The Spurs weren't who we hoped they were
The Rorschach inkblot test. You probably know it. It's used by psychologists to examine personality characteristics. The subject looks at an abstract inkblot and verbally responds to it.
Show a Spurs logo to most NBA fans and you'll hear a litany of accusations: floppers, whiners, dirty, boring, all-that's-wrong-with-the-NBA. They, of course, would be somewhat right. For comparison, someone who looks at the Grand Canyon and says "I see a rock" is somewhat right. There are rocks in the Grand Canyon. A man often sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest.
But there's more there. You just have to step back to see it.
Spurs fans have a different vision. They see consistent lock-down defense and finely executed offense. There's Manu Ginobili, the rightful MVP of the 2005 finals, Olympic champion, clutch performer and fierce competitor. There's Tony Parker, the one man fast break who, when he puts his mind to it, cannot be kept out the paint. There's Tim Duncan, the best power forward ever and arguably the most effective NBA player since Michael Jordan. You put those guys together and you get game 3 of the Phoenix series, where the Spurs shot 56%, never trailed and disemboweled the Suns by 16. No team in the NBA could have touched the Spurs that night.
But there's less there. You just have to step forward to see it.
The Spurs were a figment of our collective imagination all year.
The fans, the management and the players all fiercely held on to the same belief: no matter how good the opponent, no matter how dangerous the playoff path, no matter how pathetic the Spurs' supporting cast, the Big Three were good enough to pull us through. After all, they had done this before, right?
Right. They had. But the Spurs are no longer "they." They are all too much in the present tense. The present Manu Ginobili, even with a healthy ankle, lacks the explosion and deadliness of the version in our heads. Today's Tim Duncan just put up the lowest playoff shooting percentage of his career (and his second worst effort in terms of blocked shot per game). This is not criticism. This is just reality.
Reality is something Spurs management conveniently avoided all season. Key players such as Michael Finley, Jacque Vaughn and Robert Horry were given playing time despite doing nothing this year to show they deserved it. The best attribute of the three of them was Finley's 37% shooting from three, good for 63rd in the league. 63rd. For a guy who took maybe ten contested threes all season. He couldn't create his own shot, create shots for others or play anything other than barely adequate defense. And he played 27 minutes a game. If he was a 22 year old nobody instead of Michael Finley he wouldn't have made it out of training camp.
I don't mean to sound negative and bitter. That's not how I feel. More than anything I'm sad, but not for me. I feel bad for Tim, Manu and Tony. They were good enough this year to repeat as champions. They dragged a bunch of scrubs deep into the Western Conference playoffs, carrying 98% of the workload between the three of them. They deserved a better chance than the front office gave them.
As for next year, it's obviously time to reload, and in a big way. We'll have plenty of time to talk about that later.
Wrapping up some loose blog ends:
1) Thanks to everybody for reading / participating. I didn't have as much time for this blog as I would have liked this season, but it didn't suffer from much (if at all) from my absence. The game threads were especially beautiful; some of ya'll's is funny.
2) Thanks to AusTechSpur for handling the game threads. This place probably would have fallen apart without you.
3) Thanks to Michael Erler for the writing. You have a gift. Thanks for sharing.
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Congrats on a great season
The Spurs may be eliminated but they are still a goo team..
One thing that I would disagree is about Manu… He certainly was injured in the WC finals. Yes, he had a horrendous series but he was the major reason the Spurs got to this place. Where would they have been without him this past season..
But I agree with you, the bench of the Spurs is very old and very bad… that was probably the difference in the series. I think the average age of the bench is over 35! The Lakers are much deeper, younger, and more skilled coming off th bench.
No shame in losing to a better team. The Lakers are just on a roll right now…
What is a scary thought is that even it they don’t add a single player from the draft of FA, they’ll probably be even better next year.
by x10dude on May 30, 2008 12:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good summary
One slight disagreement. Bruce Bowen isn’t a scrub. And he was a big part of the workload.
by 4Him on May 30, 2008 12:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bruce Bowen will also be 38 next year.
by Jeffrey on May 30, 2008 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But we are talking about the season that just finished. And BB will be 37 years old next year. Maybe he won’t play the # of minutes that he did this year, but he’s still in great shape.
