipenglland.com
banishmichaelfinleytothebenchforever.com
manuhadmoreturnoversthanabakery.com
givebarrymoreminutes.com
wtfishorrydoingoutonthecourt.com
jacquevauhgnisnospeedyclaxton.com

I mean, come on, seriously, don’t we have a “shooting coach”? WTF is he teaching? How to take jello shots? I knew TP’s Game 3 v. Phoenix was a fluke. They couldn’t make a jump shot to save their lives. Finely is old and slow and needs to be benched! Start Manu, give Bones more minutes. The Spurs looked liked Dorothy’s sidekicks on the court, no heart, no brain and no courage. PATHETIC!

I think NO has overtaken the Spurs and the new kings of the flop, especially VD3.

"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"

by SinCitySpur on May 6, 2008 11:11 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

I disagree. Manu needs to come off the bench. He needs the pressure to get things going from the bench while Tony and Tim rest. And regardless, he’s still going to be on the floor with Tim and Tony for the end of the game. We should start Bones over Finley because he’s fresh and has found his shooting stroke. And we’re not giving up anything on D, since Finley can’t play D anyway. AND IT’S TIME TO GET PHYSICAL WITH PAUL. LET’S QUIT BITCHING (me included) ABOUT HIM FLOPPING AND ROUGH THIS GUY UP. I’m talking about some hard (circa 1980’s style) fouls here.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on May 6, 2008 11:20 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Agree

Someone needs to put MP3 on his butt. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not condoning anything violent, maybel in the flagrant 1 category. Send a message like Phoenix tried (and failed) to do with TP. They say we are a “dirty” team, might as well live up to it.

"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"

by SinCitySpur on May 6, 2008 6:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yes, please, all of you quit b*tching about the flopping

You have Manu on your team, people, the Divac of the 21st century.

by Honka Playboy on May 7, 2008 1:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Welcome to Hell, we've saved some seats for you

If it’s any consolation, know that Phoenix Suns fans are enjoying this immensely. How did you put it…oh, yes…

We fucking dominated those fucknuts, didn’t we?

Karma’s a bitch, eh?

by SoCalSun on May 6, 2008 11:19 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Lol

Down 2 games is Hell? Hey, we lost these games by playing shitty basketball. I would be demoralized if say… we went toe-to-toe with these guys and they beat us in double OT. It’s obvious we’ve blown donkey balls these two games. Let’s see what happens when we figure these guys out and start knocking down some shots.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on May 6, 2008 11:27 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

you are the voice of reason!

by efantich on May 6, 2008 12:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

You are the light.

Haha.

Allez Spurs!

by JustinBK on May 6, 2008 3:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Karma? The Spurs are still the better team than the Suns 4-1. Your coach is gone. You are mired in Shaq’s fat contract. Hll, Nash, and the Big Fatass are all in various states of decrepitude. You gave away your 2010 pick (which will be a lottery pick). The Spurs still have 4 rings and no matter what happens this season they will be a contender next year. Now what was it that brought on all this bad karma for the Suns again?

by VWolf on May 6, 2008 11:35 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

speaking of contracts...

Duncan’s runs two years longer than Shaq’s. How steep is TD’s decline going to be? Hard to tell.

Hill is only on the books for $2 million next year, and Nash only has one more year of guarenteed money – 09/10 the team has an option. They have some contracts, Diaw and Barbarosa’s, which might look dumb in a couple of years, but their cap obligations are about the same as yours.

From a Disinterested Party

by Honka Playboy on May 7, 2008 2:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Actually, when looking at Duncan’s style of play, his ability to keep himself in shape, etc a lot of observers are predicting that he will be able to play well much longer than most big men. He doesn’t rely on quickness or jumping ability to do what he does, he relies on his long arms, good basketball IQ and good positioning. None of those things have to decline with age.

Also, even if we are in the same position that the Suns are in, we’ve won our 4 championships. Even if we don’t win another for 20 years we will still (most likely) be in a better position than Phoenix. That makes me feel good.

by pollackj on May 8, 2008 3:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i agree.. time to rough up little ass cousin

yeah, the spurs are boss

by moognish on May 6, 2008 11:30 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

hmm.

first off:

Brent Barry does not suck (to a previous post above). He is the only person on the team that looks like they give two shits about this series.

