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Game 18 Final: MIA 84 @ SA 98

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Thoughts about tonight's game:

-Was ESPN using espionage-grade microphones tonight?  And does Tim always talk that much while on the court?  At one point you could hear him on the defensive end:  "Same play, same play!  ....  No, different play!"  All that communication combined with Antoine Walker's stellar play had me thinking I was watching the WNBA.

-God, Antoine Walker is the last player I would want on my team, and I'm not even exaggerating all that much.  It wasn't so much that he shot 3-15; some of the shots he took were feeble and awkward.  My favorite Awesome Moment of Extreme Antoine Walker Suckage involved The Solid Slovenian.  Antoine had Rasho isolated at the top of the key.  He drove down the left side of the lane and spun back into the middle of the paint (right into Nesterovic) and threw up a 5 foot hook shot that was off about 16 inches to the left.  Missed the rim entirely.  Made me giggle like a school girl.

-Speaking of Nesterovic, the guy is playing really well this year but I doubt there's anything he can do (short of ripping off Shaq's member and beating him with it) to remove his designation as Official Whipping Boy of the Typical Spurs Fan.  The most common criticism I read on message boards is that he's "not aggressive enough of the offensive end."  This never made much sense to me.  The guy is in the starting lineup with Duncan, Parker and The Sickness and 2 of those 3 are on the court ~85% of the time.  Call me crazy, but I would rather have 1 of those guys shooting the ball.  Rasho's job on the offensive end is to be an effective screener (which involves more than just setting a good screen), grab some offensive boards and shoot the ball when open inside 18 feet.  And that's exactly what he's doing, to the tune of 56% from the field.

Now's a good time to direct you over to a page filled with enough Spurs stats to occupy an hour of your time.  I hope to explore this info more in the future, but for now I just want to point out the difference between Rasho and Nazr.

Tim Duncan has played a total of 97 minutes with Nazr Mohammed.  During that time SA scored 96.6 PTS per 100 possessions, allowed 100.1 PTS per 100 possessions and was outscored 7 points.

Tim Duncan has played a total of 276 minutes with Rasho Nesterovic.  During that time SA scored 100.4 PTS per 100 possessions, allowed 85.7 PTS per 100 possessions and outscored their opponent by 85 points.

I am not saying those numbers tell the whole story.  Nazr, as a backup, plays with other backups more than Rasho.  For example, Nazr has played 39% of his minutes with the defensively challenged Van Exel while Rasho has played with Nick only 31% of the time.  But that, nor anything else I can find, changes the obvious conclusion that Rasho, at this time, is better for this team than Nazr.  And THAT is what matters; not athleticism or dunk attempts.

-Brent Musberger mentioned that the Marlins executives were in town to discuss moving the team to SA (probably solely as a threat to the people of southern Florida).  Uh... they do know the Alamodome roof isn't high enough for baseball, right?

-Tom Tolbert compared Parker's quickness and penetrating ability to Allen Iverson.  I don't know if that supports or undermines my previous claims.  By the way, The French Layup Machine is leading the league in points in the paint.

-Michael Doleac got thrown out for a flagrant foul on Parker.  I thought the ejection was excessive; he didn't appear to be trying to hurt anybody.  Just sorta reached out to grab Tony and ended up elbowing him in the face.  Tim Duncan's afro, as sensitive as ever, took offense and challenged Doleac to "pistols at dawn."

-Uh oh.  Not this again.  Bruce Bowen got called for a foul late in the game for slightly undercutting Wade.  It looked like Dwyane's left foot came down on one of Bowen's, causing a slight turn that was easily walked off.  I watch Bruce pretty closely, and he does slide into jump shooters quite often.  I just can't tell if he's doing it purposely.  He's built his career around being a great defender and I would hate to see his reputation further tarnished by what could honestly be accidental contact.  The sad look on Bowen's face after the incident made me wonder if he was thinking the same thing.

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Re: Game 18 Final: MIA 84 @ SA 98
my brother-in-law happened to shovel me some excellent tickets for the game tonight, and I had a very close view of Doleac's foul on Tony.  It looked much much worse in full speed reality than it did on replay.  It was definitely a flagrant, and a borderline flagrant 2.  I can say that the whole arena was screaming for his ejection.

... the people who were there at least.  The attendance wasn't stellar.

chaos... panic... pandemonium... my work here is done.

by rick2g on Dec 8, 2005 1:08 AM CST reply actions  

Re: Game 18 Final: MIA 84 @ SA 98
The live view via ESPN wasn't great; Parker was behind Wade and you couldn't see much, but you could tell from Tolbert's reaction that it was a flagrant foul.  You're right; definite flagrant, borderline ejectionable offense.

by sungo on Dec 8, 2005 1:33 AM CST up reply actions  

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Tony Parker getting clearly pushed in the chest and the official calling it all ball?  WTF?

