Game Thread #19: vs Warriors
Golden State Warriors at San Antonio Spurs, Dec 6, 2008 7:30 PM CST
I went to bed three hours ago at 9:30. I was exhausted. I was up late watching the game against the Nuggets last night. I had to get up early to take the dog to the vet. I was in meetings all day. I've been fighting off illness all week. I was exhausted. I went to bed.
However, two hours in I woke up. My wife is sick with a hacking cough that won't quit, I have a dog walking around with an e-collar rubbing the walls, and I have a female dog who won't stop talking. So here I sit, working on the game thread in the middle of the night unable to sleep.
It's a damn good thing the Spurs weren't soft against the Nuggets because I would be mad about that too. As it is, the Thursday night win feels like a statement game. Maybe we are getting down to business now. I don't know about Pop, but I have upgraded us. We aren't cottony soft, we are pillow top soft.
It's the late night slumber party. We are staying up all night, bouncing on mattresses, and having a pillow fight. I'm predicting a fun night and a full house. As a bonus, I'm giving out NoDoz. So come on over.
BreakdownI got a big box. Who's going to get them?
Keys To The Game
Some other readingGolden State of Mind has THE strangest arrangement. What appears to be the main blogger is YaoButtaMing. His favorite player is Yao, but his team is the Warriors. Is this allowed? How do you guys feel about it? Other things of possible interestJamal Crawford and Stephen Jackson are some pair of backcourt mates: Jamal's Warriors numbers: 20.6 pts on 38% FG and 32% 3-pt while shooting 7 3-ptrs per game. Jack comes in with some of the worst offensive numbers I have ever seen. 20.6 pts on 39% FG and 28% 3-pt while 6 3-ptrs a game. Oh wait, those are as bad as Jamal's. Not to rip on guys I don't know and not to stroke Powell, but... I took a look at the live blog for the Nuggets game at ProjectSpurs and......Powell's right, in my opinion. Recap: Stampler. I want the mega-recap. Games 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17 and this one. I have laid down the gauntlet. Step up or Hipuks and I are going to codependency counseling. |
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For a minute there, I thought you had Tim and Ronny tied at PF.
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by Linix129 on Dec 6, 2008 12:55 AM CST reply actions
Great thread intro. I like me some NoDoz, from the college days.
What was Powell right about? I missed his original comments.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
I think he’s talking about my comment that the game thread functionality here is adequate, and using Cover It Live (which apparently is what Project Spurs uses) is not necessary.
No, I was talking about language usage.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
- That Cover It Love thing doesn’t really work for me. This is way better.
- You picked someone over Manu? How do you minus-rec a post?
- Have a birthday tonight. Can I keep spurning (wink wink) the GF without it leading to DESTRUCTION? Find out when gametime rolls around.
- Have you guys watched this? Damn, I love Hill even when he plays HORSE.
- If that doesn’t prove that HORSE is fun to play but boring to watch, I don’t know what will, Stampler. Even Pistol Pete’s HORSEs were boring. …Okay, not true. But that’s edited.
- Didn’t even know ProjectSpurs existed.
- I just noticed the links embedded in the preview image. That’s something else, ATS. Kudos. (Anyone else had missed that? Just put your mouse over the PTR logo or the players’ pictures.)
- What I would give to post a few pictures of the GSW pics I’ve found. Alas, it’s not to be.
- This guy should play for the Warriors:

Pick me, Nellie!
The Manu pick was a typo. It has been fixed. Manu got invited to the party.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Those links have been in there since the beginning. Shame, shame LatinD for not finding them earlier.
I thought this was a picture of Baron.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Hey guys, check out this link I found all by myself:
http://www.nba.com/spurs/gameday/081206.html
They interview Manu, then George Hill and Chip Engelland play HORSE. Maybe we should post it as a FanShot or something.
I thought it was interesting that George Hill got an autograph from Timmy D ten years ago. That has to be pretty cool for Cubits, now that he’s on the team with a guy he idolized as a kid. I like too how Chip is a master of old man HORSE b.s. with the dipsy-do layups and whatnot.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
I think it is me that the c8r is mocking.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
Spurs on Austin Broadcast TV Tonight
If you live in Austin, you can watch the game on Channel 54, KNVA. I don’t know what that translates to for you guys who actually pay money to watch TV, but you can go to knva.com and see if you can figure it out.
