There's No Seven Without Six
The '07-08 San Antonio Spurs have played the '07-08 New Orleans Hornets nine times, squaring off on four occasions during the regular season and five more in their second round playoff series.
So what have they learned about their opponents?
Not a whole hell of a lot, apparently.
Every time we play these guys in The Big Easy, it's the same god damn game. The Spurs peak early in the second quarter, accumulating a lead somewhere between six and ten points and the Hornets grind it back to make it a one possession difference by the half. And then...
And then...
Well you know what happens then.
The jerseys remain the same in the second half. In fact the players certainly look to be the same gentlemen who just competed valiantly for 24 hard minutes up and down the floor. But clearly these are not the same men, on either side. All of a sudden the Spurs look as hapless, slow, unorganized, and uncoordinated as your local rec league team of geriatrics. The Hornets on the other hand look like the reincarnation of the "Bad Boy" Pistons, with Chris Paul channeling the spirit of Isiah Thomas and the whole squad playing physical, stifling, emotional team defense. It appears dirty, even thuggish at times, but the point is they play together, they work hard and they communicate, so it's not pointless, ineffective brutality the way some teams - like say the Nuggets - approach the concept of defense, which in their Neanderthal minds simply means fouling the other team really hard so they don't get lay-ups.
Three times the Spurs have tried to win a playoff game in New Orleans and three times they have failed, spectacularly. Despite their halftime leads, they weren't really in any of the games by the time the 4th quarter started. They weren't quite blowouts, but they were right on the fringe of becoming such and indeed the Nooch pulled away in the waning moments of all three. That none of the games was a gut-punching close loss like the ones we suffered (unjustly I might add) at Dallas in Games 3 and 4 in '06 is comforting and frustrating, all at once. While it's good for my heart and my blood pressure, not getting so angry during the games, it certainly doesn't make me feel any better, losing by 20 rather than two. A loss is a loss is a loss.
Sometime late in the regular season I outlined the Spurs formula for winning that fifth ring: Go 12-0 at home and simply win one out of four road games per playoff round. It might have sounded like a joke or an exaggeration at the time, but I'm telling you, I meant it. i recognized, as I'm sure most of us did, that this team just isn't as strong and deep offensively or defensively as past editions and they would need the breaks and the intangibles more than ever to win. Protecting home court would be paramount because the elite teams out there just aren't afraid anymore of the big bad San Antonio Spurs, and certainly not at home.
They're out of chances now. The Spurs get only one more shot to get this right. If postseason experience means anything, if pressure has any effect on young players, these commonly held bits of sporting wisdom will show up in Game 7. Not only would the Spurs have the edge in experience and mental toughness but thanks to an odd scheduling quirk fatigue won't be an issue as the game wouldn't be played until Monday night, four days from now. Pop could even - heaven help us - get a couple of practices in the interim.
But first things first. We are down 3-2. We are playing tonight. There is a chance, a punchers chance, that this will be the last game our guys play this season. It could all go poof!, just like that. If that comes to pass there will be time for mourning and grieving, but not too much I hope. At the end of the day we still have to remember we've got four titles in a decade and that bitching about having not acquired any more makes us all sound like a bunch of whiny, spoiled Yankees fans.
What do the Spurs have to do to prolong their season? At this point, having played each other nine times, it's not exactly brain surgery: These teams know each other inside and out. It's all about execution, desire and in game adjustments. We've pretty much figured out how to shut down Peja. David West however, we have no answers for. Both Fab and Kurt have had a miserable time forcing him baseline and that had to do, in part, with the atrocious way the team has played the pick-and-roll. Both guys pack it in on Paul on the drive and leave West open for 17 footers, again and again and again. I don't really know how we solve this problem. If we don't send two guys with Paul, he gets easy lay-ups (thanks partly to him being allowed to take an extra step and clear off with his off arm the whole series). Maybe we have to blitz Paul with two guys before he even gets the play started, the way Hornets do with Manu. Maybe we have to defend the play with a third man and hope that West can't make the right pass to the open guy. What else can we do?