And with all the male loving this blog does for manu, where are the posts about how shitty he’s been playing. I don’t care if he’s injured, play like a man. Have some pride. Stop turning the ball over. Old Manu was hurt during the ‘05 Finals, and he tore it up game 6 and 7. He needs to be punched in the face, then maybe he’ll play harder.

My ideal starting five:
Tim
Kurt
Bowen
Barry
TP

These are the only other people that should come off the bench:
Manu
JV (fuck you, he’s been playing decent recently)
Fab (only when paired with Manu)
Ime (never with Bowen on the floor)

I’m not worried yet. We played like shit and were in it for most of the game, except one quarter. Everyone here just needs to relax. We’re in no position to panic yet.

by efantich on May 6, 2008 11:48 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

re:Fab

I hate to be a “what if” person…but don’t you think we should’ve paid Scola’s fucking contract instead of Oberto?...God Oberto is sorry!...how many passes can you drop and how many easy layups can you miss..just reach up and fucking dunk it!

by vy til i die on May 6, 2008 12:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

facts

Actually Oberto has the highest shooting % of the post season for any Spurs, and the second highest Assist/Turnover ratio.

Granted he doesn’t get alot of shots because we have TD, but still.

by efantich on May 6, 2008 12:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   1 recs

JV has been playing decent[ly]? Yeah, I really love how he came in last night and promptly turned the ball over at a critical point. Just like on Saturday when he ran the worst fast break ever. JV is worthless in this matchup. He is just another guy the Hornets do not have to guard and he is overrated on defense.

My ideal lineup:
Tony (gets to play D on C-Flop3)
Barry (guards Mo Pete)
Bowen (put him on Peja)
Thomas (but give him 35 minutes if his fouls allow it)
Duncan

Manu
Udoka (when Wells comes in)
Fabi (Whenever Thomas can’t be on the floor, hopefully just 13 minutes)

Finley, Horry, and JV can get some minutes in garbage time after we are up 20 plus on them in the second half.

by VWolf on May 6, 2008 1:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

C-Flop3???

Spurs fans have no room to call out anyone for flopping. There are youtube highlight reels of Ginobli’s best flops. Horry has had his fair share as well. Kurt Thomas flopped on contact from a teammate in the Sun’s series to draw a foul.

by D3R3K on May 6, 2008 2:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

You have no room to call anyone out for calling anyone out on flopping. I know that every team has floppers (the Mavs have plenty of them too), but C-Flop3’s flops are the most ridiculous flops ever. Who else flops during a dead ball situation? Maybe he is just really bad at it, or he doesn’t conceal it well, but he looks like whining little rag-doll out there.

by VWolf on May 6, 2008 3:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I agree that was a bad flop when CP3 fell from light contact with Bowen after the foul was called. (On as side note: Bowen should be suspended for all of his ditry shenanigans. It is disgusting how he gets away with his move where he sticks his foot under the shooter when they are landing.) I am just saying that there is no room to complain about it when the Spurs have some of the worst offenders in the league on their team. I think flopping should be a technical foul and a fine. Vlade Divac should be punished for bringing this awful sickness into the game!

by D3R3K on May 7, 2008 12:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Don't forget about...

Tony Parker…or Nash, Bell, Iverson, Nowitzki, Fisher…there is an endless list of floppers in the league.

by Gino20 on May 6, 2008 3:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I can agree that Paul

does flop some. But Bowen runs into him and tries to look innocent. I hate flopping no matter where it comes from.

by mffeva on May 6, 2008 10:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i have to just say anytime you are down 0-2 in a seven game series, its time to worry. especially when both wins were blowouts. like i said, our 2nd half game is worthless. if we drop this next game, start packing up your lawn chair and parade cooler… i want to have the passion to think we could be the only team to get out of the 3 game hole but… no. we do not have the team to do that. its the nba, anything can happen right? now think of that as a new orleans fan. time to get scrappy.

fucking fuck,
moognish

yeah, the spurs are boss

by moognish on May 6, 2008 12:05 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

whatever happens, happens. Either the Spurs make adjustments or they will lose. Pop will put Bowen on Peja because he knows that Bowen can shut his ass down.

My biggest concern is Manu’s injury…we aren’t going to win anything without him being around 85 to 100%. I’ve only seen him attack the basket maybe 3 times in 2 games. I wish we had a better medical staff!!!

