Oh. My. God.
by Matthew Powell
on Apr 20, 2008 1:58 AM CDT
Jesus H. Christ on a tricked-out Segway, what a game.
After the game Shaq had the following to say:
"I just wanted to play aggressive, but the floppers prevailed today. Amare and myself are going to continue to play aggressive,'' O'Neal said of his foul trouble. "Hopefully those guys will compete rather than just fall down.''
You know what Shaq? You really need to just shut the fuck up. Shut. The. Fuck. Up. Was your first foul caused by a flop? Yep. But why did you swing your arm into Oberto anyway? You were three feet from the basket. You're seven feet tall. Oberto's like 6'-9" in heels. What's the problem? Seriously. Just shut the fuck up. And sweet Baby Jesus in a manger you were so fucking incredibly horrible tonight on defense. Just downright embarrassingly pathetic. I have never, ever, ever seen worse pick and roll defense in my entire life. How bad were you Shaq? Allow me to illustrate. (That means I'm going to paint a picture, but with words. (Words are those small black things that confuse you.))
Let's say the Spurs could reincarnate the 1979-80 version of George Gervin. Furthermore, let's say he was being guarded by a paraplegic. Who'd fallen out of her wheelchair. And was unconscious. I would still want Gervin to pass the ball to Tony or Manu so they could run pick and roll with Duncan. That's how fucking horrible you are. Are you just lazy? Do you have really bad corns that limit your mobility? Do you think the Spurs would eventually miss a layup?
Do you think if you talk enough people will gloss over the fact that Tim Duncan, the guy you were brought to stop, just dropped 40 on your fat ass? 16-24. And that three. Ouch. But hey that's not your fault. You were busy standing at the free throw line where you were intently guarding, uhh, the free throw line. You had that shit locked down, bro. Oh, and you had 5 rebounds. To be fair, they were whole rebounds. No half rebounds in there. Of course when you on the court the Spurs shot 97%, so there weren't many boards to be had.
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simply beautiful
replay of the game right now on espn
by Led Blimp on Apr 20, 2008 2:25 AM CDT 0 recs
Those are awesome, Led Blimp. Do you know where I could find higher quality versions?
I need new backgrounds.
by LatinD on
Apr 20, 2008 4:35 PM CDT
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considering the speed that mr. o’neal has left losing teams in the past, i’m half surprised that he isnt taking down his coach or bill walton in the media yet.
conspicuously absent from his quote was the fact that he evened out on that no-call at the end of the game when he blocked….err….i mean clocked manu.
as bad as o’neal was on tim, steadywhiner was worse. that was sheer one on one abuse. actually tim was 2-5 for a long stretch of the second half when primarily guarded by o’neal – but when crunch time came he found the net almost every time.
by bones on Apr 20, 2008 8:34 AM CDT 0 recs
thank you matthew, you’ve made my morning.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GvJaOvF1AKA
The Phoenix Suns: Where Nothing Happens
by efantich on Apr 20, 2008 9:04 AM CDT 0 recs
where did you get that 97% FG stat? why are you better at post-game research than the professionals?
you ain't a beauty but hey you're all right.
by kalone on Apr 20, 2008 12:19 PM CDT 0 recs
I got that stat out of my ass. I am better at post-game research that the professionals because the professionals don’t have access to my ass.
by Matthew Powell on
Apr 20, 2008 12:27 PM CDT
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the professionals should be so lucky.
you ain't a beauty but hey you're all right.
by kalone on
Apr 20, 2008 12:46 PM CDT
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golf clap
gospursgo. hook 'em. metal rules. ganja rules.
by metalandganja on
Apr 20, 2008 2:58 PM CDT
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Nice try
Your argument about Shaq’s horrible defense is valid, but you did nothing to refute his claim. There’s no getting around it. Vlade Divac thinks the Spurs are floppers. So instead of addressing it, you go for the low-hanging fruit. Nice one. All while sounding like a 16-yr-old.
by DimeCFH on Apr 20, 2008 12:28 PM CDT 0 recs
God, you’re stupid. Yes, Shaq is right. The floppers won last night. So did the team that played better defense. So did the team with the best player. So did the team without the lazy fat ass playing center. That was my point, and it’s addressed, signed, stamped and delivered.
by Matthew Powell on
Apr 20, 2008 2:09 PM CDT
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Nothing to refute what claim? His claim that the game was determined by floppers? Hardly, and not even worth responding to. Yes, with complete intellectual honesty, the SPURS flop. So do the Cavs. And the Raptors. And the Lakers. And the thuggets. And…..and….(wait for it)..... the suns. It’s shameful that you can’t recognize this. Every team does, and it’s part of the game. One man’s flopping is another man’s charge. After so many making the excuse that San Antonio flops, no one, including the officials, are blind to it. It’s to shaq’s misfortune that the rules don’t allow you to exploit your fatassedness and mow through people. If he really feels that the floppers prevail and the league is so partial to flopping, why isn’t HE flopping? We know it’s not out of his depth of honor and class; and we all KNOW how the zebras reward drama (just ask stevie). I encourage the Big Prick- Obviously the SPURS’ crooked and cowardly style is rewarded, you should play the same game. Flop endlessly when the greatest center of this generation approaches you. Show dismay and discomfort as you hit the floor after Manu rolls by you. Your time is coming, and you’ll fool everyone just like San Antonio has….. four times.