Offensively I'm more concerned. It starts with Duncan and he simply has to be more aggressive and decisive. The way he let Joey Crawford take him out of the game was disappointing, to put it lightly. He got the opportunity he's wanted all series long; to go against Tyson Chandler one-on-one, and he didn't handle it well at all. In fact, at times even David West guarded him singlehandedly and was successful. Tim has to take it to the basket hard and make them pay, that's all there is to it. All he has to do is score a few times, put Chandler in foul trouble and it opens up the whole game (and lane) for us. At the least if forces the Nooch into doubling him again and gives us open shots.
And Tony has to be much, much better. For a second there I really thought he turned the corner and had become the consistent, elite player we've been waiting for, but Game 5 was definitely a setback. He was tentative from the start and his decision making left a lot to be desired. I realize it's a lot to ask of him, but if he doesn't play Chris Paul to at least a draw, we can't beat these guys. I think it's pretty telling that the point guard who finished with more assists so far is 5-0 while the one who has scored the most is 2-3. We need scoring Tony AND passing Tony. We need him to be a star.
Finally we need Manu to bring it. He was a solid B+ in the first half and probably a D- in the second. He was our best player of the big three in Game 5, but that's really not saying a whole lot. We've all waited, patiently, for his three point stroke to return and it just hasn't. But again, what can he do? The shots he's getting are open and in rhythm. For most of the year an open Manu three was about as money as a Manu free throw. Now he's hitting like a third of the open ones and almost none of the contested ones. The answer, just like with Timmy is for him to be more aggressive and more decisive, to drive to the basket before the defense can set and double. The occasional give-and-go or back cut would be nice as well. Mostly we need Manu to play like he's desperate and he hates these guys. For the most part, he hasn't. He's kind of stuck in this netherworld right now where he hasn't been their best player in any of the wins and hasn't been their worst in any of the losses. In an odd way he's been the most consistent of the big three, but the problem is he's swung between "good" and "bad" as opposed to "excellent" and "awful." We need one brilliant performance out of him, either this game or next, to pull this series out.
I think the Spurs will win today, I really do. What it will mean, besides that they have the pride not to have their season end on their court, I'm not sure. For us to mull over all the philosophy and drama of a Game 7 there has to first be a victory in Game 6. The fans can afford to take it lightly, but the players most certainly cannot. We're too good to lose to these guys in six.
Aren't we?
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That last paragraph just killed me. I was pretty confident, but that last “aren’t we?” is getting into my head.
I had a feeling come over me after we lost game 2; that we would win games 3 & 4, lose game 5, then win games 6 & 7. Everything seems on course. I had a feeling we’d drop game 5 because it was a trap game. We’d have that inevitable Spurs let down game after two strong games. (I think games 1 & 2 were hangovers from the Phx series. I think we perceived Phx as the mountain.)
Our backs are against the wall now. That’s when we’re at our best. We have to win tonight.
by beachwood on
May 15, 2008 5:04 PM CDT
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Great breakdown
I’m a Hornets fan so very interesting to see the view from the other side. Best of luck tonight.
by atthehive on
May 15, 2008 5:19 PM CDT
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Yep, it was a great breakdown. Thanks for stopping by and not being a douche. We actually do respect you guys greatly, and know that you deserve praise. Stop back in after the game tonight, it’d be good to hear your feedback.
by SgtinManusArmy on
May 15, 2008 6:09 PM CDT
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YES
MUCH too good to get embarassed in 6 mistake-ridden, disgusting games. MUCH.
by SgtinManusArmy on
May 15, 2008 6:06 PM CDT
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Whoever wins
and Im a Hornets fan, they won a hard series. I think we have a shot tonight and if not, The Hive won’t let you survive Game 7. Getting past you will be the hard part.