It’s a CW station (used to be the WB) that has the primetime shows Smallville, the new 90210 and America’s Next Top Model — if that helps you at all. Anyway, it’s the least likely station you’d expect to have the rights to the Spurs game, but I’m not going to quibble.
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
Funny, I just now posted the Austin TV. It’s time warner channel 12.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
I was also going to add the video of George playing horse.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
Anybody have any clue as to what the best links are for watching? I know it’s early, but ya’ll had good HD links there for awhile. I’ll be with you guys tonight, eating leftovers and laughing at Baron Davis.
Not a big Baron fan. And I like seeing athletes fail miserably who simply chase the money.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
Actually trying to decide btwn leftover Green Chile enchiladas or making fresh Sloppy Joes. Laugh all you want, but sloppy joes are delicious, and I haven’t had them since I was like 8 and couldn’t resist at the store the other day.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe you could wash them down with a nice box of apple juice.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
Would Shiner coated in a Bruce Bowen koozie work?
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t understand how you can call yourself a Sergeant in Manu’s Army, yet wear a Bruce Bowen jersey to a game and even put a Bruce Bowen koozie on your Shiner. Are you a double agent? A mercenary?
BTW, on a related note, my wife gave me a TD jersey koozie for my Shiner Blacks. Then she got jealous of my awesome koozie, and bought another Spurs koozie at the store with a 00 on it—we call it “a player to be named later,” since there’s no name on it. So now we both have Spurs jersey koozies. Yup, my life is pretty awesome.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
That’s awesome.
I typically wear a Team Argentina (VISA) Manu jersey to live games, but since there’s baby-blue in that jersey I won’t be caught dead at a Denver game with it for fear of mistaken identity. The Bruce jersey alternates depending on the environment.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
You beat me to this exact same comment by one minute. Searching for game links now…
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
I found a link on atdhe.net, but you know my dumbazz, still trying to figure out how to paste it.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
You can’t use “Warriors” and “defense” in the same sentence.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
He’s totally right and busted you in a serious faux pas.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
What if you were to say “the Warriors play bad defense?” Or do you have have to say “Man, I can’t believe those Warriors. Their defense is terrible.”?
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
Man, I’ve seen 4 shots from within 8 feet by us. I’ll take it.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 7:47 PM CST reply actions
Right now, Shiner. Soon to come in with that 14 Hands I was telling you about.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
Nice. I’m back on the Chianti after he cioppino dinner.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
Excellent. Cioppino sounds good vs. my sloppy joes. I was tempted to have fish, but abstained for Hipuks’ sake.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
This atdhe feed is choppy, but it is ahead of the espn box score so I’ll take it.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 7:49 PM CST reply actions
maybe he’s pulling a dwyane wade, duncan is just focusing on kicking ass right now
What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)
the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post
by Hamer_SpursFan on Dec 6, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
If Bonner is able to play Magette straight up on D, the Warriors are in trouble.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 7:50 PM CST reply actions
I haven’t seen it. I’ll keep my NoDoz eyes open.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, that was a bad looking call on Tim. I can’t say I saw contact on Jamal chunking it up.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 7:56 PM CST reply actions
George with a nice miss, rimmed out, after great ball movement.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 7:56 PM CST reply actions
No Roger yet. Bruce off the bench first.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 7:57 PM CST reply actions
Our offense is stagnant, we are stuck on 25 pts. I was hoping for a 40pt quarter.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
We are scoring, but we are getting some great looks.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
Man, George is aggressive. Grabbed the board and went the lenghth.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 7:58 PM CST reply actions
Nice, we’re on the same wavelength. I’ll be setting you up all night, btw.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Good D by George after his shitting free throw shooting and offensive rebound.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:00 PM CST reply actions
In the event he gets time at rehab
something for CMoney.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:03 PM CST reply actions
Nobody on the Warriors has made more than one shot.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:05 PM CST reply actions
Hey dude, you need to keep your nasty personal life to youself.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
That was all yours and you dropped it. No Schrute-buck for you.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
Everybody else on here praying that Oklahoma gets itheir ass handed to them?
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
No, I want ok to win. Whiny bastards in town get me down. It’s like Nuggets fans.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
You’ve got to be kidding. I’M even pulling for texas.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
Whiny bastards? F that. I think Texas is better than Oklahoma this year. What would happen if they played on a neutral field? Oh wait, never mind…
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
Yeah, but Texas isn’t better than Tech. so take your ball and go home!