His claim that the floppers prevailed? How, exactly? By winning? Did you watch the first half? We spotted phx 427 TOs, and then had to depend on a falling away Findog 3 and a FREAKIN’ TIM DUNCAN 3 (did you see that, by the way? Completely badass, and an image that will be haunting in two weeks) in double OT just to pull it out. Yeah. Good call. Flopping was our secret weapon; it’s too bad that phx stumbled upon our Holy Grail and now can better inform the basketball viewing population of how manipulative and secretive the SPURS are.
shaq is simply playing the media game now. phx can’t beat San Antonio straight up, obviously, so they again resort to any possible angle that can give them an advantage. When you’re a center who is ‘the best to ever play the game,’ and your nemisis drops 40 and is hitting from 3 you need every advantage you can get. Planting the label of “flopping” on the SPURS to manipulate the officials (as noso accurately stated) is often very effective and will change the way games are called, allowing you a leg up. That’s all this is, pure and simple; baiting the refs. Unfortunately, it makes future losses even harder to stomach, being as you couldn’t even win with that advantage on your side. You’ll probably gain at least one game solely on the stunt of plying the refs, but it definately won’t be on superior skills and it will over 7 games work it’s way out.
I’m constantly grateful that San Antonio never plays that game of trying to manipulate the way games are decided through the officials, and I’m proud that I follow a team with such high character and sportsmanship. You never hear Pop or Timmy whining about officials or making excuses for failure. The great thing is that as a SPURS fan, I wouldn’t WANT a win that wasn’t decided by sheer talent or performance alone. I (and probably most of us) would rather have honest and integrity driven failure in the first round, than advancement based on influence from the zebras. That type of success is shallow and unrewarding, but I would assume that when accustomed to nothing but failure, one may not know the difference. Just keep in mind….. you guys are quickly running out of excuses. That draft you feel across your cheek is the window on little stevie’s career closing, and you have N-O-T-H-I-N-G to show for it.
by SgtinManusArmy on
Apr 20, 2008 6:38 PM CDT
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Flop-errrr...
Vlade Divac. Wow. Digging deep there but at least he’s a credible source on flopping. But then again, I hear Vlade used to smoke a pack a day on game days and get drunk in the locker room before tip-off. So maybe he was just stumbling around.
Sure, the Spurs do flop. Some. But last time I checked, I have seen players flop in every single NBA game I have ever watched. With all the hand check, three second, and illegal defense rules in place, standing in front of another player and impeding progress to the rim is one of the only way a defense can make a difference in the now offensive minded NBA.
Fortunately, a Spurs strong point is playing smart, making rotations, and beating the other team to their spots. Also, Phoenix likes to run and attack the basket from within five feet as much as possible which plays right into the Spurs’ defensive M.O. Honestly, I think it’s a ridiculous argument to label the other team (in this case the Spurs) “floppers” because Shaq doesn’t have the body control and Amare does not have a pull up jumper off a pick-and-roll.
Allez Spurs!
by JustinBK on Apr 20, 2008 1:06 PM CDT 0 recs
what’s with the nba music on abc? they have tim mcgraw and def leopard forming the biggest supergroup no one would pay a handful of piss to hear, and then they play a 40-year-old mamas and papas song for a commercial break.
by the way, what has nine arms and sucks? def leopard.
you ain't a beauty but hey you're all right.
by kalone on Apr 20, 2008 2:34 PM CDT 0 recs
golf clap
gospursgo. hook 'em. metal rules. ganja rules.
by metalandganja on
Apr 20, 2008 3:01 PM CDT
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oh man
here is where it all starts! game 1 of the 2008 nba champions dvd in the books. get ready kids. keep it up spurs! haha, amazing
yeah, the spurs are boss
by moognish on Apr 20, 2008 3:00 PM CDT 0 recs
um... really Shaq?
Is Shaq aware that he plays with Rajah Bell and Steve Nash? Those guys have seen their share of flops as well.
But really, I think this is just Shaq trying to get the benefit of the doubt from the refs for the next game, a la Phil Jackson bitching about the refs in post-game. We’ll see if it works.
by Foodbag on Apr 20, 2008 4:04 PM CDT 0 recs
Not always a whiner and has been a winner
I saw Shaq play high school ball in San Antonio where he played at a small public school on Ft. Sam Houston. They played about three levels from the top 5A competition so his typical opponent at center averaged about 6’3”. Most nights he dominated and they won. But from time to time coaches would use whatever strategy they could think of short of 5 on one to try and contain the big guy. He was usually in good humor and occasionally passed the ball when triple covered but usually the big guy just played ball and did not complain a lot.