But I still have faith and always will!

by adam8065 on May 6, 2008 12:30 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

I don’t even know what to say. I don’t even recognize this team. How many three’s do you have to miss to know your shots aren’t falling. Cut to the Goddamn basket!!!! How in the hell does Peja Stojakovic get 10 open looks? How is it that I realized it would be critical to take him out of the game before Pop did? Bowen should have been on him from the start of the series. Bowen can’t guard Paul anyway, but he can slow Peja. I know Goddamn well we aren’t the only ones that can see that. What the hell is Pop doing? This isn’t the regular season anymore, stop f*cking playing Horry!!!!! Shit, this is vexing!! I can’t stop typing !!!! More Bones, less Fin. Hopefully the home venue will change things, but it isn’t going to be a cure-all. Also since when, did this team give up open layups. Hit somebody!!!! Game 3 can’t get here soon enough.

I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor

by DennardC on May 6, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Wow

You guys lost 2 on the road to a great team. The sky is not falling. Plus, even if you do lose you have 4 trophies to console yourselves with. I’d give a finger to be in your position right now.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on May 6, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

That’s great that the Spurs have won 4 chips. What does that have to do with this series? Obviously in the the grand scheme of things it’s just basketball and there are far more important things happening. Yet, the last 2 games the Spurs have played have been like watching 2 horrible movies. That’s how I see it. Awful coaching and awful shooting/defense have been akin to awful writing and awful acting. Don’t get me wrong I love this team and am in awe of what they have accomplished, but that doesn’t matter to me at the moment.

I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor

by DennardC on May 6, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

we will forever be able to use the 4 chips argument in bar rooms, but its not gonna fly very well at the moment. that’s for sure.

i may be the only one to say this, but i dont mind getting a few mintues of roho here and there – he is SO not the problem. here’s where i will agree with everyone else. bowen on peja. the thing about bowen on paul is not just that paul can get by him, its also that tony then has to get a size mismatch with mo pete and peja gets either a gambler like manu, or an old guy that he can easily escape like fin or barry. planning it up that way really tosses the whole scehme out of whack.

but that’s just one side of the ball – the NOOCH are completely out working SA on the other end as well. they are playing hard on D, getting loose balls and rebounding well. they get open looks leading to made shots or scambling defenders/offensive boards while we get contested shots and no rebounds. not a formula that will produce many wins.

think for a minute about the spurs formula. keep exectuing, keep pounding the rock, keep playing smart and work hard. how many games have you seen the spurs win simply because the other team lost its composure, or got away from their game plan? many, many times. if the spurs formula strays ever so slighly, the whole cart can go over quick. we dont have the young hard streetballers that everyone loves to overcome mistakes in the formula (this is the only part of the old/slow crap that i will buy).

we gotta do what we do best – and no, i dont have answers for why that didnt happen in game 2. but give the NOOCH some due here, when a talented team like that plays that well, they are hard to beat. we beat them earlier in the year by being physical – where has that kind of play been? time to reacquaint ourselves with it – and fast.

by bones on May 6, 2008 3:58 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

The party is over.

Time for the Spurs fans to come to the same conclusion the Suns fans have and that it is over. Tim Duncan (or Kobe Bryant) can not win a championship alone. Parker is a ball hog who only passes the ball when he is double teamed and Floppy is old and bald. Time for both fan bases to get our head out of our asses and admit the future is with the young teams that can run and gun. That is not the Spurs or the Suns anymore.

by TheTruthSquad on May 6, 2008 4:29 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

FLOPPY IS NOT BALD YOU FUCKING KERFUFFLE-TOUCHER.

by Matthew Powell on May 6, 2008 4:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

re:

but i thought the Suns did “run and gun”...and where did that get ya’ll? i believe yall played us better when yall traded for some toughness in Shaq…I will not concede to your opinion that we are done. With adjustments, we can right the ship, especiallly by getting tougher on these lil’ bitches

by vy til i die on May 6, 2008 4:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Why do you keep trying to equate the Spurs to the Suns? The Suns are nothing. The Spurs are 4 time world champs and currently in the playoffs. Also, don’t be so hard on Floppy Bell. He is bald, but he is not a bad player and not really that old yet.

by VWolf on May 6, 2008 7:13 PM CDT