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
You are freakin kidding me. We have to coordinate this better; I was there too. I own L-town. Best game ever though, without question.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Texas played their worst game of the season on the road at the end of a tough 4-game stretch, and lost on a last-second play. Furthermore, if any of a number of things happen, Texas pulls it out despite playing so poorly: McCoy doesn’t go out of bounds with 1:30 left, Blake Gideon catches the pop fly, Earl Thomas helps Curtis Brown tackle Crabtree.
With games, I like to think “if the game were one quarter longer, what happens?” Against Oklahoma, Texas had taken control and would have won by 17 or 21 if the game had continued 15 more minutes. Same story against Tech, if the game had continued, Texas would have won by 10. Obviously it didn’t, but it speaks to the strength of the team.
Of course, that’s a lot of if’s, but my point is that over the course of the season, I don’t think it’s arguable that Texas was more impressive. Tech nearly lost to Baylor and Nebraska, for heaven’s sake. Plus Texas didn’t lose by 40+ to Oklahoma :-)
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
You can turn it the other way too and say the Texas barely squeaked by Ok St at home who Oklahoma beat the crap out of AT OkSt. And they absolutely crushed a team UT lost too. Sure, you can make an argument. But, so can everybody else. That’s why it went to the 5th or 6th tie breaker or whatever is was.
What did Texas in in the end was their patsy non-conference schedule. OU happened to play two teams who had really good years in Cincinnati — Big East champion — and TCU — ranked 11th.
If you guys don’t load up with Florida Atlantic, UTEP, and Rice (wasn’t your fault Arkansas sucked, same for Washington and OU) maybe you make it.
Plus, it’s college football. The system is jacked up and if you don’t expect it to be ridiculous, well, you haven’t been paying attention.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 7, 2008 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Spoken like a true texas fan. “If….but…..however.” You’re kidding, right? Unfortunately for texas, the game in Lubbock WASN’T fifteen minutes longer, or seventeen minutes longer, or 23 minutes longer, or however longer would have been needed for texas to possibly pull it out. Fortunately for texas, in the second half Harrell and Company decided to alter assignments and bring texas back in it. If you can’t win in regulation, you’re not the better team. Don’t forget that it was a blowout advantage Tech until their second half melt-down.
Here’s what no one out there is saying- Mack Brown and the tu faithful are whining and moaning about getting left out of the BCS title picture. “Texas got jobbed, etc.” Tech tied for the division title, went 11-1, beat tu and is stuck with the non-BCS Cotton Bowl. Texas is at least getting a BCS. Tuck Fexas. 39-33.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 7, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
wow, the bitterness around here sometime …
I’m a UT fan, but you can’t whine and complain when you want to be the BCS champ and:
a) you know that you’re playing in a system without a playoff, and
b) you lose a game
All it takes is one loss and you can be out — and there’s no amount of arguing or whining that’ll change it. You can talk all you want ‘bout some “screwed up Big 12 tiebreaker” or how if Texas was under any other conference’s tiebreak rules, then they’d have been in the title game — doesn’t matter. You simply cannot lose if you want to assure yourself of a shot at the title.
Just so happens that both of the teams in this year’s title game had losses already, but that just means that they got lucky. Texas was unlucky, and sometimes that’s all it takes.
Texas fans should shut their mouths, hope the Horns stomp some buckeye butt and get ready for next year.
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
+1
I’m as big a Longhorn fan as I am a Spurs fan, I actually cried after the Rose Bowl in 2005 I was so excited, but I agree. If we don’t lose a game and get left out of the MNC game, then we can complain. If we lose, then we’ve got nothing to say. I didn’t expect such a great season from Texas. If someone told me at the beginning of the year that we would be 11-1, playing in a BCS bowl, and beat Oklahoma, I would have taken it in a second. As it is, I wish we could find out if we really are the best team this season, but Tech, USC, Penn State, and Alabama all have as good an argument as we do. Unless we get a playoff, we’ll never really know.
I'm comfortable winning -- Emmanuel Ginobili
No matter how red Mack’s face gets insisting otherwise, tu never would have broke 60 on Mizzou. I’m a fan of neither and I can without doubt say that today, ou is by far the better team.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 7, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
That's ridiculous
UT scored 56 on Mizzou in a game that they had to put the brakes on b/c it was already over well before halftime. Unlike OU, which seeks to run the score up on teams in the closing minutes of blowout games.
