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Playoff game thread #3 -- at Phoenix

NOTE to the Editors:  If the length messes up the game thread use let me know and I can split it up.  Or do it yourself.  Whichever.

I know Rick2G did a recap already.  I know Stampler said he is going to do a recap.  I still want to do my own.  Hopefully, I will bring someting unique to the table that those guys didn't cover.

I thought Tuesday's game was a great game.  Not otherworldly like game one, but a great game.  The Suns got hot early and got a big lead.  TThe Spurs, thanks to the big three, hung around until the Suns cooled off.  Then we got a big lead and they came charging back.  I really didn't feel all that confident when the lead was cut to 5 with just over 2 minutes left.  I wasn't scared we'd choke, I just wasn't gloating.

Various thoughts:

  1. Nash was flopping and grabbing so much he looked like a mutant love child of Ginobili and Bowen.  Rick2G's recap has a great picture.  Ginobili's elbow looks like it probably hit Nash, but it didn't look like Gino really popped him.  Nash went from a couple feet inside the free throw line to the baseline.  That's about 12-15 feet.  Uh-huh.  Why aren't people hating on Nash for flopping?  Nash is just as Non-american as Gino. Let's see Nash is: Anti-war, thoughtful, intelligent, flopper, gamer, competitor, honest, fearless, tough, from another country, white-ish.  Which of those doesn't describe Manu.  The media is a fucked up thing in the way they perpetuate "talking points".
  2. Amare is just abysmal defensively.  He seems to have no instincts for positioning.  He spent the whole game watching guys drive past him to the rim and he was continually a step slow when he moved at all.  Was he afraid of Fab dunking over him?
  3. The Suns got a great first half from Amare (11-14, 22 points), a great game from Nash(10-15), the best game they will get from The Big Mouth (19 points, 14 boards, and even hit a couple shots from outside of the one foot range) and still lost.  If I'm a Suns fan, that's the part of this that is disturbing.  They let game one get away and in game two their big three played really well and they lost.
  4. On the flip-side, Barbosa was abysmal.  Hill was a non-factor.  Diaw was decent in the first half and not so great in the second.  Giricek made a couple shots but was ABUSED on the defensive end.  If they get decent contributions from any of these guys they win game two, maybe.  Ok, maybe not, but they would at least have helped and probably can't be much worse.
  5. The Suns are no longer the Fun and Gun Suns.  They aren't even a ghost of the team that tried to shoot in 7 seconds or less.  Are all the people who hopped on the Suns bandwagon (I'm talking to a lot of you) because they were a "fun" team to watch getting off now?  The boring, slow, plodding Spurs just outscored them 23-4 in fast break points.  Think about that.  Four freaking fast break points for the Suns.  They don't rain down threes, they only shot 13.  So, what are all the Suns bandwagoners attracted to now.  The Big Mouth's quotes, personality and hustle?
  6. Seeing the Spurs run the Suns out of the gym, especially watching Parker blow by Nash like he is in concrete, makes me think they miss Marion just a little bit.  How many times during the game did Nash come tearing up court to see himself on a 2-4 break?  I noticed it a few times and I barely pay attention to things like that during the game.
  7. Once the Spurs shut down the Nash/Amare pick and roll, what offense do the Suns have?  It was a little like watching Iverson with the Nuggets.  Nash dribbled around but instead of looking for his shot -- like Iverson does -- he was looking for somebody to pass to.  But, this wasn't a "play".  At least to me, it was just dribbling around.
  8. Let's see, the Suns are pumping up The Big Mouth for his defense against Tim and his hustle.  They really run very few plays for him.  That's worth 20+ million a year.  I think we are looking at the Suns last "window" this year.  There is no way The Big Mouth comes back next year as "good" as he is this year.  They are way over the cap and they have no depth.
  9. Speaking of depth, do the Suns have a bench?  Diaw, Barbosa, Giricek.  Giricek has been 12 and 15 minutes.  So for the most part, the Suns are playing a 7-man rotation.  And that's fine.  But nobody else from their bench is even coming in to give them the 3-5 minute stints that we are getting from the likes of the JV and Horry and Bones.  Those guys have combined to play about 30 minutes in the two games -- about 5 minutes each -- but they give us something.  JV ballhandling and defense.  Bones some made 3's.  Horry some fouls.  I think it is at this time we reap the rewards of our frustration with Pop during the regular season.  Our bench guys have little tiny roles they perform that provide great value to us in the postseason.   Oh, and Ime has played 8 and 14 minutes.  We pay him $1 million a year.  I think this is part of the brilliance of our front office.  The Suns would kill to have Ime instead of Sean Marks, Eric Piatkowski, and DJ Strawberry on their bench.


Stoops vs Brown:  Fun with analogies? 