Not only did Bruce make Kobe Bryant work very hard for his shots, but Kobe only shot 11 free throws during the series.
by 4Him on May 30, 2008 1:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he was by far the best Spur in the WCF.
by JamesR on May 30, 2008 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was. Probably made some mistakes, but I didn’t notice them. Played great defense, almost never fouled Bryant on the shot, and contributed better (percentage wise) than most of his teammates on the offensive end, knocking down some unusual two-point shots, too.
Form is emptiness
by Kalkin on May 30, 2008 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you...
Someone had to point out that Bowen was good for us, and great on Kobe this series. Sure, he’s older. Sure, he might not be as good a defender as he was even a few years ago. But he’s still first team defense every year, and he showed why in the playoffs. And he can still bag that corner 3.
I thought Bowen had a great WCF this year. Noone can keep Kobe from getting his, but Bruce made him work AND kept him off the line. That’s the best we could’ve hoped for and he delivered.
Also, I realize that Udoka is no spring chicken, but hopefully Bruce can mentor him and make him even more effective on D than he already is.
by Foodbag on May 31, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love your site, and I appreciate the friendly (sometimes) banter. Hope to speak to you all next May…..
by pslakerfan on May 30, 2008 2:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Count on it
We’ll give y’all a better series next time. Thanks for coming ‘round.
by 4Him on May 30, 2008 3:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry one team had to lose
Hello folks – I’ve been reading periodically, having been sent over here from Forum Blue and Gold – yes, I am indeed a Lakers fan, my apologies.
I wanted to jump in and note what a great community you have here, and that you follow a really spectacular team. The Spurs exhibited nothing but class, and as many have said the Lakers could very easily have been going into this game down 1-3 instead of up 3-1.
While I noticed in your 2nd-half thread you feared the arrival of ‘douchebag gloaters,’ I hope you won’t think of me as such. Instead, please believe me when I say that I just wanted to let you know that there are plenty of LAL fans who really admire your organization and what it has accomplished over the past decade.
I can’t honestly wish you TOO much luck (you know how it goes), but I hope you all have as pleasant an off-season as possible. I’m sure we’ll see you in the playoffs again next year.
Same time, same place?
More from UB at 'In the Shadows'
by Underbruin on May 30, 2008 4:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From a Laker fan
I have been a Laker fan since early childhood, and will always be, but I want to express respect for Tim and the Spurs. Duncan’s one for the ages—a class guy, and I get far less pleasure from the Spurs, and Pop, losing than say, Phoenix.
by ahem on May 30, 2008 8:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
to me, the bottom line on this series was the lakers ability to turn it up a notch on us whenever they wanted/needed. yeah, their bench was good, but i really attribute this to kobe bryant. he is in one of those zones where he controls almost every aspect of the game. the spurs were never able to respond to it. but what team has?
no problems with bowen or barry coming back. those guys were great in the play-offs and showed why the spurs invested in them. on brent, he showed the kind of fire in games 4 and 5 of the series that i have never seen out of him. where has that brent barry been during his spurs career?
i have really grown to like kurt thomas over the last several weeks. he should go, but i will miss him. perhaps it would work out on a different roster make-up. we need to get younger and stronger at the other big position and one of fab or thomas will have to go – and it aint gonna be fab.
obviously fin and horry will be gone. they didnt give us this season what they gave us last – and in previous seasons, but i very much value their previous contributions. particularly in the case of RoHo. without him, there would be no 2005 championship at minimum.
the spurs should be a serious contender for the title every year that tim, manu and tony are still around. i dont think manu’s game has stepped down at all. i really think that injury and fatigue caught him at times during these play-offs. this is just one of the many many reasons that make it so tough to repeat. he was a flat beast until his late season groin and ankle injuries. he showed some flashes during the course of the play-offs, but not the consistent ability to impose his will. you surely don’t think he will lose that over the course of a couple of weeks.