How can OU be a far better team, when UT beat them on a neutral field? How can you say that the result would be any different if they were to play today?
Because teams don’t stay at one stagnant point of quality consistantly throughout a season. Ask the SPURS. Ou is clearly better today than they were at the beginning of the season, and even when tu beat them. But under your arguement, Tech is a better team than tu, right? And thus we need some sort of tie-breaking system.
And ‘putting the brakes on’ is never advisable when “style points” are allowed within the BCS system. This is the drawback to “style points” being made relevant again; it brings up the whole ‘dominance vs. sportsmanship’ debate. In today’s BCS, if you are able, you must hang points regardless of circumstances to be more sure of the best position. Mack knows this. Stoops knows this. Leach knows this. And 4Him knows this.
For the record, I HATE ou and actually like and respect texas. It’s when anyone starts whining when they’ve known the rules all year and benefitted from them in the past that I tend to get a little defensive. As a Tech fan though, I have the intellectual honesty to not even enter the debate, though records and seasons were identical. A 65-21 loss cannot be spun. It’s too bad what happened to texas, but the moral is to lose early, close strong and play strong non-con teams.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 7, 2008 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
But under your arguement, Tech is a better team than tu, right?</>
No, the argument is between UT and OU. The pollsters’ role is not to seek to break a three-way divisional tie, but rather rank the teams in the order that they see fit. Unfortunately, TT was no longer in the argument once they got blown out by OU. (I wish TT could have played OU at home this year.)
UT’s loss came at the last second, on the road, at the end of a brutal four-game stretch against teams ranked in the top 11 (a stretch that no team has ever had to face before). OU lost while ranked ahead of UT, on a neutral field.
So OU is better than they were earlier in the season? And UT isn’t? Since losing to TT, UT has won three games by a combined score of 129-37 – and that’s with putting the brakes on. If there really isn’t much between the two teams, then you have to take that result when they played each other, and therefore UT should have gone on to play in the Big 12 championship game. I sure don’t see how you can say that OU is by far the better team.
Concerning style points, if I was a head coach I wouldn’t do very well in the BCS system b/c I wouldn’t seek to run the score up on other teams and I would absolutely hate to have to try to sell my team through the press, etc. That stuff just shows how messed up the system is, and it really makes it difficult to respect college football. I think there eventually will be a playoff system – the question is how long will it take the powers-that-be to overcome the greed factor.
But, see my point? You can’t have the argument between just two teams- texas is repeatedly trying to make it just that because it benefits them. If there were only texas and ou tied atop the Big XII, this would be a no-brainer. But because of an L (regardless that it was ‘last-second,’ or in ‘an away environment’) and a third team in the mix, the old rules apply. Even Stoops disregarded the 2-team logic, because it’s nothing but sheer homerism. Congrats, texas beat ou. But Tech beat texas. And ou beat Tech. It’s a THREE-way tie, with the decider going to the higher BCS team. Because ou lost earlier than texas and beat higher ranked teams (and annihilated them at that), they vaulted up. I don’t like it OR agree with it because texas beat ou, but it’s the system. Whether you and I and Mack like it or not. Imagine being a Tech fan, who tied your record AND beat you, only to watch you attend a BCS bowl while they’re at a non-BCS bowl. It’s the same logic.
Not even going to touch the ‘better tu vs. ou’ point. Ou set an NCAA record last night by scoring 60+ in so many straight games. Look at the records of the teams they beat vs. the teams texas beat. Scheduling can either hurt or make you. Texas’ run was mid-season, ou’s at the end. That’s what killed you.
I do agree with you about the “style points.” But unfortunately it is what it is. And all the coaches know this. The ones that disregard it to win with nobility are the same ones begging to be let into the national championship now. And I would also kill for a playoff system, but unfortunately we’re a long way off. It likely will never happen to the degree that everyone dreams of. American sport, whether college or pro, is built around money; and the BCS generates gobs of that.
End of the day, we actually agree on most points. I’m just pleading for more intellectual honesty and less homerism. The real debate here is whether to root for a conference team in the championship vs. an SEC team or adhere to rivalries and previously held hatreds; I’m struggling with that one as well. Good luck in your BCS bowl though.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 7, 2008 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
Ok Sarge, we’re getting closer in understanding, and being over here in Central Europe I may have missed something in the way things are being run nowadays. I’m not saying that TT should automatically be disqualified, but rather you go through the tiebreakers with all three teams. When you get to the fifth tiebreaker (highest ranked BCS team at the end of conference play), that’s where TT loses out (just as UT or OU would lose out if they had a blowout loss). And that’s why I said above that the pollsters’ role is not to seek to break a three-way divisional tie, but rather rank the teams in the order that they see fit. That’s where UT’s defeat of OU should be a huge factor for those who have voting power in determining who should be the highest ranked team.
