Game Thread #11: vs Nuggets
Denver Nuggets at San Antonio Spurs, Nov 19, 2008 7:30 PM CST
We come back home riding a 3-game win streak and one cigar less in the hopper. Good times and good cigars call for good blues.
I' ve got a problem, I say I got a problem
I got a problem people, I've got a problem
I got a problem 'bout my woman
I got a problem 'bout my wifeMy problem started out
When I started messin' 'round with number three
She called up my wife, an' told on my woman an' me
Now my wife packed up her clothes
Went home to her mother
My woman went off, an' found another lover--Albert Collins
Turn down the lights, grab your best girl, and come on in. It's date night.

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| 5-5 | George Hill | Roger Mason | Fabio | Tim | Michael Finley |
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| 7-4 | The Butler | Dahntay Jones | Nanny | Thugget A | Thugget B |
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Game Time: 7:30 Spurs Time
TV: [UPDATED] This game is not on ESPN. Sorry. ESPN says KRRT 35. MySA says KMYS. I don't know what that means for Austin. Could be TWC channel 12?
Officials: Wunderlich, Jones, Roe
Keys To The Game:
- Sloppiness/Exhaustion - The Spurs just finished up a stretch where they played 5 games in 7 days. For the Nuggets, this is the 5th game in 7 days and the back end of a back-to-back. Expect it to be ugly. Of course, we specialize in ugly.
- George Hill vs The Butler - I'll be interested to see how George plays against Billups. Billups is physical like Baron, but much smarter and better. I mean, it's not even close. Baron might be the, let's see -- Paul, Williams, Nash, Parker, Billups, Kidd -- seventh best point guard in the West. Yeah, 11.3 mill sounds good. Anyway, Hill struggled against the Clippers and I want to see how he rebounds.
- The Scrub lineup - When Tim goes to the bench, who's going to create. We have somehow managed to survive with lineups that include The JV, Bruce, Ime, Bonner, and Oberto. How is this happening? Against the Clips in the second quarter we outscored them with this lineup. This can't last.
Some other reading:
You can find some easy reading on the Nuggets at Pick Axe and Roll.
Other:
- The Spurs won 1 quarter against the Clippers.
- It looks to me like George has plateaued at the 15-18 minute mark. It seems like more than that is a more than he can handle at the point, which is a new position to him. I read an article last year that describe Hubie Brown breaking down minutes that he could count on guys to play. Some guys just can't effectively play for more than a certain amount of time. It's like they are incapable of executing the things required of them any longer. (it made sense at the time) I think for George right now that is 15-18. That said, I like him.
- Donte Greene - I know there were some who thought we should have drafted Donte Greene. I think it says volumes that he can't get ANY playing time for a team going nowhere who's starting shooting guard is out and struggles putting the ball in the basket. Apparently, the other parts of his game are so bad that Theus won't play him.
- Kenyon vs Fabio - I predict that they will knock the crap out of each other several times with Kenyon pulling the Thugget look on Fab and Fab looking at the ref like "hey, did you see that?" One will get T'ed up.
- Powell's Photo Guidelines - I have three things to say:
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- Cut Powell some slack on this. He's part of a blog network -- all these cool as features come for free -- and they were funded by big money this year. Not that any of you care, but one of the original founders was Markos Moulitsas of Dailykos.com fame (which is how I found the site in the first place). I read on dailykos.com that SBNation is all grown up and stuff. Anyway, Powell has a Mean Dad too. No, he didn't pay me to say this or even offer any sexual favors. We have a very well-defined relationship. "He doesn't tell me what to play. I don't tell him what to do with his money" --- name that movie!
- JustinBK's argument that the dunking cheerleader photos were from an NBA sanctioned event might, just might, be the most compelling argument I have ever heard. Think about it, if it is appropriate for family entertainment, how can it not be appropriate here? Of course, this comes from somebody who's dad had posters of Loni Anderson and Dolly Parton up in the garage.
- As I have mentioned on several occasions I have a photo I have been saving and I applied Powell's guidelines to it:
- Offend Nuns: Absolutely. It offends my wife.