Greg Popovich is to Mike D'Antoni as:
a)  The female mantis is to the male mantis
b)  The steamroller is to Kevin Kline
c)  Stampler's writing is to my writing
d)  The hammer is to the nail

Stoudemire is to defense as:
a)  A construction flag man is to traffic
b)  A matador is to a bull (including the part where the bull sometimes wins)
c)  SgtInManusArmy is to lack of dedication
d)  Stephen A Smith is to quiet

Ginobili(1st in 6th man) is to Barbosa(2nd) as:
a)  Man is to mouse (hombre Y raton)
b)  Beer is to non-alcoholic beer
c)  LatinD's pre-game info is to Powell's pre-game
d)  Abe Lincoln is to George Bush

Shaq is to an intelligent quote as:
a)  Surfing porn is to real sex
b)  Paris Hilton is to classy
c)  FoxNews is to fair and balanced
d)  Krukow is to game-watching sobriety 

FinDog is to the PTR faithful as:
a)  A meth head is to his family
b)  An ex-girlfriend is to her old boyfriend (the once you dump her she starts working out and gets breast implants kind of thing)
c)  A foot is to the mouth
d)  The Suns are to their BotS bloggers

Game 3:  What to expect?  I don't know.  I have a nagging feeling the Spurs will start the game like the first two, but instead of coming back we'll get blown out.  I'm hoping, however, that we match their desperation driven intensity and hang around.  If we do, then I expect a dog fight the whole way.  I'll take our decision making and execution over theirs.  Us be 3 or them by 18.  No middle ground.  Heaven forbid it happens, but if we get up 10 fairly early look for the Suns to implode.  Especially Shaq and Amare.  I think both those guys are prone to panic and frustration.  Shaq will start fouling people -- trying to send a message -- and Amare will start forcing shots.

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I don’t see us sweeping the suns so if I would have to pick a game to lose… it would be game 3 for all of the obvious reasons. I’m expecting to see the Suns employ Tanya Harding style tactics on Manu and Tony in the paint. I hope we’re ready for it. Paging Robert Horry…Robert Horry to the hardwood please.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Apr 25, 2008 12:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i can the spurs sweeping the suns. we have home court advantage this time.

btw, if ime was on the suns bench, nobody would know if he was any good or not, he wouldn’t get any playing time.

dave mcnulla
spurs fan

by dmcnulla on Apr 25, 2008 12:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Suns 105
Spurs 92

The proverbial p*ssy game for the Spurs, well that or I just jinxed the Suns.

I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor

by DennardC on Apr 25, 2008 1:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Reason why people love Nash but hate Ginobili: Ginobili has an accent. Nash speaks perfect English so its like he’s an American white guy. I bet most people don’t even know Nash is Canadian.

by BUTD on Apr 25, 2008 6:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

or born in south africa

who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder? there are some who call me ... tim.

by ptruser on Apr 25, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tonight's refs

Javie
Capers
McCutchen

I think this is good. Javie is well known - I think - to not be swayed by the home crowd. I don’t expect any ticky-tack foul calls in the first quarter to “set a tone”.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 25, 2008 9:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And now my predictions

Spurs: 91
Suns: 80

Tony will struggle, Tim will be very good at times, Manu will be creative, and FinDog will be on FIRE!! FinDog with 18 on 5 3-balls and a technical free throw courtesy of D’Antoni called by Javie.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 25, 2008 9:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ha!

i’ve gotta be honest, austechspur. i seriously did not see this post until you mentioned it in the comments of stampler’s post. good move.

and might i add, an excellent post at that. informative, funny, and something different. golf clap

gospursgo. hook 'em. metal rules. ganja rules.

by metalandganja on Apr 25, 2008 10:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh btw...

i really really hope the spurs do take it to the suns tonight. deep down, they’re sick of last year’s fiasco and the year of excuses it spawned. i know standard spurs M.O. is a pussy game tonight, but i can totally see this extra motivation bringing something rare out in them.

ohpleaseohpleaseohplease…

gospursgo. hook 'em. metal rules. ganja rules.

by metalandganja on Apr 25, 2008 10:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ummmm let’s see….....d, d, c, d, a.

tonite’s game smells like fish to me right now, but i am about to take up metal’s philosophy of the spurs’ extra motivation. this will help me get properly motivated for tonite’s tilt.

that and:

a) loud iron maiden
b) a few thin green sticks, wrapped in white paper
c) a case of cheap beer
d) all of the above

go spus go.

by bones on Apr 25, 2008 11:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm going with A

Because Bruce Dickenson belting out the Flight of Icarus just seems to capture the spirit of this series. I think you see where I’m going with this one.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Apr 25, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t anyone expects this team to go up 3-0 here. As awesome as that would be, it just ain’t what they do. The last thing I want to see is them get blown out of the building. At least put some pressure on the Suns, nudge them a little. Something so that if they do win they know in the back of their heads come Sunday the Spurs will hit them hard.

by r21x on Apr 25, 2008 4:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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