Damn, do the Warriors ever pas the ball?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:11 PM CST reply actions
Tony might get the double triple tonight.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:13 PM CST reply actions
This game just goes to show you that any numbers put up against the Warriors are VERY, VERY suspect.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:15 PM CST reply actions
Hey gang – just got here and have one question: how the heck do we have 47 points in a half, much less 8 minutes left? Have I missed the greatest shooting display in Spur history or is the pace just that fast?
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Yeah, we’re playing Nellie, dude. It’s a wonder we don’t already have 60.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
Are we on pace for this?
That was WITHOUT T-Mac
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
To “monitor his rehab.” Don’t ask, or Pop will glare at you.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I wasn’t even going to touch that one. I’m having beef jerky, and ATS is having a baguette. (Insert joke here.)
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry, I don’t eat at Cracker Barrel.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
Manu is toying with the Warriors.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
I just went into the kitchen to get more wine and this is what I got from my wife, “Fuck you and fuck your princess.”
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:18 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
The princess is one of my dogs that had chewed on my wife’s tv blanket — the one she keeps in her chair to keep her warm — and I said I didn’t see anything.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
Damn! What brought that on? She called SiMA a princess? Not nice.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
Yeah, that’s DEFINATELY getting removed. Completely unwholesome, unwarranted, and derogatory towards women. Shame on you.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
You have now been flagged. Consider this a warning.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
Hell yeah. I’m watching the game on the computer and my wife is in the other room watching whatever on a Saturday night and we don’t have kids.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
I still don’t get what warranted the explosion
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Not an explosion, just how she talks.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Yes. My wife is currently out shopping for my X-mas presents and I am at home watching the game on the computer while watching the Big 12 Championship on the TV while blogging with you lively chaps on my laptop and eating popcorn and enjoying a cold one.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
It’s too bad Mizzou is playing, and not my Longhorns. That would be a fun game. Mizzou OU, not so much.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
Don’t remind me. That’s the BcS for you.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
Because that would be rewarding; not going to the national championship or having anyone in the nation consider you worthy of being in the top two…..but getting the vote from the media to close out the year.
Though you tu fans say the funniest things, I often have to remind myself, “Hey, at least they’re not aggies. Imagine how delusional they’d be then!”
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 7, 2008 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
That response doesn't even make sense
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but College Football is run by the polls. The polls (with the computers) decided this year who got to play in the Big XII championship game, they decided who plays in the MNC game, why shouldn’t they have a say in who the best team is? Especially when we will likely have 4 or 5 teams with 0 or 1 losses at the end of the year.
I'm comfortable winning -- Emmanuel Ginobili
College football at the end of the year is run by ONE poll, not polls. The point I’m trying to make is that texas can be #1 in every poll but this one, and that and a dollar will buy them a cup of coffee. It won’t matter. It’ll be a moral victory only. It’s like me saying, “I think texas should be #1.” Congratulations, SiMA thinks you’re awesome. Know what that means in the grand scheme of things? Jack shit. AP, Harris, USA Today…… they all matter for bragging rights only, none of them get you to Miami. And in the end, the two teams invited to Miami are the only ones who have a say in who the best team is. It’s harder to recruit on ‘moral victories.’
All this is premature anyway. It’s unlikely that other poll voters would vault anyone above whoever wins in Miami. We can save all of this speculation until then, if you guys would like.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 8, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
For what it’s worth (a PtR moral victory, if you will), I DO admire all the resiliance of you texas fans. As long as it doesn’t cross over into ‘whining,’ it’s admirable how you’re fighting and pleading for your team.
Although, it’s kinda like a washing machine too. Spinning and spinning and getting nowhere.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 8, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
You want to bring your admiration south and come live with them?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 8, 2008 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
This looks like a game at the ‘Y’.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Where one team really sucks and the other doesn’t.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
AWESOME
That is all I have to say about that.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
Hey guys.
Currently cleaning mould off the bathroom ceiling.