the organization has taken some beating for not being able to fill in around the big 3 adequately. over the years, they have had to gamble on guys given their draft order. luck is always part of this equation, but i have faith that they can attract a couple of high quality guys to come in and bolster the troops. they were diligent enough to plan for the necessary re-tool without disrupting the team’s core.
for most teams, a conference final appearance is s successful season. we are fortunate that the spurs are such a team that does not accept this as its fate. i think that honestly, we can all agree that the spurs are one of the top 4 teams in the league. and that we all hoped they would do better than that – but are any among us really shocked that the spurs bowed out where they did? we noticed their weaknesses all year.
this year’s west was a gauntlet of epic proportions, but it did show us where the division was in the conference. to me, it loks like the spurs wil have plenty of company among the conference elite next year whether its NOOCH, LA, utah or houston. spurs are in for as fight to get another title over the next season or two, but isnt that the way it always is?
it will also be hard to break the habit of coming round here to talk up the spurs with all of you. i’m sure we will hang around a bit over the summer, but i will surely miss the in-season banter. this is a great site and i want to extend my sincere appreciation to powell/stampler/ATS for creating and keeping this machine oiled. i am amazed at how this site has grown since i first started chirping in late last season. seriously, thanks.
by bones on May 30, 2008 8:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
indeed
only because i’m indulging in one of the two activities in my namesake, i’ll simply state that i completely 100% agree with your last paragraph (i agree with the whole comment too, but that paragraph specifically).
gospursgo. hook 'em. metal rules. ganja rules.
by metalandganja on May 30, 2008 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manu will be fine here is what he said after the game..I wish he was healthy..but there is always next year!
May 30, 2008
Tom Orsborn: Manu says ankle won’t keep him out of Olympics
LOS ANGELES – Manu Ginobili finally admitted his sore left ankle hampered him throughout the Western Conference finals.
“I’m not in my best shape ever,” the Spurs guard said after Game 5. “I never felt like this in (past seasons). It was kind of hard for me to fight through it and forget it. I tried to play aggressively regardless. I tried to let the game come to me, and that didn’t work. It was frustrating.”
Ginobili said results of an MRI on the ankle were negative.
“It didn’t show much other than swelling,” Ginobili said.
Asked if it would prevent him from playing for Argentina in the Olympics this summer, Ginobili said confidently, “It will be fine.”
In 31 minutes off the bench Thursday, Ginobili notched nine points, seven rebounds, three assists and two blocks. He also had three turnovers. The ankle certainly was a factor in Ginobili’s sub-par play throughout the series, but he said credit should also be given to the Lakers defense.
“They played hard on me,” Ginobili said. “They played good defense on me, and I wasn’t ready.”
by adam8065 on May 30, 2008 10:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i hope this off-season is filled with people trying to write manu’s obituary, or saying that he has lost his explsiveness or something silly of that nature. this past season was his best ever and a mere glimpse of what is to come. this is a man, that in his prime, can play with anyone on the planet.
by bones on May 30, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lakers Fan Here
Wanted to say thanks for having a great blog and community here.
I think the Spurs are in fine shape, but they definitely need to have some roster additions if they want to be considered elite - but even with no roster additions they would be a 50+ win team and a threat to knock you out of the playoffs - more than teams like Phoenix and Dallas. Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, and Manu Ginobli is a great start to any team. I honestly would not criticize the Spurs management for being unable to support the Big 3 - they’ve done a good job getting tough nosed players who play defense and understand their roles. In my opinion, this time they ran into a a team that is both younger and more talented - and who have the killer instinct (Kobe) that teams like Dallas and Phoenix just don’t have.
As far as Kobe being “in the zone” during the series - I’m not sure I agree with that statement. He is playing well - but he wasn’t unconscious - like when he put up 81 vs the raptors. I think the key is his new found trust of his teammates and their own maturation/improvement - he is afforded a lot more room (except in the final minutes)—and takes a lot fewer horrible shots.