You guys got 4. We want one. May the better team win.
by mattmc89 on
May 15, 2008 6:35 PM CDT
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tonight is going to be stellar! we have no clue yet what is even going to come of this series. i believe the spurs correct their mistakes and fight to the death. we will take the series back to new orleans and finish. i think we will come alive and leave new orleans in a surreal haze of, “what the hell just happened? it’s over?” who knows. the spurs know how to fight and to make it to the next round. but yes, may the best team win. if NO pulls away, it is well deserved. if that happens, the least to come of it would be this – i would just like to see paul leave his cocky “trying to prove it to the world” little cousin attitude at the door before the next series. no one likes that. not even a hornets fan.
yeah, the spurs are boss
by moognish on
May 15, 2008 6:46 PM CDT
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i would just like to see paul leave his cocky "trying to prove it to the world" little cousin attitude at the door before the next series. no one likes that. not even a hornets fan.Actually, we kinda do. We’ve gotten so little respect as a contender this year, we’ve got that attitude going as fans. His attitude mimcs ours to a large degree.
by mattmc89 on
May 15, 2008 6:53 PM CDT
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you know the spurs don’t really get any “contender” respect until we get into the 2nd round of the playoffs, then everyone acts suprised we are winning. this has happened for years and years, people saying we’re old and slow and can’t compete, yet we’re always there. anywho, parker doesnt pull the little cousin routine, does he?
yes you are the newcomers so i suppose this year it is alright for him to be the new kid making his mark, but i’m hoping he lets it go after 2008.
What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)
the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post
by Hamer_SpursFan on
May 15, 2008 11:51 PM CDT
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haha, you should be ashamed of yourself. its basketball. play your heart out… don’t annoy in the process.
yeah, the spurs are boss
by moognish on
May 16, 2008 12:52 AM CDT
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For the record, Chris Paul’s cocky “shock the world” attitude is annoying as hell, but if that’s what it takes for him to motivate himself and his team, then he’s gotta do what he’s gotta do. On the flip, I love that Manu doesn’t give a crap about pissing off other teams (and their fans) because he’s too busy winning. No time for that in the playoffs
I am, however, tired of the Dwyane Wade-esque treatment Paul’s been getting from the refs and announcers so far, and was stunned (and of course delighted) that he finally got whistled for pushing off with his off arm tonight. I actually had to see it happen 2x before I believed my eyes.
Parker pretty much has to lose a vital organ before he gets any love.
by Foodbag on
May 16, 2008 1:08 AM CDT
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SA didn't play very well, really
Please, win!!!!!!!!!
by guille on
May 15, 2008 7:02 PM CDT
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Guaranteed!
We win game 6 hands down. Two of our big three will have a massive game and the other a decent one. Not sure which.
From now on D. West will channel his inner Francisco Elson; Paul will channel his inner Starbury; Peja will channel…well the homoerotic Peja that you all saw in that picture, the Peja that we reliably knowsthat sucks; Chandler will channel his inner Amare Stoudemire (the foul prone part and crappy defense only).
I’m gonna drink lots and lots in the second half just to guarantee us some good mojo; it worked for games 3 and 4.
by DanF20 on
May 15, 2008 7:09 PM CDT
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I think if you took an actual statistic of the success rate of “guaranteed” games, it’d be pretty bad.
chaos... panic... pandemonium... my work here is done.
by rick.2g on
May 15, 2008 8:08 PM CDT
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Not when you got Manu Ginobili on the “Guaranteed” team ;)
by DanF20 on
May 15, 2008 10:43 PM CDT
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I have no idea why the San Antonio Express News hasn’t hired you yet.
by sungo on
May 15, 2008 7:57 PM CDT
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Tony didn’t out play Paul, or even play him even, and we won.