- Tingle: Um, no. But that's personal. And private
- Prison Currency: Maybe, but it looks more like prison.
- My sister: Yeah, I'd be in prison.
- Work background: Like working in a Speedo. Everybody would be uncomfortable.
- Cut Powell some slack on this. He's part of a blog network -- all these cool as features come for free -- and they were funded by big money this year. Not that any of you care, but one of the original founders was Markos Moulitsas of Dailykos.com fame (which is how I found the site in the first place). I read on dailykos.com that SBNation is all grown up and stuff. Anyway, Powell has a Mean Dad too. No, he didn't pay me to say this or even offer any sexual favors. We have a very well-defined relationship. "He doesn't tell me what to play. I don't tell him what to do with his money" --- name that movie!
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A good test for us tonight.
And the Hill-Billups matchup will be another important lesson for George.
All I can say is “Rebound, rebound, rebound!!!”
Internet
In Corpus, ESPN is showing the Mavs/Rockets game. Anyone have an internet connection? Thanks.
A clarification
In point #2 above about our picture posting guidelines, I am not questioning Powell’s decision. I think JustinBK makes a good point and I ALSO think that Powell’s decision is a good one because the implicit nature of the pictures is sexual. I just think it points out an interesting dichotomy. One of the main selling points of very scantily clad cheerleaders at an NBA game is selling sex. While selling sex in a “family environment” is considered Ok, having those photos as your desktop at work where they would be seen by female co-workers could get you in some serious hot water with your company’s HR department.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 19, 2008 12:07 PM CST reply actions
I meant to type “all these cool ass features don’t come for free”. I was a bit tired last night. Had a rough day yesterday.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 19, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Cool, glad to have you back. Just so you know, I was representing for you in the Friday night game thread.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 19, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
I finally got off my butt and did something I have been meaning to do since the beginning of the season and included one of carina_gino20’s ambigrams.
Slow progress, friends. Slow progress.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 19, 2008 1:11 PM CST reply actions
It’s game time beaches! Any links yet?
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
good luck in the game tonight
have a test tommorow morning i have to study for.
What the Bowen giveth Horry taketh away. --LatinD (2008 Playoffs Round 2, Game 1)
the Spurs do not defeat you so much as they grind you into tiny shards of psychological wreckage.
-the Denver Post
Same chit, different day, can’t grab a rebound.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
In a more cerebral sharing mood, I recommend this short story I just read. Perfect for geeks everywhere. Warning: may blow your mind. (Exaggerating? Me?)
I know this is a sensitive subject for some of you, but I would rather have Nick Van Exel than The JV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
The first link that LatinD posted is running smoothly and it’s ahead of whatever one you guys are using.
but if I use it, then I"ll miss of these fanstatically cheezy Chinese commercials
starring Rockets
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
We need his athleticism so much. Vaughn doesn’t even get out on the break for that play much less make the layup
by speedostuffer on Nov 19, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Are you guys that far behind? We’re down 7.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
Down 10 at the half. YOu guys are like light years behind. I RULE!
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
The third quarter has already started.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
Dude! LD, you can’t do that. Someone just called “no, spoilers”. Man, I hate it when you Argentines don’t listen. Manu HAD to play at the Olympics and you just had to —
Wait a minute. Who did they beat in the Finals. I’ve got a bet to place.
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
I don’t understand it, because since you’re in Nevada, you should be an hour behind me in the Central Time Zone. Yet somehow you have defied the laws of physics to pull ahead of me. Are you, by chance, traveling a speed near the speed of light?
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
And now for your halftime entertainment, pictures of dunking……….o wait, nevermind.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
It’s not my brain that I want to grow. When you would post those awesome pics, some other part of me would grow (if you know what I mean). GIGGITY-GIGGITY, GOO.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
Wait a second… that cheerleader isn’t wearing any pants! Yowza!
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
Keeping up with each other - feedwise
Guys, whenever a commercial comes up, refresh your window.
On a lot of the feeds we use, when the feed skips at all, it usually picks up where it left off. So depending on how long you’ve been watching, and how much skipping you’ve experienced, you could keep getting further and further behind.