I would also like to thank the Memphis Grizzlies for giving us the best gift possible—Pau Gasol. I’m excited not only for the finals this year but next year playing with Bynum©, Gasol (PF), Odom (SF), Kobe (SG), FIsher/Farmer (PG). That team would be scary!
by lalalakers on May 30, 2008 10:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hehe
bynum’s copyrighted!!
gospursgo. hook 'em. metal rules. ganja rules.
by metalandganja on May 30, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One problem I see there
Odom being in a contract year next year. He’s going to be playing for a huge contract, and the slightest hint of things not going the Lakers’ way (long losing streak, some “Phoenix like” issues in the locker room, where Kobe is far from Mr. Locker room fixer-upper….could cause him to be discontent. Also, players in contract years are well known to do everything they can to show up and impress people about them. On a team with Kobe, Gasol, and now Bynum, where will Odom fit?
Also, with Odom wanting a huge contract, the Lakers can resign him due to Bird rights I think, but would you destroy your cap room and not let them sign Bynum ? ( I think there is a limit to how many bird people you can use…either 1 or 2. )
"This team is like a bunch of cockroaches. They just don't die!" -Charles Barkley, after Game 7 vs. the NOOCH.
The "I'm gonna rip the eyes out of your head and piss into your dead skull! You f***ed with the wrong Marine!" face. Because Popovich can be kinda scary.
by Nixiack on May 30, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely a problem........
The money that is. Odom does not want to be the man. He wants to be the man behind the man behind the man. He would be happy with 10 pts. 10 rebs. and 5 assists. The money however is a problem. The Lakers will be way over the cap if they sign Bynum to a max. extension, which they may. Odom’s contract is the first one up and he is making about 12-14 million. Not sure of the exact amount. I don’t think he will get that much anywhere else, especially as a 3rd or 4th option on offense.
Again…......time will tell.
by pslakerfan on May 30, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hadn't seen you much since the game, but glad to see you now.
It’s been fun with you lately on PtR, and you’re forever welcome. Congrats again on the series. You guys deserved it and were clearly the better team. Good luck against boston. We’ll be waiting for you next year, as you run into the juggernaut that is “the San Antonio SPURS on an odd year.” Take care, and come back to say hey every now and again.
by SgtinManusArmy on May 30, 2008 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn, forgot about the odd year thing, lol
see ya.
by pslakerfan on May 31, 2008 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's just it about Odom
The Lakers can go over the cap due to the Larry Bird rule (just read it) that will allow them to keep thier own free agents and sign them to max deals, etc. and that allows them to go over the cap to do so. Problem is, Odom is NOT worth 13-14 mil a year. If they can get him to agree to about ….7-9 mil (like Manu) then I can see them signing him and Bynum. But with Bynum commanding max, Gasol commanding max, Odom commanding max(or even at 9 mil), and of course, Kobe getting more than all of them--because he will..that will put the Lakers very close to over the cap with just 4 players. With Turiaf and a few others off the books this season, and Farmar, Vujacic, Ariza along with Odom coming off next year (the team is already projected at just under the cap for 09/10, check it out : http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm ) and the terrible front office that they have (I don’t give credit to luck, and that was the Gasol trade….before that, they sucked-even Kobe ripped them left and right) I honestly think your “window” could be as big as the Spurs’....2-3 years tops. Unless your team can somehow get the cap under control and still sign players to go with your “Big 3.”
"This team is like a bunch of cockroaches. They just don't die!" -Charles Barkley, after Game 7 vs. the NOOCH.
The "I'm gonna rip the eyes out of your head and piss into your dead skull! You f***ed with the wrong Marine!" face. Because Popovich can be kinda scary.
by Nixiack on May 31, 2008 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one more note
the lakers better re-sign vujajic and turiaf - no reason to let them go. please buss open up the pocketbooks..you have all the players u need - just pay them all
by lalalakers on May 30, 2008 10:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no more notes
Something’s gone wrong here – we’ve become a cozy haven for Lakers fans to discuss how best to prolong their upcoming dynasty – I’m all for the mutual fan respect but now we’re going too far. I hope Buss doesn’t pay – I’d take both of those guys, especially Vujajic. I’d even promise to try to learn how to pronounce his name correctly (I said try!).