But, yeah, I don’t know why they don’t hire him. The fool can write.
by AusTechSpur on
May 15, 2008 11:22 PM CDT
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Five reasons
1. That would involve me moving to San Antonio, Texas
2. The editor would probably be even more displeased with 3,000 word columns than PtR audiences get.
3. Some of the guys might get offended when I openly beg for Pop to never, ever play them.
4. I’m pretty sure Pop wouldn’t handle my inquiry of "why don’t you make Tony pass it to Manu more?" after a loss all that well.
5. Any interview with Manu Ginobili would quickly deteriorate into "The Chris Farley Show."
by Aaronstampler on
May 16, 2008 3:47 AM CDT
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Good points.
How about if you move to Austin and cover the Toros?
by AusTechSpur on
May 16, 2008 10:12 AM CDT
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Oh yeah, MUCH better. I already cover a minor league operation with the MLS. Just awful, awful soccer. Watching the Chelsea-Man U Champions League Final next Wednesday will seem like a completely different sport.
by Aaronstampler on
May 16, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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Who’re you going for? I have a vested interest in ManU because of Tevez, but really, this game is great in so many levels and just about any score would work for me.
Except for 0-0.
by LatinD on
May 16, 2008 7:39 PM CDT
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I think I like more guys on Chelsea. They have Essien after all. Never really been a Man U fan.
by Aaronstampler on
May 17, 2008 10:49 PM CDT
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Does anyone besides me think that it might be worth a shot to activate Mahinmi so he can take a crack at David West? How much worse could he make the offense?
chaos... panic... pandemonium... my work here is done.
by rick.2g on
May 15, 2008 8:06 PM CDT
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OH THERE'S GONNA BE A GAME 7!
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
by CMoney on
May 15, 2008 11:09 PM CDT
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Who's ready for some RoHo headlines?
I hope I’m wrong, but I’m guessing we’re going to hear hear a lot more about the back screen RoHo set on David West than we will about how Tim owned both ends of the court tonight., even though Jackson and JVG mercifully took a quick break from stroking Paul to point out that RoHo’s foul was nothing out of the ordinary.
As for me, I hope the NOOCH focus on that and not on how Tim handled D West one on one and took care of bidness on O. David West is a great player, and has been a one-man wrecking crew until now, but there’s a reason why Tim is 1st team defense every year.
And who doesn’t enjoy it when Manu gets pissed and starts drinking everyone’s milkshake?
Game 7 will be a war, but here’s hoping Pop keeps Tim on D West. Please.
by Foodbag on
May 16, 2008 12:54 AM CDT
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I can only hope
If we want the Spurs to win game 7, then we would love the Hornets to think about it, a lot. West plays like crap when he is angry and Paul gets out of his element as well.
by pollackj on
May 16, 2008 4:03 AM CDT
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This is all we’ll hear about. On Sportscenter last night they were already stoking the media machine with “How much do you think this will dominate the conversation the next 3 days?” and a couple other comments just like it. As if they, you know, aren’t the ones that decide such things.
Let’s see: Espn’s Marc Jackson says it’s not a dirty play. Espn’s JVG says it not a dirty play. Charley Rosen says it’s not a dirty play. Hell, they’ll probably have to make Stephen A to yell that it was a cheap shot just to have dissenting opinion.
Jackasses.
by AusTechSpur on
May 16, 2008 10:16 AM CDT
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It was touched on a bit earlier, but Stamp with apologies with Eugene Struthers. You’re writing is on “A ‘hole ‘notha level . Awesome post. Anyway, as I mentioned earlier on Linix’s post , Horry’s play was the norm about 10-15 years ago. Now all of a sudden it’s a cheap shot? Get the fu(k outta here…David Stern has allowed the league to become soft and then the National media sees the slighest bit of contact to a star or contact by a player that is perceived as “dirty”, they run with it. That then creates a uneducated perception by casual fans across the country. The Spurs are dirty, the Spurs are boring, the Spurs smell like Ben Gay. Good grief, it’s just a fucking game. Some people need to get a grip.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
by DennardC on
May 16, 2008 1:52 PM CDT
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I said it before, and I’ll say it again. Reporters suck.
by AusTechSpur on
May 16, 2008 2:56 PM CDT
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It’s not just an issue with sports. It’s that way with everything in today’s society and since we’re a nation of followers, a majority of America just follows the most popular opinon and flow with that as gospel. I’m still amazed with the indignation provoked by something as trivial as sports.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
by DennardC on
May 16, 2008 3:30 PM CDT
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Yes, you guys are so right. Absolutely brilliant in fact. I love you all.