We are dominating!!! Awesome.
TP doing well. 15 pts. 5 ast and NO TO’s.
http://albaaa.altervista.org/watch.php?id=510
Not great, but I think the only one. Those of us not on local are on that one.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
Isn’t Azibuke the guy Stampler was dying to sign this off-season?
He’s athletic and can shoot a little. But he doesn’t appear interested in guarding anyone. Looks to me like we are better off with the Jedi.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
If you were on the Warriors, would you bother to guard anybody?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure anyone has ever shown them how.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
If nobody else is, where’s the motivation?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
Weird thing is, I think they could be a good defensive team if coached. SJax played D when he was with us. Turiaf was OK as a Laker too. Good foot speed, Biedrins might be a decent big.
It’s just weird to think about, but it’s like they don’t practice defense and really don’t even have a defensive philosophy. How did Pop ever work for Nellie?
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
C’mon Manu. Don’t take the open three early in the shot clock. We can get that shot any time.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:28 PM CST reply actions
Can you clarify that statement for me Sean?
“It’s like they are playing against The JV”.
I’m pretty sure he was talking about a certain current/hopeful-ex member Spur.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
Have to Warriors feed on LP. The announcers are homers, but are definitely respectful of Spurs and Pop.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Hard to be disrespectful when the other team is flat out abusing you on both ends of the court.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, the 18ft turnaround fadeaway, plus hustling down the court to stop the break, getting back inbounds to grab the rebound, start a fastbreak of his own and draw the foul to make the first of two and miss the 2nd that leads to a finley layup
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
Alright, I’m a little late and a little drunk. My Gators won and the drinks have been flowwing ever since. But I’m here to watch us whoop some ass. Unless I pass out.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
You arrived just in time to see the JV start the 2nd half. We already whooped some ass and are now on cruise control.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
We are only up 16. That isn’t much for how much we’ve been playing.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:37 PM CST reply actions
can you get a double-dribble call for losing the ball and picking it back up like they just did w/Mason?
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
you shouldn’t if you don’t put your hand under the ball.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
so he palmed when he “picked up” the ball after losing it? and that was the call?
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
I’m not sure what they called really.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
You can’t travel if you don’t have the ball. Can you? I wasn’t sure what the call was to tell you the truth.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Nono, I said the call was a travel
www.sportzchat.com
by Linix129 on Dec 6, 2008 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
That was the worst half-court buzzer beater I have ever seen.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
That was an ideal half for Pop. Enough good to have a lead, enough sloppy to justifiably yell at halftime.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Astronotus ocellatus " Oscar". They sell these guys at Petco and Petsmart, they’re small and pretty cute so a lot of people get them. Of course they forget to tell you they grow to a pretty big size and they will eat all the other fish in the tank and pretty much break everything else.
If you have the right setup though, these guys are cool, very smart fish. And you can feed them live goldfish, if you’re into that sort of thing.

Hey, my dad had one of those when we were little. Ate a turtle once that my sister put in the tank.
We had an algae eater that lived with it for a year because he burrowed out the gravel under a shell. One day the Oscar got smart and filled in the hole while the algae eater was feeding. Dirtnap followed.
Mean fish.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
What the fuck?! Are you serious? I gotta get that fish, that’s badass.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
we had a pair of Oscars when I was growing up — 50 gal tank my dad had and these fish insisted on leaping out of the tank only to lie gasping on the floor
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
Gators will beat OU in the National Championship game. Know that.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
No doubt. I’ve had $ on that matchup for weeks. I only wish I was a bandwagon gator fan with no ties to florida or that university so that I could enjoy the win a little more.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
I have no ties to the university. I’m just a fan because growing up, they we’re the first college team I watched.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
I know this. I was completely teasing you. One of my old roommates is a gator fan also. His only tie is that he once flew over the state of FL, and I give him hell as well. Amazing how many of those fans turn up in a good year.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like Mizzou is playing Warriors defense.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
I hope USC plays Texas and beats the fuck out of them, so my dad (who isn’t even from Texas) shuts up about UT being so good.
www.sportzchat.com
by Linix129 on Dec 6, 2008 8:45 PM CST reply actions
Likely Texas will get Utah in the Fiesta.
Tech will probably get Bama or Ole Miss in the Cotton.
A&M will get….great coverage of the bowl games on their local cable provider.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
I’ve seen UT and SC in Fiesta also.
