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Let's See How Long This Lasts

For better or worse, I am back.  Back to Seattle, back to life, back to blogging.  The wireless internet connection I was piggybacking off of at my parents' house proved entirely unreliable.  That, along with typical family-holiday-stuff like playing games (way too much poker and Sudoku challenges lasting until 2 in the morning), dining at the family restaurant (Paesanos in the Quarry; we've been eating there, or at the old San Pedro location, since the 80s) and seeing a couple movies (Pursuit of Happyness (disappointing) and Night at the Museum (surprisingly enjoyable)), kicked me out of the Spurs loop.  I think there were three entire games I didn't see.  I haven't even had a chance to read stampler's posts.  Lots of catching up to do.

PtR member FirebatMIV suggested "a news round up every morning."  A great suggestion, and something I have contemplated doing since the season started (in fact, "Spurs_Daily" was the first section I added).  In terms of blogging, I plan on concentrating on a daily news post and maintaining open threads for every game.  

The daily post will highlight what I consider to be important Spurs news.  It will usually contain links to, and excerpts from, relevant articles.  I'll also throw in my thoughts occasionally.  The Spurs_Daily posts are also a great place for PtR members to add links (via comments) of interesting Spurs/NBA related articles; there will undoubtedly be things I miss.  I plan on having this up every day by 11 a.m. central time.  Without further adieu...

+  Wait, the Spurs didn't trade what for who?

I am surprised this hasn't been bigger news, but apparently the Spurs had/have a chance to acquire Corey Maggette:

The Clippers would be intrigued by an offer of Brent Barry and Beno Udrih, but the Spurs consider it too risky to part with two of their best ball-handlers. Some Spurs officials also are extremely hesitant to include Barry in any type of deal for Maggette given that Barry has been the team's most dependable reserve while ranking second in the league in 3-point accuracy.

Who exactly are these "Spurs officials?"  And when did the Spurs start hiring morons for the front office?  Are you seriously telling me the Spurs could have acquired Corey Maggette for a 35 year old SG who can't guard a spoon and a PG so far in Pop's doghouse than he's lost playing time to a dude named Jacque?  And they said no???

Look, I know Barry is a great shooter, and the Spurs need a great shooter to space the floor for Duncan and create lanes for Parker and Manu.  But Maggette turned 27 two months ago, is signed through only next year at less than $8 million per, and, well, he's a much better basketball player than any multiplicative combination of Brent Barry and Beno Udrih (including their inverses; for example, Tim Duncan divided by Brian Scalabrine = infinity, therefore Luke Ridnour / Brian Scalabrine ~ Tony Parker).  He can create his own shot, gets to the line at an alarming rate (and converts over 80% of his FT) and rebounds well for his position (3rd in the NBA in RP48MIN amongst SF).  If the Spurs want to play small ball, here's the guy to do it with.  He's not a good one on one defender, but there's no way he's worse than Barry or Udrih (or Finley).  Simply not possible.  He has the athletic ability to be a good team defender, and that can be taught.

As for why he's not starting for the Clips, I've yet to read a good reason.  Apparently he and Dunleavy don't get along.  Personally, that doesn't bother me, because I couldn't get along with a guy with Dunleavy's hair.  He takes the fourteen hairs still survinging the follicle wasteland that is his forehead and combs them straight back.  Have some self-respect, you look redonkulous.

The only way I forgive the Spurs for not making this trade is if they win the title this year.  That fourth banner is the only justification for not trading a couple of spare parts for a near all-star caliber player still in his prime.

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Re: Let's See How Long This Lasts
The only reason I can think of is that Corey was bitching about minutes and touches with the Clips and that that wouldn't be any better with the Spurs and probably worse. Which makes more sense than "Bones/Beno are more valuable"

by JamesR on Jan 2, 2007 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

Re: Let's See How Long This Lasts
James is right.  The guy wouldn't have been happy as a 6th or 7th man for us.  One of the biggest reasons I'm a Spurs fan is what this organization stands for, and I don't want any bad apples on the team, sorry.  

Plus

  1. It'd be pretty bush league to ship Bones out now, when he's playing well and contributing for us.  If we didn't trade him when he was crap, why trade him now?  

  2. Doesn't Pop play Manu too few minutes as it is?  What does he get these days like 25 minutes?  With Maggette aboard it'd be like 20.  Screw that.  

I would have accepted the trade for the betterment of the trade if it meant Finley was gone, but for Barry, it would have hurt the team's morale I think.  Plus, no matter how much in the dog house he is, Udrih is way better than Vaughn.  It's not really close.  I think some part of Pop's brain knows this.  

by Aaronstampler on Jan 2, 2007 12:49 PM CST reply actions  

Re: Let's See How Long This Lasts
Who says he's a bad apple?  Being frustrated with your playing time is understandable when you're Corey Maggette and Cuttino freaking Mobley is starting ahead of you.  And he might be more apt to take less minutes playing for a winning team.  It's not like he's ever quit on a team like, say, Nick Van Exel.

We did trade Bones when he was playing like crap; the paperwork just didn't make it through on time.  But I understand what you're saying with the "bush league" comment.  I think the token response is "basketball is a business."