Sometimes I come in during the 3rd or 4th quarter and use the same link that everybody else is on, but I’m posting 30 to 45 seconds ahead.
So, just refresh at the commercials and you’ll be up to date … uh, up to game … well, you know what I mean.
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
I wonder if Mark Wunderlich is one of my long lost relatives.
www.sportzchat.com
by Linix129 on Nov 19, 2008 8:55 PM CST reply actions
are we allowed to shoot anything besides 3 pt attempts?
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
don’t like being down 14 — I’m gonna read me a quantum computer short story
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
You just knew they were going to call a foul on Hill regardless of what happened on that play.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
As soon as I saw him iso’ed on ‘Melo doing that "I’m an aggressive defender" crouch, playing him physical, I thought to myself “2 FTs coming up for Anthony.”
He fouled him, but even if he hadn’t, he’d have been called for one after trying to play physical against an established star.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
BTW, thanks for the Sopcast link. Tonight is my first time using it. I needed me some SPURS tonight. The wacky Chinese commercials are a plus.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
That was atrocious, for lack of a better word.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
Again no audio on my feed...but i just spent 90 seconds looking at a bunch of women..
wtf was that all about?
Refresh, LD
didn’t you read my treatise on the feeds above?
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
I’m not sure if we are laying an egg, or if the team is just not good enough to compete with better squads right now.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
The kind of turnovers I’m seeing are egg laying.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 19, 2008 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
Well, we can’t make a freaking jumper, and giving the ball to Duncan doesn’t work if he’s triple-teamed all the time. Our guards need to make some shots, otherwise no amount of Duncan will win this one.
“no amount of Duncan” nice
btw, Billups looks WEIRD in a Nuggs uni
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
Has Bruce made a three yet this year? I don’t think I’ve seen one.
Catch the Spurs Spirit! It's a Fast-breakin' Fiesta!
Yeah, he’s shooting like 47% from 3 coming into tonight. He had two games where he hit several.
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 19, 2008 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
These justins TV chats are hilarious
“2:16kukashatz:JRsmith is possibly the most talented player in the nba, too bad george karl is a douche bag”
Hold on to your lunch, Bonner is leading the team with a +2. He is the ONLY Spur with a +.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
I don’t think Pop should play duncan at all in the 4th unless we get it under 10. He’s been logging so many minutes that a short night would be very benificial for him.
Guys, please don’t judge me, but I’m abandoning the ship before it really sinks. I have to get up and go to work in 5 hours, and this game is just not worth it at this point.
Good luck, looking forward to the 21 point comeback tomorrow when I wake up.
Night!
Spoiler alert – Bruuuuuce with a breakaway dunk!!!
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
“I don’t want no scrubs, a scrub is a Spur who can’t get no love from me, hanging out the passenger side of………………..”
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
and what about the NOOCHies? do they have health probs like we do?
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
Dammit no. In fact, AHELL no. At least they can only beat us when we’re banged up. Or for just one playoff game. We’ll always have that.
by SgtinManusArmy on Nov 19, 2008 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
How about 10? George had a career high 20
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 19, 2008 9:56 PM CST reply actions
Well there goes the winning streak.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
was anybody believing in this winning streak anyway?
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
I was pessamestically optimistic about it.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
by SinCitySpur on Nov 19, 2008 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
so, to you, is a half-empty glass, half full of air?
I am calm, filling myself with patience - Manu Ginobili
Depends on what is in the other half of the glass.
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
by SinCitySpur on Nov 19, 2008 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
Chicken or gold?
"Well if I am truly crazy, don't you know I like my life that way"
by SinCitySpur on Nov 19, 2008 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
I belief in the 3 W’s that went in the win column
by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Nov 19, 2008 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
This just in...
After Donte Greene was bagged earlier i checked Sactowns victory over the H0rnets box score.
D. Greene 34:30 5-9FG 3-4 3pts 2-2FT’s 15 pts
Lol….even when they are not playing us ..we just have to mention a scrub in a game thread and he will have a career night.
I like greene actually i hope he gets a lot of Playing time but i prefer big george for our current needs.

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