During his brief college stay he was again pretty dominant and I do not recall a lot of whining.
One would have to trace his complaining to the time he spent with the Zen master in Los Angeles. Certainly Phil Jackson is a great coach (he used to be better than Popovich but I would say that Pop has risen to the top of that class, evidenced by his brilliance in yesterdays win over the Suns) and his style has brought great success. But somehow as Jackson tried to keep the team together and winning with two huge egos in the locker room he seems to have inadvertantly taught the big guy some very bad habits one of which is complaining about everyone else when things do not go the way he wants them to.
Jackson is well known for trying to influence the refs in post game comments. Some coaches do it others do not and one could suspect that for some refs it has an effect (positive or negative) though for most it probably does not.
But Phil Jackson did not use that strategy when he was aplayer and it is really innapropriate and I would say also counterproductive for a player to do that. It simply takes your energy and effort away from where it needs to be which is finding a way to perform at your greatest ability in games. ( Note the performance of Mr. James ofCleveland after the pregame chatter and the 1st half contact versus the Wizards. He simply brought more game to his teams effort and prevailed.)
But as has been stated, Shaq is slower and I suspect will tire if his team can get past the Spurs (not likely but certainly not impossible) and goes deep in the playoffs. He would do well to watch tapes of Bill Russel late in his career to observe two things. First his obviously superior conditioning as an older player to what Shaq brings to the game today. Secondly and more importantly the leadership, selflessness and constant total effort to find a way to play to the best potential with his team every night. In the end he will always be the greatest player I have ever witnessed but even as a longtime Celtics fan I see similarly amazing things in Manu as I did in Russell and Havlicek. In fact that is what Manu looks like to me a strange abberation of the best qualities of to great old Celtics players. So until this game gets to the East and West Championship I am all about Duncan, Popovich, Parker, Bowen (think KC Jones with a three pointer) and of course Manu in the West.
I respect them all for doing what it takes to win and not making excuses,EVER! that’s what Champions do.
by nosophistme on Apr 20, 2008 4:28 PM CDT 0 recs
What a game indeed.
We have to win the series. That should crush Shaq, and he needs to be crushed.
by LatinD on Apr 20, 2008 4:36 PM CDT 0 recs
Hell, Shaq flopped on his 2nd foul. He might want to watch some film before making his postgame statements.
"To be a great champion you must believe you are the best. If you're not, pretend you are." - Muhammad Ali
by DennardC on Apr 20, 2008 9:11 PM CDT 0 recs
exactly. shaq is the biggest flopper in the league. when he played for the lakers, parker knocked shaq back 5 yards when he brushed against shaq on a layup.
floppers should never complain about floppers.
dave mcnulla
spurs fan
by dmcnulla on
Apr 20, 2008 11:18 PM CDT
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the big man code
yeah – isnt his complaints about flopping some sort of violation of his favorite “big man code?”
oh i forgot, its OK when shaq complains or flops, but its not OK when when someone else does it…..story of mr. o’neal’s life.
by bones on
Apr 21, 2008 7:47 AM CDT
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i think i've heard something like that before...
IOKIYAR, i believe. or in this case, IOKIYShaq
gospursgo. hook 'em. metal rules. ganja rules.
by metalandganja on
Apr 21, 2008 11:56 AM CDT
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Both the Suns and Spurs flop and they do it a lot. A grade A example of the pot calling the kettle black. All the good teams have floppers, its been like for years.
by r21x on Apr 20, 2008 11:31 PM CDT 0 recs
Shaq can say anything and people will think it’s cool or funny. It’s pure inanity, but that’s the way of the world. How else do you explain that Gawd awful Soldier Boy song being a #1 hit. At this point in his career, Shaq’s words are going to write his big ass a check he won’t be able to cash.
"To be a great champion you must believe you are the best. If you're not, pretend you are." - Muhammad Ali
by DennardC on Apr 21, 2008 3:17 PM CDT 0 recs
the absolutely shocking thing about the Suns in general is that they have the audacity to complain about refereeing despite the advantages they normally get…
Just how many legitimate fouls did Shaq commit AFTER his 5th???
by Pflash on Apr 21, 2008 5:22 PM CDT 0 recs
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2008/04/flopping-is-it.html
Turns it we’re not the only ones who notice shaq’s habit of making excuses and casting blame. Pretty funny to see that even when he rides your coattails to a championship, you’re still somewhat glad to see him go. Great legacy to have…
by SgtinManusArmy on Apr 21, 2008 11:51 PM CDT 0 recs
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