Manu's never played 30 MPG and he's not going to this year.  I would think Corey would take Barry's minutes and some of Finley's / Bowen's.

I totally agree that Beno >> Jacque, but it doesn't matter if Pop won't play him.

by sungo on Jan 2, 2007 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Re: Let's See How Long This Lasts
Matt maybe that news is lie for some reason? I dont know why would Clippers want or be happy with Beno and Brent.

But Maggette is like the worse player ever. He is one of those players that always manages to negate whatever good he's done. If he made a jumper, he'll  miss a defensive assignement, and his guy will score. If he dunked, next possesion he will miss a j instead of passing it to an open teammate.... and so on. I realize these might be correctable things, or in better environment he'd do better. But I really dislike him. Yeah its personal.

massive boisson aka chicken

by massive boisson on Jan 2, 2007 2:03 PM CST reply actions  

Re: Let's See How Long This Lasts
Corey was the only Dukey who pissed off and defied Coach K.  Coach is honest with all of his guys and tells them whether it's a good idea for them to come out or not, and he told Maggette that he wasn't ready after two years and he should stay one more, and Maggette didn't listen.  

So there you go about his character.  Plus he wears #50.  Screw that.

by Aaronstampler on Jan 2, 2007 3:40 PM CST reply actions  

Re: Let's See How Long This Lasts
Maggette can slash sometimes but that is it. I will rather wait until next year when James I jump out of the building White can play for us. Barry is our best reserve. And Beno seems to be getting out of Pops dog house. It is too difficult to find a quality back up point guard. Look at most the teams in the Nba they don't have one. Beno is too valuable.  Also Corey would want to shoot it all the time, and that's Parkers job!  

It does behoove me how Manu is only play like 27 minutes per game, and he is only 29 and Duncan who is 30 is playing 33.4 minutes per game. Is Coach Whino trying to rest him for the playoffs? Let Manu play the same amount of minutes that Tony and Duncan play, what the hell, he loves to be out on the floor and he sure has hell deserves it!

by adam8065 on Jan 2, 2007 10:27 PM CST reply actions  

Re: Let's See How Long This Lasts
You know Adam, I really think that Pop is saving Manu at least a little bit. Which makes a lot of sense. The playoffs are Timmy/Manu time, let Tony get his spotlight in the regular season.

About the difference in Tim's and Manu's minutes, 33.4 is a huge break for Tim. Thats like, nothing. Manu has had his injury problems before and I don't blame Pop for being overly cautious. We don't need playoff Manu now. He's obviously in a pretty good rhythm so there's really no reason to play him 30-35 minutes a night. The only problem I have with Manu's 27 minutes is that a lot of the slack is going to Finley which is stupid considering he's been our worst player this year. If we are going to develop Flight in Austin, then I'd rather see some of those mins go to Eric Williams (did I just say that?)At least he can put the ball in the hole, not to mention play defense.

Flight will end up being a better option than Corey because:

A) He's coachable by all accounts
B) He knows what defense is and actually likes it.

by JamesR on Jan 2, 2007 11:12 PM CST reply actions  

Re: Let's See How Long This Lasts
That makes perfect sense about Manu. One problem I have with Pop letting Tony do what he wants to, is telling him to change for the playoffs. If you let Parker take the bulk of the shots and not distribute as he does, then when he does the same thing in the playoffs we all shouldn't be surprised.

I mean last nights game when we need some 3's and all he did was drive in for lay ups was unacceptable. And on another play he didn't even foul his man he just stood there for 5 seconds until Bruce ran all the way over and fouled him this happened with 30 seconds left in the game.

I love the Spurs because they are unselfish and team players, and I just hope Tony doesn't become too self absorbed (but I could be wrong), but I have noticed when Eva comes to the games he always tries to score a lot points!  28 points and 3 assists are never a good ratio for a point guard who has the ball 99% percent of the time.

You are absolutely correct about the minutes should go to White, instead of Finley. We are even seeing Bonner getting more minutes and contributing. I mean when we get big leads on teams why not throw in White. But these are all Pops decisions.

by adam8065 on Jan 3, 2007 11:09 AM CST reply actions  

Re: Let's See How Long This Lasts
Yeah, Tony getting the attention in the regular season then taking a backseat in the postseason is a problem and we could see it in the Dallas series. I have enough faith in Pop as a coach to rectify this.

Tony scoring 28 has a lot to do with Manu going 1-8 and Tim going 6-15. Who the hell else is going to score? I didn't watch the game so I'm not going to comment on Tony's layup drill or his failure to foul.

Flight needs to develop in Austin some, I agree with Pop on this one. I'd just like to see (gasp)Williams get some of Finley's minutes. He's shown he can contribute and Finley sucks. Makes sense to me.

 

by JamesR on Jan 3, 2007 1:18 PM CST reply actions  

Re: Let's See How Long This Lasts
You are right I trust Pop completely except once, when he played Van Exel in the Dallas series and not Beno. Other than that he knows what he is doing. His record speaks for himself.

by adam8065 on Jan 3, 2007 1:30 PM CST reply actions  

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