Manu was hurt for this series. Pop hung on one season too long with some old guys, a reasonable decision that ALMOST worked. As we lick our wounds, hold on to the solace that this will be a VERY interesting off-season – we have our Big 3 in place, but it will be even more important for Pop to spend time figuring out how to rest Manu and even Tim during the regular season while still winning games. Instead of concentrating on how best to preserve an already dead corpse in RoHo, let’s work on saving the real contributors. Tony can go balls out, he’s still young, but the others, not. Bad news out there about Splitter – why would he come here if he can earn 8 times his salary in Europe? So who are the new guys going to be?
It seems that utmost importance should be given to regaining the twin tower concept that we have been unable to replicate since David left. We won one with Rasho as a twin, one with Oberto (yikes), but we have to work way too hard for rebounds, and need to address that concept immediately. Mahinni – will he help? Who else?
by fliprose on May 30, 2008 11:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOOOOOOL.
maybe u can get kwame brown!!!
by lalalakers on May 30, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we were the lakers...
we’d just have a top-level talent given to us, mid-season, for pennies.
grumblegrumble i need some time to grieve.
gospursgo. hook 'em. metal rules. ganja rules.
by metalandganja on May 30, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for pennies?
cmon we gave up Gasol AND critt…AND 2 first rounders…and SUperstar Kwame Brown
for Gasol….
hmmmmm the lakers were jobbed… we gave up Gasol plus all this other stuff..and all we got back was gasol…what was mitch thinking?!
by lalalakers on May 30, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pop hung on one season too long with some old guys, a reasonable decision that ALMOST worked.
i agree with you on that for sure – 100%. i believe that those guys earned a shot a repeating and sometimes it was tough to watch, but it did almost work. its hard hard hard to repeat in any major sports league. i believe that pop’s strategy would have worked if not for the less than expected contribution form one of our best players.
our guys aren’t going anywhere any time soon.
by bones on May 30, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You certainly couldn't pronounce "Vujacic" any worse than the Chuckster did
Did any else notice Barkley saying “Vuyachek” or something like that after the game?
by Gino20 on May 30, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even though I’m a Laker’s fan, I just wanted to give a shoutout to the Spurs and a little sympathy too. Both organizations have had enormous success through the years; the Spurs’ run over last decade is, for me, reminiscent of the years that the Lakers had Magic, Kareem, and Worthy—you knew every year there was an excellent chance they were going to reward your fanaticism with a championship.
Things get in the way sometimes:
1) Fisher’s .4 a few years ago-I remember Ralph Sampson’s unconscionably lucky shot when the Rockets wiped out the Lakers in a mid-80s best-of-five series.
2) Ginobli’s injured ankle this year-I remember LA going up against the Pistons for a possible 3-peat and losing their starting backcourt (Magic and Byron Scott) before the 1st game of the series was over.
3) The year Shaq and Kobe swept the Spurs and made them look old and tired during the 2nd of LA’s 3-peat—I remember the Spurs wiping out hopes of a Laker 4-peat a couple of years later when LA had a somewhat less than fully motivated Shaq and the organization tried to ride their role players just one year too long.
If I were a Spurs fan, I’d still like my chances of another or multiple championships. It’ll be hard; but it was hard when Shaq and Kobe were together and the Spurs still got 1 then. It was hard when Dallas was playing great ball and had a team that looked to be on the verge of a serious 3-year run; the Spurs still got another.
Unless Ginobli’s injuries become a chronic problem, the Spurs will still probably have the best players 1-3 on any team in the league next year. Remember the last time the Spurs were not quite athletic enough and the front office had been too complacent? They went out and got Ginobli and Parker.
True, the international players’ market is a little more competitive after the Spurs showed the rest of the league its potential. Nevertheless, it’s an organization and a coaching staff that players love to play for, and Buford and Pop have made very few personnel mistakes over the last decade. All they need are some role players who are just a little more athletic and consistent. The foundation is still there; the rest is a matter of how the ball bounces, what trades the Spurs and other teams make, and whether it’s them or one of the other premier teams that has an injured star at the wrong time. I don’t doubt they’ll still be in the mix as much as ever.