Tom Tolbert is a buffoon.  His predictions never come true, his takes are way off base and his attempts to make excuses for his favorite boyz are a joke.  I wish they would fire that clown. Sometimes it appears he is openly rooting against the Spurs.

Hats off to ESPN for giving Stephen A. Smith his own show. Now he doesn't appear on NBA live prior to Spurs games because he is too busy with his soon to be canceled show.

Tim appears to be in cruise control.  He clearly hasn't come out this season the way that Tony Parker has.  He is older, but is that an excuse?  Is he pacing himself?  Needs to bring it every minute every night a la Larry Bird.

Somebody needs to wake up Nick Van Excel. Poor defender and very sporadic shooter.

How many games has Bruce Bowen missed in his career?  I am betting not many.  Dude is one tough SOB.

Mike Finely will be fine given enough time.  His jump shot looks pretty darn smooth.  Once his Js start falling, look out.

by MrX on Dec 8, 2005 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Re: Game 18 Final: MIA 84 @ SA 98
They were talking on ESPN radio a few weeks ago that the Marlins owner got permission to move the Florida Marlins in, I belive, 2008. Also, on the express news website I read about a potential plan to build a whole bunch of new additions to the city including a MLB stadium. Coincidence? I think it would be neat if SA got another pro team. And with the Saints potentially coming to SA as well it could be a big couple of years for the city.

Speaking of moving teams...I was at the Hornets/Celtics game in Oklahoma City tonight (I unfortunately moved up here a year ago) and I hope they keep the team out here and not send it back. They are fun to watch (albeit, not yet the Spurs) and they are in the same division as the Spurs which means 2 home games against them a season! I already have courtside seats for the January 25th game!

by chronoplot on Dec 8, 2005 3:55 AM CST reply actions  

Re: Game 18 Final: MIA 84 @ SA 98
It should have been a flagrant 1; no ejection.

Wayde didn't even turn his ankle: he had a leg cramp.

Nesterovic's offense WAS detrimental last year.  This year he's shown the level of aggressiveness I wanted, at least: to take the open inside shots that he gets.

Stats:
2004-05 - 5.9 PPG on 46.1% shooting, in 25.5 minutes/game.
2005-06 - 6.3 PPG on 56.3% shooting, in 20.9 minutes/game.

Rasho is playing great this year.

by jrduncans on Dec 8, 2005 4:57 AM CST reply actions  

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On the flagarant foul.  Dolahack went after Chris Webber's ankle soon after he had surgery on it when CWeb was with Sac Town and DHack was with Orlando.  Don't kid yourselves.  DHack is a dangerous SOB.  

Flag 2 with a suspension.  

What will it take to wake up you thug apologist?  Having a guy shatter his spine in the middle of the court after a clothsline?  Keep watching.  It will eventually happen.  I am calling my shot right now.

by MrX on Dec 8, 2005 8:27 PM CST reply actions  

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I've been called a lot of things in my time, but never "thug apologist."  I am going to add that to my resume:

Other Interests:
-Dabbling in the cuisine of the Northern Peruvian hinterlands
-Apologizing for thugs

by sungo on Dec 8, 2005 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

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Huge URL, but it has the entire Pistons/Pacers brawl.  What is interesting is the way the ESPN thug appologist front everything by blaming the entire fight on the fans.  The players were said to have merely "confronted" players while players "sucker punched" fans. WTF? How I yearn for the old ABA days when a team would send an enforcer on the floor to take care of business instead of having hoods like Rick Fox and Karl Malone cheap shot other players with supposed legal moves.  Remember when Maurice Lucas KOed Aris Gilmore?  There was no apologies or politicaly correct nonsense.  George Karl and Swen Nater were sent into games strictly to mess somebody up, period.  Those were the days.  Now we have to tip toe around flagarant fouls and cheap shots. BS. Bring back the bruise brothers!

http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/view?&h=224&w=288&type=avi&rurl=www.mh-pe.net%2F downloads.php&vurl=www.mh-pe.net%2Fmodules%2Fdownloads%2Fnba.avi&back=p%3Dnba%2Bbrawl%26sm%3 DYahoo%2521%2BSearch%26toggle%3D1%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3DFP-tab-web-t&turl=scd.mm-so.yimg.com%2Fima ge%2F1702304217&name=nba.avi&no=2&tt=15&p=nba+brawl&size=28.1MB&dur=496

by MrX on Dec 12, 2005 6:38 PM CST reply actions  

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