But I wouldn’t mind the Rose Bowl either, since thats like, a home game for them.
www.sportzchat.com
by Linix129 on Dec 6, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, my boss is a USC guy so I tend to lean away from them. But it would be a much better game; Texas will annihilate Utah.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t see why Utah is even thought of for that.
It’s fucking Utah.
www.sportzchat.com
by Linix129 on Dec 6, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
Automatic BCS bid. Nothing we can do. Nobodies happy about it but the Utes.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah for winning the lowly Mountain West.
www.sportzchat.com
by Linix129 on Dec 6, 2008 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
Don’t even get me started. Imagine LIVING in MWC-land. It’s pure insanity.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, don’t worry, you’ll see it 12 more times today.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
Well we ARE playing the warriors.
www.sportzchat.com
by Linix129 on Dec 6, 2008 8:50 PM CST reply actions
38-7 OU almost halftime
…It’s like watching Jody Foster in the Accused
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
George hasn’t scored in 13 minutes but I’m ok with that. He’s playing well.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:53 PM CST reply actions
Not sure whether anyone has read this but an article about the best current clutch players for the $$$ at each position.
We already know who the best SG but anyway, it’s good for the rest of the non-Spurs fan to find out.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ArwxBw6NGR7sWweJePkM1XG8vLYF?slug=ys-forbesnbaclutch120408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
It wasn’t a turnover is about all you can say.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
Well, he makes no bones about his loyalties.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
Shut up Bill. We are 3-7 from the line.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 8:55 PM CST reply actions
Jackson is out for the second half, sprained left/right hand or jackursitis in medical terms.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
I was yelling at Timmy the whole time. “TIMMMM!! That’s not Manu, it’s Fin!!”
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
I think we need to get used to the trend of Findog playing greatly in games that don’t mean shit. He’s a totally different player tonight than he was a week ago.
I’ll take it if it means the other guys get rest.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
Other guys meaning who? Bowen? Yeah, he needs a break.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
This is absolutely the best team in the history of basketball for Corey Maggette to be on. All stats, no defense, no need to worry about anything but him getting his numbers.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Stampler chided us Thur. for calling everybody -dog. So I thought I would mix it up.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
For the record, I much prefer that to ’Finizzle."
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
WTF!
Did my eyes deceive me or did Timmeh just try to throw Fab an alley-oop?
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
Not sure it’s just in SA. This is a great scoring team (GS, I mean) but horrible in every other way. They are only going to get wins over teams who don’t have enough offense to stay with them (looking at you Oklahoma City) or if they get hot shooting from the outside (with a poor defensive opponent).
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
My wife’s Shiner with the 00 jersey just crossed over a hapless warrior for an easy layup.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
This made no damn sense to me when I read it during th game thread. Now that I have got the bit above, very funny. For a UT whiner that is.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 7, 2008 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
I’ll play point. And I’m a passer, not a scorer.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Yes. the JV was made for games like this. More rest for the starters, the better.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe
I’ll get my 40pt quarter after all. Or maybe even a 50pter!
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
Do you need a box score? Or a calculator?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
duncan should not see the floor again for the rest of that game.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
Ok, who’s plays the 4th quarter for the Spurs.
I say KT, Ime, The JV, Hill, with Fab and BonBon splitting time.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:11 PM CST reply actions
The Dirk “Where amazing happens” commercial needs to have a pic from the GS series saying " I’ll be bitching out now"…
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
Well what about saying… LET’S ROLL THESE BITCHES!!! …? Is that forbidden too?
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
It’s the rules. Stop being a……a……a………dammit, I got nothing.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
You’d have to appeal to the Emperor on that one, none of us is impartial.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah CM, we’ve gotten pretty PC and candyass in your absence
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
Not when you mean it as a reference to being equivalent to a woman, no.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
You can’t use ‘bitch,’ ‘vagina,’ ‘mangina,’ or anything like that that could be construed as denegrating to women. It’s da rules.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Well I would never want to be denegrating to women or offend. But damn… guess I missed the memo
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
And no pictures of dunking cheerleaders.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
None of us would either, we’re by and large a very respectful but funny and creative site. But if it offends the Emperor, it offends all.
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2008/11/17/664107/guidelines-for-posting-pic
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2008/11/21/667475/apparently-we-re-not-done
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
I gotta do other things that just spend time with your mother
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
Maybe you missed the above referenced conversation about the rules. Comments about mommas=not acceptable.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
But we CAN still call each other “Fuckface” for said comments about mommas, so feel free to explore that option.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS!
we lost the right to talk about each other’s mommas?