Of course I’m looking forward to a Lakers run well into the future and keeping my fingers crossed that the Spurs won’t do anything to spoil it. Best of luck against anybody else though!
by treacherous balloons on May 30, 2008 5:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You said it
As I watched every game this year, it was clear that the Spurs collectively weren’t as competitive as years past. The lock down defense and the ability to come back from large deficits was gone. Even though their record was solid, the Spurs won very few quality games. Especially down the stretch.
And the rest of the West got much better. We were okay against slow teams like Phoenix and probably would have beaten Denver had we faced them, but were too slow against the Hornets and Lakers. It’s not like we didn’t see this coming.
I hope the organization pulls the right moves in the offseason. I’d have to waste the remaining good years of Tim, Manu and Tony.
by Rick from LA on May 30, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There are certain old men that deserve a little more credit than they get. Namely Vaughn and Fin. I don’t think they hurt the team as some will say.
by r21x on May 30, 2008 11:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What Now?
I had no problem with the roster this season. I was in total agreement with Pop’s and R.C.’s decision to keep the team intact and let them defend their title. What I do have a problem with is the Spurs inability to successfully acquire young talent and let them develop while on the roster. How many years are we going to see the Spurs draft European League players who never make it to the Spurs roster. Scola, Javatokis (sp.), now Splitter. You can’t continue to squander draft picks and sign has beens and expect to win championships. The Lakers had a plan they found young talented players, stayed patient and let them go through their growing pains and are now reaping the rewards. The NBA season is a grind you can’t have more players on your roster closer to 40 then closer to 20 that’s not a formula for success.
The Spurs shouldn’t get a pass this off season from local media and fans they need to add quality role players or what’s left of Duncan and Ginobili’s run in S.A. will be squandered.
by Este on May 31, 2008 12:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You can see
they aren’t getting a pass on this site. Fin and Horry will be gone, that’s for sure. Pop better not give Horry more years (I think he was asking for it…uh oh) and I am actually thanking the Lakers for beating the Spurs, as they exposed a glaring weakness—-behind the Big 3, other than Bones-who knew-there is an INCREDIBLE drop-off in consistent production. Teams were finding ways of isolating the Big 3 (NO with Duncan, LA with Parker) and for good stretches it was the Spurs who looked lost, because Ginobili just couldn’t shift into 5th gear due to the ankle and get it done, and the bench players were too old, and couldn’t get it going consistently every game. For every very nice 15-20 pt game they had, there were 10-12 games where they had 3-5. (Just look through the year, you’ll see it.)
But that’s where the Spurs’ Big 3 really really shine. Take SA vs. LA and Boston (the 2 “premier” teams as people like to say with another set of “Big 3’s”.) Take age out of the equation for just a moment. SA’s big 3 next year will make just under 40 mil. LA’s will be just over 51 mil. Boston’s will be 59. Fifty-nine!! Given the increase of the salary cap next year will probably get the cap to the mid-60’s (63-65), you are still talking about THREE players taking up all but 6 mil of the cap. With LA, it’s all but 12. Bruce Bowen and Ime Udoka together are the same as Luke friggin’ Walton. How many times has Bruce saved a game? Udoka already just this year? More times that Walton has his whole career, that’s for sure.
“But Nix,” you say…”if they sign all thier players back, they will win!!!!” That’s delusional. Who is the only mainstay in the Spurs’ team for all 4 titles? Tim. He sets the tempo, by taking less than max, and working with Pop to ensure that the title is the #1 priority. Not even Detroit, who had to really work out Billups’ contract to ensure he got max (they had to get rid of Wallace) can boast that. Tony took less, Ginobili turned down about 2x as much from Denver to stay in SA. Bowen followed, etc. etc….. The Spurs are the best team in the last 10 years win % wise, title wise (so far), etc of ALL MAJOR SPORTS because the team-first philosophy radiates from the front office, to the superstars, all the way down to your base role players.
"This team is like a bunch of cockroaches. They just don't die!" -Charles Barkley, after Game 7 vs. the NOOCH.
The "I'm gonna rip the eyes out of your head and piss into your dead skull! You f***ed with the wrong Marine!" face. Because Popovich can be kinda scary.
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