Baaaaahhhhh. Baaaaaahhhhhh.
by SgtinManusArmy on
May 16, 2008 4:16 PM CDT
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True, and that is at the bottom of my semi-veiled shot at Stampler with the ‘Reporters suck’ comment. It’s a sad state of our society when what “sells” is this he said/she said they don’t respect me I have to have a chip on my shoulder controversy shit that forces reporters to dig up shit on people.
Crap, I’m done. I don’t even have a point any more with this. - spitting -
by AusTechSpur on
May 16, 2008 5:06 PM CDT
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Cheap Shot Again
You should all be proud of Horry, the Whore. Can’t theSpurs just play basketball instead of trying to take out the opposing star with a cheap shot? No wonder no one can stand to watch you assholes.
by TheTruthSquad on
May 17, 2008 2:09 AM CDT
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Come on now, Horry serves an important role in society, I’m sure many lonely ladies are only too glad to pay for his services.Yes, he might be a whore, but he’s Pretty Woman kind of whore, with a heart of gold.
by Hipuks on
May 17, 2008 3:23 AM CDT
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What cheap shot
are you talking about? The Spurs do play good basketball – don’t you recognize it when you see it?
Of course, aren’t you the guy who predicted the Hornets would sweep, before predicting the Hornets would win in five, before predicting the Hornets would win in seven? I guess you really don’t recognize good basketball…
by 4Him on
May 17, 2008 4:22 AM CDT
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OK, The Hornets in seven.
Of course, that assumes that West will be able to play after Horry did a Nash on him.
by TheTruthSquad on
May 17, 2008 9:03 PM CDT
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He apologized for sneezing too loudly? i don’t get it. What’s a ‘Nash’?
who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder? there are some who call me ... tim.
by ptruser on
May 18, 2008 5:47 PM CDT
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You know, ptruser, that part of basketball where there is physical contact. I’ve seen that happen.
by AusTechSpur on
May 18, 2008 8:14 PM CDT
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Spurs are the better team and will win in NO!
West will play but his timing will be off from lack of practice. He’ll have a sub par performance which will force Paul to take more shots. Then the Spurs will then dominate Chris Paul and take the rest of the Hornets out in the pasture and spray them with massive quantities of deet.
James Stewart
by BigDaddyStewDog on
May 17, 2008 9:21 PM CDT
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Spurs need to get off to a good start and play with the lead the whole game in order to win. Just do not see them coming from behind. Look at Cleveland yesterday. They hit a ton of big shots in the second half and still could never take the lead.
by justin3007 on
May 19, 2008 8:55 AM CDT
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Excellent points Justin. I’m glad the Spurs won, but I wished they would’ve kept their lead. They dominated 3 quarters, but they shot poorly as well.
Big Keys:
We shot and made more free throws
Our bench played extremely well.
We made more threes
NO missed a ton of shots
Plus the fans changed from yellow to white
We finally recvd some momentum calls that went our way. Ginobli foul, Chandler foul on Tony, and travel on Paul
Drawbacks:
We shot a lower FG%
We lost three leads of 9 pts or more
We won three quarters, but almost lost the most important one of all
Most teams in the NBA have hard times coming from behind. That’s why I think the Spurs like to to have big leads and as a result some of their games have been blow outs.
James Stewart
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May 20, 2008 2:48 AM CDT
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