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was deng and pj brown for gasol really a no brainer?

The Bulls' lukewarm pursuit of Gasol was the defining moment of this year's deadline season. Supposedly they didn't want to give up Luol Deng because they didn't think Gasol was a guy who could put them over the top in the East. Really? You don't think replacing P.J. Brown with an All-Star might give you a leg up? And you don't want to trade Deng for a guy who is an All-Star because in two years he might become one? Help me out with the logic on that one.

I will never understand this. Because he can play the post and passes so well, Gasol was the one player in the entire league who could have helped them the most -- even more than Kevin Garnett, I would argue. If they paired Gasol with the Bulls' shooters like Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon and Andres Nocioni, Chicago's offense immediately would become one of the league's better ones, which is all this team needs because its defense is so strong.

Instead, the Bulls acted like they were doing Memphis a favor by agreeing to take him. Maybe John Paxson got too used to dealing with Isiah Thomas and didn't realize that the league's other GMs actually demanded fair offers. Whatever the case, he passed up a golden opportunity to position his team for a run at a title.

That's from hollinger's (non)trade analysis.  I actually wanted to post this question a couple of days ago. Like hollinger says gasol is a proven +player/star (whether or not he's in the upper echelon is debatable) whereas deng is abv. average  now, with upside. Echoing hollinger he's also providing a very reliable offensive set/game from his post up game setup, whereas deng's doing it from the 3 spot. That wasn't clear: basically the value of a 4-5 player with a reliable post game and all the offensive playcalls (forcing teams to double, opening up 3pt shooters etc.)that spring out of that provide, imo, a certain value in comparison to a 2-3 guy who gets his off of jumpers and drives (unless of course he's REALLY good at creating his shot/getting fouls/double teams of the dribble ala the kobe's and wade's of the league)which Deng is NOT at the moment.  Although he does seem to have some Pippen/Kirilenko-esque qualities/potential as well...

The arguing points for keeping Deng were that (for me at least):
-he's on the (real) cheap for 2-3 years, still locked into his rookie contract compared to gasol who is locked in to a multi yr 13-17m/yr contract.   Basically if the nucleus of the team w/Gasol is proven to be less than championship worthy, it'd make tinkering with their roster pretty dificult.
-Deng is only 20.  That's lebron-young, super tons  of upside. What's his ceiling?

Personally I still think, like hollinger the gasol for deng was the right play (not necessarily a no brainer like i initially thought). I think there's an 90% probability his peak potential is less than/equal to gasol's.

Anyone else have thoughts on this?  I know it's a non-spurs topic...

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Re: was deng and pj brown for gasol really a no b
Personally I still think, like hollinger the gasol for deng was the right play (not necessarily a no brainer like i initially thought). I think there's an 90% probability his peak potential is less than/equal to gasol's.

I would put the probability at more like 55%.  Partly because I am very high on Deng, and partly because the league-wide style change is reducing the efficacy of players like Gasol.

But, even having said the above, I still agree with you and Hollinger.  You have to make that deal if you can.  It's like when you were a kid, and you needed a Rickey Henderson to finish your 87 Topps set.  Your friend had a double of Rickey, but he wanted your extra 87 Topps Canseco rookie card.  It's worth more than Rickey, but you got to make that trade to finish off the set.

by sungo on Feb 23, 2007 9:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Re: was deng and pj brown for gasol really a no b
And Gasol would fit extremely well in their system.  Like a less extreme case of Nash and Phoenix.

by sungo on Feb 23, 2007 9:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Re: was deng and pj brown for gasol
I can't believe they didn't go for Pau I mean the guy is only 26 years old and a very good player. Deng is an ok player, but he can become good player in a couple of years. But didn't the Bulls just sign Wallace  so that they can become a contender? And they could have become one of the favorites out of the East with Pau. Paxson is an idiot! If you have an opportunity for a chance to win now you do it; especially when you sign a 33 year old to a 4 year contract.

The Bulls have drafted horribly and let some good players go since Jordan retired.

by adam8065 on Feb 23, 2007 9:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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