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
If it would’ve been about his dad, it would’ve been acceptable, but then that would be implying ATS dad is a homosexual, and that’s not acceptable. It’s all in the 1000 page booklet, " Sexual Harassment Rules at PtR"
Unless you’re okay with someone’s dad being a homosexual; in that case, saying someone’s dad is a homosexual is not acceptable, is not acceptable.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Why? so you can sneak sucks off of her oxygen tank while hanging out of helicopters?
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 7, 2008 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
why does league pass broadband have to stream absolutely perfectly on a 40 point blowout, but on close games it spazzes out?
not that i’m complaining…much.
by sleep research facility on Dec 6, 2008 9:16 PM CST reply actions
Ah, I forgot about Bruce in garbage time. I think Bruce will get minutes in teh fourth.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:17 PM CST reply actions
man they are playing so many “where amazing happens” on this feed. i hate those commercials
What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)
the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post
So will Nellie make it to the end of the season? Who is their GM?
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
Nellie has always had an amazing ability to avoid being canned, I don’t see him getting it this year without taking off first.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
So he’ll probably be rewarded with an extension then.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
He got one.
He got a 2 year extension.
by CanadianBlazerfan on Dec 7, 2008 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
This might not be a surprise to anybody else, but I can’t believe Magette doesn’t have any assists.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:26 PM CST reply actions
Do you need a box score? Or a calculator?
8
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
I called it: The JV, Hill, Udoka, KT, BonBon to start the 4th.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:28 PM CST reply actions
Think this one is over. Going to crack the top on my celebratory Dublin Dr. Pepper now.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Oooooohhhhhh Dublin DP. Nectar of the gods. Used to have it at a Jason’s Deli up here, but then got rid of it for some retarded reason.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
alright guys, i’m hitting the bars. This whole censorship ruined my buzz. Nice win tonight. Holla at you guys later.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
We’re mostly just giving you hell, though the perameters are pretty legit. Good seeing you tonight, have fun later and congrats.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
Damn short breaks. Deal’s still on for next break though.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
Ok, we are only up 40. let’s see if we can close this out.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:35 PM CST reply actions
Imagine if it were like that in all facets of life. “He’s a great CEO, look at the piles of papers he’s carrying”
He’s a great firefighter, he really knows how to work a hose.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
(another total failure on the set-up. You could have been 2-2 on Schrute-bucks tonight, alas.)
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
lol
He’s a great nuclear technician. He handles those rods better than anyone.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
he’s a great proctologist, handles assholes better than the best
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
There’s no better carpenter out there. He’s great at nailing and screwing.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
You have to trust my honor system, while I have to trust freakin’ Aussie broadcast channels. It’s a trade-off.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
Funny that you guys keep getting those, cause I haven’t gotten one yet.
www.sportzchat.com
by Linix129 on Dec 6, 2008 9:39 PM CST reply actions
I know, makes me feel like a slacker. I’m not even up to CMoney and SiMA standards for volunteering.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
So, will the Ws get to 100 tonight? Even in “Corey Magette” time (formerly known as garbage time?
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
There’s six minutes left, they are 23 points away and they shoot a lot. I don’t know….
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
We are running full shot clock sets now.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
The Warriors play the Thunder on Tuesday. Dozens will tune in to watch.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
Awesome lineup: Hill, The JV, Fatality, Kt, and Oberto. When was the last time KT and Oberto played at the same time?
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." – Aldous Huxley
about the same time that Fab went to the line 8 times in a game.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
We’ve got the Mavs on Tuesday. Should be a fun one.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Dec 6, 2008 9:52 PM CST reply actions
YAY!
SPURS WIN!!!
7 players in double figures, TOny with 0 turnovers.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
I’m actually more excited about the 0 TP TOs than the win. Sad.
by SgtinManusArmy on Dec 6, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder how Maggette feels playing for the Warriors now??
I guess he can console himself with his ivory backscratcher and whatever else he buys with the $50mil.
Well, that was good times. Off to watch the end of the Big XII Champ. Everybody have a good night, catch you next thread.
GO SPURS!
How about those Spurs? Nice to see them win very big. GO SPURS!
by CanadianBlazerfan on Dec 7, 2008 4:50 PM CST reply actions

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